RE One Question Atheists Never Answer

[carlodina1]

i just thought of... an atheism is like an ant on a back of an elephant, asking where is the elephant?

[jimback27]

@carlodina1 to use your logic the atheist ant would go back to the lab and form a hypotheses, have other ants prove them then make the theory of elephant. With this done the ants would begin to explore and experience the wonder of the elephant. The religious ants, who did nothing but pray and sit in their ant church would then get mad ,cause this would upset their world view. After screaming and saying it cant exist because their book said so, they would then bomb the other ants. 

[Skip43100]

@KillingOptions .. i agree , i dont beleive the politically inspired drivel and fairy stories from the politicians in the vatican or any of the major religions.

[WeAreChuckNorris]

I like you :D you're smart ...

No but really.. well said

[smeagol102]

WHY THE FUCK DO WE NEED TO NOW IF GOD IS REAL OR NOT???

Eat, drink, have sex, have fun, Enjoy life, have friends go out at night. And when you die, you will die. whatdiference does it make If god is true or not? Stop arguing about that and live your lifes. Whit god or without him lifes the same. Fuck that. And another thing: "whats the point of any of this ?" WHY DO YOU NEED A POINT.

JUST FUCKING ENJOY LIFE WHILE YOU CAN.

[FastPonyGT]

No use in arguing with the non-believers. Jesus gave sight to a blind man, raised Lazarus from the dead and the naysayers labled him a sorcerer. He even brought himself back to life yet they still wouldn't believe, nor did they want to beileve. Still no different today..

[sariglenn]

@FastPonyGT People dont believe the stories for the same reason they dont believe in leprechauns, big foot, zeus, merlin the magician, dracula, satan, goblins,demons,werewolves, etc etc. Eventually at some point whether its 100 years from now, or 10k years from now folklore passes away with time. You cant fault man for giving up on a story that happened 2k years ago. Its time to move on and find answers else where.

[sariglenn]

@FastPonyGT Did he really undoubtedly walk the earth? How about king arthur or socrates. Plenty of evidence to suggest they were real people. But its known they were part of some folklore that got beveled somewhere in between fact and fiction. you have no more proof jesus existed than the 2 characters I presented.

the story behind jesus is highly unlikely to ever have happened and no accounts exist of it but the bible. Joesphus was a plagerized work and tacitus was born after jesus died.

[FastPonyGT]

@sariglenn Yes. According to a multitude of Roman historians, such as the aforementioned Flavious Joseph, who BTW was held in such high regard that he accompanied Titus, when Titus led the Roman army against Jerusalem early in the 1st century. Another Roman, Cornelius Tacitus is regarded as the greatest historian of ancient Rome acknowledged Jesus in his writings. Even in the Qur'an, there are many stories about the life and teachings about Jesus Christ just to name a few examples.

[sariglenn]

@FastPonyGT 1..This debate has been done over and over. But none the less. Joesphus original writings are no where to be found... only a plagurized version of it exists thats it. Tacitus was born after jesus died. But with all that said , not 1...NOT EVEN ONE mentions a resurrection , miracles, walking on water etc etc.Its only spoke of in the bible. Now back to the point of king arthur and socrates. Do you believe these were real men or not. There is more proof these people existed than jesus.

[sariglenn]

@FastPonyGT 2..Why didnt we hear more about jesus. Why only the 2 writings which are cloudy at best.. Dont you think some1 as significant as the alleged son of god would have gotten a lot more attention? W/ so many authors, poets, and media why only 2 letters. one which is plagurized and another written well after his death. Even the books of the new testament were written almost 100 years after the event. Mainly written from heresay. NAME ONE EYE WITNESS ACCOUNT BESIDES THE BIBLE OF THE EVENT.

[dewycatt2112]

@sariglenn couldnt have said it better myself!..good one!

[noen1337]

@FastPonyGT

hahaha where you there and saw that?

or did you perhaps read it in a book or have a aging old man in a dress tell you in a very serious manner? :)

[FastPonyGT]

@noen1337 Were either you or myself there when World War II happened or did you read it in a book? No. It's called history. Do you know your history? Again, no.

[dblazesr]

Here's one thing I never see , atheists criticizing Judaism. You do the math

[suumr]

@dblazesr The joke is that most Jews are atheists anyways.

[dblazesr]

@suumr so they say

[bubbleglop]

@dblazesr that's because jews don't go on the internet and spread their religious bullshit like a plague of arrogance, such is the spread of christianity.

[dblazesr]

@bubbleglop no I think its because most Atheists are Jews

[quranresponse]

1400 years ago

Quran:

{Surah-57- the iron (hadid)-vs-22}

No evil befalls on the earth nor in your own souls, but it is in a book before we bring it into existence; surely that is easy to allah:

23-so that you may not grieve for what has escaped you, nor be exultant at what he has given you; and Allah does not love any arrogant boaster:

24-those who are niggardly and enjoin niggardliness on men; and whoever turns back, then surely Allah is he who is the self-sufficient, the praised.

[TManuelRodriguez]

boooooooring video

[doyoulookup]

responder, this is a very good answer to the youngster's question. His video is quite thoughtful and sincere. Your response did answer his question. 'I don't know' or 'science can not fully explain that yet' are the right answers sometimes. To give a wrong answer or insert/invent one that can not be verified iinsults a questioning mind. This young man appears bright. Maybe he will have a carreer that expands our understanding of the universe.

[KTK401]

This video didn't answer the question in the other video.....

[kramdoog]

It's simple. If a woman comes to our village and there is an earthquake, she's a WITCH. If a man comes to our village and the drought breaks he's the MESSIAH. And by the way, "The earth being round" very, very funny.

[jjoneil73]

What a meaningless load of waffle....

[sergeantkisling]

dude you look jane off of the show firefly on the thumb nail!!!

[tattoo11269]

shit, well i couldn't really get a question out of your dumb incoherent rambling, soo don't really have a answer but from what i get from this is your happy in ignorance. which is basically like every other idiot that believes in god. grow up get a college education and get rid of the imaginary friend please, also please shave that stupid ass stuff on your face that hasn't been popular since the 90s'

[erafferty02]

You're talking about the "god of the gaps" as dawkins would put it. And as we will never know everything, we will always need something to explain the unexplainable, it's human nature. Religion is a different matter, its days are numbered, and we will be better for that!

[KillingOptions]

Oh and to answer your question. If I was alive wayyy back in the day and some crazy shit went down, I'd go check it out. I would sit there with my thumb up my ass saying "ohh it must be god". If a fuckin volcano erupted. Id go check and it and say "Oh THIS is what cause it, not god." Or with an eclipse. Id watch it move by and say "Ohh something must have been in front of the sun". Because unlike a lot of people, I have a fuckin BRAIN and I use it.

[responder12345]

@KillingOptions

This is where you are wrong and we are all wrong. If we lived in any religious society, ancient Maya for example, we would believe in the sun god. The reason is because of group-think, mass-mentality, societal norms and cultures. We simply would not know of any alternative or logical thought process otherwise. As much as I would like to think that I would not be a Christian during renaissance Europe, a Muslim in Saudi Arabia or any other, I would simply be kidding myself.

[SonnyGoten89]

@responder12345 True. But because of that, I am truly grateful that I live in the 21st century. Perhaps/most likely, we will be the ones called 'ignorant' by our offspring from the future. :-)

[lumeriam]

@responder12345 The Sun is the closest thing we have in our solar system, which does represent the creator's energy. Sirius is the Central Sun, which sends gamma rays through our physical sun. There are other suns, which operate through Sirius and on to the Galactic Center which is where the highest aspect of God's energy comes.

[KillingOptions]

@responder12345 You do make sense but luckily I'm not the mass-mentality. And I do believe I would feel the same way then as I do now. Maybe I wouldnt know as much to help prove my opinion, but I would still believe there is no God or anything. If we have enough brain to question things and use God to explain why, I would have enough brain to question there being a god. I wouldnt know anything about science or the world, but Id still think 'Theres gotta be more to it than that'.

[KillingOptions]

@responder12345 Just like any religious people do. They have nothing to go off except faith.

[Authilus]

@responder12345

We subscribe to the beliefs, mores, and a variety of moral and ethical/socially acceptable ideologies of those with whom we commingle and share a community, yes. Yet this does not negate the fact that we're still individuals and, despite the regularity of group thinking, we do, by nature, have the capacity to think logically. Reason & logic isn't something we pick up in school. It's something we're capable of as humans, and can refine via education/training.

[laapache1]

@responder12345 christian do believe in the sun god they such spell it wrong

[IvoryRhapsody]

@responder12345

I can see why you would think that, and I might agree, but then how did the first atheist come about? The masses may be mostly easy to sway, but aren't there always random individuals that have an idea, a vision? I think some people are just naturally more inquisitive (Or just raving mad.) than others. Then their ideas catch on and you get a movement. Sorta like what happened with every religion. They all [religions] started somewhere.

[blackerthanebony100]

@responder12345 *watches video* .....Gordan Freeman?

[Grimdog102]

@KillingOptions It's easy to say I would've known better with the benefit of a scientific education and critical thinking skills but these things really didn't exist in ancient societies. People were ignorant, frightened and confused and when someone claimed to know the answers people believed because they didn't know any better. People in secular societies in the 21st century have no such excuse though.

[Khyrid]

@KillingOptions You described how a modern person would likely react to living in those days.

[andrewfink1]

@KillingOptions i hbope you die in a pit and get eatin and abused by ravenous tigers also i hope you get cursed with a thousand years of darkness "wwwwoowowowowoo"

-jesus saves

[KillingOptions]

how shit goes? But noo, he didn't. So what does that tell you, right from the beginning. People alllwaysss go into these super long arguments and whatever, but if you can prove one thing wrong, you proved it all wrong. So if god was real, he created Adam and Eve. Maybe Adam and Eve fell down a cliff and hit their heads and forgot about god and everything else.... Or it just DIDNT happen. Yeah, didnt happen.

[KillingOptions]

Alright, I'm going to pause your video at 0:46 and tell you where you're wrong. You said humans are curious, so of course you agree. We are curious. Always have been, always will be. So what do you think that says about god? Humans didn't have the answer to it, more humans were curious. They wanted answers. So they said it was god. But noo, not the christian god. They made sun gods and water gods and everything gods. But, dont you think the catholic god would say hey, I'm your god and this is

[beenused1]

ok with that point if all we do is become worm food what is the point of gaining knowledge if once our life force ceases to shine the knowledge dies too !!! then whats the point of any of this ?



[responder12345]

@beenused1

Good question, but perhaps you could clarify what you mean by a point to any of this and why you necessarily would require a point, or why a point would exist due to your requirement.

[KillingOptions]

@beenused1 There is no point to any of this, thats why religion and god were created. To give people a reason to live, and to live with morals. The world would be in complete fucking chaos if there wasn't religions and such. It keeps people in line, gives them a reason not to just go fuck shit up. But people are weak minded, so yeah.

[DanDelAwesome]

@beenused1

If we put the knowledge down and pass it on then we can keep the knowledge alive. Gonna sound really hedonistic and I'm sorry for that but,as far as I can tell, personally I believe life is about having fun and knowing is part of that path

[GibbyIV]

@beenused1 There is no point. Duh.

[MrWhatever45]

@beenused1 You gain knowledge in order to survive and pass your genes on to the next generation and the process keeps going and has done for millions of years,Just like the earth keeps revolving because there is no friction to slow it down it just keeps going and this is the same with the human race until some thing forcefully stops us we just keep going

[wondergundy]

@beenused1 Quite the sense of adventure you have... We pass on your knowledge to your youth. We evolved to be inquisitive... If we had not, we would have stayed up in the tree. Kind of like what you are doing here. Get on with your life.

[Downfurlife]

Who gives a fuck? Every thing is here. Answering this question is pandering to their(theist usually christian) pathetic bullshit. Fuck them, their families, their ignorance and god. They want to teach my daughter this crap - LOL. The fact we do not absolute know is not evidence to suggest their pussy god did anything. You are better off ignoring than dialoging with morons.

[responder12345]

@Downfurlife

It is important, and sometimes people ask questions because they do not know and they do believe, but without human interaction and an ear for dissent they will continue to believe what was taught to them. I can choose to ignore or to engage.

[Downfurlife]

@responder12345 There is absolutely no way you can convey new information which has not been published in a book, movie or video. Not because you are not intelligent, rational or creative. But because all the reasonable arguments, facts and evidence have been available which demonstrate theism(esp christianity) to be stupid have existed for hundreds of years. If any christian desires to know, rather than 'mentally spar' Amazon.com awaits them.

[responder12345]

@Downfurlife

Unless of course you are arguing on the deeper 'meaning' of life. In which case, if there is no meaning, or more bluntly, life is absurd, meaning that questions of existence are both unimportant and contradictory, then what prevents you from acting on such beliefs and committing suicide?

[Downfurlife]

@responder12345 I do not like Dawkins a ton. But:ww.youtube.com/watch?v=mT4­EWCRfdUg I reference because it can fit in more meaning than I can type. Sorry if I am the first to break it to you humans, like rocks came to be on this planet without purpose, meaning or 'intelligent' intention. ww.wfp.org/hunger/stats?gclid=­COHBhcOi_6ECFchD5godsWvoEQ. We are destroyed daily without purpose. My intention is to be happy. My desire is to keep theism away from my daughter. My interest is to enjoy.

[archanfel650]

@responder12345 there is no purpose to life. im not going to commit suicide. QED

[Jinxerz010792]

Natural instincts to avoid pain, and seek pleasure?

[Critic863]

@Jinxerz010792 - Yes, those are the basic instincts for almost every organism.

[vicachcoup]

@Downfurlife

Hey, what's with all the foul language - sexually orientated too - frustrated??

You also sound very aggressive.

[MegaDimon1991]

@Downfurlife if you talk like that i wonder what qualities and values your daughter gonna have don't be a douche if you learn your kid to hatred then you are more pathetic then you think teach your kid love and forgivness not killing other people mentaly. Do you want your girl to grow up in a world where every day there is a rape a killing and prostitiution i don't so stop swearing and start loving.

[ilukaylacoronado]

yeah puttin it down for team jesus

[recordingbean]

A good honest answer for the young man.....kuddos on that.....peace !!!

[b3d0w]

good answer.

[Gnickk]

Okay, so reincarnation would be better than some alternatives. But I'm not about to conclude from that that reincarnation must be real, hee hee.

[ramaraksha01]

@Gnickk Moksha is EARNED, not given, and that is the essential difference between Moksha & Heaven. One can beg for Gods mercy, grovel like a dog, and then be allowed to taste the pleasures of a flesh-pot heaven, but one cant beg for Moksha, because Enlightenment is acquired thru knowledge. Even if the Teacher takes pity on a student who turned in a bad paper, and passes him, it doesnt mean the student had suddenly acquired the knowledge. Reach for the Higher goal, reach for Moksha.

[bencsk8r]

Read a book

[percheron1654]

I concur with daredevillv...

Your response to the kids video is just as lacking in conclusiveness as the other guy... "You've essentially agreed with a persons question, and nothing more."

[mrbinks456]

fool is lost. Science totally explains GOD!!! in Every way. Science = Explanation of God's Nature and Works. Science is so amazing. all religious people who are afraid or hate science are naive!!! Big Bang = God Spoke, Consistent Math & Physics = God's Nature of being orderly and Law Abiding. look up videos with scientific proof of God, the answers are there better explained too. God is beyond whatever u try to imagine Him to put Him in the tiny box of ur mind! He is Great!

[mit871chell]

Your the same type of ideological douche bag i beat the shit out of in elementary school.

[ThieleM]

You dont have a bomb in your underpants do you?

[Stonewalljackson7]

The girls all say its "The Bomb".

[daredevillv]

this dude is so high right now in his parents living room.

[Screatus]

my parents couldnt fig out the pvr..i told them god did it,,i couldnt fig out how to pull a motor so i knew it had to be put there by god,,i prayed on it but he wasnt ready to show me how to pull a motor...

[Jer0mmel]

yawn...

[dontfuckwithus]

Religion is the lazy mans science.

[StuntedSnail]

@dontfuckwithus see you in hell ;(

[ItsRG4M3R]

@dontfuckwithus men

[justin76bmw]

we will never know all the answers' thats the best part, the more questions we awnser, the more questions we have!

[ObscurelyUnkown]

type thoughts, then recite maybe. little slow man, but great answer none the less..

[CruentusParvulus]

Personally, I do not believe in any higher force or power. Neither do I believe in any kind of Heaven or Hell.

But then, I do not believe death is not terrible 'oblivion'. There are many things in this universe which I do not understand, but my belief is that, as absurd as it may sound, when a person dies they are freed in some way.

I am a strange breed of the athiest...

[mit871chell]

Well, if Christianity is right, then over 60billion people who have died of that 6 billion were Christian and of that 6 billion 20million were true Christians so that means everyone else went to hell.

[ramaraksha01]

@mit871chell A cheap cult that roped in god to pimp proselytizing.

[lolatmyage]

dude get to the fucking point im falling asleep

[shrikechan]

That`s also the question that Christians, Muslims, Jews, and everyone else never answers either, because they don`t have the real answer. Science is only closer because of the effort made to explore the world and closely study it. We have insight at this point, but not a complete answer. However, that doesn`t meant we shouldn`t talk about it, because there are quite too many people out there who have little to no understanding of evolution and it`s mechanisms, and they need to be educated on it.

[xxero521]

It's hard for humans to accept when you die, it might be the same as before you were born. A complete void, and absense of anything at all. Your past, present, and future are destroyed at that moment. I know it's hard for me to accept that.

[holymoose69]

im not scared to die, im almost suicidal but i do fear how i die. chainsaws in my ass while i drown with venom in my blood seeeeeeeems like itll hurt, at least death will free me.

[xxero521]

Yeah, good point. It's just some people don't wan't to die. Like me, even though I get deeply depressed ((not emo lol)) and shake and completely abnormal I still like being alive, sometimes. But yeah, same here, I don't wan't to burn alive or some shit like that, that would suck balls. But if when you die, in a narcissist theory, your past, present, and future would be destroyed, it wouldn't matter.

[xxero521]

i mean nihilistic, not narcissist lol

[shrikechan]

I thought about it when I was 12 O.o I had been to my great uncle`s funeral, and I was suddenly thinking of my own death, and the fact that it`s unavoidable makes it much easier to accept. The way I see it, everything needs to die eventually, it would suck to live forever, that would be worse than anything I could imagine. I tried to imagine life with no end, no final rest, and I know it would be terrible. Everything good has to end, so there`s nothing good about eternal life.

[simonwacko]

WHAT you dont want to live foreve.. why... so you actually want to die think about what your saying

[cjla1987]

Do you beleive that we should only beleive in something that is scientifically proven?

[responder12345]

scientific does not necessarily mean proven. If something is scientific, then it is founded in reason and logic. We are raised to believe in magic, but magic does not really exist. There is only the explainable world. Science is the method of understanding it.

[cjla1987]

I will rephrase my question to, is the scientifc method the only way to find truths?

[responder12345]

Yes

[cjla1987]

How (using the scientific method) do you find truths of logic?

[responder12345]

"Is the scientific method the only way to find truths" is a good starting point. I suggest you start there.

[responder12345]

Then do research to find other possible ways to discover truth, of course defining 'truth' better would help, as lots of things are "true," ie, 1+1 = 2 = true, etc. You'll find that by guessing you have some chance at arriving at truth by accident, etc. Test your hypothesis then by using data that was not originally used for initial research.

[cjla1987]

Before the creation of the scientific method? First, how did they created it? If were going to dismiss inductive arguments because they produce conclusions that are probable but not definite, then we are in deep doo-doo. Despite its fallibility, induction is vital in every aspect of our lives, from the mundane to the most sophisticated science. Without induction we know basically nothing about the world apart from our own immediate perceptions.

[responder12345]

The scientific method guides you to reach the best conclusion or solution based on the evidence available today... balance of probability favors the view that Inductive reasoning works, but scientific method will test your inductive reasoning. No claims of "truth" are made in scientific conclusions, these are often too difficult or impossible to determine.

[responder12345]

Their are other schools of thought than empiricism, look into philosophy and you will find the other methods that were developed, such as pondering.

[responder12345]

Finally test the hypothesis. Have any "truths" been discovered by these other methods without using scientific method? Did Eratosthenes use the scientific method to discover the circumference of the Earth? For example. If the answer is no, then the scientific method is not the 'only' way.

[kubertyler]

ITS NOT MAGIC lol wow

its not a guess ether

[boundarydweller]

I know who created God ........

We did. In our heads. And that's where he exists. Lol. Stop wasting time. You can be a God yourself. Help the poor and needay. You won't go to heaven. You will however find yourself in the good books of those you helped. Spread atheism, Expose the Fed bank fraud, Look for alternate sources of energy, Boycott Energy companies like Halli and Exxon, Reject the political system be it democratic or republican, don't join the army. Join thezeitgeistmovementdotcom

[Beamshipcaptain]

We are resurrecting for mass-production suppressd free-energy and antigraity, like TT Brown and Searl technologies, as we speak. We MUST have free energy to save our economy from oil-shocks and our planet from pollution and global warming, and we need living space for the 7-billion humans living on Earth. When we have reduced our population on Earth to a billion, the Earth can heal, and we can avert disaster. Having wars, and diseaes like AIDS to cull the spcies is NOT the answer...

[strive247]

well said boundry

[juicybeast117]

@boundarydweller nicely said

[robertsen99]

very good, thanks...

[tonymers]

The whole point is, if someone would created God...then He woudn't be a God, it just simple as this, turn your logic on. You seem like a smart kid, but believe in big bang theory??? just nonesence, I would suggest you to do some reserch on that topic, and remember evolution is a fairy-tale, it's not a sience, it was never scientificly proven or observed. Nothing happends by it self, look around and go out and show me at least one thing that evolved or created by it self, there are none...

[REZJT]

@tonymers

how can you cherry-pick scientific theory?

why believe in the theory of gravity? or atomic theory? or the theory of electromagnetism? ect...

the theories behind evolution were indeed scientifically proven ( papers on the "Origin of species" have been peer reviewed and is constantly scrutinized) and observed (just look for the evidence, like google "transitional fossils" or "vestigial organs" or " dinosaurs" (they are not found above the kt-boundary with humans btw).

[conman2317]

Would it be fair to say that the universe always existed in one form or another. I mean to ask where the universe came from being a believer is utter stupidity, because then the atheist will simply ask, where did the creator come from? who created the creator??? most theists will say god always existed, they just cornered themselves.... what if the universe always existed....

[thehunter006]

The creator of this universe need not have a creator because he exists outside of this universe and its laws of cause and effect, therefore these relationships would not necessarily apply to him...

[conman2317]

well if he exists in a form not measureable or even falsifiable, why believe in him in the first place? how do you know for certain he exists?? what about all the other religious gods?? what about leprechauns? they could exist outside of the universe, but you don't go and believe in them? may be its because there isn't a book written about them that many people to believe is true....

[PopularAtheist]

There is no "him." The idea of god is only in your head because you were spoonfed dogma.

[AntitheisticAtheist]

Very good example, one I've heard before but still insightful. That's the reason we've proven so much of what religion teaches wrong, because before we had science we had guesswork.

[Jwrita4]

but not everything can be answered with out current system of logic (science) & therefore the BEST answer would be "we dont know" however this does not MEAN we should label the creator "god"... We just simply do not know....and we should live freely instead of living in a self inflicted fear...

[responder12345]

the scientific method came about around 300 years ago after philosophy and religion were separated out. This happened around the time that the vacuum pump was invented. Religious types were saying it was sacrilege because God cannot be pumped out, and so on. It was due to this fighting that the groups were separated.