Navy Safety Vonage Ad

[YatesyMU]

...Will definitely be using this video at the next safety stand down... Thanks.

[DrCha0s]

@YatesyMU Send me your contact info and I'll arrange to get a DVD out to you. When is your next safety stand down?

[Captus15]

hahahah

[firehawkordy]

I always wanted to know who put this together, should've known it was a Firehawk. At least it's not a still of an AO2 getting hit by Cable Car. Yeah I still have that pic and all the others you shot of me while in VP.

[DrCha0s]

@firehawkordy Great to have you aboard, Jonesy.

[apoure25]

so whos to blame on this, the pilot or the crewman, or all of the above?

[DrCha0s]

In general, it would be all of the above. It breaks down like this:

Aircraft Commander - Takes all responsibility for the aircraft. Much like the Captain of a ship.

Pilot at Controls: Kinda made a hot-dog approach - 20% fault.

Pilot not at Controls: Should have said, "This is a kinda hot-dog approach." - 5% fault.

Crewchief and second crewman: Should have said, "Slow down, unable to clear zone." 5% fault.

Guy who fell out: Poorly seated, crew belt clipped in wrong place...: 70% fault

[smkigin]

Submitted as a part of last year's Navy safety video program, I assume?

Very well done! =)

[DrCha0s]

Actually, I made this in 2006. HSC 25 sent out the raw footage as a "don't let this happen to you" message. I couldn't resist the satire, so I edited it into what you see here. I had always planned to send it to the Naval Safety Center but I just haven't gotten to that for some reason. I guess I still could...

[smkigin]

Yeah, I think you owe it to yourself and everyone in the aviation community who needs a good laugh... =)

[airmech360]

so if your a pilot then, where did you get this video..?? you are their when it took this video..?? or grabbed this to another site..??? i think this is just a advertisement on belts right..?? not on a true actual video.. peace dude im just curious

[DrCha0s]

The original incident video was sent out, by the squadron that this happened to, to all the US Navy helicopters squadrons in San Diego. The purpose was to illustrate the dangers associated with ignoring established procedures and safety protocols. I took the video file, enhanced it, and added the music track and graphics to match the appearance of the old "Vonage" commercials on TV.

To answer your question, at the time I was a Naval Aircrewman assigned to a Special Operations Support squadron.

[jbarrett18]

Airmech, are you a crewman? NO, then I'm assuming you don't know the limitations of the H60.. This is fo-real...no special camera stuff. Just sit back and enjoy.

[airmech360]

hmm. really..?? but for me i think its not true, because helicopter cannot approach on that side wind, the ship cruising at a constant speed, and the helicopter too.. if it that say so... the helicopter then cannot perform side land because the chopper will after for the speed of the ship, therefor the approach of the chopper must slow and the speed of the ship will be decrease too, look at the deck of the ship.. do you think that transferring of cargo from ship to chopper is doing that way..??

[DrCha0s]

I flew on that model of helicopter for ten years. It is capable of sideward flight up to 35 knots. The ship is steaming about 15 knots. Normally the approach IS made from the side, but more gently. The superstructure from which this video was shot prevents a head-on approach because the risk of impacting the ship is too great. You can think whatever you want, its a free country. But I can speak from experience and facts on this, while the more you speak the more apparent your ignorance becomes.

[airmech360]

if it is true then the water should reflect an air.. there's no such air bounce into the water.. and no pilot approaches that way ... what the hell he thinks.. its like doing a suicide... haha...

[DrCha0s]

The aircraft is moving too fast over the water to leave rotor-wash (that's what we call it in the Navy) until it approaches the boat. Watch the water next to the ship when the helo is close in. Also, CH 46s DO approach that way. Often, pilots who have recently transitioned to the H-60 make the mistake of flying it like a CH-46. This approach profile was largely responsible for the crewman's departure from the door.

[airmech360]

haha.. its edited!...

[MusicLoverDk]

omg shit musik

[importsstillsuck]

UNREPS were badass...my station was aft steering KNOCKED THE FUCK OUT lol

[bartguys]

what a beast.

[igammer9999]

wow that almost looked real......if it was that was awsome piloting without a tail roter..... wow video dude

[DrCha0s]

Thanks. The video is real. The tail rotor is moving normal speed, but appears frozen due to an artifact of synchronization with the camera shutter. Very common during daylight videography of H-60 model helicopters.

[igammer9999]

wow

[spacecowboy1990]

lol this is funny, personaly i think he was pushed by the guy who you can see lean over to try to catch him:P

[hartlessjko]

it tells us not to do DAm were the fukk am i going to get a idiots o nvm i can get 1 and an helly? lolz

[importsstillsuck]

what the hell are you trying to say?

[SoaL76]

muaaahahah!!

[Jalterv3]

from where im looking the rotor isnt moving as fast as i would think it would be or maybe its in slow mo... damn im confused =(

[DrCha0s]

That's common in video. It has to do with the relationship of the video scan rate (or "shutter speed") and the rotor speed. I've shot some video where the automatic camera settings were just right to cause the tail rotor to appear stopped - which is of course impossible. This video was taken by a sailor using video mode on a digital still camera, so the frame rate was only 15 FPS. I had to enhance or "upcode" the original to get the highest video quality.

[doidoimagic]

i think he wanted to commit suicide and forgot he had a belt tied up to him.

[Jadoman2008]

at the begining it looked like it was going backwards

[DrCha0s]

Optical illusion. The helo was "sliding in" to position for a pick-up. It's a common maneuver for a CH-46 which has two main rotors instead of a tail rotor. It's a trickier move when a tail rotor is involved. Since the camera is panning to follow the helo it gives the appearance of backward flight when in fact the aircraft was moving sideways at an angle towards the camera.

[2038um]

wow, thats bad falling out of a chopter while landing

[DrCha0s]

If you enlarge the video to full screen and watch the guy who fell out all the way through, it's easy to see why he did. Helo wasn't landing but was positioning to pick up a sling load. The pilot kicked the tail the opposite direction suddenly and the crewman was in a bad place for that to happen. Aircraft literally moved out from under him.

[2038um]

ok, now I see it, it looks like the gunner is falling of the Chopter while landing / positioning

[gerkky678]

wow that would suck but in a helicopter they could land and cut the rope ...I don't think it's real though

[DrCha0s]

Yeah, it would suck. Yeah, it happened. And actually, they landed and the guy got back in. He's wearing something called a "Gunner's Belt" - allows freedom of movement in the cabin while protecting one from falling out. His was adjusted too long - common mistake. The belt can be unlatched much like a 4-point harness safety belt. Landing on a moving small ship, especially with a guy hanging underneath by a gunner's belt, is no easy task and requires great skill on the part of the pilot and crew.

[Dare39]

You have to be a bunch of retards to think thats real pmsl

[DrCha0s]

Hmmm, the motion of the moving helo in relation o the ship, the moving sling load operator ducking back out of the way, tail wheel striking part of the load on deck (difficult to pick up, might need a larger image than YouTube provides) - and people think its fake. I have much better things to do with my time than the countless hours it would take to fake this so convincingly.

[darnitalltohell]

Somebody's gotta test the safety line I guess.

[Kainustan]

Haha That is funny. yeah you can see the wash when it moves back over the ocean on the left next to the ship.

[burnin0fingers]

thats fake you would have seen the rotor wash on the water

[DrCha0s]

Tell the folks at HSC 21 that it's a fake. I personally verified this with their operations dept and even know the name of the guy who fell out. I'm keeping that quiet however for his privacy.

Oh, the reason there's no rotor-wash... There's this GIANT ship in the way - sort of hard to see in the video, it's the giant gray thing filling most of the picture.

[darnitalltohell]

Actually there is rotor wash, you can see some of it off to the sides of the ship start at 0:13. Burnin just isn't very observant I guess.

[holeks]

lol

the gun man got pwned

[handalliux]

hahaha

[GoryGloryFaen]

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[mybiceptshurt]

lol