@agibbs98 The Typhoon is a multi-role aircraft,the Tornado While intended primarily as a strike aircraft to be used against ground and sea targets, the aircraft has always had a limited air-to-air capability. One version of the Tornado however was designed with this role as it's primary function, this being the Tornado ADV (Air Defence Variant) or Tornado F.2 and Tornado F.3.The RAF uses the GR4 which a ground attack aircraft.A typhoon crashed like 2 years ago and they did not ground any planes.
david cameron said it was a very old airplane, the harrier gr1 gr3 and frs1 frs2 are but these are different they are the new build harriers and not old at all, these were built in teh late 80s onwards and only upgraded recently, liar he is
@TheLloydA1 no the harrier gr5 was introduced in 1985, then the gr7s were introduced in the late 80s to early 90s, they were upgraded with brand new engines last year and new avionics, and as for being out classed, show me another plane that can stop dead in the air let the enemy fly past and shoot them down, take off from anywere pop up from no were, even so he did lie the harriers they scrapped were not old planes form the 60s, these are a totaly different airplane .
@robpeter1 Its not possible for the harrier to stop dead then get a lock on and then fire.Iam talking about carrier aircraft in which the harrier is now outclassed,Also the f-35 has a varient which uses a similar device to hover like the Harrier which is the varient which is replacing this.
@TheLloydA1 well of course its not the same as more modern planes but still very usefull and very formidable fighter, the new plane has not even been made or proven yet, and can we gurantee it will be made, after all the f22 has been or might be stopped. and id sooner them build planes here like we used to rather than buy off the shelf so that politicians can benafit through thier shares in us companies. you cant say the harrier 2 was retired at the right time, same with the nimrod crazy
@robpeter1 Australia, Britain, Canada, Denmark, Italy, the Netherlands, Norway, and Turkey. Combined, these foreign countries have contributed $4.4 billion in the aircraft’s creation. Of that amount, nearly half – $2 billion – has come from Britain.Its going threw extensive testing and has already landed on carriers It will be built.Yes the harriers should of stayed in service till the f-35 are ready.But to say the harrier was not outclassed is wrong.
@TheLloydA1 true but to a harrier an it cant be out classed, and you cant really compare them there so different, be like comparing hunter with f22 they both fly they both do millitary jobs but thats it
im just gutted at whats happened to our airforce its disgusting
@TheLloydA1 i think i made that clear, you cant compare them as they are far too different, and to a harrier fan it cant be outclassed i mean from a personal point of view, i.e. for me nothing could beat it as i love it so much, just a bit of love for an aircraft im a fan of, same as for me the best plane ever is the vulcan, and as for being disgusted at whats happened to our airfoce related to what the government is doing, and to the millitary in general is totaly awful,
@robpeter1 no you did'nt,iam comparing aircraft and the harrier is outclassed and the f-35 can do everything it can but better.And if you mean sacking people to try and get us out of debt,well its bad yeah but it has to be done.
@TheLloydA1 well go ahead compare them, i hope itsfun for you, as for the cut back they are not neccercerry, in the 1950s we had a bigger deficit and didnt but back then, all the countrys that are cutting are not getting better they are getting worse, the countries that have invested are booming again, its easy to fall for the right wing media but the problem is the global bank was responsible for the crash, and now the global bank is responsible for whats happening now to save thier own money,
@robpeter1 Stop being so childish,The cuts are necessary unfortunate but necessary.If you were a politician it would mean something as your not it has no worth.
@TheLloydA1 stop telling me what to think, your condesending tone is not appreciated, a politician is equal to a citizen as any citizen can become a politician thats part of democracy, unlike some who just belives everything there told to think, i can form my own opinions and i will do without your instruction, now please leave me alone though i know you wont as you are obviously one of the people in the world who always has to retort, so ill let youget your kick from your last mighty words bye
@robpeter1 Iam not telling you what to say, iam simply saying dont be childish but you have obviously not taken that in.Yeah a person is equal to a politician obviously,but a politician has or should have a better understanding of what and why they are cutting down on people or machines etc.Look i answered iam such a bad and childish person haha
@StevenNFFC The Apache can do alot of what the harrier can do,but also the Apache has alot flaws low speed,cant take out enemy jets etc.By outclassed i really mean from other countrys carrier aircraft.Thats why there being replaced by the f-35 lightning when the two new super carriers are ready in 2019.I think the harriers should be kept in servive till 2019,so we have a carrier aircraft.
@TheLloydA1 In that case I agree, there are certainly more capable aircraft world-wide than the Harrier but I meant that withdrawing it from our air force would leave a huge gap in our air power capabilities that will only be filled, potentially, in 2019. I just find it a bit upsetting that only a few years ago the RAF could boast the Jaguar, Harrier, Tornado F3, GR4 and Typhoon in it's fast jet department and now we only have the Tornado GR4 and the Typhoon. A sad time!
@StevenNFFC Well the Tornado and Jaguar are both ground attack aircraft so we only need the Tornado,and we have the Typhoon for air to air superiority. So we only need three types of aircraft,Typhoon (air superiority),Tornado(ground attack),and a carrier aircraft like the f-35 lightning 2.
Love the Harrier
Analog32 3 months ago
@agibbs98 The Typhoon is a multi-role aircraft,the Tornado While intended primarily as a strike aircraft to be used against ground and sea targets, the aircraft has always had a limited air-to-air capability. One version of the Tornado however was designed with this role as it's primary function, this being the Tornado ADV (Air Defence Variant) or Tornado F.2 and Tornado F.3.The RAF uses the GR4 which a ground attack aircraft.A typhoon crashed like 2 years ago and they did not ground any planes.
TheLloydA1 4 months ago
david cameron said it was a very old airplane, the harrier gr1 gr3 and frs1 frs2 are but these are different they are the new build harriers and not old at all, these were built in teh late 80s onwards and only upgraded recently, liar he is
robpeter1 4 months ago
@robpeter1 Hes not lying these planes are old and compared to other countrys carrier aircraft its outclassed.
TheLloydA1 4 months ago
@TheLloydA1 no the harrier gr5 was introduced in 1985, then the gr7s were introduced in the late 80s to early 90s, they were upgraded with brand new engines last year and new avionics, and as for being out classed, show me another plane that can stop dead in the air let the enemy fly past and shoot them down, take off from anywere pop up from no were, even so he did lie the harriers they scrapped were not old planes form the 60s, these are a totaly different airplane .
robpeter1 4 months ago
@robpeter1 Its not possible for the harrier to stop dead then get a lock on and then fire.Iam talking about carrier aircraft in which the harrier is now outclassed,Also the f-35 has a varient which uses a similar device to hover like the Harrier which is the varient which is replacing this.
TheLloydA1 4 months ago
@TheLloydA1 well of course its not the same as more modern planes but still very usefull and very formidable fighter, the new plane has not even been made or proven yet, and can we gurantee it will be made, after all the f22 has been or might be stopped. and id sooner them build planes here like we used to rather than buy off the shelf so that politicians can benafit through thier shares in us companies. you cant say the harrier 2 was retired at the right time, same with the nimrod crazy
robpeter1 4 months ago
@robpeter1 Australia, Britain, Canada, Denmark, Italy, the Netherlands, Norway, and Turkey. Combined, these foreign countries have contributed $4.4 billion in the aircraft’s creation. Of that amount, nearly half – $2 billion – has come from Britain.Its going threw extensive testing and has already landed on carriers It will be built.Yes the harriers should of stayed in service till the f-35 are ready.But to say the harrier was not outclassed is wrong.
TheLloydA1 4 months ago
@TheLloydA1 true but to a harrier an it cant be out classed, and you cant really compare them there so different, be like comparing hunter with f22 they both fly they both do millitary jobs but thats it
im just gutted at whats happened to our airforce its disgusting
robpeter1 4 months ago
@robpeter1 You cant compare them why ? the reason there so different is because the harrier is outclassed. Whats disgusting ?
TheLloydA1 4 months ago
@TheLloydA1 i think i made that clear, you cant compare them as they are far too different, and to a harrier fan it cant be outclassed i mean from a personal point of view, i.e. for me nothing could beat it as i love it so much, just a bit of love for an aircraft im a fan of, same as for me the best plane ever is the vulcan, and as for being disgusted at whats happened to our airfoce related to what the government is doing, and to the millitary in general is totaly awful,
robpeter1 4 months ago
@robpeter1 no you did'nt,iam comparing aircraft and the harrier is outclassed and the f-35 can do everything it can but better.And if you mean sacking people to try and get us out of debt,well its bad yeah but it has to be done.
TheLloydA1 4 months ago
@TheLloydA1 well go ahead compare them, i hope itsfun for you, as for the cut back they are not neccercerry, in the 1950s we had a bigger deficit and didnt but back then, all the countrys that are cutting are not getting better they are getting worse, the countries that have invested are booming again, its easy to fall for the right wing media but the problem is the global bank was responsible for the crash, and now the global bank is responsible for whats happening now to save thier own money,
robpeter1 4 months ago
@robpeter1 Stop being so childish,The cuts are necessary unfortunate but necessary.If you were a politician it would mean something as your not it has no worth.
TheLloydA1 4 months ago
@TheLloydA1 stop telling me what to think, your condesending tone is not appreciated, a politician is equal to a citizen as any citizen can become a politician thats part of democracy, unlike some who just belives everything there told to think, i can form my own opinions and i will do without your instruction, now please leave me alone though i know you wont as you are obviously one of the people in the world who always has to retort, so ill let youget your kick from your last mighty words bye
robpeter1 4 months ago
@robpeter1 Iam not telling you what to say, iam simply saying dont be childish but you have obviously not taken that in.Yeah a person is equal to a politician obviously,but a politician has or should have a better understanding of what and why they are cutting down on people or machines etc.Look i answered iam such a bad and childish person haha
TheLloydA1 4 months ago
R.I.P
BasicModelling 4 months ago
im a air cadet and a engineer from 49 sqn and he sead it wood cost £30m a year to run the harrier in lyiba and £40m to run the typhoon in lybia
i now what i wood pick
madmanofyork 5 months ago
so so gutted i wont see this plane fly again
babybex1989 8 months ago 2
I was actually there and I was in the front bit still I didn't know I wouldn't see the harrier again
Facebookgamer123 8 months ago
How can they retire such a beautiful and revolutionary machine!
StevenNFFC 10 months ago
@StevenNFFC because its outclassed now.
TheLloydA1 8 months ago
@TheLloydA1 what has outclassed it in the RAF exactly? The Tutor? Apache? We have nothing to match it's capabilities.
StevenNFFC 8 months ago
@StevenNFFC The Apache can do alot of what the harrier can do,but also the Apache has alot flaws low speed,cant take out enemy jets etc.By outclassed i really mean from other countrys carrier aircraft.Thats why there being replaced by the f-35 lightning when the two new super carriers are ready in 2019.I think the harriers should be kept in servive till 2019,so we have a carrier aircraft.
TheLloydA1 8 months ago
@TheLloydA1 In that case I agree, there are certainly more capable aircraft world-wide than the Harrier but I meant that withdrawing it from our air force would leave a huge gap in our air power capabilities that will only be filled, potentially, in 2019. I just find it a bit upsetting that only a few years ago the RAF could boast the Jaguar, Harrier, Tornado F3, GR4 and Typhoon in it's fast jet department and now we only have the Tornado GR4 and the Typhoon. A sad time!
StevenNFFC 8 months ago
@StevenNFFC Well the Tornado and Jaguar are both ground attack aircraft so we only need the Tornado,and we have the Typhoon for air to air superiority. So we only need three types of aircraft,Typhoon (air superiority),Tornado(ground attack),and a carrier aircraft like the f-35 lightning 2.
TheLloydA1 8 months ago
Awesome video mate, love it when the boring commentry gets drowned out by jet engines at airshows! Much rather listen to the sound of the engine!
jonshepherd 1 year ago
FANTASTIC VID, ABSOLOUTLY LOVE THE HARRIER
stormcruiser2 1 year ago
COMOISSO É POSSIVEL.... MEU DEUS... QUE LOUCO......
stmartinautomoveis 1 year ago
Great vid stormcab.
A fantastic aircraft..I Went to Farnborough this year, sadly no GR9 though
cheers
TimGordine 1 year ago
fantastic capture mate well done clear steady shots some camera you,ve got
there mate subbed .
westmids11 1 year ago