X-treme draw

[sendahojust1]

: before getting down on the shot press the cue shaft firmly down on your bridge hand in the air. Now bring the cue down and aim while keeping that downward pressure with the cue shaft on your bridge hand. Now do a few warm up strokes while keeping that downward pressure. Now aim the cue just a little bit low on the cue ball ""not too far low"" then stroke through the shot with that downward pressure still on your bridge hand and stroke through the same way you would stroke a force follow.

[ontarioboy101]

I'm so glad to hear he loves the Lord. I've seen his videos, and he seems like such a nice guy!

[poolplayer2093]

anyone know what kind of tip he has on that cue?

[MyTNGirl]

Mike's a great guy, I remember he came in the pool hall in Ft. Oglethorpe GA. He weighted 130 LBS. He just came in off the road. After that he gave his life to Christ and turned his life around. One heck of a nice guy.

[MyTNGirl]

Great Shot Mike, I wonder if you would shoot that in a tournment?

[BlackCatPool]

Guys, don't feel bad if you miscue on this shot. I have done clinics with Mike where he does this shot and often Mike will miscue and send the cue ball flying across the room. BTW, Mike is one of the greatest guys you will ever meet in the game.

[zebramanish]

i cant understand why i cant do this... just trying but the ball goes flying :P do i have to lightweight ball or some shit?

[GhosstofShadows]

@zebramanish You're most likely hitting the table first, scooping the ball. In the video, Mike is actually hitting below the miscue limit (think of a striped ball, the lowest contact point you should ever hit is the width of the stripe, where here he is clearly far below that) which is extemely difficult to do.

[jimmywoods1906]

Looks like a Predator Z shaft that creates more spin. My question is what is the song in the background it pretty nice!!!

[joeygonzo]

@jimmywoods1906

Z shafts do not have 1" ferrules

[jimmywoods1906]

@joeygonzo Yea your right just brought one a few weeks ago with a Schon Cue

[dragovic90srb]

This guy was in the movie called Poolhall Junkies ;)

[Bladerunner55217]

I suspect you have to have an excellent tip and also when he says you have to go low he means you have to go all the way :)

[frankcqIII]

does shots like that mess up the cue? That was a big bend to the shaft...

[Kolenschopper]

Its a nice shot to have on your arsenal. But i think Mike isnt really honest on how to play this shot. Sure best is to let your arm go really through in this shot to get maximum spin, but thats not how he plays it. He plays it choaked. Look at the shot in the beginning.

I almost never see anyone that actually follows completely though.

[dallaskennels]

in this game all of you think are the best...wtf? this guy above is a pro and you and me would never play as good as he does it..so respect the guy ..he knows..thats why you and me are watching him..lol..fuk da heaters!!!

[mikeywikeylikey]

no you moron, wood is not the only material in the world

[cha0tic]

HOly crap, the bend on the shaft is completely insane! Wouldnt that mess up the cue?

[tommy9927]

@cha0tic

It doesn't harm the shaft. On breakshots the bending is much more extreme, up to a 45° angle. Google for breakshot pictures of Thorsten Hohmann for example

[Skillzplaya96]

for some reason, it makes the shot look better for the simole fact that he is wearing a tux

[BilliardInstruction]

Think about why Predator Cues would build a robot "Iron Willie" where the mechanics of the machine prohibit the rotating of the pivot point (elbow in humans) to obtain accurate measurements for cue performance.

[LeonFleisherFan]

Notice Massey drops his elbow after his tip makes contact with the cue ball, just as one should (if one drops it at all, that is, which if at all possible, one shouldn't), so nothing out of the ordinary except that he's just one big hunk of a man with a springiness all of his own. Wow!

[BilliardInstruction]

Watch in Slow Motion, Mike is dropping his elbow before contact. About 2 inch drop before contact and continues to drop all the way through as a result of the anterior deltoid and pectoralis major contraction. More muscle doesn't equal more speed, only more force. Velocity (V) is more important. KE = 1/2m X V2. ~ Jesus Loves Us!

[LeonFleisherFan]

Massey lifts his elbow before contact, by the way, or else he'd hit the cue ball higher than anticipated, which would be detrimental to the draw action. The point isn't mine, but HIS, that dropping the elbow would in any way improve that power draw action - that's the part I don't buy. Your observation is spot-on: it's about velocity - but don't underestimate the moving mass here!

[LeonFleisherFan]

Should have said, lifts his elbow during the back swing, of course, but you know what I mean: whether or not he moves more than necessary, the point is, one does NOT need to drop one's elbow as he claims, and more importantly, if one DOES let it drop, it's of paramount importance to do so in the right order - or else one will be slower instead of faster. It's not the execution I find questionable at all, it's his explanation that won't do, that's all. Having said that, I greatly respect the man.

[Seracues]

@LeonFleisherFan the reason he says the dropping your elbow is to keep a clean straight follow threw.

[LeonFleisherFan]

@Seracues I hear what he says, and I highly respect the man and his abilities. The point is that dropping one's elbow will NOT increase straightness in one's follow-through - the more limbs one moves, the less accurate the hit. The lower arm alone, if the moment of impact (of cue tip and ball) is when it traverses its relatively lowest (loosely hanging) position, performs a perfect pendulum motion = perfect accuracy provided one does NOT use/move one's wrist nor grab/grip the cue.

[LeonFleisherFan]

What he really does, in detail, is this:

1. He's aiming too low.

2. He's lifting his elbow during his back swing.

3. He lets his elbow drop during his stroke.

4. He ends up hitting the cue ball fractionally higher than aimed (part 2 more than compensates for part 3).

None of this has much to do with his explanation, except that a good follow-through helps, no disagreement there, and I won't deny dropping one's elbow is natural (keeps one from hitting oneself at the end of the stroke).

[BilliardInstruction]

The Latissimus dorsi muscle is contracted to set the elbow. During the stroke the antagonist, (deltoid and trapezius) have a tendency to contract causing scapular depression - rotating shoulder. If all muscle fibers contract simultaneously, (Massey Power) the deltoid becomes the prime mover of the arm along the frontal plane. If the lats maintain contraction, the elbow remains locked and all forward stroke speed results from gravity and bicep contraction (Oyster Power).

[LeonFleisherFan]

In other words, one would have to do Latissimus Dorsi exercises since pool playing alone won't suffice? Hmm...

[BilliardInstruction]

Yes, I spend 2 hours per day in the gym: there are many weight training exercises that target the latissimus dorsi muscle. The Compound Bent Over Row will give you the best results in stabilizing the humerus bone during the stroke.

[LeonFleisherFan]

2 hours per day at the gym? Cool! Sure wish I had the time...

[zzzfore]

A good way for a beginner to ruin his game is to focus on shots like this. Learn the basics of hitting the balls at pocket speed, keeping an angle, and playing safe and you'll win a lot more. Mike has one of the most powerful strokes I've ever seen--even among professionals. That is why he is such a great trick shot artist.

[devindrabhagwandin]

I wish I had such a powerful stroke.

[mattlinkpool87]

Hes using an ultra flexable cue shaft. The actuallity of you making that shot is very unlikely. I would recommend making the 4 then snookering the 5.

[Quatsch83]

No...it's just a regular shaft. The bend is normal...

[magyarkishlarn]

wouldn't it have jumped when you hit it that low?

[koyaainoregon]

wow all i gotta say is wow. you have to drop the elbow. thats gonna be my motto.

[jannboy326]

holy crap! nice ass shot! risky ass shot! id rather pocket the 4 and play safety on the 5.. sweet draw shot though! freakin surprised me!