@xynth101088 there are athiest telling people to shut the fuck up and there wrong,this is forcing ur opinion on someone,if u say "in my opnion,i believe that,,ect"then u are putting ur point accros in a debate-like fashion.
as for supernatrual events,there are events personal to me,,witch i try to prove to nobody because i cant,they are impossible to prove.with every single account of anything inexplicable ppl will just ignore it,its strictly personal experience on that subject so cant be argued
So quick question, who wrote the bible? does anyone know.. No they dont, I think bit is a little retarded the way people worship the bible when they have no clue who wrote it, it could have been the town drunk for all you know, you say evolution is far fetched well I think its a little easier to beleive that some unseen being (god) creating the world in 7 days and 7 nights or what ever the bible says, I dunno just my personal opinion
why is everyone trying to shove their opinions down eachothers throats?u believe what u believe,whats the big deal?why is everyone so obssesed with converting someone to there beliefs?the athiests are becomming as bad as the christians!there is no physical evidence for a god but there is supernatural occurances in this world,witch we cant explain,so neither side has a monopoly on the facts,granted,the athiest have the better case,but cant explain everything so untill we know it all,let people be
@reeceyhiggs I have yet to meet an atheist that tries to force someone to become an athiest. The atheists here on youtube may get a bit rude, but the bottom line that they all are saying is for theists to prove what they are asserting. Like for instance, your line about supernatural stuff. Name one time in the world that there as been something supernatural that was actually proven to be supernatural and not just some story that someone made up?
@smokeRollin2010 go back to your bible fuckhead, if you guys are gonna fucking go on about how much you lust for jesus's dick you should cut your throats and go be with him to take his dick up your ass. do us all a favor aye?
and you two are arguing with each other, just goes to show how much of a fucking idiot you both are to fucking go off at each other. FUCKING HELL wont these people FUCK OFF back to their fucking churches to get molested by their priests! fuck these stupid fucking christians
@SmokeRollin2010 How can i burn if there is nothing physically there to burn? My soul isn't physically there and has no nerves, so yeah idc if i go to hell because it won't hurt anyway. Mad?
@RecKzR Prove that theres nothing physical there. Prove to me that God isnt there. You cant. Id rather believe and be safe rather that not believing and burning because your views are wrong.
@SmokeRollin2010 My views aren't wrong, you have no evidence that God exists. Oh is heaven in the sky Neil Armstrong must have missed it on the way to the moon. BTW do you believe in unicorns?
@RecKzR You completely avoided where I asked you to prove to me that your spirit isnt physical. You also avoided where I wanted you to disprove the existence of God. Unless you can prove either of these to me, or yourself for that matter, you might wanna open up a bible just one more time and maybe, just MAYBE your pitiful soul will be saved through GOD.
@SmokeRollin2010 There is no scientific evidence. No photographic evidence or any other evidence of God's existence. Also, how is a spirit physical? Where the fuck can you see/hear/smell/taste/touch a spirit? Exactly. You need to grow out of this God shit, do you still believe i santa and the tooth fairy lmao
@CodytheGreat99 I'm a good person. Hell doesn't exist. If heaven and hell did exist i would definitely be going to heaven because i have a huge dick and God is all over that shit.
@SmokeRollin2010 That's Pascal's wager, and it's retarded. If the Buddhists are right you'll be reincarnated as a dung beetle. If the Greeks were right you'll go to Hedes. If the Hindus are right you'll go to their hell. Believing in the Judeo-Christian god 'just to be safe' is nonsensical and cowardly.
@SmokeRollin2010 So you only believe in God because it's the safe option? You're not a real, committed Christian at all. You'll go to hell for that for sure. Your eternity is going to really suck bro.
@MultiRoydon Your an idiot. You believe what you want, I'll believe what I want. If your right, when we die nothing will happen. If I'm right, when we die you'll burn for eternity. Who eternity is gonna suck then "bro"?
@SmokeRollin2010 firstly, did you ever complete 1st grade at school? Your English is atrocious. Secondly, you didn't even bother to find out what I believe. I am a Christian and I am going to go to heaven because I have real faith. You have said that you believe in Almighty God because it is safer for you to cover your bases. He won't have that. When we die, I will go to heaven and you will go to hell. Good luck bro.
@MultiRoydon If your not even an athiest then why the fuck are you arguing with what I'm saying? To believe in God, I'm pretty sure I'm a little safer than these idiots. And isnt that why you believe in God? Because you dont wanna go to hell?
@SmokeRollin2010 No. That's exactly my point. And that's exactly why I'm arguing with you. Are you really that stupid that you can't understand that? You really must've failed 1st grade.
@MultiRoydon Good one fag. Thats the 2nd "first grade" insult you've thrown my way. Clever, someones a fuckin genius! Way to go bud. I'm sure you made it to second grade no problem huh?
@RecKzR Prove it. Can you? And dont send me some dumb ass retaliated question until you can answer mine. Can you prove that your spirit isnt physical? If you can I'd love to see the proof. Mad?
@SmokeRollin2010 You just contradicted yourself, the bible doesn't state that the soul is a physical thing. I won, you're just a regular dumb christian.
@SmokeRollin2010 Atheist are arrogant? Yeah some of us are I can admit that but theists Christians aren't? Christians believe that god is real and only their pserpective of god is real and everyone else is wrong and yet cannot prove their claim. THATS ARROGANCE
not to mention their religion has them at the center of the universe and the center of their God's attention. Like for some reason they alone stand at the grace of something so powerful it can create universes lol.
I wish you guys didn't hang up on the nutcase. I would have loved to hear him dance around why people and apes existing at the same time disproves evolution. It would have made for some good laughs.
@Tommyr dude, no need to be rude, everyone's entitled to their own beliefs no matter what. That's one of the points, as I understand, this show tries to impress.
i have proof: the atheists believe the big bang theory right? well, if that theory was true, then all the planets and suns and other all appeared out of nowhere. really? well if the sun was any farther or closer to us, we would all die. how could all that just randomly appear? i just gave proof that god did exist.
@ParaPerception no you didnt. First of all the big bang theory has evidence but its not proven and its still a mystery how it began. The planets and the sun just didnt just poof into existence. You should watch The Universe which is on netflix stream. I hope this will give a better understanding.
@Hazzasproductions Trying too hard. I am your god. I see what you doth dith thar, and I shall not verily forgive thee. You shall writeth a letter of apology to thine god, which is I most holy. So shall it be written, so shall it be done.
@ParaPerception First of all, an athiest dosn't have to believe that Nothing + Nothing = Everything. I sure as hell dont. The big bang THEORY is still an unfinished one, but so far thats how far science has evolved.
Now there are expected to be billions and billions of planet out in this world. Count that with a timeline of 13.7 billion years. Dont you think with so much time and space that life SHOULD be created?
i don't really understand your point here but i will tell you that you have not yet proven that god exists just for the fact that earth is in the perfect conditions to harbor life. do you really think that it is a coincidence that out of the hundreds of millions or perhaps billions of stars is it strange that one was in the perfect condition to harbor life? i know that it is very unusual to win the lottery but nevertheless i know someone will hit the jackpot.
No, you just demonstrated your total lack of understanding of the big bang theory and cosmological science in general. Moreover, even if you COULD falsify the big bang theory, that wouldn't mean your god exists. It just means the big bang theory is incorrect. Similarly, if I prove that leprechauns don't make your garden grow, that wouldn't prove that unicorns do.
@yankwilliams Evolution doesn't attempt to create life with nothing it explains how the simplest of prokaryotic cells can gradually, over millions of years form the complex lifeforms we know today. You obviously have a complete ignorance of the basic principles of evolution. (If your a troll this is a good one ;) )
JESUS CHRIST, HIS CATHOLIC-UNIVERSAL-APOSTOLIC CHURCH, SACRAMENTS, THE BIBLE, MIRACLES, HEALINGS, ST. MARY APPARITIONS, MESSAGES FROM HEAVEN, SIGNS IN 2011 ARE NOT A MYTHOLOGY BUT THE REALITY !!!
although i totally agree with your standing with your information... how you handle this guy makes us other athiest look like smug A-holes. Take the smile off of your face like you know some secret and stop being so condescending. Even if his logic is that of a toddler, doesn't mean you should openly laugh in his face... oh wait.. yes it does!!!! ha ha ha silly creationist
And btw at least a thousand years ago you could look up and actually SEE the fucking planets. You show me this crazy flying man and Ill agree with your point. I think you know damn well we will never figure it all out, and you know what? WHO CARES. Its ok if we dont. Why MUST we know. Once again, arrogance has filled the room.
you are that ignorant douche-bag. You know what I meant. But I do appreciate the unnecessary correction. Sometimes when exaggeration is being used, one has to be intelligent enough to read between the lines and interpret what the statement really means.
I cant stand listening to people argue their point on how the fuck we got here. Its like two blind people arguing over what color a strawberry is. Fact is, that even with our scientific discoveries, there will never be a way to actually PROVE how all this shit we see around us got here. NEVER! Its arrogant human beings that just have to express their opinion in order to be right and "respected".
But it sure is some fucking awesome entertainment. LOL
@theciskokidd I wouldn't say never. For this simple reason:
If you traveled back in time, say a thousand years ago, and told people we will eventually discover how the planets orbit, they would have said impossible.
ah the two model thingy, well done for exposing that there is no 'Creation Science' or Theory of Special Creation or Intelligent Design. Most Cretards seem to believe that 1. evolution can be easily refuted and 2. then Creationism wins by default. Funny the more creationists go on about evidence the less they seem to produce (none at all). And finally well done dudes for pointing out that this is a false dichotomy. ALL Christians accept evolution apart from creationist/fundamentalist/tards
Anyone else here think "Bill" knows something that none of us knows? and yet, he just doesn't want to divulge it? After all, he did admit to knowing there are people and there are monkeys. That should seal the case. Next question ...
"Evolution is a fact, by the way." Thank you! It seems like even the most knowledgable athiests and scientist refuse to say that evolution is a fact, even though that is a completely accurate statement. Evolution HAS BEEN PROVEN. There is no use in trying to claim that evolution is not real. IT IS. What we are trying to determine here is whether or not evolution is how humans came into existence. This would actually be progress. Trying to disprove/prove evolution is futile. Too late.
The only reason that people claim that its proven is that there is no other naturalisitc explanation of how it couldve occured, bc naturalists exclude God as a possibility. The new theory is that aliens from another universe planted life here.
@j919or There are serious problems with what you are saying. You obviously don't know much about evolution. Evolution and Origin of Life are two seperate issues. You are trying to argue against evolution because you say it's can't be how life got on earth, while evolution doesn't claim it has an answer for origin of life. Second, evolution is not proven by lack of other proofs, it has been proven outright by the observation of animals, plants, genes, mutations, etc. COLD. HARD. FACT
@j919or it's not a "claim" that is has been proven. It HAS been proven. Animals evolve and change over long periods of time, this is not disputable it is proven to occur. For instance the existance of lizards in Brazil (if i remember correctly) were found in a cave where no light was present at all. These lizards had no eyes because there was no need for eyes in a place without light. Guess what... these lizards were identical in both DNA and physical form as another with eyes.
Is it really best to try to get people to drop their belief in a God or Gods? It seems to me that the God argument has taken a turn for the worse. We should not be strictly focusing on creationists dropping their beliefs of God, but their ideas of Organized religion. Organized religion is the real problem here. If the majority of the World were Deists, it wouldn't present much of an issue, would it?
@nickfrostdude123 Your dialog is ridiculously 16th century, it's 2011 for gods sake (pun intended) you sound like the crazies I used to deal with when I worked at a mental hospital. "Hell this" and "hell that" 'Your a dirty sinnah" LOL.
If I knew he was going to digress ALL the way back to the human and monkey debate (we're apes not monkeys btw) I would not have watched any of this...damnit.
Oh its Bill the asshole caller again. His voice is even irritating. The proof of evolution is right in front of us. Some of us can understand the natural world through education and some are born knowing everything without having any education at all I give you Bill.
I am religious, but i do not like the way the cristian guy is trying to prove the creation theory. Its either his way or the highway..
I think that the phone prover should have atleast conducted a deep research, going to many facts and theories and compare them to creation theories before jumping to conclusions.
Same goes for the evolution thinkers, in depth analysis of the creation theories and compare them to the evolution theories...
Both could have scientific and maybe even spiritual explena
There is no such thing as a 'Creation theory'. The term 'theory' in science has a very different meaning than in every day life. Something does not become a theory until there is massive amounts of demonstrable evidence to support it.
Where is the demonstrable evidence for the 'God did it' claim?
Evolution only concerns the explanation of why there is such a variety of life on Earth, it does not explain how it got here.
I love it when they drop their one liners with a tone of snobish contempt, like 10 yo playing with their very first sophism. "the very science you're using to disprove creation is blah blah blaaaaaaah "
I hope you people realise is all your doing is causing the christians to shout a whole lot louder with this show... we look for people who are athiest or believe wrongly and try to change them... you think the old lady at church every snday is the one the pastor is trying to reach - no hes trying to get all you people who dont go to church in to church and to help you learn... - you bash Christianity because you know its correct - otherwise you wouldnt care if you didnt believe it had som truth
what i cant understand is if the bible is total nonsense then why do you people fight so hard against it... i challange every person who doesnt go to church and looks at this to go one sunday to a christian church. sit quietly and listen and walk out of there unchange... its impossible... just one sunday is all i ask.
atheists should watch this video they dont need to belive just watch and learn something you will loose nothing by watching this video and you dont need to belive we have belif and be respectfull when we say something about atheisim you are shouting us when you say something about our religion we have no right to speak about it why ? you are accusing my religion whit this video but ı have no right to speak why :???
This talk show is so ridiculous! I hate these kinds of disputes between historical science worldviews. Each side rationalizes evidence for the support of their own worldview, but neither party is willing to make any compromises. Especially the atheists/evolutionists. They think they're so intelligent, but the only knowledge they really have is their own biased opinions.
Also, abiogenesis and evolution are mutually inclusive. You cannot have one without the other.
@7DragonTech7 You do not need to have abiogenesis to have evolution. Abiogenesis attempts to explain the origins of life, evolution only explains the diversity of life. The two are not the same.
Are you serious?!?! So how, might I ask you, did the life required for evolving come about without abiogenesis? And also, how do we have what we see today if only abiogenesis occurred? True, abiogenesis and evolution are not the same. They are very much not the same. But they are dependent on each other. You can't have evolution without abiogenesis, and vice versa. Claiming otherwise is ignorant and absurd.
Sad. Believers, with nothing but gullible faith plus their ridiculous bible, are no match for circumstantial atheists in a debate. They're already groggy at the beginning of the first round.
@cuevarap ""Believers, with nothing but gullible faith ""
Its true that some believers dont know how to put what they know into logical debate. But I do. So I take ur challenge and meanwhile I challenge u to debate me on the fulfillment of the destruction of Tyre prophecied by Ezekial 26. Tyre was destroyed by Nebuchadnezzar and 300 years later all of its rubble was cast into the sea and the foundation scraped clean like a bare rock...just as predicted.
@j919or I touched a nerve, huh? You wish your bible would've been written by a real God! A perfect concise summary of astonishing wisdom needless of absurd cover ups, '0' contradictions, non expiring info, clear just stunning instructions on how to appeal the author, no bipolar phsycotic self sacrificing bloody BS, an all day current guide compatible with every religious tendency of the world, an accurate conductor for scientific investigation. That's an impartial reference for a debate!
Nah. Its just that your argument is most absurd. But by all means continue with the argument. Refute what I typed or admit that you cant.
My guess is that you are another idiot looking to justify his evil and raging conscience. You read a little and now u feel that u can ride the wave of the experts. SO either keep blowing smoke or rum away for you will be embarrassed if u enter into a logical rational debate with me.
@j919or it seems that your just trying to come up with excuses and evidence for ur faith and every time these have been explained and rebutted but u insist that ur god exists, ur morally inferior god that supports rape, genocide, murder, the very notion of 'hell', slavery and many other things that your church now preaches to be wrong and unjust.Why dont u get some scientific papers together read them (and make sure u understand them) and then see if the evidence supports ur claims. but it wont.
My faith IS the evidence. You cant understand that but for those that can, its like being blind ur whole life and telling everyone else that there is no such thing as color and then having ur eyes open to see what theyve been seeing and youve been denying ur whole life.
@chuckn0rris100 ""morally inferior god that supports rape, genocide, murder, the very notion of 'hell', slavery "
Ill debate you on each topic, if u really want to be embarrassed. Keep in mind that im not denying that Gods wrath is against the unrepentant, it is. And that includes you, chucknorris, youve already begun to make excuses rather than repent. I can assure you that they will only hold up in the dark. God is light and the evil of yalls attitudes ill be revealed.
« The fossil record establishes the falsitiy of the Darwinian prediction »
Only insofar as Darwin expected a perfectly gradual change, whereas we find in the fossil record change with a varying rate. He was right about common descent, however, and about descent with modification, and about natural selection - although we later found that natural selection is not the only mechanism directing evolution.
@XGralgrathor ""find in the fossil record change with a varying rate""
U must be joking. We dont find change in the fossil record. Fossils are snapshots not movies. Natural selection is a destroyer. It is the environment of raw energy working on complexity and destroying it. There is not machine/mechanism to build complexity. Mutations dont and u know it. Ur all loathsome evil slime from the pit of hell.
Yes we do. We find sequences of diverging progressions in morphological characteristics.
Or do you want to propose that your god created progressively divergent forms, and has been doing so since the beginning, and in a way that compellingly suggests common descent to boot?
You're welcome to give it a go. I hope you don't mind being laughed at.
@XGralgrathor ""find sequences of diverging progressions ""
Nonsense, we find inventions of scientists to fit their needs to justify evolution. Fossil are skeletons and the flesh is applied to those skeltons in the form that best sues evolutionary theory. Its called assumption. Now, I dare you to show these diverging progressions. IOW support this drivel. And I will show that the evidence is not conclusive by contrived and interpeted to fit a presupposition.
« There is not machine/mechanism to build complexity »
Yes, there is: reproductive variation and differential reproductive success. Charles Darwin was one of the first people to formulate the mechanism more or less comprehensively.
both breeding, which produces variation, and adaptation are already are programmed into the genes by the infinite creator. Yall refuse to see this and darkness will be ur eternal state. It is so obvious that God not only made it all but maintains it all. And yet you rebel against the light bc ud rather hide ur evil than have is cleansed and forgiven. FOOLS!!!
Variation is "programmed into" the *physics* of reproduction: the simple fact that nature, including chemistry, is chaotic, dictates that offspring is never genetically identical to the parent. Evolution is therefore inevitable as soon as self-replicating autonomous agents exist.
You idiot! The "phsyics"? Physics contradicts the formation and maintenance of life. You are a loathsome self deceived tool of evil. Chaotic? Your mind is chaotic but only bc satan controls it.
You merely spout the assumptions made by the fools that want to hide their evil behind evolution.
@j919or Calling people idiots will not get them to believe in your fairy tales. Satan controls his skeptical mind? Satan is yet another imaginary friend of yours. I pity you, 919. If you were looking from the perspective of an actual skeptical mind, you'd see how sad and pathetic the Bible really is. So many contradictions, lies, references to killing (yes, even in the NT; you can't hide from that), etc. Wake up.
P.S. Here's a little bit of grammatical advice: When quoting, use only 1 ".
I give reasons why they earn the label of idiots. I have nothing personal against yall, but your are spouting lies and therefore must be labeled as deceivers with evidence to support that assertion. So u get the entire package.
« Physics contradicts the formation and maintenance of life »
...!? Really? *HOW*, kid? What physics contradicts chemistry? Hm? Come out with it, show us WHY EVERY biologist, biochemist and physicist is wrong, while you're right, boy.
That information to make huge chances in the single cells is present in the two cells. Those two cells form an intensely complex orgamism complete with all types of glands to handle all types of problems and conditions. SO with adaptation. The information is already in the cells to adapt to many types of environmental conditions, so that the species doesnt die out.
@j919or You missed the point about adaptation discussed in evolution and adaptation used as an everyday word. Adaptation in the everyday sense fits your definition, where we are capable of handling various environmental conditions by altering our metabolism. Adaptation in the evolutionary sense refers to the fact that variations among species due to mutations would cause certain species to live better in one particular environment, and the traits possessed by those species are favored in evolu.
@j919or Consequently, those species are better adapted to that environment. When environment changes, due whatever reason (climate change, continental drift, etc), a new set of traits might better suited for the new environment, and population within a specie with those traits are better adapted for the new environment. Since these traits are defined by the genetic codes of those organisms, their development from fetus into baby does not make them more or less adapted
@mowmowmowful Adaptation is not from mutation but from the infinitely complex design of the creator. You ascribe it to random processes. Youve made ur decision and hell is ur condition both now and forever. I wish I could change ur mind.
@j919or Ummm....yeah...only if your GOD is right. But, there are many holy books and many gods, what makes you so sure yours is right? What if Buddhism is right, and we reincarnate? And the fact I don't condemn others to hell means I reincarnate as a better being, and you reincarnate as a cockroach? Furthermore, I can't believe that your creator can't design a perfect world with beings perfectly suited for that world, so no ADAPTATION is needed. Isn't that creator a bit weak?
shakes head-rolls eyes and facepalm-the lack of logic and the extent of this callers ignorance is astounding!
dancingnancy09 19 hours ago
creationists and religion are the biggest limitation to the advancement of mankind
callum1131 21 hours ago
@Dustin3129 good post,i couldnt aggree more!!
reeceyhiggs 1 day ago
@xynth101088 there are athiest telling people to shut the fuck up and there wrong,this is forcing ur opinion on someone,if u say "in my opnion,i believe that,,ect"then u are putting ur point accros in a debate-like fashion.
as for supernatrual events,there are events personal to me,,witch i try to prove to nobody because i cant,they are impossible to prove.with every single account of anything inexplicable ppl will just ignore it,its strictly personal experience on that subject so cant be argued
reeceyhiggs 1 day ago
So quick question, who wrote the bible? does anyone know.. No they dont, I think bit is a little retarded the way people worship the bible when they have no clue who wrote it, it could have been the town drunk for all you know, you say evolution is far fetched well I think its a little easier to beleive that some unseen being (god) creating the world in 7 days and 7 nights or what ever the bible says, I dunno just my personal opinion
Dustin3129 1 day ago
why is everyone trying to shove their opinions down eachothers throats?u believe what u believe,whats the big deal?why is everyone so obssesed with converting someone to there beliefs?the athiests are becomming as bad as the christians!there is no physical evidence for a god but there is supernatural occurances in this world,witch we cant explain,so neither side has a monopoly on the facts,granted,the athiest have the better case,but cant explain everything so untill we know it all,let people be
reeceyhiggs 2 days ago
@reeceyhiggs I have yet to meet an atheist that tries to force someone to become an athiest. The atheists here on youtube may get a bit rude, but the bottom line that they all are saying is for theists to prove what they are asserting. Like for instance, your line about supernatural stuff. Name one time in the world that there as been something supernatural that was actually proven to be supernatural and not just some story that someone made up?
xynth101088 1 day ago
@smokeRollin2010 go back to your bible fuckhead, if you guys are gonna fucking go on about how much you lust for jesus's dick you should cut your throats and go be with him to take his dick up your ass. do us all a favor aye?
and you two are arguing with each other, just goes to show how much of a fucking idiot you both are to fucking go off at each other. FUCKING HELL wont these people FUCK OFF back to their fucking churches to get molested by their priests! fuck these stupid fucking christians
aussiemerc101 2 days ago
wat a nut job
TheFrustratedAtheist 2 days ago
I was created... isn't it obvious?
zaxxxon 2 days ago
"There is people and there is monkeys...and they are totally different"
there are two things i have to say about this.
1) It's wrong there are far more similarities than dissimilarities
2) I think it was spoken by a monkey that thinks it has out smarted the educated people
JEL625 2 days ago
That's why he's bald... I almost ripped all my hair after hearing what the caller said at 6:52
juliovaresio 4 days ago
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juliovaresio 4 days ago
if i had a brain then i could use it- but since i believe in creatonism i choose not to use it!!!!! dumb ass!!!!!
freedom1234573 6 days ago
well there we have it people theres people and theres monkeys xD
ChrisLikesBass 6 days ago
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seanmathews009 6 days ago
This chick needs to SHUT THE FUCK UP!! THAT ARROGANT CUNT!!! LET THE MOTHER FUCKER TALK!!!!!!!!!!!!!
SmokeRollin2010 1 week ago
Athiest are so fucking arrogant. Have fun burning.
SmokeRollin2010 1 week ago
@SmokeRollin2010 How can i burn if there is nothing physically there to burn? My soul isn't physically there and has no nerves, so yeah idc if i go to hell because it won't hurt anyway. Mad?
RecKzR 1 week ago
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SmokeRollin2010 1 week ago
@RecKzR Prove that theres nothing physical there. Prove to me that God isnt there. You cant. Id rather believe and be safe rather that not believing and burning because your views are wrong.
SmokeRollin2010 1 week ago
@SmokeRollin2010 My views aren't wrong, you have no evidence that God exists. Oh is heaven in the sky Neil Armstrong must have missed it on the way to the moon. BTW do you believe in unicorns?
RecKzR 1 week ago
@RecKzR You completely avoided where I asked you to prove to me that your spirit isnt physical. You also avoided where I wanted you to disprove the existence of God. Unless you can prove either of these to me, or yourself for that matter, you might wanna open up a bible just one more time and maybe, just MAYBE your pitiful soul will be saved through GOD.
SmokeRollin2010 1 week ago
@SmokeRollin2010 There is no scientific evidence. No photographic evidence or any other evidence of God's existence. Also, how is a spirit physical? Where the fuck can you see/hear/smell/taste/touch a spirit? Exactly. You need to grow out of this God shit, do you still believe i santa and the tooth fairy lmao
RecKzR 1 week ago
@RecKzR Have fun in hell dude.
CodytheGreat99 1 week ago
@CodytheGreat99 I would but it doesn't exist.
RecKzR 1 week ago
@CodytheGreat99 I'm a good person. Hell doesn't exist. If heaven and hell did exist i would definitely be going to heaven because i have a huge dick and God is all over that shit.
RecKzR 1 week ago
@CodytheGreat99 Awesome witnessing. He's about to pray through because of you now.
IsHeDied 1 week ago
@SmokeRollin2010 That's Pascal's wager, and it's retarded. If the Buddhists are right you'll be reincarnated as a dung beetle. If the Greeks were right you'll go to Hedes. If the Hindus are right you'll go to their hell. Believing in the Judeo-Christian god 'just to be safe' is nonsensical and cowardly.
Slanguaj 3 days ago
@SmokeRollin2010 So you only believe in God because it's the safe option? You're not a real, committed Christian at all. You'll go to hell for that for sure. Your eternity is going to really suck bro.
MultiRoydon 2 days ago
@MultiRoydon Your an idiot. You believe what you want, I'll believe what I want. If your right, when we die nothing will happen. If I'm right, when we die you'll burn for eternity. Who eternity is gonna suck then "bro"?
SmokeRollin2010 2 days ago
@SmokeRollin2010 firstly, did you ever complete 1st grade at school? Your English is atrocious. Secondly, you didn't even bother to find out what I believe. I am a Christian and I am going to go to heaven because I have real faith. You have said that you believe in Almighty God because it is safer for you to cover your bases. He won't have that. When we die, I will go to heaven and you will go to hell. Good luck bro.
MultiRoydon 2 days ago
@MultiRoydon If your not even an athiest then why the fuck are you arguing with what I'm saying? To believe in God, I'm pretty sure I'm a little safer than these idiots. And isnt that why you believe in God? Because you dont wanna go to hell?
SmokeRollin2010 2 days ago
@SmokeRollin2010 No. That's exactly my point. And that's exactly why I'm arguing with you. Are you really that stupid that you can't understand that? You really must've failed 1st grade.
MultiRoydon 2 days ago
@MultiRoydon Good one fag. Thats the 2nd "first grade" insult you've thrown my way. Clever, someones a fuckin genius! Way to go bud. I'm sure you made it to second grade no problem huh?
SmokeRollin2010 2 days ago
@RecKzR Prove it. Can you? And dont send me some dumb ass retaliated question until you can answer mine. Can you prove that your spirit isnt physical? If you can I'd love to see the proof. Mad?
SmokeRollin2010 2 days ago
@SmokeRollin2010 Yes. If you disect a human body there is no soul/spirit. Point proven, next?
RecKzR 2 days ago
@RecKzR Wrong, read a bible.
SmokeRollin2010 1 day ago
@SmokeRollin2010 You just contradicted yourself, the bible doesn't state that the soul is a physical thing. I won, you're just a regular dumb christian.
RecKzR 1 day ago
@SmokeRollin2010 Atheist are arrogant? Yeah some of us are I can admit that but theists Christians aren't? Christians believe that god is real and only their pserpective of god is real and everyone else is wrong and yet cannot prove their claim. THATS ARROGANCE
Shiesha32941000 1 week ago
@Shiesha32941000
not to mention their religion has them at the center of the universe and the center of their God's attention. Like for some reason they alone stand at the grace of something so powerful it can create universes lol.
elvebrothergenju 3 days ago
@elvebrothergenju I agree with you
Shiesha32941000 3 days ago
I wish you guys didn't hang up on the nutcase. I would have loved to hear him dance around why people and apes existing at the same time disproves evolution. It would have made for some good laughs.
Michael55443 1 week ago
this callers stupidy is astounding!!!!!
MegaMarkerr 1 week ago
BECAUSE THE BIBLE SAYS SO!!!!
TheyCallMeTheBdawg 1 week ago 4
Just because Evolution is wrong, doesn't mean that Creation is right.
fred10538 2 weeks ago
7:24 HAha She's like "Le him talk.. so we can laugh after."
crisalis12345 2 weeks ago
Who else saw the title and came here for laughs ? xD
FinnAtheist 2 weeks ago
@FinnAtheist I saw, and I did.
TarousDT 2 weeks ago
@FinnAtheist Your mom.
IAM18YEARSOLDANDOVER 2 weeks ago
it would be fucking hilariouse if he ended with the trololo guy
riskingeuphoria 3 weeks ago
This caller is yet ANOTHER clueless, "trying to refute evolution and prove creation but can't" moron.
Tommyr 3 weeks ago
@Tommyr dude, no need to be rude, everyone's entitled to their own beliefs no matter what. That's one of the points, as I understand, this show tries to impress.
Bloodbirdy 2 weeks ago
prank call.
seanmathews009 3 weeks ago 8
@seanmathews009 I wish. A lot of theists actually believe that apes still existing is proof that evolution is a lie.
Zero9656 1 week ago
@Zero9656 ah. poe's law applies here, then.
seanmathews009 6 days ago
@seanmathews009 Sadly no. he has called in before, and he is serious.
1stCainite 2 days ago
@1stCainite lol holy crap.
seanmathews009 2 days ago
i have proof: the atheists believe the big bang theory right? well, if that theory was true, then all the planets and suns and other all appeared out of nowhere. really? well if the sun was any farther or closer to us, we would all die. how could all that just randomly appear? i just gave proof that god did exist.
ParaPerception 3 weeks ago
@ParaPerception no you didnt. First of all the big bang theory has evidence but its not proven and its still a mystery how it began. The planets and the sun just didnt just poof into existence. You should watch The Universe which is on netflix stream. I hope this will give a better understanding.
imation879 3 weeks ago
@ParaPerception So who made god??
elspoko 3 weeks ago
@elspoko Natural substance
Hazzasproductions 3 weeks ago
@Hazzasproductions Then we are gods. Thank you for clarifying that.
elspoko 3 weeks ago
@elspoko fuck off you athiest bastard when 2012 dosent happen then christians will be laughing in athiests face
Hazzasproductions 3 weeks ago
@Hazzasproductions Trying too hard. I am your god. I see what you doth dith thar, and I shall not verily forgive thee. You shall writeth a letter of apology to thine god, which is I most holy. So shall it be written, so shall it be done.
elspoko 3 weeks ago
@Hazzasproductions uhhh im an athiest and i dont believe the world ending in 2012 soooooo your dumb
MegaMarkerr 1 week ago
@ParaPerception First of all, an athiest dosn't have to believe that Nothing + Nothing = Everything. I sure as hell dont. The big bang THEORY is still an unfinished one, but so far thats how far science has evolved.
Now there are expected to be billions and billions of planet out in this world. Count that with a timeline of 13.7 billion years. Dont you think with so much time and space that life SHOULD be created?
iRobii 3 weeks ago
@ParaPerception Sorry I mean evolve. Not created
iRobii 3 weeks ago
@ParaPerception
i don't really understand your point here but i will tell you that you have not yet proven that god exists just for the fact that earth is in the perfect conditions to harbor life. do you really think that it is a coincidence that out of the hundreds of millions or perhaps billions of stars is it strange that one was in the perfect condition to harbor life? i know that it is very unusual to win the lottery but nevertheless i know someone will hit the jackpot.
asdfjkl7268 2 weeks ago
@ParaPerception
"all the planets and suns and other all appeared out of nowhere. "
Solar systems form in space out of cold gas and dust clouds in a galaxy. Definitely from something and somewhere.
"if the sun was any farther or closer to us, we would all die."
The Earth has an elliptical orbit. We're closest to the Sun in January and farthest from the Sun in July, so its distance varies.
None of "all that" randomly appears. There are natural processes that occur.
MadHighway 2 weeks ago
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@ParaPerception "the atheists believe the big bang theory right?"
Most of us accept this scientific fact as true. But then, so do most educated christians. The evidence is fairly overwhelming.
"then all the planets and suns and other all appeared out of nowhere. "
No.
"well if the sun was any farther or closer to us, we would all die."
No.
"how could all that just randomly appear?"
It couldn't. We never claimed it could.
BailiffQuimby 1 week ago
@ParaPerception
"i just gave proof that god did exist."
No, you just demonstrated your total lack of understanding of the big bang theory and cosmological science in general. Moreover, even if you COULD falsify the big bang theory, that wouldn't mean your god exists. It just means the big bang theory is incorrect. Similarly, if I prove that leprechauns don't make your garden grow, that wouldn't prove that unicorns do.
BailiffQuimby 1 week ago
Watch Bill Nye the science guy. Little kids are able to grasp the idea of evolution. EVOLUTION IS A FACT.
Thinkdeep420 3 weeks ago 2
EVOLUTION IS A FACT. SCIENCE RULES!!!!
Thinkdeep420 3 weeks ago
Was this caller a shill? NO ONE in this world is that stupid.
peraspira 3 weeks ago
I thought that it was Elvis Presley who created the world.
peraspira 3 weeks ago
@yankwilliams Evolution doesn't attempt to create life with nothing it explains how the simplest of prokaryotic cells can gradually, over millions of years form the complex lifeforms we know today. You obviously have a complete ignorance of the basic principles of evolution. (If your a troll this is a good one ;) )
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JezusSlave 4 weeks ago
yea, there are people and there are monkeys, and you seem to be a monkey.
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I can disprove Evolution w/ science.Noone can take an empty flash& create a living cell from scratch
yankwilliams 4 weeks ago
Hey look a monkey learned to call some people on the thinking atheist.
subnoize123 1 month ago
although i totally agree with your standing with your information... how you handle this guy makes us other athiest look like smug A-holes. Take the smile off of your face like you know some secret and stop being so condescending. Even if his logic is that of a toddler, doesn't mean you should openly laugh in his face... oh wait.. yes it does!!!! ha ha ha silly creationist
ZachRN619 1 month ago
*** Spoiler alert ***
Monkeys!
pastanoodledeity 1 month ago
And btw at least a thousand years ago you could look up and actually SEE the fucking planets. You show me this crazy flying man and Ill agree with your point. I think you know damn well we will never figure it all out, and you know what? WHO CARES. Its ok if we dont. Why MUST we know. Once again, arrogance has filled the room.
theciskokidd 1 month ago
You know what you are?
"Hey buddy what time is it?"....
"Its 3:20"......
"Uhhh no im sorry actually its 3:23"
you are that ignorant douche-bag. You know what I meant. But I do appreciate the unnecessary correction. Sometimes when exaggeration is being used, one has to be intelligent enough to read between the lines and interpret what the statement really means.
I bet you have sex with the lights off dont you?
theciskokidd 1 month ago
That is the longest"Then why is there still monkeys" I have ever heard.
semiLivedj 1 month ago
I cant stand listening to people argue their point on how the fuck we got here. Its like two blind people arguing over what color a strawberry is. Fact is, that even with our scientific discoveries, there will never be a way to actually PROVE how all this shit we see around us got here. NEVER! Its arrogant human beings that just have to express their opinion in order to be right and "respected".
But it sure is some fucking awesome entertainment. LOL
theciskokidd 1 month ago
@theciskokidd good comment
jackocloud 1 month ago
@theciskokidd I wouldn't say never. For this simple reason:
If you traveled back in time, say a thousand years ago, and told people we will eventually discover how the planets orbit, they would have said impossible.
iz2sicc 1 month ago in playlist Best Of The Atheist Experience
ah the two model thingy, well done for exposing that there is no 'Creation Science' or Theory of Special Creation or Intelligent Design. Most Cretards seem to believe that 1. evolution can be easily refuted and 2. then Creationism wins by default. Funny the more creationists go on about evidence the less they seem to produce (none at all). And finally well done dudes for pointing out that this is a false dichotomy. ALL Christians accept evolution apart from creationist/fundamentalist/tards
scarletharlot69 1 month ago
these guys are heroes!!! it takes so much inner strength to sit and listen to all these bullshit!!
Ichthyologistic 1 month ago 2
Every time this caller spoke, one billion of my brain cells committed suicide.
157626 1 month ago
Proof of Creation: "My proof of creation is pretty simple. There"s people and there is monkeys. And they're totally different.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAA!!!!!! WTF?!
AK33M 1 month ago
I cringed every time the caller talked.
SAGE111222333 1 month ago
It would appear as if Bill has gone full retard.
adamsbeer 1 month ago
Another Creatard bits the dust!!
allanfries76 1 month ago 4
@allanfries76 I love that 'Creatard' LOL
bp8322 1 month ago
MATT VS JESUS HAHA
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TheAnimatheist 1 month ago
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"go for it GOD, FUK YOU....... nope still here. God killed a tribe of 42000 cause they couldnt pronounce a word properly"
freakiest421 1 month ago
ROFLOLOLOLOLOLOL
My proof of creationism is simple. There is people, and there is monkeys.
Pissed my self at his ignorance.
AirsoftPractice 1 month ago 2
This guy has to be a POE.
RamoneHoffman 1 month ago
The stupid, it burns!
MaybeFactor 1 month ago 46
@MaybeFactor My eyes! The goggles do nothing!
TheronSax 1 month ago
Anyone else here think "Bill" knows something that none of us knows? and yet, he just doesn't want to divulge it? After all, he did admit to knowing there are people and there are monkeys. That should seal the case. Next question ...
tracer740 1 month ago
Hmmm....yet, it was a catholic priest named George Lemaitre who discovered the Big Bang Theory.
zztstenglish 1 month ago
"Evolution is a fact, by the way." Thank you! It seems like even the most knowledgable athiests and scientist refuse to say that evolution is a fact, even though that is a completely accurate statement. Evolution HAS BEEN PROVEN. There is no use in trying to claim that evolution is not real. IT IS. What we are trying to determine here is whether or not evolution is how humans came into existence. This would actually be progress. Trying to disprove/prove evolution is futile. Too late.
TheUnsungOne 1 month ago
@TheUnsungOne "Evolution HAS BEEN PROVEN"
The only reason that people claim that its proven is that there is no other naturalisitc explanation of how it couldve occured, bc naturalists exclude God as a possibility. The new theory is that aliens from another universe planted life here.
Tell me how u think life first came to be.
j919or 1 month ago
@j919or There are serious problems with what you are saying. You obviously don't know much about evolution. Evolution and Origin of Life are two seperate issues. You are trying to argue against evolution because you say it's can't be how life got on earth, while evolution doesn't claim it has an answer for origin of life. Second, evolution is not proven by lack of other proofs, it has been proven outright by the observation of animals, plants, genes, mutations, etc. COLD. HARD. FACT
TheUnsungOne 1 month ago
@j919or it's not a "claim" that is has been proven. It HAS been proven. Animals evolve and change over long periods of time, this is not disputable it is proven to occur. For instance the existance of lizards in Brazil (if i remember correctly) were found in a cave where no light was present at all. These lizards had no eyes because there was no need for eyes in a place without light. Guess what... these lizards were identical in both DNA and physical form as another with eyes.
TheUnsungOne 1 month ago
Tracie is getting a kick out of this guy. Matt seems just completely exasperated.
darkchibicosmos 1 month ago 15
@darkchibicosmos they're both fucking idiots.
cyberbully5 1 month ago
Is it really best to try to get people to drop their belief in a God or Gods? It seems to me that the God argument has taken a turn for the worse. We should not be strictly focusing on creationists dropping their beliefs of God, but their ideas of Organized religion. Organized religion is the real problem here. If the majority of the World were Deists, it wouldn't present much of an issue, would it?
Just my thoughts.
olebra1393 1 month ago
"the big bang isn't in the fossil record"
Lulz
blackacidlizzard 1 month ago
LLLLLLLLMMMMMMMMMAAAAAAAAOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Reiincarnation 1 month ago
I'm a Christian who is also a vocal critic of Creationism, which is RETARDED.
Forallilovebook 1 month ago
"Creationism is pretty simple. There's people, and there's monkeys. They're totally different, that proves it."
Makes perfect sense now!
irishgirl993 1 month ago
Evolution is not fact, adaptation is, common misconception! You can love your sin but it will be the death of you.
nickfrostdude123 1 month ago
@nickfrostdude123 Your dialog is ridiculously 16th century, it's 2011 for gods sake (pun intended) you sound like the crazies I used to deal with when I worked at a mental hospital. "Hell this" and "hell that" 'Your a dirty sinnah" LOL.
SuperJBrowne 1 month ago
How on Earth do these fuckwits go from day to day with such infantile ideology?
morgandude2 1 month ago
Unreal! How stupid can a person be?
morgandude2 1 month ago
If I knew he was going to digress ALL the way back to the human and monkey debate (we're apes not monkeys btw) I would not have watched any of this...damnit.
SilentMott 1 month ago
i think its comical theres a show for this jargon!! ignorance is bliss in the case of the perect athiest..
ulsterscothosy 1 month ago
@ulsterscothosy
"ignorance is bliss"
That's funny that's how atheists feel about theists.
thirdLeg 1 month ago 3
@ulsterscothosy better to be ignorant of faith than ignorant of truth.
dkthg 1 month ago
Oh its Bill the asshole caller again. His voice is even irritating. The proof of evolution is right in front of us. Some of us can understand the natural world through education and some are born knowing everything without having any education at all I give you Bill.
baxtar2012 1 month ago
The proof uh ... uh ... how was life formed ... SMH that dumb ass.
kileer7 2 months ago
tions to them.
There might be even a bridge between science and spirituality (religion being part of spirituality)
I think we humans look at this way too simple and try to discuss and maybe even bash eachother searching for an explenation for everything.
Just my humble opinion...
flosdraad 2 months ago
I am religious, but i do not like the way the cristian guy is trying to prove the creation theory. Its either his way or the highway..
I think that the phone prover should have atleast conducted a deep research, going to many facts and theories and compare them to creation theories before jumping to conclusions.
Same goes for the evolution thinkers, in depth analysis of the creation theories and compare them to the evolution theories...
Both could have scientific and maybe even spiritual explena
flosdraad 2 months ago
@flosdraad
There is no such thing as a 'Creation theory'. The term 'theory' in science has a very different meaning than in every day life. Something does not become a theory until there is massive amounts of demonstrable evidence to support it.
Where is the demonstrable evidence for the 'God did it' claim?
Evolution only concerns the explanation of why there is such a variety of life on Earth, it does not explain how it got here.
pandstar 2 months ago
enjoy your delusions stupid bible thumpers.
dkthg 2 months ago
I love it when they drop their one liners with a tone of snobish contempt, like 10 yo playing with their very first sophism. "the very science you're using to disprove creation is blah blah blaaaaaaah "
chibraxial 2 months ago
I hope you people realise is all your doing is causing the christians to shout a whole lot louder with this show... we look for people who are athiest or believe wrongly and try to change them... you think the old lady at church every snday is the one the pastor is trying to reach - no hes trying to get all you people who dont go to church in to church and to help you learn... - you bash Christianity because you know its correct - otherwise you wouldnt care if you didnt believe it had som truth
jaxon19kira 2 months ago
@jaxon19kira
Now, assuming we 'bash christianity' because we 'know' it's true is ignorant.
Reasons why Atheists 'bash Christianity':
1. Atheists think Christians are negatively influencing everyone.
2. Atheists grew up in Christian communities and were persecuted.
3. Christians made the first attack, and atheists had to hunker down and churn out facts to defend their beliefs.
4. There are members of both Christianity and atheism who are naturally aggressive.
Nepycros 1 month ago
@jaxon19kira thats the most sensible comment to be read here!!
ulsterscothosy 1 month ago
@ulsterscothosy wait im confused is that good or bad....
jaxon19kira 1 month ago
what i cant understand is if the bible is total nonsense then why do you people fight so hard against it... i challange every person who doesnt go to church and looks at this to go one sunday to a christian church. sit quietly and listen and walk out of there unchange... its impossible... just one sunday is all i ask.
jaxon19kira 2 months ago
@jaxon19kira I did that several times. And we fight against it because of all the backwards logic in the Bible and all the bad things in it.
atheistjacob 1 month ago
Dear Christians and Athiests, Idc about the facts,
Many Lies,
Flint
Flint925 2 months ago
This caller is such a douche.
SupremeChimp 2 months ago
Was he one of the monkeys? I think that be proof of something but I cannot figure out, what?
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fuckmania07 2 months ago
Ever heard a christian say "God doesn't want anyone to go to Hell"? That's another thing in the long list that sadly occurs against His will.
cuevarap 2 months ago
This talk show is so ridiculous! I hate these kinds of disputes between historical science worldviews. Each side rationalizes evidence for the support of their own worldview, but neither party is willing to make any compromises. Especially the atheists/evolutionists. They think they're so intelligent, but the only knowledge they really have is their own biased opinions.
Also, abiogenesis and evolution are mutually inclusive. You cannot have one without the other.
7DragonTech7 2 months ago
@7DragonTech7 You do not need to have abiogenesis to have evolution. Abiogenesis attempts to explain the origins of life, evolution only explains the diversity of life. The two are not the same.
s5b678 2 months ago
@s5b678
Are you serious?!?! So how, might I ask you, did the life required for evolving come about without abiogenesis? And also, how do we have what we see today if only abiogenesis occurred? True, abiogenesis and evolution are not the same. They are very much not the same. But they are dependent on each other. You can't have evolution without abiogenesis, and vice versa. Claiming otherwise is ignorant and absurd.
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cuevarap 2 months ago
Sad. Believers, with nothing but gullible faith plus their ridiculous bible, are no match for circumstantial atheists in a debate. They're already groggy at the beginning of the first round.
cuevarap 2 months ago 10
@cuevarap ""Believers, with nothing but gullible faith ""
Its true that some believers dont know how to put what they know into logical debate. But I do. So I take ur challenge and meanwhile I challenge u to debate me on the fulfillment of the destruction of Tyre prophecied by Ezekial 26. Tyre was destroyed by Nebuchadnezzar and 300 years later all of its rubble was cast into the sea and the foundation scraped clean like a bare rock...just as predicted.
j919or 2 months ago
@j919or I touched a nerve, huh? You wish your bible would've been written by a real God! A perfect concise summary of astonishing wisdom needless of absurd cover ups, '0' contradictions, non expiring info, clear just stunning instructions on how to appeal the author, no bipolar phsycotic self sacrificing bloody BS, an all day current guide compatible with every religious tendency of the world, an accurate conductor for scientific investigation. That's an impartial reference for a debate!
cuevarap 2 months ago
@cuevarap ""I touched a nerve, huh?""
Nah. Its just that your argument is most absurd. But by all means continue with the argument. Refute what I typed or admit that you cant.
My guess is that you are another idiot looking to justify his evil and raging conscience. You read a little and now u feel that u can ride the wave of the experts. SO either keep blowing smoke or rum away for you will be embarrassed if u enter into a logical rational debate with me.
j919or 2 months ago
@j919or it seems that your just trying to come up with excuses and evidence for ur faith and every time these have been explained and rebutted but u insist that ur god exists, ur morally inferior god that supports rape, genocide, murder, the very notion of 'hell', slavery and many other things that your church now preaches to be wrong and unjust.Why dont u get some scientific papers together read them (and make sure u understand them) and then see if the evidence supports ur claims. but it wont.
chuckn0rris100 1 month ago
@chuckn0rris100 " evidence for ur faith"
My faith IS the evidence. You cant understand that but for those that can, its like being blind ur whole life and telling everyone else that there is no such thing as color and then having ur eyes open to see what theyve been seeing and youve been denying ur whole life.
j919or 1 month ago
@chuckn0rris100 ""morally inferior god that supports rape, genocide, murder, the very notion of 'hell', slavery "
Ill debate you on each topic, if u really want to be embarrassed. Keep in mind that im not denying that Gods wrath is against the unrepentant, it is. And that includes you, chucknorris, youve already begun to make excuses rather than repent. I can assure you that they will only hold up in the dark. God is light and the evil of yalls attitudes ill be revealed.
j919or 1 month ago
@IHeartAardvarks
« The fossil record establishes the falsitiy of the Darwinian prediction »
Only insofar as Darwin expected a perfectly gradual change, whereas we find in the fossil record change with a varying rate. He was right about common descent, however, and about descent with modification, and about natural selection - although we later found that natural selection is not the only mechanism directing evolution.
XGralgrathor 2 months ago
@XGralgrathor ""find in the fossil record change with a varying rate""
U must be joking. We dont find change in the fossil record. Fossils are snapshots not movies. Natural selection is a destroyer. It is the environment of raw energy working on complexity and destroying it. There is not machine/mechanism to build complexity. Mutations dont and u know it. Ur all loathsome evil slime from the pit of hell.
j919or 2 months ago
« We dont find change in the fossil record »
Yes we do. We find sequences of diverging progressions in morphological characteristics.
Or do you want to propose that your god created progressively divergent forms, and has been doing so since the beginning, and in a way that compellingly suggests common descent to boot?
You're welcome to give it a go. I hope you don't mind being laughed at.
XGralgrathor 2 months ago
@XGralgrathor ""find sequences of diverging progressions ""
Nonsense, we find inventions of scientists to fit their needs to justify evolution. Fossil are skeletons and the flesh is applied to those skeltons in the form that best sues evolutionary theory. Its called assumption. Now, I dare you to show these diverging progressions. IOW support this drivel. And I will show that the evidence is not conclusive by contrived and interpeted to fit a presupposition.
j919or 2 months ago
« There is not machine/mechanism to build complexity »
Yes, there is: reproductive variation and differential reproductive success. Charles Darwin was one of the first people to formulate the mechanism more or less comprehensively.
XGralgrathor 2 months ago
@XGralgrathor ""reproductive variation ""
both breeding, which produces variation, and adaptation are already are programmed into the genes by the infinite creator. Yall refuse to see this and darkness will be ur eternal state. It is so obvious that God not only made it all but maintains it all. And yet you rebel against the light bc ud rather hide ur evil than have is cleansed and forgiven. FOOLS!!!
j919or 2 months ago
@j919or
"programmed into the genes"
Variation is "programmed into" the *physics* of reproduction: the simple fact that nature, including chemistry, is chaotic, dictates that offspring is never genetically identical to the parent. Evolution is therefore inevitable as soon as self-replicating autonomous agents exist.
XGralgrathor 2 months ago
@XGralgrathor ""*physics* of reproduction""
You idiot! The "phsyics"? Physics contradicts the formation and maintenance of life. You are a loathsome self deceived tool of evil. Chaotic? Your mind is chaotic but only bc satan controls it.
You merely spout the assumptions made by the fools that want to hide their evil behind evolution.
j919or 2 months ago
@j919or Calling people idiots will not get them to believe in your fairy tales. Satan controls his skeptical mind? Satan is yet another imaginary friend of yours. I pity you, 919. If you were looking from the perspective of an actual skeptical mind, you'd see how sad and pathetic the Bible really is. So many contradictions, lies, references to killing (yes, even in the NT; you can't hide from that), etc. Wake up.
P.S. Here's a little bit of grammatical advice: When quoting, use only 1 ".
EinsteinxtremeRoblox 2 months ago 2
@EinsteinxtremeRoblox "''''"Calling people idiots """"""
If the shoe fits....
I give reasons why they earn the label of idiots. I have nothing personal against yall, but your are spouting lies and therefore must be labeled as deceivers with evidence to support that assertion. So u get the entire package.
j919or 2 months ago
« Physics contradicts the formation and maintenance of life »
...!? Really? *HOW*, kid? What physics contradicts chemistry? Hm? Come out with it, show us WHY EVERY biologist, biochemist and physicist is wrong, while you're right, boy.
XGralgrathor 2 months ago
@XGralgrathor ""What physics contradicts chemistry?""
Raw energy harms order and causes decay, it doesnt produce order unless harness by a machine with information to produce the structure/organism.
j919or 2 months ago
« Raw energy harms order »
Or creates it. This is observed. Supergranulation and convection are easily observed instances of how energy creates order.
XGralgrathor 2 months ago
@XGralgrathor ""Supergranulation and convection""
Thats not order.
j919or 2 months ago
@XGralgrathor "*not* what we call adaptation""
That information to make huge chances in the single cells is present in the two cells. Those two cells form an intensely complex orgamism complete with all types of glands to handle all types of problems and conditions. SO with adaptation. The information is already in the cells to adapt to many types of environmental conditions, so that the species doesnt die out.
j919or 2 months ago
@j919or You missed the point about adaptation discussed in evolution and adaptation used as an everyday word. Adaptation in the everyday sense fits your definition, where we are capable of handling various environmental conditions by altering our metabolism. Adaptation in the evolutionary sense refers to the fact that variations among species due to mutations would cause certain species to live better in one particular environment, and the traits possessed by those species are favored in evolu.
mowmowmowful 2 months ago
@j919or Consequently, those species are better adapted to that environment. When environment changes, due whatever reason (climate change, continental drift, etc), a new set of traits might better suited for the new environment, and population within a specie with those traits are better adapted for the new environment. Since these traits are defined by the genetic codes of those organisms, their development from fetus into baby does not make them more or less adapted
mowmowmowful 2 months ago
@mowmowmowful Adaptation is not from mutation but from the infinitely complex design of the creator. You ascribe it to random processes. Youve made ur decision and hell is ur condition both now and forever. I wish I could change ur mind.
j919or 2 months ago
@j919or Ummm....yeah...only if your GOD is right. But, there are many holy books and many gods, what makes you so sure yours is right? What if Buddhism is right, and we reincarnate? And the fact I don't condemn others to hell means I reincarnate as a better being, and you reincarnate as a cockroach? Furthermore, I can't believe that your creator can't design a perfect world with beings perfectly suited for that world, so no ADAPTATION is needed. Isn't that creator a bit weak?
mowmowmowful 2 months ago