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  • although I agree with modanoleht, I still appreciate these videos since you get a pretty good idea of the difference in whatever is compared. To see how cars can deliver power so differently is cool to me! Keep these videos coming ///M5board.

  • All these races are such horseshit. I paused the race before the start so I don't even know which car won and then wrote this comment.

    1.You got two different drivers.

    2.Who KNOWS how the cars are set up.

    3.You got different reaction times off the start.

    4.You have so many things in these races that are left up to chance and to human error.

    To say which car is faster, better, whatever...is just sheer ignorance and brand bias.

    How 'bout this? A 338 Lapua smokes 'em all.

  • 458 ITALIA

  • ZR1? That's gay.

    

  • Meh...Would still have the m5 to fit 5 in comfort and yet still go like a stink.

  • I LOVE BMW BUT....TURBO is TURBO MAN....

  • where in sweden is the place where they are driving?

  • These guys are shifting too early geez. Redline that thing at 9,000 RPM's !

  • bM fuckin W

  • haha thats what rich people do when we all go to work or what ? xD

  • porsche the best car

  • oh damn. another mile the m5 would have had it

  • @holmansmashbros

    Yes the M5 gearbox was made for top speed.So the Turbo can't keep up with it in highspeeds.But the PDK will shit on M5 :/

  • Still chose Bmw

    You guys dont have any E36?

  • TURBOMAGIC

  • I don't ride the trend.

    I just prefer to support my nation...as best i can.

    you guys think the V caddilac is a flash in the pan....Yeah a German shocker at that! And the Zr1....c'mon give credit where is do....the Zr1 even though it can't beat a 911 torbo in a straightline...beats it on the track...does that say anything.?

    yes thw Zr1 is SLOWER in a straightline.. But rules the porsche on the track

    Upper middle calss America has spoken. We like our cars!

  • @Triplethreat600 ..25.8s to 186mph, vs 33.4s? SLower in a straightline?................t­hats only if you dont have somebody who knows how to handle a Corvette..

  • @JellyBird12

    I was going off the motor trend shootout( or road and track where the new porshe

    really stuck it to the Zr1 in acceleration times...perhaps it was just in the 1/4

    You think i don't like the zr1?? i have a Zo6 and have done battle with the zr1 many times..take my chances with the Zr1 rather than a new 911 turbo.

    but i 've only run into a few 911's.faster or not priced a little to high and not faster on a open track...the zr1 (sloppy as it is) beats the 911 in road racing

  • early on the porsche was toying with the bmr...the 997 is much quicker than that and a m5

  • AMG, M, GTR, Porsche, all nice cars. Corvettes are trash garbage made by the same for the same. Chevy owners make me laugh when they try to defend their junky little plastic garbage.

  • sounds like a fighter jet thats the best sound in the world

  • As I do love Mercedes and BMW, Porsche and Ferrari are really the truest purest sports cars out there.

  • The porsche 997 turbo is awesome - my buddy's got one & we test drove it on a long stretch, reaching 180 mph. The pdk will be quicker & marginally more economical

  • yes it a strait line the pdk will be much faster, but on the track and in open roads the standard transmission gives you more feel. The pdk in my opinion takes away from the driving experience.

  • Unless derestricted, that Porsche will roll away - come 160+ I think the Beamer would have started to claw - that's when having just that little bit extra power helps!

  • Bye bye BMW

  • dam do porches loook great

  • bmw faster at topspeed i think

  • @shriepshroepshrap

    M5 hits 330+km/h.

    Turbo barely hits 320km/h

  • M5 hits 194mph Proven, not 330kmh+, Turbo hit the exact same, but with 20bhp Less.

  • GTR and ZR1 fanboys make me sick. The cars are fine, I have respect for them but the people who support them can be such retards!!! (If you get into an argument with one of them, stop replying to them, trust me there's no end and they don't listen to reason whatsoever, telling you everything in the world is crap except for their ZR1 or GTR)

  • yes this is true, and the gtr fans will go on and on about how their gtr is faster then the more expensive 911 turbo, and truth is its not faster around the nürburgring, but theirs no telling them that.

  • The Carrera is a well-engineered German masterpiece that has withstood the test of time. I have much respect for the boys at Stuttgart who have maintained the standard while continuously improving upon an already amazing machine. And Ferrari said it was the 911 they considered a thorn in their side. The gtr is an admirable machine but it just doesn't have the pedigree of Porsche, Ferrari, and Lamborghini. I hope VW takes care of Porsche when they take over the company next year.

  • @SPMNDK89

    You're absolutely right. It's a kind of Spam telling others the truth about their favourite cars, even the topic is complete different. I like cars of any country, doesn't matter who built them, but some people are only looking for threads to celebrate their own country and cars with a very pathetic manner. What a complete waste of time for guys who are only interested in the topic.

  • @SPMNDK89  so tru

  • @SPMNDK89 What about turbo fanboys ;)

  • @achp400 there are no turbo fanboys people who like 911 turbo are called 911 entusiast

  • @mukangtae3 I was messing around...I am a ( 911 enthusiast )turbo fan boy just picking fun...No harm intended ...

  • @achp400

    They are more sophisticated and intelligent in general, and usually 911 turbo fanboys are true enthusiasts of performance and engineering.

    GTR and Zr1 fan boys like those cars because it's the current trend. They get caught up in the hype and don't know about the cars.

  • @SPMNDK89 ur totally right man. I mean look at the porsche thats the nicest car ever its so beautiful and just perfect also from the inside. the gtr has lots of power and its fast but the form is just like a cube and the interior just looks like every other asian car. the zr1 is just another american trash car.

  • @SPMNDK89

    I don't think we are fanboys! We are upper middle class, that can afford a very fast, yet balanced Vette. When BMW make something factory to challenge the Zr1 , i wonder what it will cost.

    Stop all the interior hating on the Vette. It is what it is....

    personally i have a Zo6 and a New CTS-V. Why? cause for 110k i have the best of both worlds and with a LSA engine..it easy to extract close to 600 rwhp out the V...the Zo6 is NA.

    Don't forget the Acr Viper and GT500 ford!

  • @Triplethreat600 Considering your comments make sense and you did not call a Porsche or Ferrari a piece of sh*t car compared to the vette, I would not categorize you as the crazed fanboy type. The ones I hate are those that badmouth every other car out there and probably don't own or have even been inside a corvette. It's all about taste. I respect the vette but I prefer other cars. It's not even about countries either, the Ford GT is one of favorite cars to date.

  • @SPMNDK89

    everyone likes speed. add in class and great looks and most cars are winners.

    Now reliability, build quality and status lines are blurred abit.

    American cars have build uality and class...( my 2010 CTS-V is a fiine example)

    i do own 3 GMs the Zo6 and the new 10 V and the SS camaro ( supercharged of course with suspension tires and brake upgrades)

    i know how to buy quality and build it. My SS by many is an exotic In Brazil -power and suspension and brakes its worth double

  • @SPMNDK89 I agree with you!

  • @SPMNDK89 i see your comment is at the top

    Well sir you are wrong the GTR presently is the greatest car...have you seen what these car not only do in a straightline but at the road racing track.

    Flash them and exhuast and they rock. the Zr1 hs to have the Driver mod....but the fact it can ahieve the same or better number for less speaks volumes as well..

    Since there owners are retards ( not all but some vette guys) i know i'm a Zo6 owner.

    the porshe guys have huge chips on the shoulders

  • @SPMNDK89 haha i know . one guy was getting relly mad becouse he said that stock zr1 runs high 10's and i told him when tested it ran 11.6

  • @yourfast06 It could be "tested" to the time of +13 with you as the driver. The Facts are, a Stock ZR1 with a competent driver is a 10 second car.

  • @SPMNDK89 ZR1 all the way bitch!

  • Naw man, I want me a 1970 Chevelle SS, black on red all the way.

  • lol to the jap crap evo thats there.. they need to throw in a zr1 corvette.. then we can talk about a car thats the shit

  • honestly that porsche does 0-60 in 3.4 that driver was not pushing it.

  • of course he was pushing it. 0-60 does no9t tell u much in terms of real world performance

  • i mean he didnt even get a jump when your supposed to start accelerating like the m5 did

  • Just Admit it ... the ///M Power and no fucken Other !

  • Wow, how did the M5 get the jump?

    Low speeds is always where the M5 falls behind.

  • cause the guy driveing the porshe sucks

  • yeah man german cars forever!

  • do you know how much an m5 cost?

    well if you dont it around 100,000 and im sure that porshe doesnt cost 400,000

  • yea that porsche costs $140 grand

  • And worth every penny...until someone in a Ferrari pulls up and then you yell, 'DAMMIT!!!"

  • lmaooo true

  • No it would not

  • porsche is a Beast

  • 997 all the way!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • The Porsche was just toying with the M5, What a car!

  • no, it had to wait for the turbo to spool

  • the m5 start before 997 but the porsche win

    well done 997

  • porsche is the gartest car ever you shoud know it

  • @camilo94011500042 no... porsche is shit!! for me! bmw is much better thing...

  • @camilo94011500042

    I agree with you , but you should know that the M5 is the best 4-door saloon you can get , not some kind CTS-V , sick of those fans.Well the 911 turbo has the best [Flat 6] engine in the world.I just wish there was a new version of the M1 , then it can fight back those supercars like (porsche,lambo,ferrari,pagani.­....)The point is even if you have a M5 , that dosen't mean you can fuck with the 911 turbo ^^

  • @BmwM6rulz the best 4 door saloon you can get is the panamera turbo that easy but i like bmw (only the disel ones)

  • @camilo94011500042

    Wait for the F10 M5 , and it will kill the panamera.FACT!

    I like the Porsche CGT , one of the best Porsches ever made!

  • @BmwM6rulz no i´m not sure but i heard that there won´t be any more m5 thats why there is a 5 series gt

  • @camilo94011500042

    No no , the 5 series gt is made for something else.The new 5-series BMW is out allready , the 2010 version sedan (F10) and estate (F11) and the M5 comes out in 2011....

  • @camilo94011500042 gartest?

  • @camilo94011500042 difference being a BMW can be used for every day driving while a porsche is not the most comfortable car for long distance and every day driving :P

    Anyway I love BMW's such great cars

  • @neoduke007 have you ever sat/driven one?

  • @maverick223 Yes, how else would I know if they were comfortable for long distance driving or not (both the BMW's and the Porsche)

  • lol walked

  • wtf m5 is a great car

    but porsche 997 was made for race

  • its comparing chalk and cheese. both very different cars, but neither the less, both brilliant.....porsche and beemer best 2 car makes =D

  • OMG it sounded like a damn plane about to take off....beautiful!

  • hi gustav any new videos for the corvette

    zr1 pls let me know

    thank you

  • Yes.. I am a HUGE troll and even a bigger kid!! LOL

    What? Can't sleep at night cuz your beloved modded M5 got killed after it cheated??

    Don't be a sore loser! Its not the end of the world! =)

    This video is not worth getting all riled up and angry about!!!!

    And yeah, I know there is a weight difference!! No need to tell me that!! Just explain that to all the people out there that think the 7 speed in the M5 makes it faster than a GT 2 and the Veyron!! lol

    Mmmmmmmmmmmm power baby... NOT!

  • EXACTLEY

  • once the turbo kicks in it's over

  • the porsche is much faster

  • Dont Even Compare These 2

  • V10 MPOWER lost to flat6 bi-turbo POWER hehe...

    very good race...

  • he lost the race as he agreed to race a 977 turbo

  • German Engineering at its best. Awesome race. Props to the Porsche for catching up. :)

  • why race a turbo anyway? a pdk or carrera s would be more equal to the m5, a 911 turbo? u got big kahunas dude.

  • I agree with you!!

    But some people think the M5 is equal in performance to Super cars like the Z06, 911 Turbo and GT 2......

    U seen the videos on here where a ZO6 is on PAR with a kellener 570 HP M6 and where that same Zo6 walks the SLR??

    2 + 2 = 570 HP M6 is FASTER than the SLR!! LOL

    Some people here are delusionallllllllll!!!!

  • that Z06 was not full stock..it had larger rims killer bee package(7300 rpm)..

  • M5 got PWN'D son!!!!!!!!! ;)

    TAke that!

    You got the jump, you're modded and you still lost? Must be something wrong with that 7-speed!!

    Cuz according to some people, that 7-speed will even over come Buggati's 500 hp advantage over the M5 after 120 mph!! LOL!!

  • L0L ur so rite mate ahahaha

  • BMW & Porsche <3

  • The 997 Turbo must have a lot of mid-range power to overtake the M5 like that. At 0.23-0.25sec, the M5 decided to take the fight back to the Porsche but it was just too much for it. 0.26-0.30, the 911 just shoots away. Respect to the M5 sedan for putting up such a fight coz 911 Turbo is a beast. Excellent race.

  • 997 Turbo is the best. Always taking on cars with bigger HP and most of the time winning. Damn!...this thing is my favourite car.

  • this M5 has Hartge ECU and muffler, but, generally, the M5 is a great car!, like the 997 turbo.

  • wow that bmw got a jump on him.

  • very cool video. every time I see a vid of a Porsche racing another car I'm amazed. flat 6 Porsche power for the win!

  • agreed

  • ace mate

  • Thought the M5 got it but,man, what a pull from that Porsche! Great race!

  • The porches never cease to amaze me

  • I think the M5 has an RS6 Syndrome!! ie jumping a lil too early!!

    Eithe way, the M5 jumped the gun and still got walked HARD at the end!!

    Where is your 7-speed to save you there buddy??

  • Yeah keep dreaming!!!!

    What planet do you live on? Uranus??

  • Jajajajajajajajajajaja, good one!!!

  • it,s just as fast as a m5 .........

    only has a different look

  • An M6 is not as fast as a 997 turbo, theres about half a car length in it between M5 AND M6. Bearing in mind the M5 in this clip had about 530bhp. The standard 997 turbo still caught it after the M5 jumped the start. Point to point the 997 turbo is one of the quickest cars A to B and it would kill an M5/M6 on a track. Even the standard C2S would kill any M car on a track.

  • cheating m5!!! even with that he got owned!!

  • M5 jumped

  • COME ON M5!!! you cheatet at the start with a couple of meters, but the you get owned?!?!

    lol

  • M5 IS STOCK ????

  • no it's not check in the beggining the up-right

  • Kingb2 is talking out of his backside. 997 turbo would kill any M car.

  • agreed...but let the PDK Turbo come then everybody will see..

  • You need to find a G-power m5 to put in one of these videos!

  • Still gotta give credit to the sedan M5.

  • I wish I could see the race between Ruf RT12 S and this remarkable CCX.

  • M5 clearly hit the gas earlier,

    but none the less, 997 beat the m6,

    so i would expect it to beat an m5

  • i love these videos

  • i saw a 997 today. and after not seeing a M5 for a week i saw like 6 today.lol.

  • porsches are awesome

  • I love Porsches. I would kill to have such beauty and power.

  • porsches look really good.

    except for one thing. If you look at it from the front from far away, it looks like a vw beetle

  • Man, the 997 is truly amazing. So much power from that straight 6. True engineering right there.

  • "... that straight 6" + a turbo :)

  • True... : )

  • twin turbo =]

  • True :)

  • Straight six + Biturbo aka Twin turbo.

  • True again :)

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  • Sure it's not a Boxer engine? I always thought they used a 6Cyl Boxer.

  • Yes, Porsches engines are boxers

  • not a straight 6, but a flat 6 aka boxer motor with twin variable turbos, just as poweful as the M5s V-10 but in a much lighter package...hence the easy overtaking  :-)

  • 3,6 L Boxer engine.

    Variable Twin turbo

    480 bhp

    With "over boost". 0.2 bar extra between 2000rpm and 4000 rpm. (Sport chrono option from Porsche).

    The black Porsche is mine so i know this for a fact.

  • the bmw had a better start...they didn't start at the same time...

  • True,

  • Yeah BMW had the obvious jump. Amazing midrange power in the turbo for it's ability to eventually overtake the M5.

  • yes, it's very very quick :)

  • And I wish I had a garage with so many cars!!!!!

  • Good acceleration by the BMW!

  • next turbo with PDK OMG! but m5 with DCT will aslo be amazing.

  • cool

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