Saying that rape pornography doesn't encourage rape is like saying child pornography doesn't encourage child molestation. Bottom line, what is a video game? Entertainment. And since when is it appropriate entertainment to simulate raping underage girls and forcing them to get abortions? If games like this don't encourage rape, they encourage APATHY and INDIFFERENCE to rape and it's victims by making rape a comfortable notion. The media does affect the way we think. That's a fact!
Fine, I can do that. Child pornography does not encourage child molestation. If you beg to differ, you should be the one providing evidence, since you are arguing against the nill hypothesis.
You're entire argument can be broken down to the same crap people have about violent videogames. have you ever considered that instead of encouraging this behavior, the simulation, the video game, actually prevents people from taken real action?
Personally, I can imagine myself being very pissed and taking it out on a videogame if I didn't have a punching bag. If people have their way in videogames without the risk of being arrested and without having to actually harm another human being, I think that's a big motivation not to go out and do the things you can do in videogames.
@ColibriAnna08 Comfortable? No game is going to make people comfortable with rape. If you are uncomfortable with rape before you played this game, I doubt a videogame will have you rethink your position and go "well, that videogame changed my life, gonna go out and rape someone 'cause that's ok with me now". Rape in a videogame is not real life and most people are responsible enough to handle the difference. Drop this 'holier than thou'-shit while you are at it.
You really don't understand sociology and so you have no authority to speak on it. Video games in which you act out sex crimes normalizes it - at least subconsciously. No one is saying that this causes people to actually rape, but it does cause APATHY TOWARDS RAPE. Know what that word means? Look it up. In Japanese culture, where rape pornography is greatly common, there is little sympathy for rape victims.
You approach me with that attitude, and call ME holier than thou? Fuck off.
First of all, look up sociology because if you are trying to discuss anything it's psychology. Second, just stop capitalizing entire words, it's completely obnoxious and serves no purpose.
"Look it up".
I don't know if you know how providing evidence works, you have to actually link me to evidence, not tell me to find out for myself. If you aren't willing or able to provide evidence, don't make outrageous claims.
Yea, I don't know if you ever been to a porn site, but there are plenty of Western porn sites which show rape pornography and none of that animated stuff...
Same bullshit about violent videogames desensitizing people to violence. No study has ever succeed in providing evidence form this claim, none. Maybe you assume (from personal experience perhaps) people can't tell the difference between reality and fiction. Most people can.
If you can't handle being a sensible human being and distinguishing fiction from reality, than don't watch/read/listen to fiction. You suffer from the same syndrome as the anti drugs-lobby, the pro-lifers, the anti-euthanasia crowd etc. You can't handle it, so you think nobody should have access to it, because as we all know, the world has to be centered around your prude will, in disregard of human and civil rights.
You know what all this is? Just your opinion. It is an undeniable fact that the media has a tremendous impact on how we think and perceive the world. Exposure to media violence and media sexual violence desensitizes one to the reality of the situation. This isn't about me, no matter how desperately you want to make me out to be a narcissist.
"in disregard of human and civil rights." And what of the rights of rape victims to not have their trauma used as entertainment? Thought so, hypocrite
If it's not your opinion, then prove anything you say. Anyone who has studied psychology or marketing know the power of the media to affect the way we think. Because you're ignorant of that doesn't mean I am wrong.
You also might need to learn what a study really is. Because there are no study's proving this claim does not mean it is not true. Studies are not sufficient to study long-term affects which the media has. They only study abrupt correlations. Take a frickin' psychology class!
I'm arguing the negative, how the hell do you expect me to prove a negative? You take a class on scientific methodology ffs, the burden of proof is on you!
" Do you really think enjoying the thought of and fantasizing about raping a child is okay, functional, and no the least bit harmful?" It's disgusting, but what are you going to do, implement thought crime?
(cont.) "Show me one study, just one, that proves this." I'll show you more than one, and I'll send it in a message to you.
What makes you so delusional is that you believe that child pornography prevents child molestation. That's fucking hilarious. All it does is improve it. Do you really think enjoying the thought of and fantasizing about raping a child is okay, functional, and no the least bit harmful? You're full of shit.
""in disregard of human and civil rights." And what of the rights of rape victims to not have their trauma used as entertainment? Thought so, hypocrite"
You don't have the right not to be exposed to media, sorry. That's not a human right, not a civic right. You know why? because you have the ability to turn around, no one forces you to watch/play games.
(cont.) According to you, a person has the right to play a video game in which you rape children (you did know the girls in this game are children?) more than a rape or child molestation victim has the right to *NOT* have their experiences and trauma normalized as nothing more than casual entertainment. If I'm wrong, then prove it. Amidst your character assassination against me, you have not once proven how I'm wrong about anything. Get to it.
This is typical of people who feel the world needs to be centered around their feelings, feeling that people should be entitled to the right not to be exposed to what they conceive of as disgusting (and with they, I mean people like you). You get the same bullshit from the anti-violent-movies lobby, the anti-gay lobby, the anti-pornography lobby etc.
I'm sorry, but you don't have the right not to be exposed to media, you simply don't.
(cont.2) What's typical is people like you who think that because you don't personally find something disgusting, then it's okay. This isn't about me or what I feel. This is about the affect of sexual violence in the media.
It's sad the kind of world we live. People like you will tolerate anything BUT the people who stand up for what's right. "Oh, never mind there is a video game in which you rape children, but how dare anyone say anything about it! What jerks!" The human race is doomed.
I never said it's ok to rape anyone. I said i'm not about to ban rape pornography, the same reason we don't ban violent video games. I don't enforce my distaste for victim less crimes, such as watching pornography or playing a game, on other people, unlike you. Rape is a crime, watching simulated rape is not.
@SSTTEEAALLTTHH We ban child pornography - even it is animation and no real children are involved. Then why would we allow rape pornography? I just believe in being consistent with your principles. If you believe that child fantasy leads to child molestation, then the same can be said that fantasizing about rape leads to actually committing it. After all, men don't just wake up rapists. It always starts as a fetish or fantasy. Rape pornography encourages this. Is that so hard to believe?
Your WebMD study proves nothing but the problem of performing concentration-requiring tasks of children with DBD. Apart from being extremely short and undetailed, I see no methodology. How did they establish those kids played violent videogames, how big was the test, what was considered violent? They didn’t even establish violent behavior, just thoughts ,
I can only conclude one of two things: you didn't have the patience to fully read the studies I gave, or you did read them and don't like being proved wrong, so you bullshit your way out of it. This is exactly why I gave you more than one. I knew you'd find some reason to weasel your way out of being given exactly what you asked for. I suggest you read it again before you embarrass yourself. Don't ask me for proof if you don't want it.
I read your full study and explained carefully why it was wrong. Sorry, but unlike you, I adhere to the scientific method. I don't just read an abstract and say "I'll go with it". If you think that's weaseling out, you'd make a very poor scientist. Yet again, you already demonstrated you were clueless on methodology when you asked me to prove a negative. So it's no wonder that statistics and correlation vs. causation etc. are also strange to you.
Do you even know what the scientific method is? That does not include "doubting something just because I disagree with it". The scientific method does not involve doubting or disproving established theories. These are multiple studies on the same subject with the same conclusion. If I gave you the most pristine, thought-provoking study you would find some way to discredit because that's easier than admitting you could be wrong.
Oh, and by the way, if you're going to use ad homieums on me then keep your fucking complaints about my "straw-man" arguments to yourself. I know what correlation and causation is. Causation was proven within two of those studies, but I doubted you had the patience to read that far. Here you are professing yourself an intellect on matters of science ON YOUTUBE! That's laughable and pathetic at best. Stop sniffing your own farts, and keep your self-glamorization to a minimum.
if the EEG’s (which I assumed they used, because this article leave a lot to be assumed) were in fact accurate in demonstrating regions of violence-functions alone. Provide a peer-review or nothing. An article that short is bound to be worthless.
Regarding your second study, Roadrunner violent? That pretty nullifies this study to people simply exposed to media. Roadrunner is about as violent as Bugs Bunny. If you consider RoadRunner violent for kids, you should ban tv all together. If something explodes, people’s hair gets blown backwards and their face is black in these cartoons.
The inherent problem with this type of research is that it makes no distinction between people who watch violence because they are violent and people who are violent, supposedly because they watch violence, which is a flaw that has been addressed often.
The problem with your third article are quotes like this “Many studies have also examined the immediate effect of media violence on aggressive thoughts or emotions (Rule & Ferguson, 1986), which have been shown to increase the risk of aggressive behavior (Dodge & Frame, 1982; Huesmann & Guerra, 1997).”
Basic methodology: you can not use 2 different studies to merge one statistic. If they want to prove this claim, they have to make one study, not simple link conclusions of small studies done on separate populations.
In the end, you are one egotistical prick to think you, a mere Youtube troll, knows better than all of the psychologist and researchers in these studies. Don't expect me to take you at face-value over them. They know far better than you. At this point, you're just coming off as a nauseating know-it-all. If you must be so stubborn, I will provide you with even more studies. There are plenty, so don't get too comfortable yet.
No, being a psychologist and having made a lousy study doesn't make you better. You are wrong yet again. Scientific methodology demands we question researchers and there studies and try to find errors, which in your studies were blatantly obvious to any scientist. You would have it that I can just claim full knowledge on Biomedical Sciences, just because I have a degree and wrote an article, regardless of how lousy it may be?
Look, you're one of those egotistical assholes who will find some reason to deny or discredit anything I give you simply because it does not comply to your bias and agenda. Questioning researchers and studies in one thing. Completely denying there is any truth in them at all is another. What authority do have to do that? I will gladly provide you even more if you're so fucking delusional about it. There are massive amounts of studies that have the same exact conclusion.
"It always starts as a fetish or fantasy. Rape pornography encourages this. Is that so hard to believe?"
Not harder to believe than the catharsis theory, for which exists just about as much evidence: conclusively none.
I fantasized I was in the Army as a kid, I don't go around blowing people up. people who rape will probably fantasize about it. That does not mean that fantasizing about rape actually causes rape. that is the other way around and a causation that is unfounded.
So you believe the rapists have no desire to rape a woman? You believe that they are not sexually aroused by rape or violence? Explain to me exactly how that convoluted bullshit works, mister. Childhood dreams are not the same as sexual fantasy in adults. Your analogy is worthless. You expect me to agree that a man will rape a woman even though he is not sexually aroused by violence or rape? If he didn't find it appealing, he wouldn't do it. Fact!
"So you believe the rapists have no desire to rape a woman? "
You call me a troll? I already explained this. I quote myself. "People who rape will probably fantasize about it. That does not mean that fantasizing about rape actually causes rape." Can't you see how you can't just turn that statement around and still expect it to be the unfounded truth? Learn the difference between correlation and causation and reverse causation. Go get a class in science, please.
There is no "probably" about it. A man doesn't look at a woman and decide to rape her without *ANY* previous thought or fantasy about rape. Again, I'm going to have to find a way to say this in other terms, since you're so stubborn about it.
The idea that fantasy doesn't lead to acting out that fantasy is nonsense. Does fantasizing about a woman you like not lead to sleeping with her? Is there no correlation?
That's your logic in a nut shell. This is *NOT* correlation. You get a science class!
"You believe that they are not sexually aroused by rape or violence?"
I think they are, but I don't see what you imply by that.
"You expect me to agree that a man will rape a woman even though he is not sexually aroused by violence or rape?"
I don't expect your highly dogmatic control-freak personality to agree with anything. Again, I'm not even going to answer this question. Stop making up straw men. Learn the fucking difference between correlation and (reverse) causation.
Let me try to get this through your thick skull since you're too much of a whore for conflict to understand. Is there any case of a rapist you know of in which the rapist was not aroused by rape? No. Therefore, fantasy and rape fetish is a cause of rape. Saying it's not is as absurd as saying child fantasy and fetish is not a cause of child molestation. I fucking dare you prove that last statement wrong.
"If he didn't find it appealing, he wouldn't do it. Fact!"
Ignoring for a minute that plenty of people, if not the majority, maybe do find it appealing but don't do it either! The vast majority of people now the difference between fiction and reality and don't act upon primal desires like a troglodyte!
I love how this is all about women by the way, regardless of the fact that men can be raped too, do you happen to be a feminist?
if rapist or child molesters see the public majority or minority totally ignoring to be decent human beings, then it only spoon feeds their sick minded fantasies that are already deeply rooted in sick minded ideaologies.
if you support the "extra push" , you need serious help.
if a rapist sees it, they want it
and it doesn't matter if the urge is derived by real life boundaries and/or a virtual fetish defined immorally wrong by the majority or minority
You know what I think the majority in America has ignored for far too long? Women's clothing. Obviously, if a rapist sees a woman, scantily clad, he's going to want to rape her. Whether he does or not is not the issue. The issue is temptation. If we take away the temptation, the problem will go away, right? So, let's vote: who wants women to be completely covered, head to toe, to keep rapists from wanting to rape them? {Satire is a beautiful animal :)}
Saying that rape pornography doesn't encourage rape is like saying child pornography doesn't encourage child molestation. Bottom line, what is a video game? Entertainment. And since when is it appropriate entertainment to simulate raping underage girls and forcing them to get abortions? If games like this don't encourage rape, they encourage APATHY and INDIFFERENCE to rape and it's victims by making rape a comfortable notion. The media does affect the way we think. That's a fact!
ColibriAnna08 7 months ago
@ColibriAnna08
Fine, I can do that. Child pornography does not encourage child molestation. If you beg to differ, you should be the one providing evidence, since you are arguing against the nill hypothesis.
You're entire argument can be broken down to the same crap people have about violent videogames. have you ever considered that instead of encouraging this behavior, the simulation, the video game, actually prevents people from taken real action?
SSTTEEAALLTTHH 5 months ago
@ColibriAnna08
Personally, I can imagine myself being very pissed and taking it out on a videogame if I didn't have a punching bag. If people have their way in videogames without the risk of being arrested and without having to actually harm another human being, I think that's a big motivation not to go out and do the things you can do in videogames.
SSTTEEAALLTTHH 5 months ago
@ColibriAnna08
" If games like this don't encourage rape, they encourage APATHY and INDIFFERENCE to rape and it's victims by making rape a comfortable notion."
No they don't, you stuck up twat. I wouldn't outlaw this video game and I'm a human rights activist. Are you calling me indifferent towards rape?
SSTTEEAALLTTHH 5 months ago
@ColibriAnna08 Comfortable? No game is going to make people comfortable with rape. If you are uncomfortable with rape before you played this game, I doubt a videogame will have you rethink your position and go "well, that videogame changed my life, gonna go out and rape someone 'cause that's ok with me now". Rape in a videogame is not real life and most people are responsible enough to handle the difference. Drop this 'holier than thou'-shit while you are at it.
SSTTEEAALLTTHH 5 months ago
You really don't understand sociology and so you have no authority to speak on it. Video games in which you act out sex crimes normalizes it - at least subconsciously. No one is saying that this causes people to actually rape, but it does cause APATHY TOWARDS RAPE. Know what that word means? Look it up. In Japanese culture, where rape pornography is greatly common, there is little sympathy for rape victims.
You approach me with that attitude, and call ME holier than thou? Fuck off.
ColibriAnna08 5 months ago
@ColibriAnna08
First of all, look up sociology because if you are trying to discuss anything it's psychology. Second, just stop capitalizing entire words, it's completely obnoxious and serves no purpose.
"Look it up".
I don't know if you know how providing evidence works, you have to actually link me to evidence, not tell me to find out for myself. If you aren't willing or able to provide evidence, don't make outrageous claims.
SSTTEEAALLTTHH 5 months ago
@ColibriAnna08
Yea, I don't know if you ever been to a porn site, but there are plenty of Western porn sites which show rape pornography and none of that animated stuff...
Same bullshit about violent videogames desensitizing people to violence. No study has ever succeed in providing evidence form this claim, none. Maybe you assume (from personal experience perhaps) people can't tell the difference between reality and fiction. Most people can.
Are you also going to ban rape in books in films?
SSTTEEAALLTTHH 5 months ago
@ColibriAnna08
If you can't handle being a sensible human being and distinguishing fiction from reality, than don't watch/read/listen to fiction. You suffer from the same syndrome as the anti drugs-lobby, the pro-lifers, the anti-euthanasia crowd etc. You can't handle it, so you think nobody should have access to it, because as we all know, the world has to be centered around your prude will, in disregard of human and civil rights.
SSTTEEAALLTTHH 5 months ago
You know what all this is? Just your opinion. It is an undeniable fact that the media has a tremendous impact on how we think and perceive the world. Exposure to media violence and media sexual violence desensitizes one to the reality of the situation. This isn't about me, no matter how desperately you want to make me out to be a narcissist.
"in disregard of human and civil rights." And what of the rights of rape victims to not have their trauma used as entertainment? Thought so, hypocrite
ColibriAnna08 5 months ago
@ColibriAnna08
"You know what all this is? Just your opinion."
No this is opinion : "Video games in which you act out sex crimes normalizes it - at least subconsciously"
This is a fact: "No study has ever succeed in providing evidence form this claim, none."
Learn the difference.
"Exposure to media violence and media sexual violence desensitizes one to the reality of the situation. "
Show me one study, just one, that proves this.
SSTTEEAALLTTHH 5 months ago
If it's not your opinion, then prove anything you say. Anyone who has studied psychology or marketing know the power of the media to affect the way we think. Because you're ignorant of that doesn't mean I am wrong.
You also might need to learn what a study really is. Because there are no study's proving this claim does not mean it is not true. Studies are not sufficient to study long-term affects which the media has. They only study abrupt correlations. Take a frickin' psychology class!
ColibriAnna08 5 months ago
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@ColibriAnna08
I'm arguing the negative, how the hell do you expect me to prove a negative? You take a class on scientific methodology ffs, the burden of proof is on you!
" Do you really think enjoying the thought of and fantasizing about raping a child is okay, functional, and no the least bit harmful?" It's disgusting, but what are you going to do, implement thought crime?
SSTTEEAALLTTHH 5 months ago
(cont.) "Show me one study, just one, that proves this." I'll show you more than one, and I'll send it in a message to you.
What makes you so delusional is that you believe that child pornography prevents child molestation. That's fucking hilarious. All it does is improve it. Do you really think enjoying the thought of and fantasizing about raping a child is okay, functional, and no the least bit harmful? You're full of shit.
ColibriAnna08 5 months ago
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@ColibriAnna08
""in disregard of human and civil rights." And what of the rights of rape victims to not have their trauma used as entertainment? Thought so, hypocrite"
You don't have the right not to be exposed to media, sorry. That's not a human right, not a civic right. You know why? because you have the ability to turn around, no one forces you to watch/play games.
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ColibriAnna08 5 months ago
(cont.) According to you, a person has the right to play a video game in which you rape children (you did know the girls in this game are children?) more than a rape or child molestation victim has the right to *NOT* have their experiences and trauma normalized as nothing more than casual entertainment. If I'm wrong, then prove it. Amidst your character assassination against me, you have not once proven how I'm wrong about anything. Get to it.
ColibriAnna08 5 months ago
@ColibriAnna08
"According to you, a person has the right to play a video game in which you rape children (you did know the girls in this game are children?)"
That's a fuck of a lot better than actually raping children or forcing children into real pornography, wouldn't you agree. It's anime!
SSTTEEAALLTTHH 5 months ago
@ColibriAnna08
This is typical of people who feel the world needs to be centered around their feelings, feeling that people should be entitled to the right not to be exposed to what they conceive of as disgusting (and with they, I mean people like you). You get the same bullshit from the anti-violent-movies lobby, the anti-gay lobby, the anti-pornography lobby etc.
I'm sorry, but you don't have the right not to be exposed to media, you simply don't.
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ColibriAnna08 5 months ago
(cont.2) What's typical is people like you who think that because you don't personally find something disgusting, then it's okay. This isn't about me or what I feel. This is about the affect of sexual violence in the media.
It's sad the kind of world we live. People like you will tolerate anything BUT the people who stand up for what's right. "Oh, never mind there is a video game in which you rape children, but how dare anyone say anything about it! What jerks!" The human race is doomed.
ColibriAnna08 5 months ago
@ColibriAnna08
I never said it's ok to rape anyone. I said i'm not about to ban rape pornography, the same reason we don't ban violent video games. I don't enforce my distaste for victim less crimes, such as watching pornography or playing a game, on other people, unlike you. Rape is a crime, watching simulated rape is not.
SSTTEEAALLTTHH 5 months ago
@SSTTEEAALLTTHH We ban child pornography - even it is animation and no real children are involved. Then why would we allow rape pornography? I just believe in being consistent with your principles. If you believe that child fantasy leads to child molestation, then the same can be said that fantasizing about rape leads to actually committing it. After all, men don't just wake up rapists. It always starts as a fetish or fantasy. Rape pornography encourages this. Is that so hard to believe?
ColibriAnna08 5 months ago
@ColibriAnna08
Your WebMD study proves nothing but the problem of performing concentration-requiring tasks of children with DBD. Apart from being extremely short and undetailed, I see no methodology. How did they establish those kids played violent videogames, how big was the test, what was considered violent? They didn’t even establish violent behavior, just thoughts ,
SSTTEEAALLTTHH 5 months ago
I can only conclude one of two things: you didn't have the patience to fully read the studies I gave, or you did read them and don't like being proved wrong, so you bullshit your way out of it. This is exactly why I gave you more than one. I knew you'd find some reason to weasel your way out of being given exactly what you asked for. I suggest you read it again before you embarrass yourself. Don't ask me for proof if you don't want it.
ColibriAnna08 5 months ago
@ColibriAnna08
I read your full study and explained carefully why it was wrong. Sorry, but unlike you, I adhere to the scientific method. I don't just read an abstract and say "I'll go with it". If you think that's weaseling out, you'd make a very poor scientist. Yet again, you already demonstrated you were clueless on methodology when you asked me to prove a negative. So it's no wonder that statistics and correlation vs. causation etc. are also strange to you.
SSTTEEAALLTTHH 5 months ago
Do you even know what the scientific method is? That does not include "doubting something just because I disagree with it". The scientific method does not involve doubting or disproving established theories. These are multiple studies on the same subject with the same conclusion. If I gave you the most pristine, thought-provoking study you would find some way to discredit because that's easier than admitting you could be wrong.
ColibriAnna08 5 months ago
Oh, and by the way, if you're going to use ad homieums on me then keep your fucking complaints about my "straw-man" arguments to yourself. I know what correlation and causation is. Causation was proven within two of those studies, but I doubted you had the patience to read that far. Here you are professing yourself an intellect on matters of science ON YOUTUBE! That's laughable and pathetic at best. Stop sniffing your own farts, and keep your self-glamorization to a minimum.
ColibriAnna08 5 months ago
@ColibriAnna08
if the EEG’s (which I assumed they used, because this article leave a lot to be assumed) were in fact accurate in demonstrating regions of violence-functions alone. Provide a peer-review or nothing. An article that short is bound to be worthless.
SSTTEEAALLTTHH 5 months ago
@ColibriAnna08
Regarding your second study, Roadrunner violent? That pretty nullifies this study to people simply exposed to media. Roadrunner is about as violent as Bugs Bunny. If you consider RoadRunner violent for kids, you should ban tv all together. If something explodes, people’s hair gets blown backwards and their face is black in these cartoons.
SSTTEEAALLTTHH 5 months ago
@ColibriAnna08
The inherent problem with this type of research is that it makes no distinction between people who watch violence because they are violent and people who are violent, supposedly because they watch violence, which is a flaw that has been addressed often.
SSTTEEAALLTTHH 5 months ago
@ColibriAnna08
The problem with your third article are quotes like this “Many studies have also examined the immediate effect of media violence on aggressive thoughts or emotions (Rule & Ferguson, 1986), which have been shown to increase the risk of aggressive behavior (Dodge & Frame, 1982; Huesmann & Guerra, 1997).”
SSTTEEAALLTTHH 5 months ago
@ColibriAnna08
Basic methodology: you can not use 2 different studies to merge one statistic. If they want to prove this claim, they have to make one study, not simple link conclusions of small studies done on separate populations.
SSTTEEAALLTTHH 5 months ago
In the end, you are one egotistical prick to think you, a mere Youtube troll, knows better than all of the psychologist and researchers in these studies. Don't expect me to take you at face-value over them. They know far better than you. At this point, you're just coming off as a nauseating know-it-all. If you must be so stubborn, I will provide you with even more studies. There are plenty, so don't get too comfortable yet.
ColibriAnna08 5 months ago
@ColibriAnna08
No, being a psychologist and having made a lousy study doesn't make you better. You are wrong yet again. Scientific methodology demands we question researchers and there studies and try to find errors, which in your studies were blatantly obvious to any scientist. You would have it that I can just claim full knowledge on Biomedical Sciences, just because I have a degree and wrote an article, regardless of how lousy it may be?
SSTTEEAALLTTHH 5 months ago
Look, you're one of those egotistical assholes who will find some reason to deny or discredit anything I give you simply because it does not comply to your bias and agenda. Questioning researchers and studies in one thing. Completely denying there is any truth in them at all is another. What authority do have to do that? I will gladly provide you even more if you're so fucking delusional about it. There are massive amounts of studies that have the same exact conclusion.
ColibriAnna08 5 months ago
@ColibriAnna08
"It always starts as a fetish or fantasy. Rape pornography encourages this. Is that so hard to believe?"
Not harder to believe than the catharsis theory, for which exists just about as much evidence: conclusively none.
I fantasized I was in the Army as a kid, I don't go around blowing people up. people who rape will probably fantasize about it. That does not mean that fantasizing about rape actually causes rape. that is the other way around and a causation that is unfounded.
SSTTEEAALLTTHH 5 months ago
So you believe the rapists have no desire to rape a woman? You believe that they are not sexually aroused by rape or violence? Explain to me exactly how that convoluted bullshit works, mister. Childhood dreams are not the same as sexual fantasy in adults. Your analogy is worthless. You expect me to agree that a man will rape a woman even though he is not sexually aroused by violence or rape? If he didn't find it appealing, he wouldn't do it. Fact!
ColibriAnna08 5 months ago
@ColibriAnna08
"So you believe the rapists have no desire to rape a woman? "
You call me a troll? I already explained this. I quote myself. "People who rape will probably fantasize about it. That does not mean that fantasizing about rape actually causes rape." Can't you see how you can't just turn that statement around and still expect it to be the unfounded truth? Learn the difference between correlation and causation and reverse causation. Go get a class in science, please.
SSTTEEAALLTTHH 5 months ago
There is no "probably" about it. A man doesn't look at a woman and decide to rape her without *ANY* previous thought or fantasy about rape. Again, I'm going to have to find a way to say this in other terms, since you're so stubborn about it.
The idea that fantasy doesn't lead to acting out that fantasy is nonsense. Does fantasizing about a woman you like not lead to sleeping with her? Is there no correlation?
That's your logic in a nut shell. This is *NOT* correlation. You get a science class!
ColibriAnna08 5 months ago
@ColibriAnna08
"You believe that they are not sexually aroused by rape or violence?"
I think they are, but I don't see what you imply by that.
"You expect me to agree that a man will rape a woman even though he is not sexually aroused by violence or rape?"
I don't expect your highly dogmatic control-freak personality to agree with anything. Again, I'm not even going to answer this question. Stop making up straw men. Learn the fucking difference between correlation and (reverse) causation.
SSTTEEAALLTTHH 5 months ago
Let me try to get this through your thick skull since you're too much of a whore for conflict to understand. Is there any case of a rapist you know of in which the rapist was not aroused by rape? No. Therefore, fantasy and rape fetish is a cause of rape. Saying it's not is as absurd as saying child fantasy and fetish is not a cause of child molestation. I fucking dare you prove that last statement wrong.
ColibriAnna08 5 months ago
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@ColibriAnna08
"If he didn't find it appealing, he wouldn't do it. Fact!"
Ignoring for a minute that plenty of people, if not the majority, maybe do find it appealing but don't do it either! The vast majority of people now the difference between fiction and reality and don't act upon primal desires like a troglodyte!
I love how this is all about women by the way, regardless of the fact that men can be raped too, do you happen to be a feminist?
SSTTEEAALLTTHH 5 months ago
@ColibriAnna08
You make the same mistakes as the researchers from your studies.
SSTTEEAALLTTHH 5 months ago
うっさいな
XDalliwantisyou 1 year ago
the bottom line is simple
if rapist or child molesters see the public majority or minority totally ignoring to be decent human beings, then it only spoon feeds their sick minded fantasies that are already deeply rooted in sick minded ideaologies.
if you support the "extra push" , you need serious help.
if a rapist sees it, they want it
and it doesn't matter if the urge is derived by real life boundaries and/or a virtual fetish defined immorally wrong by the majority or minority
FTWyousuck 2 years ago
I found this hilarious on so many levels.
holyknight70 2 years ago 2
You know what I think the majority in America has ignored for far too long? Women's clothing. Obviously, if a rapist sees a woman, scantily clad, he's going to want to rape her. Whether he does or not is not the issue. The issue is temptation. If we take away the temptation, the problem will go away, right? So, let's vote: who wants women to be completely covered, head to toe, to keep rapists from wanting to rape them? {Satire is a beautiful animal :)}
murphydexter311 2 years ago
i've got a better idea. how about the punishment for rape be "chop your dick off" haha!
how many guys would rape then?? hmmm
not a single guy would do it, unless they lose their manhood for some dumb shit:) Oops!
FTWyousuck 2 years ago
then show them porn so wen they get a boner the blood will spurt out like a fountain
rugbylover95 2 years ago
@FTWyousuck agreed but that would be "cruel and unusual punishment"
first lets start with no butt-rape in men's prison(just get beat up or get killed by fellow inmate but no butt rape!).
Uberaoshi 1 year ago
shut up
FIGHTFANNERD3 2 years ago
Right you are!
craftruth2009 2 years ago
@FTWyousuck i dont think cutting the dick off is good enough that rapist needs to be excuted.
Uberaoshi 1 year ago
@Uberaoshi tortured then executed
SuperSayien2k8 1 year ago
@SuperSayien2k8 i agree but them damn self-righteous liberals/hippies say its wrong to torture.
I like impaling rapists.
Uberaoshi 1 year ago
@Uberaoshi impale from the crotch up like a lollipop haha
SuperSayien2k8 1 year ago
@SuperSayien2k8 of course how else would we do it.
Uberaoshi 1 year ago
@Uberaoshi yeah i wish everyone else thought like that
SuperSayien2k8 1 year ago