Commissioning a symphony in C, CAKE

[supperhey]

In C, why not C++ huh?

[versedaaron]

@supperhey in that case why not Java or Assembly?

[gossi8086]

R.I.P. Dennis Ritchie, the greatest of all C symphony commissioners

[MusicPhene17]

My fav Cake song!!

[triberocker]

wow that melodica riff with the bass line thrummin at 0:33 and 1:17 never ceases to initiate a head shake

[thediaryofjane21]

@triberocker definatly not a melodica

[XarBiogeek]

3 people are seldom breathing life, but mostly death.

[MrPhilippguydude]

Blaring this down the street is epic. Especially when all the "Hip Fly Boys" look at me like.. Wah?

[ClosestToTheSun]

Oh God the internet has become overrun with people who care just a little too much.

CAKE is good music, Bach is good music, good music is good music but better music is better. We get it.

[Phester11]

how can Cake be considered alternative, if you want Cake, there is no alternative. Woot!

[rbtu42]

FUCK SONY MUSIC!!!

[MandibleMuge]

"Than acting pompous and demanding attention does. And yes, Subjectivity has a lot to do with it we can never succeed in proving any form of music to be Kitsch, or any form of music to be superior. To try to do so is silly. Certain songs mean..."

That should be in there after the third comment down. Whoops-a-doodle.

[MandibleMuge]

@saladshootavvv Well, someone's a little obsessive. Nah, Youtube has a short comment limit, I get it. I'll have to use multiple comments now too! Look, when I say "Your preferred music" I'm not saying any one form of music. But what you are referring to as "Fine art" and what you refer to as "not fine art", are clearly types of music you prefer to other types, because they are "fine art".

Speaking of which, how ignorant can you get? Do you even know what "Fine art" means? Do you think

[MandibleMuge]

it means "Art that is fancy and old"? Because that is how you are acting. Fine Art is something designed to be enjoyed aesthetically rather than used for something practical. People generally just call it "Art". Art and Fine Art are the same thing. All music fits that description. So stop mis-using words and terms. There is no difference between, for example, synth-pop and classical. Both fit the description of Fine Art. Sorry to burst your bubble.

[MandibleMuge]

And by the by, I haven't seen Bill and Ted, or whatever... But I saw Citizen Kane, twice, and oh my god snore. Sure, I get it, I see what it is trying to say, but it was a poorly executed film. Now, there is a certain shitty comedy film by Ricky Gervais that has affected me more than most other films. Same with "Being John Malkovich" which, to me, is the best Love story ever written. Was it intended as such? No. Listen bud, saying something important with something simple takes much more skill

[certaintythrudoubt]

Symphonies are 90% filler anyway.

[saladshootavvv]

@certaintythrudoubt Cool. I'm glad you know what you're talking about........fucking idiot

[certaintythrudoubt]

@saladshootavvv You know it's true. They're way too long and most of it is not interesting at all. You could condense most of them to a few minutes by taking out all the boring parts.

[saladshootavvv]

@certaintythrudoubt Wow. Just fucking wow. Point out what measures of Beethoven's Symphony No. 5 or 9 would be better if you cut them out. You can't. You won't. You don't even understand what's going on musically. Seriously, I'm not Leonard Bernstein and I dont feel like giving you a crash course in music. Just accept that you are an idiot and stfu. BUT if you do reply u better fucking answer my question about cutting measures out. Good luck you arrogant douche

[certaintythrudoubt]

@saladshootavvv Well the 9th symphony has a pretty cool tune that comes up all the time. You could make a refrain out of that. All the softer parts in between are useless...why should I listen to MINUTES of boring music just for the refrain to come up again? Maybe you could put normal singing there. The singing that exists doesn't make sense so it should go. It only plays at the end, the words don't mean anything and it sounds like opera. Wtf? If you change it like that it would be a nice song.

[saladshootavvv]

@certaintythrudoubt I posted your post on several classical message boards. Everyone from conductors, composers, performers, and theorist are literally awe-struck and scared at how uneducated and stupid you are. I really don't even know where to begin with your level of stupidity. Not only are you stupid, you are arrogant about it. Start at Leonard Bernstein's young persons concerts. You are probably the worst idiot I've ever encountered on the internet. You need to start from the beginning.

[certaintythrudoubt]

@saladshootavvv I can't believe you took my comment about turning Beethoven into a pop song seriously, but I'm glad you did and I'm glad it made you angry because you sound like a terrible person.

[saladshootavvv]

@certaintythrudoubt Yeah, someone who is actually passionate about something is really the bottom of the heap.

[albacc54]

In point of fact, I haven't heard that Berio. Only his "Homage to [James] Joyce" & his "Visage" I own & use to play all the time. But I like this song & so does my brother who studies violin & pre-med at U Chicago. But he seems to prefer the one about writing ("Shadow Stabbing") & I this one when I am the poet & he the composer. People sure is funny.

As to the argument you make, Nietzsche has a passage in his Gay Science.

Book 2, Passage 77

[saladshootavvv]

@albacc54 I never read that one. Could you please make an actual point from your own mind instead of just flippantly throwing me someones passage from a book?

[albacc54]

@saladshootavvv

You are sitting there thinking your thoughts.

They are not about what is but what is not.

You are sitting there breathing in your breath.

You are seldom breathing life but mostly death.

[saladshootavvv]

@albacc54 Nice cop out with another non-response. Is that supposed to be deep and profound or something? Bad poetry is bad

[chillriffer]

@saladshootavvv well the lyrics are from the song...and they are actually relevant. he is is insulting your attitude, but you might not get it.

[saladshootavvv]

@chillriffer Not only are the lyrics not relevant at all, it sounds like bad high school poetry. I know what he was trying to do, but those lyrics suck and that's not my "attitude" at all. Explain to me how they are relevant. Actually, don't. You guys are tards

[MandibleMuge]

@saladshootavvv It's just a fucking song. There's nothing more juvenile about trying to squeeze profundity out of everything like blood from a fucking song. Just accept it for what it is - A catchy song, enjoyed by many. Not you, apparently. But that's fine.

[saladshootavvv]

@MandibleMuge Of course it's just a trivial song, that's the problem. That's all people have now-a-days. The art of music is dying. Young people are more musically illiterate than they have been since....well...god only knows. Maybe the Medieval era.

[MandibleMuge]

@saladshootavvv And what gives you the right to define musical literacy? I believe you mean young people (nice generalization by the by) are literate in forms of music you do not approve of. You don't get to declare something sacred. I enjoy Classical music, Jazz, Synth, Pop, Rock, but no one form is superior. People appreciate music just as much now as ever, the music has just changed, as it always has, throughout history. And keep in mind, sometimes simplicity is not trivial. Brevity is wit.

[saladshootavvv]

@MandibleMuge Music illiteracy is defined by not knowing music history, how to understand form, etc. These people you are defending couldn't tell you the difference between Schoenberg and Bach. Not to freakin mention, they know nothing of their own musical tastes aka popular music. Do you really thing they know Duke Ellington, Coltrane, and Parker? What about Robert Johnson? They don't. Don't kid yourself. And btw, I listen to more types of music than you can even imagine, so don't lecture me.

[MandibleMuge]

@saladshootavvv I really don't care how many types of music you listen to, that's irrelevant.

And I never said literacy is to do with history, but it's also nothing to do with knowing about certain musicians. Who cares? Maybe they have no idea who Schoenberg and Bach are, so? It's not in their interests. Does it matter? Do you know the difference between Ahern and Cowen? No? Then I guess you aren't into Irish Politics. Does that mean you are ignorant to ALL politics? No. Of course not.

[saladshootavvv]

@MandibleMuge "I really don't care how many types of music you listen to, that's irrelevant." I don't either, you're the one that brought it up as to make a point and say that you're opened minded and I'm not. "It's not in their interests. Does it matter?" FUCK YES IT MATTERS! That's the MAIN problem. This is why Kinkade is a household name instead of Monet. It's the degradation of culture. What you are saying is that an uninspired/uncreative persons artistic output should be taken seriously.

[MandibleMuge]

@saladshootavvv But there are plenty of modern types of music that are highly inspired and highly creative and that young people have an interest in, that are just as good as Bach or Shostakovich or any classical artist - Because it's subjective. Just because people don't like YOUR preferred music doesn't make them uncultured. And I named multiple types of music to say that all were equal, not to claim that quantity was relevant. You should really read carefully before replying.

[saladshootavvv]

@MandibleMuge "there are plenty of modern types of music that are highly inspired and highly creative and that young people have an interest in, that are just as good as Bach or Shostakovich or any classical artist" SHOW ME! I have yet to see anything as good as those. Not just on a technical level (that doesn't matter), but in artistic worth and quality. And don't give me this "subjective" bullshit. There is a fucking difference between Deviant Art and Rembrandt. Idiots might find worth in CONT

[MandibleMuge]

Things to me, significant things. Much more than a lot of other songs that people claim are superior. Does that not make those songs the better written ones? If they can affect me deeply? As far as I'm concerned, yes. So think of this; Music isn't being dumbed down, it's evolving. It's happened throughout history There's no way to stop it. If SOME of the music you like is being listened to less, well that's tragic. But don't try to degrade the music that is being born anew.

[Electrochoch]

@saladshootavvv Classical music is dead. Rock is dying, too. It's just progression. Get over it.

[wasabiii2006]

@Electrochoch not true, and if it were so it wouldn't be progression.

[phukifiy]

@Electrochoch psh they said metal/ rock was dying in the 70's with disco, and in the 80's with tipper gore and the "P.M.R.C.", and even with grundge, it's just unstoppable. Get over it!

[AUsernameFORU]

@Electrochoch Classical Music and Rock never dies. Good music is timeless.

[saladshootavvv]

@MandibleMuge Deviant art, but that doesn't make it fine art even worth mentioning in the same breathe. Music has been dumbed down to the point where it is mindless kitsch. And there's nothing wrong with kitsch, but art music is dying out because of that. I pop in some Dead Kennedy's and fun things like that, but it's not fine art. It's pop. There is not much inspired or creative about it. No new sound worlds, no new discoveries, no innovation. Pop is just audiated trends and styles. CONT

[saladshootavvv]

@MandibleMuge "Just because people don't like YOUR preferred music"....And this is why I keep getting pissed off. You keep straw-manning me. I don't have "a music". I listen to everything from balinese gamelan, to gagaku, to ligeti, to perotin, to eric dolphy, to black flag, to big L, and on and on and on. Even though I like almost everything under the sun I still can recognize the difference in artistic quality, achievement, and creativity between Bach's St. Matthew Passion and Nirvana. CONT

[saladshootavvv]

@MandibleMuge What's the difference between Citizen Kane and Bill and Ted's Excellent Adventure? That's the difference between Cake and Art music. Sure, Bill and Ted is a film, and film is art. Heck, I even like Bill and Ted. But it's not fucking fine art! We live in a culture where there is no real appreciation for the Citizen Kanes of music, instead all people know and listen to are a bunch of Bill and Ted's of music. Especially young people, specifically ages 0-35.

[Jbarnes45]

i prefer to think of it as a symphony in sea :)

[saladshootavvv]

I'd rather listen to an actual symphony than garbage pop-music that makes allusions to art that it could never even come close to being. In fact....goodbye, off to Stravinsky's Symphony in C!

[ianetch]

@saladshootavvv GO FUCK YOURSELF

[saladshootavvv]

@ianetch I did. It was excellent. In fact Stravinsky's Symphony in C was playing as I wanked it.

[ianetch]

@saladshootavvv haha :) i like classical as well, but cake is not garbage.

[albacc54]

@saladshootavvv

Ever heard of On First Looking into Chapman's Homer by that genius Keats?

Or that scene in Godard's My Life to Live where the heroine watches Carl Dreyer's Joan of Arc?

Or those paintings by Jasper Johns that have Picasso prints glued onto them?

[saladshootavvv]

@albacc54 Are you comparing Godard, Keats/Chapman, and Jasper Johns to fucking Cake?!?!?!? Cake is sterile mindless kitsch and those examples you brought up timeless works of fine art. Ever heard of Luciano Berio's Sinfonia? That's an actual homage. I doubt anyone that likes this song has even heard a symphony and actually enjoyed it.

[The2madre]

i like this song and the guitar solo is pretty cool:)

[fridayglamour]

You're sitting there thinking your thoughts

They are not about what is but what is not

You are sitting there breathing in your breath

You are seldom breathing life but mostly death"

[Quiverborn]

im coding in C while listening to this

[NitroBlastSnorter]

The cake is a lie.

[Yukyo8670]

I play this on bass, easy song, and then i learned Arco Arena specifically to follow this song like they did in the album, those two sound like they should always be played together.

[only1joe4life]

Is it ironic that this song is in D minor?

[ladkjad]

this song is underrated

[65sinned]

cake is good !

[12edDemon]

This song is excellent. One of my favorite by good ol Cake

[dfbhcf]

This is one of my favorite songs by this great band.

[DerOrk]

They know Austria but call Schwarenegger a German ô o

[golfballa406]

i love the way he sings the line "its warm and golden like an oven thats wide open"

great lyrics

[prinsesed1]

@golfballa406 I knoww, like I totally melt when he says that. My friends say I get into a like trance whenever I hear this song, I smile and stare into nowhere... they find it quite funny actuallyy. I also love "You enter the room with great caution, though no one in the hall is even watching" I loove how he says hall. lool

[annoyboy365]

Austria is where Motzart grew up. Then again he toured around alot.

[Sothiamient]

I'm pretty sure this song is referring to Beethoven's Symphony no. 1 in C Major, which was first performed in Vienna. Beautiful piece, it is.

[skywalkerNo93]

Indeed it is.

[fajwat]

@Sothiamient It's about banality and hubris. He's describing a lowest-common-denominator song, micromanaged and mindlessly easy to write. The nobleman even arrives late to his own premier, worried more about the appearances and status than the music. The music is described as wonderful beyond words because the nobleman is too stupid to know any better or care.

[Sothiamient]

@fajwat I agree with you on the nobleman's self-absorption; that much is apparent in the lyric. However, the lyric suggests the piece is stealing the spotlight from the nobleman's emergence. I feel the poetry reinforces the symphony's greatness, or at least its ability to transfix its audience. The Viennese noblemen were largely well-trained in music, so I find it difficult for the commissioner to not know any better; rather, it is more likely that he is suddenly made aware of his own vanity.

[averymaddox01]

i do believe i am detecting some sarcasm?

[PPowell0]

This was the first song I learned on bass guitar.

[megacopp]

Glorious song. My absolute favorite!!

[joyousdeath]

this songs the bomb!

[realoatesman]

Love it.

[Sarco275]

good song man

[m4lign4nt]

terrific song... i love jammin in the car with this blasting

[moogyx]

i always listen this song when i playing to homeworld cataclysm!

[BartlingIsMyName]

i dont know what it is about this song, but its just amazing!

[MajinSock]

The little filly refrain thing from 0:35 - 0:46 rules.

[luchitomix10]

great song ....ummm cake i heard many times here in Peru ...i like that i would like to hear cake alive in Lima........

[Oberkommando03]

This song is both beautifil and badass!

[Ninjujitsu]

I am quite fond of the bass and guitar in this song.

[PuddlesMD69]

Cake do alot of songs in G. Must suite his voice. By the way Cake F`in Rocks!!

[Fvgh12345]

hell yes i want to fuck someone

[neilhatesyou]

I just realized how fun this song would be on Rock Band. Rock Band needs some Cake!

[desowell]

rock band and guitar hero exploited others creativity for a buck

[mrfrosty8172]

@desowell if you understood how much time and work goes into animation you would understand that it is no picnic

yea there was alot of crap that they pulled

but those artists got paid for it, or at least their publishers did

[scimitar91]

the sheet music shown is in G

?

[bbbigbossbb]

Pwned.

[jatsar]

the guitar work on these tunes is so overlooked...thanks for the post

[derekkj]

My favourite CAKE song.

[mjane117]

me too. my absolute favorite.

[highschoolgal63]

i cant stop watching this!

[sunnyxxdelight]

how old is this band

[SenorSlopez]

They were formed in the early 90s.

[acefilms28]

cake has a lot of songs that would be good at the end of a movie

[SenorSlopez]

Yeah, I always find myself thinking that! Especially the song "End of the Movie", lol.

Also, some of their songs would be good for movie trailers and introductions. Or maybe commercials.

[ThatWhiteGuy1]

I believe the song "Love You Madly" was used at the beginning of "Forgetting Sarah Marshal"

[SenorSlopez]

That's a good song! I never saw that movie, but whenever I hear Cake songs in places other than my headphones, I flip out and start saying to my friends, "CAKE!!"

I wonder who gave a thumbs down to my previous comment...?

[BeccariaOwnz]

Slopez go make your stupid david bowie RPG

[SenorSlopez]

Who's this!?

[PuddlesMD69]

I heard Perhaps by cake in some movie.

[Rinara657]

Ahh, Cake. Life wouldn't be the same without them. Great stuff, every time.

[tamorapiercefan]

The singer's voice gets pretty monotonous sometimes, bu it's a good song.

[ray2393m]

Teh cake =)

[thestrokesman7]

Is this song a reference to Beethoven or is it just another metaphor for some political model or the government?

[swiz0r]

So, I mean, Haydn was Austrian and eventually ended up composing for the Esterhazy court, also Austrian. I can't think of any of his noteworthy symphonies in C, but I am not an expert on Haydn.

Haydn taught Beethoven a thing or two, but I am not sure that any of his symphonies were commissioned... at least not the two that are in C.

Hmm.

This song right here is in C though, if that means anything.

[Draydenstache101]

I don't really think it is a reference to anyone or a political statement (besides maybe a reference to taking money from the peasants). It's Cake, they're good, but not as political as The Strokes. Its just a musical joke because c symphonies are kind of odd sounding.

[imcjbeyotch]

Haha, ya know, i do think your right :). It describes the usually odd sounding symphony in C as the most incredible masterpeice

[Melonsquare]

I think this song is about being depressed. And unless you've been depressed, you don't really get it.

[SenorSlopez]

I'm pretty sure it's about the excesses of being rich (such as the part about "money you squeeze from the peasants" and all the imagery about luxurious lifestyles).

[Xenophope]

great song

[Xenophope]

great song...!!!!!

[odinod1990]

Thank you for this.

Cake is delicious.

[RachaelJessicaShelby]

I love this song

[Reiface]

New favourite song. I love Cake. :D

[paladores]

The music at about 1:00 is in D :/

[over18bword1]

the tastiest solo EVER!!

[imjustjustkidding]

Sweet Video!

I LOVE CAKE

[4watchintube]

MAN - just wanted to jump on and get a little Cake fix - 10 or 11 vids later and checking out the links to their myspace Cake home page and youtube channel - now i am way behind at work - AARRRGGGHHHH - DAMN YOU CAKE!!!! lol It is all your fault - your music is addicting!!!

[TheIrishVampire12]

Check out the video response! It's my sister's band covering this song! The guitar solo is done on an electric 5-string violin which is totally BA and you know it!

[reidx]

jesus the singer is nasal

[dmaassizzle]

awesome song

[brendr]

It would be funny if it was no in the key C.

[paulthekind]

My beloved GF first played this for me....awesome!!

[h78meiri]

Israelies enjoy cake too!!!

good bass music

[PrincessZelda05]

this is like the best song that cake has! i love it!

[edwardnorton00]

there is no best because they all kick ass

[Greece11iem]

cool song

[moogyx]

my favorite song of cake, i love the guitar solo!

[SarhaFunk]

awesome

[mangachix]

i love this song.

[spoken812]

This song defies all earthly description.

[MarineSquall]

lol

[GratefulGroover]

every man owes Cake a thank you for creating music that compels every woman on this planet to shake their booties.

[Peachygirl]

nyahahahhaha

[jimmi099]

comfort eagle= best fucking album ever

[ww3gecko]

cake is what i listen to when chillin with my friends. Sometimes ,tal just doesnt make you happy and relaxed, thand then there was ake!

[calvinandhobbes2004]

too true :D

[loveable300]

jenny loves this song so much!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[loveable300]

jenny loves this song so much!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[maxsullivan69]

i love this song so much three...hahahaha

[DramaNerd4eva]

I love this song so much too!

[TINSELG101]

i love this song so much!!!

[kmophanourtney]

this is a great song

i love it and i want to have it

[Anarakaras]

i love this song, i enjoy the use of multiple sounds that cake shows a mastery over, absolutely awsome bans. lyrics are always good as well

[centrifuge1789]

the best song

thanks for uploading!

[zahowy]

CAKE F4R!~!!~!

[jogga123]

The only word for this song is EPIC.

[GermanPrincess13]

great!

[cittiekatty]

This song is always stuck in my head. I agree with lilteddymouse, it is a very good song. The video is really cool. Cake rulez!!!! =D

[pechmarie1504]

This is love!

[7Envy7]

Awesomeness

[Clemens93]

i really like this song, but the clip is weirdxD

[SupahSmashh]

This is one of my favorite Cake songs ever! :D <3 Cake

[lilteddymouse]

I always have this song stuck in my head! Good thing it's a good song!

[TAdeuS78]

this song i loved is my favorite ,make me remenber my infance