The CNG car should be a hybrid and flex-fuel. No batteries or electric motors to propell the car.
CNG refilling stations will be ready to offer highly compressed air, natural gas, and hydrogen.
A CNG or Hydrogen vehicle's engine should powerup out of stops by decompressing fuel and then burn fuel to continue down the road. Present CNG vehicles ignore the fuel's high preasure energy store.
Regerative braking is possible by using the engine to compress air into a tank. Then run the car on compressed air.
CNG vehicles could combust hydrogen or operate combustionless with compressed air.
Refueling with combustible compressed gas provides 2 energy sources from 1 fuel. The gas is combustible and its under high preasure. A computer controlled all electronic valve engine allows operation as a combustion engine, compressed gas(air) engine, and regerative braking air compressor.
For long distance trips the dual fuel use gets you way down the road. If your just running short trips around town then using only compress air gets you enough miles per fill-up.
CNG , Hydrogen, and Compressed Air are all vehicle fuels that the United States is able to source. We have Natural Gas Reserves and Coal (gassified), and we have Electricity (nuclear or coal) for production of Hydrogen and Compressed Air.
Investments in refueling stations should be encouraged with provisions for all three vehicle fuels. An early effort on this front will ensure a cost effective transition providing availability of more than one fuel. CNG is the likely initial target of refueling stations. Including a requirement for air adds little expense. Enabling Hydrogen would likely be resisted until vehicles are widely available as hydrogen capable compressors are required.
Actually, it's pretty safe and easy once you get the hang of it. The nozzle snaps on using a quick connect style coupling and you then turn a valve that lets gas in but the "gas pump" doesn't start delivering fuel until after you swipe your gas card and the payment is processed.
Hydrogen (yes, they also have a hydrogen dispenser here) looks a bit complicated since for safety, one attaches a "ground" cable to the car to bleed off the static electricity but the nozzle snapped on in a similar way
I pay .64 per gallon in Utah, or 3.15 to fill up my car. Utah is the only state that is in tune with the rest ofthe world on CNG. Why is America so behind the other countries that use it? Hydrogen and Hybrids are not the answer...
Argentina is the #1 nation with Natural Gas powered vehicles. With over 2 million. Practically all taxis use it and about 1/4 of small private vehicles too. This is very popular in Russia and in Scandinavian countries.
I politely disagree. CNG and diesel are the only fuels that compete directly with gasoline. However, CNG is less expensive, cleaner, and originates from North America. CNG is special because the US Presidentail Adminstration is scared of it. Furthermore, Ford and GM have walked away from it. My two CNG vehicles are very special to me.
Don't forget Toyota, they walked away too. It was a Camery. I currently have a Dodge 94 3.3L CNG. It's running pretty well now. More problems with the dodge components than anything else. I'll be picking up a 2007 Civic GX tomorrow. Pretty excited about that. What models to you have? What fuel prices do you see?
Hopefully you caught the humor in my post. Come over to cngforum on the net. My handle is cngp71. We can talk more there. I really like the '07 GX. Wish it were bigger. I've got a CNG Police Interceptor built by Ford and a CNG Chevy Tahoe converted by ECO.
@cngp71 hello CNGP71 can i ask which vehicles you have and where in the US.
I work for the leading worldwide producer of CNG, i'm moving to ATL GA to establish our subHQ for the Lower Atlantic area, and i'm looking for any feedbacks, ideas from CNG customers thanks for your help.
CNG-Compressed natural gas. You'll usually see City buses run on it; we use it hear in California instead of Diesel since it is cleaner. CNG powered cars are less popular but you'll see them.
It's not too special here though; India uses CNG for public transportation as well and there are some countries where it is more popular for private cars since gasoline is way more expensive.
did he say $ 1.45 sweet
George21T 2 years ago
The CNG car should be a hybrid and flex-fuel. No batteries or electric motors to propell the car.
CNG refilling stations will be ready to offer highly compressed air, natural gas, and hydrogen.
A CNG or Hydrogen vehicle's engine should powerup out of stops by decompressing fuel and then burn fuel to continue down the road. Present CNG vehicles ignore the fuel's high preasure energy store.
rusty2b 3 years ago
Regerative braking is possible by using the engine to compress air into a tank. Then run the car on compressed air.
CNG vehicles could combust hydrogen or operate combustionless with compressed air.
Refueling with combustible compressed gas provides 2 energy sources from 1 fuel. The gas is combustible and its under high preasure. A computer controlled all electronic valve engine allows operation as a combustion engine, compressed gas(air) engine, and regerative braking air compressor.
rusty2b 3 years ago
For long distance trips the dual fuel use gets you way down the road. If your just running short trips around town then using only compress air gets you enough miles per fill-up.
rusty2b 3 years ago
CNG , Hydrogen, and Compressed Air are all vehicle fuels that the United States is able to source. We have Natural Gas Reserves and Coal (gassified), and we have Electricity (nuclear or coal) for production of Hydrogen and Compressed Air.
rusty2b 3 years ago
Investments in refueling stations should be encouraged with provisions for all three vehicle fuels. An early effort on this front will ensure a cost effective transition providing availability of more than one fuel. CNG is the likely initial target of refueling stations. Including a requirement for air adds little expense. Enabling Hydrogen would likely be resisted until vehicles are widely available as hydrogen capable compressors are required.
rusty2b 3 years ago
Safer than gasoline. CNG disperses if there's a leak much faster than gasoline would and has a much narrower ignition range.
diggingforgold 3 years ago
Actually, it's pretty safe and easy once you get the hang of it. The nozzle snaps on using a quick connect style coupling and you then turn a valve that lets gas in but the "gas pump" doesn't start delivering fuel until after you swipe your gas card and the payment is processed.
Hydrogen (yes, they also have a hydrogen dispenser here) looks a bit complicated since for safety, one attaches a "ground" cable to the car to bleed off the static electricity but the nozzle snapped on in a similar way
yuandrew 3 years ago
You seem knowledgeable, do you know where I could get a kit?
90210bt 3 years ago
I pay .64 per gallon in Utah, or 3.15 to fill up my car. Utah is the only state that is in tune with the rest ofthe world on CNG. Why is America so behind the other countries that use it? Hydrogen and Hybrids are not the answer...
sushka 3 years ago
natural gas has been out since 1970s
TzzX78 4 years ago
Argentina is the #1 nation with Natural Gas powered vehicles. With over 2 million. Practically all taxis use it and about 1/4 of small private vehicles too. This is very popular in Russia and in Scandinavian countries.
espjuan 4 years ago 2
I politely disagree. CNG and diesel are the only fuels that compete directly with gasoline. However, CNG is less expensive, cleaner, and originates from North America. CNG is special because the US Presidentail Adminstration is scared of it. Furthermore, Ford and GM have walked away from it. My two CNG vehicles are very special to me.
cngp71 5 years ago 5
Don't forget Toyota, they walked away too. It was a Camery. I currently have a Dodge 94 3.3L CNG. It's running pretty well now. More problems with the dodge components than anything else. I'll be picking up a 2007 Civic GX tomorrow. Pretty excited about that. What models to you have? What fuel prices do you see?
ujdo 5 years ago
Hopefully you caught the humor in my post. Come over to cngforum on the net. My handle is cngp71. We can talk more there. I really like the '07 GX. Wish it were bigger. I've got a CNG Police Interceptor built by Ford and a CNG Chevy Tahoe converted by ECO.
cngp71 5 years ago
Did you get a kit? Dual fuel? Do you know where I could get that?
90210bt 3 years ago
@cngp71 hello CNGP71 can i ask which vehicles you have and where in the US.
I work for the leading worldwide producer of CNG, i'm moving to ATL GA to establish our subHQ for the Lower Atlantic area, and i'm looking for any feedbacks, ideas from CNG customers thanks for your help.
Luc
veltroo 1 year ago
cng is still something special in the u.s., right?!
Triburion 5 years ago
CNG-Compressed natural gas. You'll usually see City buses run on it; we use it hear in California instead of Diesel since it is cleaner. CNG powered cars are less popular but you'll see them.
It's not too special here though; India uses CNG for public transportation as well and there are some countries where it is more popular for private cars since gasoline is way more expensive.
yuandrew 5 years ago