I like A. They are both nice but I guess it's just what style you prefer. I like a brighter sound, the A takes the cake in that department. My guess is it's the Keeley.
There are some missing mid-high harmonics with overdriven Contender A. A is also more squashy on the attacks. B sounds more full and wide and even wider in the OCD; plenty of bottom and top end.
After having listened to Rothwell's and Keeley's own demos: A is Keeley and B is Rothwell.
The Rothwell love-squeezed the Keeley off the board. I was just about buying the Keeley. Thanks for the demo. I wish the analogman were there too, though, as an alternate match.
@ProGuitarShopDemos I think he meant clipping...at least thats what happen to mine at the front, end, and middle of any configuration i have...actually in front of a lovepedal kalamazoo and a ht dual, when i turn my guitar volume all the way down i get the most scarrying hizz you can imagine...not a high gain (metal type) compression...
Interested in whatever will compliment my chicken pickin', and my mid-boost best. Unfortunately the comparison here doesn't give me an idea on either. :-\
A seemed to accent the treble nicely, but B brought the bass out from the back. So, really I don't know. The distortion with B had more bite. I like to use my compressor as an enhancer type effect, so that's my fav. :)
The BYOC compressor will kill the Keeley for way less money. I'll have to try out the Rothwell though. Pedals in person never sound exactly the same as you hear in Youtube videos.
round 1 A round 2 and 3 B was better. I think Ill listen on the site if its up , because you tube compresses everything to much to get a clear test I like the Smack downs alot,great info.
andy you have taught me more about guitar effects than ill ever need to know but im so thankful of pro guitar shop and their vids and i always like to see what nasty riffs you got goin on in any new vid
I have no idea who is who, cos' I'm not that fan of crompressors, but I would pick "A" for sure. Seems "B" kills the bottom end a bit, and makes the tone a tad more nasal.
In my opinion, A has the most transparency on the clean settings, while B added the best transparent sustain with distortion. I guess this decision would depend on the player's rig and his style, but don't they all?
B has a faster attack (more of a country style comp) but kills some of they higher order harmonics in the sound (or what to my ears sounds like the top sizzle)
A has a slower attack but keeps the tone better. It sounds a little more organic. I like A better
I think A sounded better as an actual compressor but b sounded more transparent. It just depends on what you like, I use compression as an effect so it not being transparent is fine with me but for people who like to use the compressor to fill out an overall sound b would probably be the better choice. I think that A might be the Keeley though....i can tell though that's not the consensus here in the comments though lol
This cowpoke thinks the Keeley sounds better. Can't comment on transparency, etc. I just think it sounds better to my ears. I do really enjoy watching Andy play. Thanks PGS.
I don't know which pedal was which but I do know that on the clean tone, Compressor A added quite a noticeable amount of high end. B was the more transparent of the 2.
On the OCD demo, both pedals sucked IMO. No comp on OD for me.
Ιt's not fair to put the 4 knob Keeley up against the Rothwell. It should have been the 2 knob model, since the Rothwell can't match the tweakability of the Keeley. The Keeley in this way can also be dialed to sound better due to the extra knob options available.
You are right, but when the knobs are inside they are there in a "set and forget" fashion because they are not directly acccessible. Does the Rothwell have any extra knobs inside to tweak it further, and if yes, were they used for this video?
B was MUCH better clean.. less screwing with the attack. A was better with the overdrive - it did tighten it up (which doesn't make any sense) , but it was close. So I guess it's a toss-up. Add a noisy bar and nobody will know the difference :-)
B is by far more transparent than A in my opinion, however; B sounds more squashed on its maximum compression. Then again, A sounds very good with overdrive.
I'M SO CONFLICTED
Well, not really, I don't like compressors along with overdrive, since most of the overdrive tones I use tend to add a touch of compression anyway.
I own a Keely 4 Knob Comp and I think A is it. There are many attributes that you can compare but at the end of the day, what's most important is what sounds best to your own ear.
"B" is the winner of these two. I am running through a Denon amp into a set of Kenleigh Speakers. So I am listening on some good stuff. "A" you can immediately tell is compressed and I hear a lot of pumping and breathing. "B" is much smoother, you can still tell it is there but it is smoother with less pumping and breathing. I would like to see this kind of smack down with the Pigtronix Philosopher's tone.
I agree with jakethequake. B is the clear winner. B is way more transparent and smooth. A sounds like it is adding quite a bit of high end, maybe even some dirt.
I like A. They are both nice but I guess it's just what style you prefer. I like a brighter sound, the A takes the cake in that department. My guess is it's the Keeley.
WhiskeyTango12 1 month ago
andy you are my next favorite guitarist next to john frusciante now
MrRhcp1998 3 months ago
Bring the smackdowns Back!!!!
Guitar1hero23 4 months ago
Contender A all the way.
WhitetailWillie 4 months ago
There are some missing mid-high harmonics with overdriven Contender A. A is also more squashy on the attacks. B sounds more full and wide and even wider in the OCD; plenty of bottom and top end.
After having listened to Rothwell's and Keeley's own demos: A is Keeley and B is Rothwell.
invivum 5 months ago
"A" has to be the keeley. So much more natural sounding
Jugglevision 7 months ago
I still really don't get what the compressor is used for
I think it sounds better on bypass
Xidkwhat2callmyselfX 8 months ago
@Xidkwhat2callmyselfX
go to the regular pgs demo of the keeley compressor, listen to it with headphones, you will completely understand, I guarantee it.
JourneyAnyWay 7 months ago
Hmmm....listen again...
At first impression,I prefer b,but hard to say if it's because of transparency so much as I just thought I liked the qualities it brought out..
Hatafuriyamanokaiju 9 months ago
TWAANG
xxguitarhero48xx 11 months ago
Andy, are you going to Demo the Fuchs Royal Plush? How do you feel it stacks up with these two in terms of transparency and sustain?
koolami268 1 year ago
Keeley, all the way.
Can't stop, wont stop.
QuaaludeMidnight 1 year ago
CANT STOP!!! liking this demos
xRAKDOZx 1 year ago
The Rothwell love-squeezed the Keeley off the board. I was just about buying the Keeley. Thanks for the demo. I wish the analogman were there too, though, as an alternate match.
TinManSixtySix 1 year ago
hey pgs which is better keeley compressor of the analogman bi comp?
collzxc 1 year ago
well now i'm just more confused i like them both for different reasons maybe i should just get both haha
RLS993 1 year ago
Did u ever have any problems with the rothwell distorting whilst the compressor knob was past 12o'clock?
2ixkarmaxi2 1 year ago
@2ixkarmaxi2 Nope, we regularly use it for guitar demos with both knobs at around 1 0'clock without distortion. We run in right after the tuner.
ProGuitarShopDemos 1 year ago
@ProGuitarShopDemos I think he meant clipping...at least thats what happen to mine at the front, end, and middle of any configuration i have...actually in front of a lovepedal kalamazoo and a ht dual, when i turn my guitar volume all the way down i get the most scarrying hizz you can imagine...not a high gain (metal type) compression...
MannyVanHalen 1 year ago
@2ixkarmaxi2 Start powering yours with an 18v supply instead of a 9v. More headroom that way. Cleaner sound.
KevinCube 1 year ago
B has more bass i'm using a sex drive as well so i think A is better for me.
RLS993 1 year ago
You never said which one is contender A or B....next time just write Rothwell or Keeley and make things easier.
12FNDR 1 year ago
Andy Rulezz!!
Aplus89 1 year ago
The Big B yo has to be the keeley
metallica12489 1 year ago
RHCP like... love that.... Andy what guitar did you use it a strat??
Aplus89 1 year ago
B by a landslide.
KevinCube 1 year ago
I think that B is a little more transparent but i actually like A a little more.
153Braeden351 1 year ago
Interested in whatever will compliment my chicken pickin', and my mid-boost best. Unfortunately the comparison here doesn't give me an idea on either. :-\
coolmodine 1 year ago
B for me, I'm guessing it's the keeley.... A is way too bright IMO
reece55 2 years ago 2
A seemed to accent the treble nicely, but B brought the bass out from the back. So, really I don't know. The distortion with B had more bite. I like to use my compressor as an enhancer type effect, so that's my fav. :)
ASJerrell 2 years ago
contender A for me
topperspoppers 2 years ago
The BYOC compressor will kill the Keeley for way less money. I'll have to try out the Rothwell though. Pedals in person never sound exactly the same as you hear in Youtube videos.
Stringprodigy 2 years ago
i would say, keeley for cleans, rothwell for distortion, keeley 4 knob wins.
Estebanfuturo 2 years ago
You can't beat a Les Paul into a Tweed for great drive tone!
But 'A' seemed to represent the licks and riffs more authentically and for me was the one.
58TweedDeluxe 2 years ago
too much top end twang on the clean
not enough top end on the dirty
A clearly loses
dcologgi 2 years ago 3
It's B definitely, more transparent and great sound with the overdrive
sotipay 2 years ago 4
every girls crazy bout a sharp dressed man!!!
aektzis91 2 years ago
B is much better, it leaves most of the bass. the A was twangier, not necessarily my kind.
guitar4life9 2 years ago 8
i liked A better, sounded more full
abarbar06 2 years ago
oooo can't stop yeah!!!
FER14FMA 2 years ago
i like A more its more twangy
befrankis 2 years ago
A was smoother and warmer I think but B was sparklier clearer and most transparent
Markn951 2 years ago
I'm liking A a little better but I agree with OcarinaJaeger: with the OCD on, I prefer bypass on the compressors.
bloozboy5 2 years ago
A has more of a natural tone
Acronso 2 years ago
round 1 A round 2 and 3 B was better. I think Ill listen on the site if its up , because you tube compresses everything to much to get a clear test I like the Smack downs alot,great info.
edadmartin 2 years ago
I actually really like A better
mysocalledchaos 2 years ago
Had to say becuase of all the compression youtube adds to videos anyway
gilbertgodlyddd 2 years ago
Whats the first song Andys plays? Under the bridge by RHCP?
DonJannis 2 years ago
@DonJannis Can't Stop by RHCP
ExplodingAstronauts 2 years ago
B is very trasparent
micantino 2 years ago
yeah b was definitely win but i thought with the ocd A was better
bddb9 2 years ago
B. B all the way. Smoother, more transparent.
Chumleh 2 years ago
Í cant hear a huge difference between A and B
goldenaxeband 2 years ago 3
i used my best headphones, and B sounded more transparent, and better with the OCD
SilverSkyline92 2 years ago 3
B should def win
scribbydibbydoo 2 years ago 2
I prefer B, but I have no idea which is which :)
mennoosmusic 2 years ago
B is the Keeley. I think...
slowpokerhino 2 years ago
A = Keeley
B = Rothwell
I'd go for the Rothwell, the smooth tone does the trick for me :)
nakarama 2 years ago
A's tone was more transparent, while B's tone was thinner.
NormanBurns 2 years ago
I think A sounded really thin in the last round.... B FTW!
Pinorules 2 years ago 2
I like B. They are both great tho, id go for which ever is cheaper
Jaredrock1996 2 years ago
The B channel kinda smoothens the sound I like it a lot.
Z0ul0u 2 years ago
andy you have taught me more about guitar effects than ill ever need to know but im so thankful of pro guitar shop and their vids and i always like to see what nasty riffs you got goin on in any new vid
ChillBroify 2 years ago
I have no idea who is who, cos' I'm not that fan of crompressors, but I would pick "A" for sure. Seems "B" kills the bottom end a bit, and makes the tone a tad more nasal.
iagobroxado 2 years ago
I HAVE TO SAY A!!!!
alvarez1284 2 years ago
Gonna have to go with B
holuj49 2 years ago
Round 1: B is colorless, but I much preferred the cleaner bright tone from A.
Round 2: Tougher call... B is colorless. A is brighter. Preferred B's ability to heavy squeeze.
Round 3: Toughest call. A can probably cut a little better due to brightness, but B has better FULL sound and sustain.
Overall winner: B
MaxPaws 2 years ago 2
I have to give my vote for contender A too. It sounded better... did exactly what I expect a good compressor to do.
t3r080 2 years ago
'B' sounded better for the first round,
'A' sounded chimey (better) for the clean INXS funk parts, I think 'B' sounded a tiny bit better for the last bit. It's up in the air.
willievega 2 years ago
Red Hot Chili Peppers! :D
B sounds sweet :D!!
Maiden92666 2 years ago
the next test has to be how long they'll sustain a note!
ultimateguitarwizard 2 years ago
they both sound better than my boss!
ultimateguitarwizard 2 years ago 2
I like B. Tone didn't change, and I thought it handled the distortion a bit better.
CrazyDave408 2 years ago
A is definetly more transparent, but I like B better.
PYROSF 2 years ago
I have no idea which is which... but I think I like B better
spider5001 2 years ago
A sounds like its adding some kind of high frequency characteristic. sounds great, but i think B sounds more true to the original frequency spectrum.
in other words, i think B is the more 'transparent' sound.
nickd444 2 years ago
definatly A
PHXMASTER 2 years ago
B wins, more sustain and cleaner
haimcito 2 years ago
bypass=win
njdenis1 2 years ago
I say B wins!
DevinBellROCKS 2 years ago
B for sure
RaianCPS 2 years ago
A!!!!
frenzexperiment 2 years ago
B is cleaner
fakiekid 2 years ago
Ya know, personally, I like Contender A with both clean and distorted...
garydupuis 2 years ago
B wins
MrBUCKETHEADcover 2 years ago 2
I just listen to the blackfinger vd and prefer it over either of these .
merrilltim 2 years ago
B is my pick..but i like a heavier compression...A is much more transparent not sure which is which..never played with either of these pedals lol
xxc3lld4m4gexx 2 years ago
Clean tone gets my vote!
TheIsaacEaton 2 years ago 3
Hm I think I prefer a with distortion and b clean.
veers0r 2 years ago
I like A
whydoesitmatter1994 2 years ago
Great job!! I love that format--completely fair--would love to see PGS use this in the future--it is a real service to the GP community.
Btw, I thought "B" was the clear winner.
glassslide 2 years ago
In my opinion, A has the most transparency on the clean settings, while B added the best transparent sustain with distortion. I guess this decision would depend on the player's rig and his style, but don't they all?
Sukainami 2 years ago
Great way to demo pedals. This way the customer's going to rely on their ears and not preconceived biases towards hyped up pedals.
Awesome job PGS!
MAlshoaiby 2 years ago
B wins
kungpow79 2 years ago
B is awesome, sounded great I reckon it would be the simpler rothwell pedal, less controls to change the actual sound
though I do like both if I'm truly honest
mickyhodge 2 years ago
I prefer B.
Dennemark 2 years ago
B sounds fantastic. No change in tone at all. Diggin how transparent it is. That is extremely rare in any pedal.
hobbitknuckles 2 years ago 3
B sounds like a compressor should. Smooth and transparent. A sounds like a treble booster. B gets my vote.
delayfordays 2 years ago 2
A gets my vote!
tjrd12 2 years ago
i like A more it sound brighter
joty676 2 years ago
I liked A better. I don;t know which is which, I think B was maybe a bit more transparent but I liked the top-end control on A.
Adji87 2 years ago
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bluepingu345 2 years ago
He was never gone.
ProGuitarShopDemos 2 years ago
Nice comeback
ToffeeConor 2 years ago
whats the song at 0:49
please somebody tell me:D
kirkhammett1993 2 years ago
Can't stop - RHCP.
Another great review. Good job PGS.
aaciseric 2 years ago 4
Cant stop, red hot
prostekukac2 2 years ago 2
I felt like they both coloured the sound slightly although B less than A. Overall though I would pick A.
cmrcs 2 years ago
No Idea who is who but I like compressor A.
stujomo 2 years ago
i would pick B
justakas 2 years ago
B did sound the most transparent, but i like the A better, its a crazy world
tremalow 2 years ago
B has a faster attack (more of a country style comp) but kills some of they higher order harmonics in the sound (or what to my ears sounds like the top sizzle)
A has a slower attack but keeps the tone better. It sounds a little more organic. I like A better
hyperboogie 2 years ago
B is the most transparent one
Zztop128 2 years ago
B gets my vote
babyslapmafro 2 years ago
I think A sounded better as an actual compressor but b sounded more transparent. It just depends on what you like, I use compression as an effect so it not being transparent is fine with me but for people who like to use the compressor to fill out an overall sound b would probably be the better choice. I think that A might be the Keeley though....i can tell though that's not the consensus here in the comments though lol
hebijebi03 2 years ago
B was the most tranparent on clean, and if they say the keeley is the most tranparent then B is the keeley but i prefered A to the most funky things
NED ANOTHER DEMO
carlosdlguerra 2 years ago
i like the B more it sounds better and adds more sustain
gothkid141 2 years ago 2
A better.
IronDoll2 2 years ago 2
Well can't decide between A or B so will have to get both then =)
ZeFredster 2 years ago
B was mathematically inconclusive organically but A was positionally accurate when judging with a confrontational perspective. Honest.........
achaarpickler 2 years ago
B for me
GavinSutherland 2 years ago 2
A is the best!
ChristianBundgaard 2 years ago
This cowpoke thinks the Keeley sounds better. Can't comment on transparency, etc. I just think it sounds better to my ears. I do really enjoy watching Andy play. Thanks PGS.
JerkyTreat 2 years ago
B is the keeley for sure,
joemiracle220 2 years ago
If you have a good setup you dont need compression as you get enough sustain anyway from your gear.
lukesteele1 2 years ago
I don't know which pedal was which but I do know that on the clean tone, Compressor A added quite a noticeable amount of high end. B was the more transparent of the 2.
On the OCD demo, both pedals sucked IMO. No comp on OD for me.
8bigtubes 2 years ago
Both sound nice but to be honest I'd take my Boss CS-3 over any other compressor I've tried.
May not be the best, but perfect for what I need.
capodastaro 2 years ago
think im a b man.
tjsr21 2 years ago
I like A better.
babymicrobe 2 years ago
x me is A
zzappino 2 years ago
A wins for me.., but like others here, bypass in overdive mode sounded a lot better..
melsamjay 2 years ago
Can't stop ;)
ExperimentalHaven 2 years ago
Ιt's not fair to put the 4 knob Keeley up against the Rothwell. It should have been the 2 knob model, since the Rothwell can't match the tweakability of the Keeley. The Keeley in this way can also be dialed to sound better due to the extra knob options available.
bloodySunday77 2 years ago
The 4 knob and 2 knob are the same circuit. Keeley just put the 2 internal controls on the outside for ease of use. Same pedal.
ProGuitarShopDemos 2 years ago
You are right, but when the knobs are inside they are there in a "set and forget" fashion because they are not directly acccessible. Does the Rothwell have any extra knobs inside to tweak it further, and if yes, were they used for this video?
bloodySunday77 2 years ago
I definately prefer B. Not sure which one it is. I think it might be the Keeley.
peterg8681 2 years ago
my opinion is: i have absolutely no idea.
eugeene42 2 years ago
B it is for me. How come you didn't feature the Diamond Compressor???
coolguitars 2 years ago
Is that a new Keeley C4? I've never seen that housing!
DemoColorScheme 2 years ago
A sounds way better to me...
TheTazMonkey 2 years ago
I think that A is the Keeley, which also receives my vote!
With the overdrive, I didn't really like either of the compressors, the bypass sounded much better on its own.
ZER0G12 2 years ago
Bypass wins especially with the overdrive. Compression I can live without.
hallaelementary 2 years ago 2
I like A. Way more alive.
ebeatworld 2 years ago
Keeley A - Keeley dude !!!
bolomsa 2 years ago
BBBBBBB, but a sounds good too. B ftw
MarkBrim 2 years ago
B sounds better to me, but I have no idea which one is which. I own the keeley and HOPE it's B!
beefyoriginal 2 years ago
B was MUCH better clean.. less screwing with the attack. A was better with the overdrive - it did tighten it up (which doesn't make any sense) , but it was close. So I guess it's a toss-up. Add a noisy bar and nobody will know the difference :-)
moucon 2 years ago
For me, the winner is contender A
surfco 2 years ago
Love the smack's
erandolapedorra 2 years ago
A seems to be a bit tighter, B is very loose and works very nicely clean.
It seems that A has more of a squash thing going on during that comparison.
And through the overdrive, B sounded the best again.
However, A would probably sound nice through high gain since it tightens up the sound
20108024 2 years ago
i'm a big no holds barred fan of Keeley so Keeley wins for me...
shine777 2 years ago
B is much, much better.
Alexsy82 2 years ago
I like A better... B I think is a bit more transparent but I like the "sparkle" that A gets. It almost makes B sound darker by comparison.
libertyfalls 2 years ago
And B was MUCH better
popomczowzow 2 years ago
B is by far more transparent than A in my opinion, however; B sounds more squashed on its maximum compression. Then again, A sounds very good with overdrive.
I'M SO CONFLICTED
Well, not really, I don't like compressors along with overdrive, since most of the overdrive tones I use tend to add a touch of compression anyway.
HotshotAtheist 2 years ago 3
I own a Keely 4 Knob Comp and I think A is it. There are many attributes that you can compare but at the end of the day, what's most important is what sounds best to your own ear.
AxeStudio 2 years ago 3
B is rothwell and A is keeley
B is way more transparent and sounded better in the overdrive setting but it seemed to squash it more in the squash test
A seemed to add a low end and take out some mids which I didn't dig. It also didn't add that same singing sustain that the other did
All in all I say B = the win
guitarslasher3100 2 years ago
B sounds better to me, both are good but A sounds like it adds brightness to the tone.
domdabombabc 2 years ago
Oh, I haven't tried either pedal so I can't tell who is who... But as I said "B" is MUCH more transparent.
speakercoilmusic 2 years ago
"B" is the winner of these two. I am running through a Denon amp into a set of Kenleigh Speakers. So I am listening on some good stuff. "A" you can immediately tell is compressed and I hear a lot of pumping and breathing. "B" is much smoother, you can still tell it is there but it is smoother with less pumping and breathing. I would like to see this kind of smack down with the Pigtronix Philosopher's tone.
speakercoilmusic 2 years ago 2
Totally agree... the winner of these should go head to head with the Philosopher's Tone
benzakonium 2 years ago
I agree with jakethequake. B is the clear winner. B is way more transparent and smooth. A sounds like it is adding quite a bit of high end, maybe even some dirt.
hobbitknuckles 2 years ago
great work!!
paolitas7 2 years ago
I've never really liked the Keeley, and I really don't like contender A, so I gotta figure keeley=A, and rothwell=b
Either way, B won in this comparison, hands down, even if I was wrong in my guesses
jakethequake91 2 years ago
I liked A with strat and B with LP
redshark1105 2 years ago
B Ftw - rothwell?
777jordan 2 years ago
Dont fake the funk
DavidRck 2 years ago
Just gave it a good long listen. B is way more transparent.
delayfordays 2 years ago 3
B is very transparent. In My opinion:
B is the Rothwell
A is the Keeley
MoneyPieBoy 2 years ago 3
I like both pedals for different for different settings, i would probably just buy both
xtexanx 2 years ago
I like B
christopho95 2 years ago 3
Yeah. B is more transparent. A doesn't sound like the original signal.
hobbitknuckles 2 years ago 3
B sounds way more smooth. A seems to add a bit of high end and grit.
delayfordays 2 years ago 2
wow this is hard to tell.
whaiyun 2 years ago
'A' sounded much more alive
AbeBiro 2 years ago 2
@AbeBiro
hear the first round with the strat how Bright is teh sound when the compressors is On
topicrass 2 years ago