Stuff like this needs to stop!! I will never eat beef from this type of farms ever. Nasty pure nasty. When I think of cows. They are on lots of green grass eating good food for them. SAD.SAD!!!!!! :-(
EVERYONE. please remember, this is only a SMALL portion of livestock producers. NOT EVERYONE! my family and i make a living off of this industry, and we do not torture our animals. its the way of life, and i understand if you dont agree with this, but its the way many people are born and raised. its not bad, its what they are raised for. they are "Stock" not pets. and America was built upon this industry! remember that. and also remember the people who count on the industry to stay alive.
Wow. Reading these comments proves that we have a long way to go on how people view animals. However, I do have hope with some other comments I see. :)
@duckkillerclydeclyde Humans are considered animals too. And you choose to consider them commodities, PETA, myself, and millions of people choose to respect them.
@RodentPrincess eating them is not disrespecting them and even it it was It wouldn't matter. let me ask you this rodent princess, do you have any pets?
@duckkillerclydeclyde Eating them is not disrespecting them, people are naturally omnivorous (though I choose to be vegetarian) It's the fact that they are raised and killed in extremely barbaric conditions. Humans have compassion and morals, higher traits that separate us from most other species. It's time people started using them.
I do have pets, I adopt small animals that have been neglected/abused.
@duckkillerclydeclyde Your reading comprehension is a joke. When you start calling me a hippie, that's when I realize you are not worth talking to. Good day.
so I havent been here in a while looks like not too many people want to find the "truth" about factory farming. To aggrajag2813: So you are fighting against something you don"t really know about? Something that you've never really seen? Something that does NOT exist: these "abusive, killing factory farms" that are so poorly labeled?
@datzfastplease stop talking--you are making those who choose to eat meat look like idiots with your comments (myself included).
the antibiotics that may be present in meat (i say may because they can only get into meat if the farmers aren't following federal regulations of with-holding times after antibiotic use) won't help you at all. But human misuse of antibiotics is contributing more to resistance in bacteria (how many times have you stopped taking a Rx just because you felt better?).
i just polished off rib eye, honestly it was melt in the mouth good. i didntly worry it had a terrible tortured life, i never will, no matter what is said or done. its sole purpose in life is to fill my gut, and of couse someone elese pocket with money.have you examined your life for its true purpose? do you awaken to the sound of an electronic device or do you wake from finished dreams?
@Just4Th3Lulz That's a good question. For me, a lot of the enjoyment of eating a big juicy steak is in: our upbringing (we're taught that it's delicious), the media (we're flashed meat every few seconds), the way we flavour it, and finally being blind to how the steak comes to be on your plate - the dirty truth.
Meat isn't food to me anymore so I don't crave it. There are other savoury, juicy, hearty comfort foods to enjoy that feel not only physically good but emotionally good.
i love cows. so much i eat them. even the sick anti-hormone infused ones. who knows how many times eating an antibiotic laced burger has saved my life from a strep throat or a gonorrhea attack. you cant say that eating a cow isnt good for you know can you. and for eveybody without obama care which is pretty much eveybody except obama, free medical care like this is worth it.
@datzfast If you're worried about gonorrhea, you're obviously making some pretty bad choices in your life, but I digress. The anitibiotics in meat actually have the precise opposite effect of what you're saying. The constant exposure to them makes bacteria more resistant to them, collectively weakening both the human immune system and the effectiveness of antibiotics in curing disease. That's in part why we now have diseases like MRSA that we used to be naturally resistant to.
THIS IS A LIST OF JUST A FEW BEEF BIPRODUCTS, now tell me you have nothing to do with animal slaughter... from hide and hair: Car upholstery, LEATHER. From Bones and Horns: Ice cream, Candies, Vitamin capsules, Chewing gum, Lipstick, Wallpaper paste, Photo film From Organs: Asphalt, MAKEUP, Fertilizer, Insulation in YOUR house, Livestock feed, Medicines, Paint, Plastic, SOAP, TIRES. ITS ALL AROUND US.everyone is going to have their opionions. but LEARN THE FACTS, from educated agriculture peers
THIS IS A LIST OF JUST A FEW BEEF BIPRODUCTS, now tell me you have nothing to do with animal slaughter... from hide and hair: Car upholstery, LEATHER. From Bones and Horns: Ice cream, Candies, Vitamin capsules, Chewing gum, Lipstick, Wallpaper paste, Photo film. From Organs: Asphalt, MAKEUP, Fertilizer, Insulation in YOUR house, Livestock feed, Medicines, Paint, Plastic, SOAP, TIRES. ITS ALL AROUND US.everyone is going to have their opionions. but LEARN THE FACTS, from educated agriculture peers
THIS IS A LIST OF JUST A FEW BEEF BIPRODUCTS, now tell me you have nothing to do with animal slaughter... from hide and hair: Car upholstery, LEATHER. From Bones and Horns: Ice cream, Candies, Vitamin capsules, Chewing gum, Lipstick, Wallpaper paste, Photo film. From Organs: Asphalt, MAKEUP, Fertilizer, Insulation in YOUR house, Livestock feed, Medicines, Paint, Plastic, SOAP, TIRES. ITS ALL AROUND US.everyone is going to have their opionions. but LEARN THE FACTS, from educated agriculture peers
oh ok, let's start bringing nationality into it....
i personally think [insert your country here] are the dumbest fucking people on the planet!!!!
not really, but see how ridiculous it is to group an entire country together?
also, i echo the other comments,please pick up a book or find an article that was reviewed by scientists
(regardless of their motives/education) before it was released (i could direct a "documentary" on why xMAYAVADA is an idiot, and lots of people would watch)
Unfortunately for those living in the United States, factory farming doesn't just mean animal abuse. It also means those who eat the meat get to enjoy all of the ill health affects of hormones and antibiotics, not to mention that they've been fed genetically engineered corn.
@xMAYAVADA Wow you really dont know anything. The amount of hormones that show up in the meat is nothing compared to other things I guarantee you eat and drink. There are hormones in every living thing. If you actually knew anything you would know that there are way more hormones in certain vegetables than what shows up in the meat of hormone injected beef. A glass of beer is basically a glass of estrogen. A lot of former living things that you eat has more hormones than meat.
@xMAYAVADA Do you really think that the government and the fda and every health nut that has there eyes trained on the farming industry would let something into the food system if it wasnt safe? The stuff has been tested time and time again. And I dont care what your mom feeds you, if is was alive IT HAS HORMONES, period. I dont care that the EU banned it, they ban everything. So you are telling me that you eat nothing outside the eggs your mom gives you and the meat from next door?
Oh my God are you serious? You really have no idea, I'm sorry. I think you need to watch Food, Inc. and check out The Corporation too. They're both factual documentaries that will help you understand. There are a shitload of Monsanto lobbyists in high places in the government and yes they allow unsafe food. Please do your research.
@xMAYAVADA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA..........HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA......HAHAHAHAHA...HAHAHA...all your inof is based on Fodd INC....seriously...a movie. Hey, I have a video camera, I'll go out and make my own movieof how things really are. Oh wait, I don't have millions of dollars to spend on that. But I guess people that do can make their movie and spin things however they want...sound familiar (Food Inc.). Your stupidity is amazing. I cant believe that you actually think the majority of the world treats
@xMAYAVADA animals with respect. Go to third world countries, go actually to any place where there are animals and you will find the same exact things you find in America, and maybe even worse. You think third world countries have money to pay for antibiotics to give there sick animals...no and do you know what they do with those sick animals, kill them and eat. There are over six billion people in the world, thats where I got my numbers numbnuts. But ok, since you dont know anything outside
@xMAYAVADA your little shell, lets use 300 million, thats still 100 MILLION people you have to say so long to because you want everything organic. I see now how sheltered you really are. I actually feel sorry for you in a way, that you were/are stupid enough to believe a movie before doing actual research. My advice to you, get out of your moms basement and learn about the world rather than hide from it.
@xMAYAVADA No wonder you dont know anything. What if those cattle next door got sick, then what, do they let it just die of the sickness or do they treat it with antibiotics like humans do? Do they pour the cattle with something to kill the insects and pests that infest them because if you dont then I say you are way more cruel to an animal. If you have the means to help him and dont you are cruel. And please, enlighten me on how their slaughtering technique is any diffrent than a packing plant
@xMAYAVADA Organic farmers are a joke. Your next door neighbor feeds you...ask him to feed the state, on second thought, start small, just a city. Ask him to feed one city and see what he can do. Most organic farmers break the rules anyways so I would be surprised if your mom and neighbor are even doing it right in the first place. If you want everything organic then just pick out a third of the world that you would like to die. The world is supposed to get to nine billion here soon so
@xMAYAVADA just go tell your friends and 3 billion other people that sorry, "I want everything organic and as a result there is not enough food to go around." But lets use numbers now, so what, we are about 6 or 7 billion. So just tell 1.5 billion that they have to die. That makes it better doesnt it? People need to start seeing the big picture and not just, "oh geeze a couple animals got antibiotics, or hormones, or mistreated" I am not saying be cruel to all animals, I just see the big picture
Lol, the overwhelming majority of people subjected to inhumane meat are Americans. That's about 300 million people. Not sure where you got that billions number. Most people in the world treat their animals with respect and don't give them GE food or pump them with antibiotics and hormones.
"Most people in the world treat their animals with respect and don't give them GE food or pump them with antibiotics and hormones"
-because they don't have the means to--you tell a poor middleastern or african farmer that you have some medicine or hormones that will make his animals fatter so he can feed his friends and family and see what he chooses (short of a religious conflict with its use)--every time they would choose their family first
@xMAYAVADA The antibiotics dont show up at all in the meat. There is a waiting period after the animal is injected so that very thing doesnt happen. The penalty for not doing the waiting period is severe so packing plants follow it. If they find one that has antibiotic in it they come down hard on the farmer (as in cant sell meat to them anymore ever). You need to do research rather than just ramble about crap you dont know. There are no health risks to eating meat that had hormones injected
@xMAYAVADA or antibiots injected, or that ate genetically engineered corn (which is completely healthy). You people have a problem with spitting out crap that you havent checked and getting people to listen to you. You hurt farmers that way and you may not care about that but like it or not they are the ones feeding you. The world wouldnt be fed if you had little family farms. There are to many cities and people and not enough farm land. So in order to feed everyone big farms are needed.
If it's so safe why is it banned in the EU? Factory farms don't feed me. My mother has organically fed chickens and we get eggs from them. Our beef comes from the small farm next door (organically fed cows, no GE corn obviously) and they live healthy, happy lives before they are humanely slaughtered. If someone cannot afford to eat this way then they should not eat meat for their safety and for the rights of animals. Do your research, factory farming is bad.
Farmers try their best to keep their cattle healthy and happy so stop complaining that they kill their cows and just don't care about them. Farmers try their hardest every day to feed the world and if you don't like it then just starve. You try to run a farm for a day and see how hard it is.
I have yet to get sick from it---i guess I have just missed all the research papers showing links to disease from eating meat that was raised near lots of other meat
What 9 psychos don't like this vid. This is heartwarming and it made me cry because I wish that all of the cows could live on this type of farm or other non factory farms. These are God's creatures, and if slaughtered it should be done humanely.I wonder if fast food resturants have caused the satanic factory farm industry.
After I saw Food, Inc, it made me sick to know about animal cruelty and the hormones they pump into them. I went organic on the milk and I rarely touch meat. I am not much a meat eater in the first place.
Another vid showing the actions of what very few farmers do. I think these people should visit more than 1 farm before they make any accusations. I pitty those with little knowledge.
honestly, i DO NOT agree with this. most cattle producers DO NOT treat their animals badly. i, myself, make sure that we do not. personally i am disgusted when cattle producers tortuure their animals, its cruel, which is why my family and i DONT torture ours. they were raised for meat, and iff god didnt intend us to eat meat, then why give us teeth like a wolves. if you continue these OBSURD accusations then youll be puttin many good people out of jobs.
here is my problem: lots of people eat meat. ok that is fine. Lots of people dont eat meat ok that is fine. Why is it that vegans and vegetarians are always pushing their ideas and views onto everyone else? do they think they are better? do they think we as omnivores and meat eaters are evil or something? I am in the dairy business I work on producing the most and best, cleanest, and healthiest milk I can. What is wrong with that? The vegans and vegs attack my way of life daily should I do that?
@MyPasswordIsUserName Tortured to death? ok so you think that since a few dairymen abuse their cows-something i dont like- that means all dairymen torture all of their cows? i care for my cows a lot they get lots of feed all day lots of water lots of sleep and anything else they need. if they get sick we treat them and take the best care of them that we can. Torture? no not at all These are the real facts. and all the dairies i know are the same
@rimdj You can't possibly be a farmer and be so ignorant about factory farms. Granted, not as many cows are factory farmed as chickens, but it's not "a few" cow farmers who are abusing their animals -- it's a vast majority.
@rimdj There is absolutely nothing wrong with advocating animal protection. Research factory farming -- that is what this video is about. There are ways to eat meat and not support factory farms. No one is attacking your line of work; they are attacking FACTORY FARMING. Research it. You can't possibly be a farmer and never have heard of it.
@pabloshoneee see thats the problem people attack factory farming and tell people to not eat meat and other dairy products. they say all we do is torture and kill for no reason. if you saw how hard my family has worked to keep them alive you would think the opposite. people hear "dont eat meat and milk" and the listen. any business that is ag related is affected that hurts the business and life that my family and I have been in for many generations. so in fact they are attacking my line of work
@aggrajag2813 Ha ha see that's your problem! You THINK that our line of work abuses animals. I am glad I KNOW FOR A FACT that we don't.. All the dairy farmers that I know and I work very hard to keep our animals safe and comfortable and healthy. I wish they could live like that forever, but sorry to say they are animals with a limited life span. Not my fault. Our animals live way better under our care than they ever would out in the real world of nature. Come over here and see for yourself.
@rimdj In raising animals for food, you're inherently abusing them. Even in the most humane circumstances, animals are killed in the physical primes of their lives for food purposes. You produce dairy, not meat? Do you just let your spent cows lead natural lives, or do you send them to slaughter? For that matter...how do you get milk from them? Just whenever they happen to be pregnant, then when the calf is born you let it have the milk? Or do you artificially inseminate and take the calf away?
@aggrajag2813 I'm inherently abusing them?! Everything YOU do any and all day you are inherently abusing, torturing or destroying something. Everything you use or touch wasn't just there was it? It was made. Man built it or grew it. We were put on this earth, and we were told to rule over all animals. We were given living things to eat or do as we wish. Now don't get me wrong we shouldn't abuse them or hurt them. Must people don't. I don't and you don't, but sorry to say some sickos do.
@rimdj Maybe you're a small-scale dairy farmer that's incredibly nice to all your cows. But if you send them to slaughter when they're spent, you're sending them to a place where people WILL torture them. I'm not just talking about the killing either. It's harder to find a slaughterhouse that doesn't abuse animals before the killing than one that does. And in separating a mother from a child so that you can consume the milk instead, you are abusing those cows. Imagine if it were your child.
@aggrajag2813 1. Ok so you see a few videos of a few people abusing a few cows, yeah thats very bad. Not all slaughterhouses abuse cows. They are killed instantly, they feel no pain. I have seen it in person. No I don't know what it feels like, but neither do you. I do know they are instantly dead. When was the last time you were actually in a beef house and not just seen a biased one moment in time kind of video to base your "facts" on?
@aggrajag2813 2. My child is very different from a calf. My child is a human being created with a soul. A calf is an animal. A calf only cares about getting its milk, which it gets plenty of all the time. The mother cow never misses its calf. I have watched many cows that had just had their calf. They don't mourn or cry at all. I have seen it many times a day. The mother cow just wants to eat and get milked to relieve the pressure in her udder.
@rimdj Well that's interesting. My uncle was a dairy farmer and the cows I saw ALWAYS went crazy when their calf was taken away. Maybe your cows are different.
@rimdj Well that's interesting. My uncle was a dairy farmer and the cows I saw ALWAYS went crazy when their calf was taken away. Maybe your cows are different.
1. You have yet to address this issue: When your cows are spent do you sell them to slaughter? How do you think they're treated there?
2. I'm not a religious person. Could you give a secular reason that humans are better than animals? From what I understand about Christianity, God gave man dominion over animals. Does that mean killing them, or taking care of them? Why should we expect mercy from the being with dominion over us when we kill those we have dominion over daily?
@aggrajag2813 Sorry, didn't see your first post. I've tried to visit slaughterhouses. They don't really let outsiders like me in. The only evidence I have is some videos and boos, which I'm sure are biased. However, assuming all slaughterhouses run in fully "humane" manners and animals die instantly...you're still killing a living, feeling being in the prime of its life. Less cruel? Certainly, but it's still pretty inhumane. Especially when the standard is to slit the animal's throat.
@aggrajag2813 Ok to clear one thing up: I know I'm not gonna convince you to become a Christian,but that's ok. I guess it wont hurt to try, but thats not really the issue. God gave us permission to rule over them. Yes that means to take care of them the best we can. God also gave us permission to kill and eat them, but not just any animal. Thats why there is Kosher food, but that has to do with the Old Testament. In the New Testament God gave us permission to eat some other animals as well.
@aggrajag2813 now far a secular reason. We are just animals, more evolved and more intelligent. Before man would eat meat he would wander around, search and gather their food. He was always searching and looking for more food all day. The food he ate(veggies and fruit) was quickly turned into energy that he burned up looking for his next meal.Later man evolved and figured out that if he killed an animal and ate its muscle he filled his stomach quicker and had more energy from it. no more walking
@rimdj and with that in mind, it has been studied and researched that man would have never evolved to the place we are. Cities, families, different jobs, and some other things would have never happened if we never ate meat. People would still be wandering around looking for nuts and berries to eat. If a guy only spent time looking for food he would never have time to have a family, or ever have time anything else. Man got together and tamed the animals that they can eat, built towns and lived.
@rimdj The only reason people can now afford to be vegetarians and vegans is because just a small percentage of the civilized world like us farmers feed the very large population of every one else. If everyone did what all these vegans want, EVERYONE would have to be farmers again. what does that sound like? To me it sounds like third world countries. The richest people in third world countries are the ones with a few animals that they can feed their families with. Vegans want us to DEVOLVE.
@rimdj I understand the evolutionary aspect of meat eating as it was beneficial to our survival and evolution. However, now that we're in a place with massive agricultural capabilities, it's no longer necessary to our survival or evolution. All nutrients our body needs can come from plant and bacteria sources. Being that that's the case, I see it as more ethical to choose to eat things which cannot suffer instead of things which can suffer.
@aggrajag2813 Cows do not suffer. They live comfortable happy lives. They are slaughtered not by cutting the throat but with a bolt to the brain killing them instantly and without pain. Studies have proven that when a cow is chewing its cud it is comfortable, content and happy. When you look at my cows they are eating sleeping or getting milked. When they lay down they chew their cud. The cows on our dairy are in no worse condition than they would be out in the wild. Probably better here.
@rimdj There's also a difference between small-scale and large-scale ("factory") agriculture, though. Based on this discussion, I really think the cows on your farm probably ARE happy. That doesn't mean I would like to kill and eat them, though. And personally, I still wouldn't consume dairy even from a happy cow. I just don't see their milk as "for us," so to speak. Plus, I like the taste of almond milk better.
@aggrajag2813 What is your "definition" of a factory farm then? What qualifies one farm as a small farm and another as a factory farm? What is the true difference? If you saw one farm compared to another, would one be better or worse? Who is really to judge how some animals are treated? We protect them from the elements and from many different kinds of predators. Is that torture and suffering? And NOTHING beats an almost freezing glass of milk fresh from the cow milked only minutes ago.
@rimdj "Factory farm" is kind of like the classic definition of pornography - "I know it when I see it." It still, though, isn't about the conditions themselves to me. I don't think it's ethically right to eat animals or the things that come from them, period, and I don't see how other people square it. No matter how well cows are otherwise treated, I find artificially impregnating them, taking their babies away, and then drinking the milk meant for their young to be ethically wrong.
@rimdj As for humane slaughter, I believe it's an oxymoron. But even if I believed in humane slaughter, the argument against it is similar to my argument against capital punishment. In capital punishment, if one innocent person is executed, it makes all tax payers murderers. In meat, if one slaughter is botched (and there's evidence that the number is much higher than one), it makes buying meat inhumane. Just my personal opinion.
@aggrajag2813 You are right it is an oxymoron. Humane slaughter does not exist, and I never said it does. But quick and painless slaughter is what happens everyday. Anything that anyone does for an animal "humanely" is also an oxymoron. Animals are animals, and should be treated like respected animals. They are not to be treated like humans. They are not equal to us.
@rimdj The majority of grain production in the world goes not to feeding people but to feeding farmed animals. Eliminating animals from our diet wouldn't lead to the need for more farmers (or at least not to the point where everyone would have to be a farmer as you suggest), it would lead to more of the food that is already being farmed being consumed by people rather than feeding it to animals, then the animals to people. It's more like cutting out the middle man, in this case animals.
@rimdj As for the religious argument, I don't recall anywhere in the Bible God saying it's OK to eat animals. In Genesis 1:29-1:30 God says "I give you every seed-bearing plant on the face of the whole earth and every tree that has fruit with seed in it. They will be yours for food. And to all the beasts of the earth and all the birds of the air and all the creatures that move on the ground--everything that has the breath of life in it--I give every green plant for food." Animals are not present
@aggrajag2813 ok well I am glad you read your Bible, too bad you don't read it enough. Leviticus 11 talks about eating animals. Verse 3 especially: "You may eat any animal that has a split hoof completely divided and that chews the cud." That describes a cow pretty well I think.
@rimdj "We were put on this earth, and told to rule over all slaves. We bought living things to work or do as we wish. Don't get me wrong we shouldn't abuse them or hurt them. Must people don't. I don't and you don't, but sorry to say some sickos do."
"It's easy for us to criticize the prejudices of our grandfathers, from which our fathers freed themselves. It's more difficult to distance ourselves from our own views, so we can search for prejudices among the beliefs we hold." - Peter Singer
Sometimes I am surprised at the negative remarks by meat eaters, I fail to see that they approve of this cruel practice for 5 minutes of "pleasure ". eating meat has been linked to the holocaust but the only difference is that the victims are eaten. Is meat good for you? No. Do you need it? NO.There are enough videos on-line showing what happens in abattoirs..please go look before you form an opinion and just maybe you will not approve of this madness.
i dont care if farmsare humane or not, it is still cruel if you kill them for food, we are NOT meant to eat animals, regardless of our supposed superiority to them. The facts are clear and simple, meat and dairy causes most cancers and we are literally dying because of our vanity for it. There is no denying it , all the research supports it..
Exactly, thank you for making my point. Not all farms mistreat their animals. It is actually very rare. Mistreated cows do not make money. This video says you can slaughter downer cows, that is not true, the cow cannot even be limping if it is to be slaughtered. Cows are not "pumped full of antibiotics" it is used to prevent and treat diseases when needed. A cow can not be slaughtered if it has too much antibiotic in its system. Every drug has its length of time that it stays in the system
Couldnt the reason that farmers are putting these animals in these environments is that we are suppose to feed not only America but the rest of the world too. Less than 2% of Americans still farm today. Not to mention increased need for land. People are all gunhoe to put up a shopping mall, yet when they see a PRODUCTIVE, WORKING FARM start up beside them, they want them to either move or get rid of the farm. When the world falls due to the lack of available food, dont blame the farmers!
Thats what i wish would happen that some of these people doing these interview would talk to someone from the other perspective. It seems like a betrail to americas most important business when people say they are switching to vegetarianism. It has been proven over and over again that the human body does not work as well without meat and dairy. you can't replace it. Thats why meat and dairy are on the food pyramid.
I do dairy, but I get 98% of it from my own cow that I treat as a family member. My whole family does. We are all vegetarians. We are definately well fed, and we don't kill any animals.
Well Steer 1300. You will never hear the other side of the debate on a issue like this. And heres why..., There crazy, But not crazy enough to understand that if the other side of the story is told there argument wouldn't be worth a damn
imfarmraised...I suggest you read EATING ANIMALS...It presents both sides of the argument and has sympathy for traditional farming where animal husbandry is practised, where farmers cared about their animals. Factory farms however are there to make their owners very rich and have no regard for anything, except profit. Those poor animals in those torture houses..thats all I can say.
@v07m9s Yeah but its not practical and the factory farm thing is much more extreme in the grain category not to mention that over 80% of all of these evil factory farms are owned by family's and aren't very wealthy. So have you ever really been to one of those evil farms if you did I think you would be surprised at the treatment at the "torture houses".
Oh, i'm so glad these "experts" tell us how beef and dairy is treated. Growing up on a farm hasnt educated me at all as to how things really work. This video is bullshit
this is true. I'm sure that there are farms/ranches who mistreat there animals. But heres the thing all animal rights people have to understand. It's not easy getting a calf on the ground. There are literally thousands of things to think about with the cows, horse or the sheep's well being in mind. Trust me when I say. You screw up on one of the thousand's of factors. Your animal is not healthy. Poor health=poor return. farmers and ranchers with poor returns are not around too long.
@rancherjongus I agree...and this new way of replying on youtube is kinda convienient, (I must add :-) Yeah, farms with sick animals can't profit too long. Yay
It's MY fucking right to believe whatever I want and fight for whatever laws that *I* want, because I know for an absolute fact that YOU vote for fucking fascist Democrats and Republicans every fucking single election simply because "it's your right to", regardless of the consequences. So, please throw gasoline on yourself and let others set you on fire.
Yeah, right, "I" am the one with "no purpose" - the one FIGHTING for just laws.
No, you are. And a mentally inferior subhuman. You think every soldier who kills is a psychopath, because you don't care about the REASONS for killing, because you obviously don't care about MY reasons. The ONLY thing you see is the word "killing" and that is the ONLY thing your shit brain responds to.
Since 1983, I have been strongly advocating torturing and killing those who refuse to became vegan who have no excuse (e.g. they are not forced to eat meat because they are held hostage in prison or because of a serious medical problem - that sort of thing).
You really are a shithead. You must enjoy all the military dictatorships in the world because you advocate only bullshit peaceful means of ending their reigns of terror. Go live in Chile or Myanmar.
i'm an advocate of freedom of speech and i feel that i am pretty empathetic to many perspectives, but holy crap man are you serious? i also understand that it is easy to get carried away and post something that is rediculous just to make a point when your ego blinds you, but hooooooly crap dude! you discredit your cause!
for ALLL you women out there, when we have babies sum of us have to breast feed. just imagine how Painful it would be to have to produce 10 times your natural milk flow.. thats what these female cows are having to do.. THATS FUCKED!
the problem is more that there are too many HUMANS.
Even if we let farmed animals back into 'the wild' and we all became vegetarian, we would either wipe out fish, or barren our lands and then starve ourselves, and probably the animals we saved.
We are omnivores. We eat meat and vegetation. We are at the top of the food chain. there are 6billion of us. therefore we hunt, and eat our prey. the issue is not the meat eating, it is how many meat eaters we have bred onto this little earth.
While I do agree with on principle, I constantly find many who will debate this point for various reasons that have to do with the 'kind of meat' it is, the way it is processed by the body, and the nature of fish as creatures.
I think it is also quite clear that many of the people who protest factory farming and who call themselves vegetarian are in fact avid fish eaters and would be very turned off by the idea of giving up fish, and would continue to eat it even if we stopped factory farming
please teach lions and tigers not to eat meat.....they are really crazy they dont care about other animals and hyena is worst than all...i dont really like him....they are so cruel ....they have alot of fruit available to them but they still kill their mates just to get some meet ...how sick they are
im nearly vegan i guess... some times when i feel like gettin' fancy i'll use raw honey in my smoothies. I feel great. meat & dairy & eggs (even organic) made me feel sickly. now im feeling great.
its called hunting. its natural. we are the top of the food chain. animals do it, we do it, we just do a lot more of it. Why? because we are probably the most populous predator on the planet.
This is of course leaving out certain insects, and sea creatures.
oh did I mention that we are on of the only predators to actually kill our prey BEFORE we eat it. thats much more than most prey get. don't live in a fantasy land, its human nature, and we get alot of good things from eating animals
Physical strength is not the determining factor, domination is. We have dominated all of our natural predators and now we sit on top, and do pretty much as we please with the animal kingdom.
I said humans are the most populous PREDATOR on the planet, not being. (aside from some insects and sea creatures).
There may be some cultures that do eat live animals, but this doesn't take away from the point that humans eating other animals is as natural as other animals eating other animals
@islakay Complete nonsense. I'm not against your stand on meat. That's your decision. I just can't stand when people make categorical statements without anything to back it up.
There are three kinds of lies: There are lies, damned lies and statistics. - Benjamin Disraeli
So I guess we can't take a tongue-in-cheek comment now can we? Personally, I think it's disgusting how some animals are raised. I think something should be done to make sure that the animals don't suffer. I'll stand by you on the fact that animals have been moved from fields to factories which is unhealthy for everyone. I like free-range food and buy it whenever possible. However, I don't think it's cruel to eat animals because everything eats everything that's how life exists.
Does every animal in nature die humanely? How humanely do lions kill their prey? How humanely does an alligator drown and rip apart the little critters that it eats? How humane are the combines that cut down all that corn that are planted in those inhumane rows? Everything in nature eats everything else...it's NATURE! Watch the Lion King, Mufasa explains everything.
I've never seen a lion trap its prey in a cage for its entire life and then ship their prey off to a slaughterhouse to have their throat cut while they hang upside down partially paralyzed.
but what you do see is a couple of lions ripping an animal away from its pack, and ripping it apart while it is still alive and feasting on it while it screams and bleeds to death, then they leave it to go off and do something else, while ANOTHER animal comes and munches on the still living half eaten remains.
Our way of hunting has been mechanized JUST LIKE EVERYTHING ELSE. Why are you only criticizing the hunt, which is perfectly natural. unlike cars, urbanization, most pollution, etcetcetc
When I refer to 'hunt' I am referring to the practice of Predators finding, killing, eating their prey.
In the 21st Century most humans 'hunt' by going to the supermarket. We in fact now breed our prey in captivity, so we don't have to go and fight with it like animals do in the wild.
The concept is the same, we just do it in more efficient way because there are so many mouths to feed
Anybody that thinks that factory farms are okay.... I actually don't know what to say I'm that speechless that people really think its okay
Yousgotprobs 10 hours ago
I'm not concerned. The food is delicious. Never ever got a beef related illness.
lovebigboobs29 2 months ago
Stuff like this needs to stop!! I will never eat beef from this type of farms ever. Nasty pure nasty. When I think of cows. They are on lots of green grass eating good food for them. SAD.SAD!!!!!! :-(
gonzo8407 5 months ago
Im sorry. I dont give a fuck.
juliuslagerlf 6 months ago
EVERYONE. please remember, this is only a SMALL portion of livestock producers. NOT EVERYONE! my family and i make a living off of this industry, and we do not torture our animals. its the way of life, and i understand if you dont agree with this, but its the way many people are born and raised. its not bad, its what they are raised for. they are "Stock" not pets. and America was built upon this industry! remember that. and also remember the people who count on the industry to stay alive.
star4life0811 6 months ago
Wow. Reading these comments proves that we have a long way to go on how people view animals. However, I do have hope with some other comments I see. :)
epiphonerox 7 months ago
Why is this a completely one sided video instead giving both sides of the story?
niallkenny10 7 months ago
one of the other many reasons why americans are so fat and stupid and perverse
brystonfan 7 months ago
yes, cattle are a commodity just like wheat and corn!!
there is a reason why we call them animals
duckkillerclydeclyde 7 months ago
@duckkillerclydeclyde Humans are considered animals too. And you choose to consider them commodities, PETA, myself, and millions of people choose to respect them.
RodentPrincess 7 months ago
@RodentPrincess eating them is not disrespecting them and even it it was It wouldn't matter. let me ask you this rodent princess, do you have any pets?
duckkillerclydeclyde 7 months ago
@duckkillerclydeclyde Eating them is not disrespecting them, people are naturally omnivorous (though I choose to be vegetarian) It's the fact that they are raised and killed in extremely barbaric conditions. Humans have compassion and morals, higher traits that separate us from most other species. It's time people started using them.
I do have pets, I adopt small animals that have been neglected/abused.
RodentPrincess 7 months ago
@RodentPrincess why not lets those pets take care of themselves and give them some respect? they are just like us, animals, remember?
I think cattle sheep chickens....all the animals we use for food/medicine/testing. should be raised as cheaply and as cost effective as possible.
maybe you should watch planet of the apes. "get your stinking paws off of me, you damn dirty hippie"
duckkillerclydeclyde 7 months ago
@duckkillerclydeclyde Your reading comprehension is a joke. When you start calling me a hippie, that's when I realize you are not worth talking to. Good day.
RodentPrincess 7 months ago
@RodentPrincess HIPPIE!
duckkillerclydeclyde 7 months ago
I love beef yum....
kay3450 8 months ago
so I havent been here in a while looks like not too many people want to find the "truth" about factory farming. To aggrajag2813: So you are fighting against something you don"t really know about? Something that you've never really seen? Something that does NOT exist: these "abusive, killing factory farms" that are so poorly labeled?
rimdj 8 months ago
One of the solutions is to buy from small family farms. Farms that respect, love and treat livestock w/ humane handling.
Rainbow Ranch Farms grows free range, grass fed, heritage breed chickens, turkeys, cattle and pigs. Check them out on google "Rainbow Ranch Farms".
NO G.M.O's - NO Corn - NO Soy! Certified Organic Only! Humane handling and all heritage livestock breeds.
Know your food, know your farmer. Know how your food is grown, treated and harvested.
Visit the Farm & Farmers!
XXXXenia 10 months ago
@XXXXenia Propagandhi's "Human(e) Meat" would like a word with you.
aggrajag2813 10 months ago
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One of the solutions is to buy from small family farms. Farms that respect, love and treat livestock w/ humane handling.
Rainbow Ranch Farms grows free range, grass fed, heritage breed chickens, turkeys, cattle and pigs. Check them out on google "Rainbow Ranch Farms".
NO G.M.O's - NO Corn - NO Soy! Certified Organic Only! Humane handling and all heritage livestock breeds.
Know your food, know your farmer. Know how your food is grown, treated and harvested.
Visit the Farm & Farmers!
XXXXenia 10 months ago
@datzfastplease stop talking--you are making those who choose to eat meat look like idiots with your comments (myself included).
the antibiotics that may be present in meat (i say may because they can only get into meat if the farmers aren't following federal regulations of with-holding times after antibiotic use) won't help you at all. But human misuse of antibiotics is contributing more to resistance in bacteria (how many times have you stopped taking a Rx just because you felt better?).
bighoops57 10 months ago
i just polished off rib eye, honestly it was melt in the mouth good. i didntly worry it had a terrible tortured life, i never will, no matter what is said or done. its sole purpose in life is to fill my gut, and of couse someone elese pocket with money.have you examined your life for its true purpose? do you awaken to the sound of an electronic device or do you wake from finished dreams?
datzfast 10 months ago
@Just4Th3Lulz That's a good question. For me, a lot of the enjoyment of eating a big juicy steak is in: our upbringing (we're taught that it's delicious), the media (we're flashed meat every few seconds), the way we flavour it, and finally being blind to how the steak comes to be on your plate - the dirty truth.
Meat isn't food to me anymore so I don't crave it. There are other savoury, juicy, hearty comfort foods to enjoy that feel not only physically good but emotionally good.
islakay 11 months ago
mmmmmm mcdonalds
ProctorIII 11 months ago
i love cows. so much i eat them. even the sick anti-hormone infused ones. who knows how many times eating an antibiotic laced burger has saved my life from a strep throat or a gonorrhea attack. you cant say that eating a cow isnt good for you know can you. and for eveybody without obama care which is pretty much eveybody except obama, free medical care like this is worth it.
datzfast 11 months ago
@datzfast If you're worried about gonorrhea, you're obviously making some pretty bad choices in your life, but I digress. The anitibiotics in meat actually have the precise opposite effect of what you're saying. The constant exposure to them makes bacteria more resistant to them, collectively weakening both the human immune system and the effectiveness of antibiotics in curing disease. That's in part why we now have diseases like MRSA that we used to be naturally resistant to.
aggrajag2813 10 months ago
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THIS IS A LIST OF JUST A FEW BEEF BIPRODUCTS, now tell me you have nothing to do with animal slaughter... from hide and hair: Car upholstery, LEATHER. From Bones and Horns: Ice cream, Candies, Vitamin capsules, Chewing gum, Lipstick, Wallpaper paste, Photo film From Organs: Asphalt, MAKEUP, Fertilizer, Insulation in YOUR house, Livestock feed, Medicines, Paint, Plastic, SOAP, TIRES. ITS ALL AROUND US.everyone is going to have their opionions. but LEARN THE FACTS, from educated agriculture peers
bribriq9 1 year ago
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THIS IS A LIST OF JUST A FEW BEEF BIPRODUCTS, now tell me you have nothing to do with animal slaughter... from hide and hair: Car upholstery, LEATHER. From Bones and Horns: Ice cream, Candies, Vitamin capsules, Chewing gum, Lipstick, Wallpaper paste, Photo film. From Organs: Asphalt, MAKEUP, Fertilizer, Insulation in YOUR house, Livestock feed, Medicines, Paint, Plastic, SOAP, TIRES. ITS ALL AROUND US.everyone is going to have their opionions. but LEARN THE FACTS, from educated agriculture peers
bribriq9 1 year ago
THIS IS A LIST OF JUST A FEW BEEF BIPRODUCTS, now tell me you have nothing to do with animal slaughter... from hide and hair: Car upholstery, LEATHER. From Bones and Horns: Ice cream, Candies, Vitamin capsules, Chewing gum, Lipstick, Wallpaper paste, Photo film. From Organs: Asphalt, MAKEUP, Fertilizer, Insulation in YOUR house, Livestock feed, Medicines, Paint, Plastic, SOAP, TIRES. ITS ALL AROUND US.everyone is going to have their opionions. but LEARN THE FACTS, from educated agriculture peers
bribriq9 1 year ago
American sheep are the dumbest sheep in the world.
xMAYAVADA 1 year ago
@xMAYAVADA
oh ok, let's start bringing nationality into it....
i personally think [insert your country here] are the dumbest fucking people on the planet!!!!
not really, but see how ridiculous it is to group an entire country together?
also, i echo the other comments,please pick up a book or find an article that was reviewed by scientists
(regardless of their motives/education) before it was released (i could direct a "documentary" on why xMAYAVADA is an idiot, and lots of people would watch)
bighoops57 10 months ago
Unfortunately for those living in the United States, factory farming doesn't just mean animal abuse. It also means those who eat the meat get to enjoy all of the ill health affects of hormones and antibiotics, not to mention that they've been fed genetically engineered corn.
xMAYAVADA 1 year ago
@xMAYAVADA Wow you really dont know anything. The amount of hormones that show up in the meat is nothing compared to other things I guarantee you eat and drink. There are hormones in every living thing. If you actually knew anything you would know that there are way more hormones in certain vegetables than what shows up in the meat of hormone injected beef. A glass of beer is basically a glass of estrogen. A lot of former living things that you eat has more hormones than meat.
MrBeefEaters 1 year ago
@MrBeefEaters
Also how do you feel about factory farmed ground beef being treated with ammonia? Yay or nay on that one?
xMAYAVADA 1 year ago
@xMAYAVADA Do you really think that the government and the fda and every health nut that has there eyes trained on the farming industry would let something into the food system if it wasnt safe? The stuff has been tested time and time again. And I dont care what your mom feeds you, if is was alive IT HAS HORMONES, period. I dont care that the EU banned it, they ban everything. So you are telling me that you eat nothing outside the eggs your mom gives you and the meat from next door?
MrBeefEaters 1 year ago
@MrBeefEaters
Oh my God are you serious? You really have no idea, I'm sorry. I think you need to watch Food, Inc. and check out The Corporation too. They're both factual documentaries that will help you understand. There are a shitload of Monsanto lobbyists in high places in the government and yes they allow unsafe food. Please do your research.
xMAYAVADA 1 year ago
@xMAYAVADA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA..........HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA......HAHAHAHAHA...HAHAHA...all your inof is based on Fodd INC....seriously...a movie. Hey, I have a video camera, I'll go out and make my own movieof how things really are. Oh wait, I don't have millions of dollars to spend on that. But I guess people that do can make their movie and spin things however they want...sound familiar (Food Inc.). Your stupidity is amazing. I cant believe that you actually think the majority of the world treats
MrBeefEaters 1 year ago
@xMAYAVADA animals with respect. Go to third world countries, go actually to any place where there are animals and you will find the same exact things you find in America, and maybe even worse. You think third world countries have money to pay for antibiotics to give there sick animals...no and do you know what they do with those sick animals, kill them and eat. There are over six billion people in the world, thats where I got my numbers numbnuts. But ok, since you dont know anything outside
MrBeefEaters 1 year ago
@xMAYAVADA your little shell, lets use 300 million, thats still 100 MILLION people you have to say so long to because you want everything organic. I see now how sheltered you really are. I actually feel sorry for you in a way, that you were/are stupid enough to believe a movie before doing actual research. My advice to you, get out of your moms basement and learn about the world rather than hide from it.
MrBeefEaters 1 year ago
@xMAYAVADA No wonder you dont know anything. What if those cattle next door got sick, then what, do they let it just die of the sickness or do they treat it with antibiotics like humans do? Do they pour the cattle with something to kill the insects and pests that infest them because if you dont then I say you are way more cruel to an animal. If you have the means to help him and dont you are cruel. And please, enlighten me on how their slaughtering technique is any diffrent than a packing plant
MrBeefEaters 1 year ago
@xMAYAVADA Organic farmers are a joke. Your next door neighbor feeds you...ask him to feed the state, on second thought, start small, just a city. Ask him to feed one city and see what he can do. Most organic farmers break the rules anyways so I would be surprised if your mom and neighbor are even doing it right in the first place. If you want everything organic then just pick out a third of the world that you would like to die. The world is supposed to get to nine billion here soon so
MrBeefEaters 1 year ago
@xMAYAVADA just go tell your friends and 3 billion other people that sorry, "I want everything organic and as a result there is not enough food to go around." But lets use numbers now, so what, we are about 6 or 7 billion. So just tell 1.5 billion that they have to die. That makes it better doesnt it? People need to start seeing the big picture and not just, "oh geeze a couple animals got antibiotics, or hormones, or mistreated" I am not saying be cruel to all animals, I just see the big picture
MrBeefEaters 1 year ago
@MrBeefEaters
Lol, the overwhelming majority of people subjected to inhumane meat are Americans. That's about 300 million people. Not sure where you got that billions number. Most people in the world treat their animals with respect and don't give them GE food or pump them with antibiotics and hormones.
xMAYAVADA 1 year ago
@xMAYAVADA
"Most people in the world treat their animals with respect and don't give them GE food or pump them with antibiotics and hormones"
-because they don't have the means to--you tell a poor middleastern or african farmer that you have some medicine or hormones that will make his animals fatter so he can feed his friends and family and see what he chooses (short of a religious conflict with its use)--every time they would choose their family first
PEOPLE HAVE MORE WORTH THAN ANIMALS.
bighoops57 10 months ago
@xMAYAVADA The antibiotics dont show up at all in the meat. There is a waiting period after the animal is injected so that very thing doesnt happen. The penalty for not doing the waiting period is severe so packing plants follow it. If they find one that has antibiotic in it they come down hard on the farmer (as in cant sell meat to them anymore ever). You need to do research rather than just ramble about crap you dont know. There are no health risks to eating meat that had hormones injected
MrBeefEaters 1 year ago
@xMAYAVADA or antibiots injected, or that ate genetically engineered corn (which is completely healthy). You people have a problem with spitting out crap that you havent checked and getting people to listen to you. You hurt farmers that way and you may not care about that but like it or not they are the ones feeding you. The world wouldnt be fed if you had little family farms. There are to many cities and people and not enough farm land. So in order to feed everyone big farms are needed.
MrBeefEaters 1 year ago
@MrBeefEaters
If it's so safe why is it banned in the EU? Factory farms don't feed me. My mother has organically fed chickens and we get eggs from them. Our beef comes from the small farm next door (organically fed cows, no GE corn obviously) and they live healthy, happy lives before they are humanely slaughtered. If someone cannot afford to eat this way then they should not eat meat for their safety and for the rights of animals. Do your research, factory farming is bad.
xMAYAVADA 1 year ago
@xMAYAVADA
animals do not have rights
they have needs, such as freedom from pain/suffering
but those are provided when ability allows us to--it is NOT A RIGHT
bighoops57 10 months ago
I guess they delete any responses that are against this video.
MrBeefEaters 1 year ago
concentration camp for cows.
BleakCries 1 year ago
God dam hippies.
theguybehingyou 1 year ago
Farmers try their best to keep their cattle healthy and happy so stop complaining that they kill their cows and just don't care about them. Farmers try their hardest every day to feed the world and if you don't like it then just starve. You try to run a farm for a day and see how hard it is.
theguybehingyou 1 year ago
@theguybehingyou The food you eat is not from family farmers. The food you eat is from factory farms. Do some research. It will make you sick.
pabloshoneee 1 year ago
@pabloshoneee
I have yet to get sick from it---i guess I have just missed all the research papers showing links to disease from eating meat that was raised near lots of other meat
bighoops57 10 months ago
@theguybehingyou Psst...fruits, vegetables, and grains are also farmed.
aggrajag2813 11 months ago
What 9 psychos don't like this vid. This is heartwarming and it made me cry because I wish that all of the cows could live on this type of farm or other non factory farms. These are God's creatures, and if slaughtered it should be done humanely.I wonder if fast food resturants have caused the satanic factory farm industry.
nogerdsurg 1 year ago
After I saw Food, Inc, it made me sick to know about animal cruelty and the hormones they pump into them. I went organic on the milk and I rarely touch meat. I am not much a meat eater in the first place.
shannonm75 1 year ago
was a great job working at the meat works :P
Windwalker1987 1 year ago
Another vid showing the actions of what very few farmers do. I think these people should visit more than 1 farm before they make any accusations. I pitty those with little knowledge.
ProDairyAndBeef 1 year ago
@ProDairyAndBeef wish very few farmers wud do it...cuz too many farmers do it...
xR0ckBeatInT0ki0x 1 year ago
@xR0ckBeatInT0ki0x
list the offenses, biatch
(shouldn't take all 500 characters)
bighoops57 10 months ago
honestly, i DO NOT agree with this. most cattle producers DO NOT treat their animals badly. i, myself, make sure that we do not. personally i am disgusted when cattle producers tortuure their animals, its cruel, which is why my family and i DONT torture ours. they were raised for meat, and iff god didnt intend us to eat meat, then why give us teeth like a wolves. if you continue these OBSURD accusations then youll be puttin many good people out of jobs.
star4life0811 1 year ago
here is my problem: lots of people eat meat. ok that is fine. Lots of people dont eat meat ok that is fine. Why is it that vegans and vegetarians are always pushing their ideas and views onto everyone else? do they think they are better? do they think we as omnivores and meat eaters are evil or something? I am in the dairy business I work on producing the most and best, cleanest, and healthiest milk I can. What is wrong with that? The vegans and vegs attack my way of life daily should I do that?
rimdj 1 year ago
@rimdj do they think they are better, maybe they care about those animals who are being tortured to death so you can eat meat
maybe that is why vegans and vegetarians push their diet
if vegans and vegetarians do not speak out for those animals who are tortured to death who will?
MyPasswordIsUserName 1 year ago
@MyPasswordIsUserName Tortured to death? ok so you think that since a few dairymen abuse their cows-something i dont like- that means all dairymen torture all of their cows? i care for my cows a lot they get lots of feed all day lots of water lots of sleep and anything else they need. if they get sick we treat them and take the best care of them that we can. Torture? no not at all These are the real facts. and all the dairies i know are the same
rimdj 1 year ago
@rimdj You can't possibly be a farmer and be so ignorant about factory farms. Granted, not as many cows are factory farmed as chickens, but it's not "a few" cow farmers who are abusing their animals -- it's a vast majority.
pabloshoneee 1 year ago
@rimdj There is absolutely nothing wrong with advocating animal protection. Research factory farming -- that is what this video is about. There are ways to eat meat and not support factory farms. No one is attacking your line of work; they are attacking FACTORY FARMING. Research it. You can't possibly be a farmer and never have heard of it.
pabloshoneee 1 year ago
@pabloshoneee see thats the problem people attack factory farming and tell people to not eat meat and other dairy products. they say all we do is torture and kill for no reason. if you saw how hard my family has worked to keep them alive you would think the opposite. people hear "dont eat meat and milk" and the listen. any business that is ag related is affected that hurts the business and life that my family and I have been in for many generations. so in fact they are attacking my line of work
rimdj 1 year ago
@rimdj Yes, I'm attacking a line of work that abuses animals. I'm sorry that it happens to be your line of work.
aggrajag2813 11 months ago
@aggrajag2813 Ha ha see that's your problem! You THINK that our line of work abuses animals. I am glad I KNOW FOR A FACT that we don't.. All the dairy farmers that I know and I work very hard to keep our animals safe and comfortable and healthy. I wish they could live like that forever, but sorry to say they are animals with a limited life span. Not my fault. Our animals live way better under our care than they ever would out in the real world of nature. Come over here and see for yourself.
rimdj 11 months ago
@rimdj In raising animals for food, you're inherently abusing them. Even in the most humane circumstances, animals are killed in the physical primes of their lives for food purposes. You produce dairy, not meat? Do you just let your spent cows lead natural lives, or do you send them to slaughter? For that matter...how do you get milk from them? Just whenever they happen to be pregnant, then when the calf is born you let it have the milk? Or do you artificially inseminate and take the calf away?
aggrajag2813 10 months ago
@aggrajag2813 I'm inherently abusing them?! Everything YOU do any and all day you are inherently abusing, torturing or destroying something. Everything you use or touch wasn't just there was it? It was made. Man built it or grew it. We were put on this earth, and we were told to rule over all animals. We were given living things to eat or do as we wish. Now don't get me wrong we shouldn't abuse them or hurt them. Must people don't. I don't and you don't, but sorry to say some sickos do.
rimdj 10 months ago
@rimdj Maybe you're a small-scale dairy farmer that's incredibly nice to all your cows. But if you send them to slaughter when they're spent, you're sending them to a place where people WILL torture them. I'm not just talking about the killing either. It's harder to find a slaughterhouse that doesn't abuse animals before the killing than one that does. And in separating a mother from a child so that you can consume the milk instead, you are abusing those cows. Imagine if it were your child.
aggrajag2813 10 months ago
@aggrajag2813 1. Ok so you see a few videos of a few people abusing a few cows, yeah thats very bad. Not all slaughterhouses abuse cows. They are killed instantly, they feel no pain. I have seen it in person. No I don't know what it feels like, but neither do you. I do know they are instantly dead. When was the last time you were actually in a beef house and not just seen a biased one moment in time kind of video to base your "facts" on?
rimdj 10 months ago
@aggrajag2813 2. My child is very different from a calf. My child is a human being created with a soul. A calf is an animal. A calf only cares about getting its milk, which it gets plenty of all the time. The mother cow never misses its calf. I have watched many cows that had just had their calf. They don't mourn or cry at all. I have seen it many times a day. The mother cow just wants to eat and get milked to relieve the pressure in her udder.
rimdj 10 months ago
@rimdj Well that's interesting. My uncle was a dairy farmer and the cows I saw ALWAYS went crazy when their calf was taken away. Maybe your cows are different.
aggrajag2813 10 months ago
@rimdj Well that's interesting. My uncle was a dairy farmer and the cows I saw ALWAYS went crazy when their calf was taken away. Maybe your cows are different.
aggrajag2813 10 months ago
@rimdj
1. You have yet to address this issue: When your cows are spent do you sell them to slaughter? How do you think they're treated there?
2. I'm not a religious person. Could you give a secular reason that humans are better than animals? From what I understand about Christianity, God gave man dominion over animals. Does that mean killing them, or taking care of them? Why should we expect mercy from the being with dominion over us when we kill those we have dominion over daily?
aggrajag2813 10 months ago
@aggrajag2813 Sorry, didn't see your first post. I've tried to visit slaughterhouses. They don't really let outsiders like me in. The only evidence I have is some videos and boos, which I'm sure are biased. However, assuming all slaughterhouses run in fully "humane" manners and animals die instantly...you're still killing a living, feeling being in the prime of its life. Less cruel? Certainly, but it's still pretty inhumane. Especially when the standard is to slit the animal's throat.
aggrajag2813 10 months ago
@aggrajag2813 Ok to clear one thing up: I know I'm not gonna convince you to become a Christian,but that's ok. I guess it wont hurt to try, but thats not really the issue. God gave us permission to rule over them. Yes that means to take care of them the best we can. God also gave us permission to kill and eat them, but not just any animal. Thats why there is Kosher food, but that has to do with the Old Testament. In the New Testament God gave us permission to eat some other animals as well.
rimdj 10 months ago
@aggrajag2813 now far a secular reason. We are just animals, more evolved and more intelligent. Before man would eat meat he would wander around, search and gather their food. He was always searching and looking for more food all day. The food he ate(veggies and fruit) was quickly turned into energy that he burned up looking for his next meal.Later man evolved and figured out that if he killed an animal and ate its muscle he filled his stomach quicker and had more energy from it. no more walking
rimdj 10 months ago
@rimdj and with that in mind, it has been studied and researched that man would have never evolved to the place we are. Cities, families, different jobs, and some other things would have never happened if we never ate meat. People would still be wandering around looking for nuts and berries to eat. If a guy only spent time looking for food he would never have time to have a family, or ever have time anything else. Man got together and tamed the animals that they can eat, built towns and lived.
rimdj 10 months ago
@rimdj The only reason people can now afford to be vegetarians and vegans is because just a small percentage of the civilized world like us farmers feed the very large population of every one else. If everyone did what all these vegans want, EVERYONE would have to be farmers again. what does that sound like? To me it sounds like third world countries. The richest people in third world countries are the ones with a few animals that they can feed their families with. Vegans want us to DEVOLVE.
rimdj 10 months ago
@rimdj I understand the evolutionary aspect of meat eating as it was beneficial to our survival and evolution. However, now that we're in a place with massive agricultural capabilities, it's no longer necessary to our survival or evolution. All nutrients our body needs can come from plant and bacteria sources. Being that that's the case, I see it as more ethical to choose to eat things which cannot suffer instead of things which can suffer.
aggrajag2813 10 months ago
@aggrajag2813 Cows do not suffer. They live comfortable happy lives. They are slaughtered not by cutting the throat but with a bolt to the brain killing them instantly and without pain. Studies have proven that when a cow is chewing its cud it is comfortable, content and happy. When you look at my cows they are eating sleeping or getting milked. When they lay down they chew their cud. The cows on our dairy are in no worse condition than they would be out in the wild. Probably better here.
rimdj 10 months ago
@rimdj There's also a difference between small-scale and large-scale ("factory") agriculture, though. Based on this discussion, I really think the cows on your farm probably ARE happy. That doesn't mean I would like to kill and eat them, though. And personally, I still wouldn't consume dairy even from a happy cow. I just don't see their milk as "for us," so to speak. Plus, I like the taste of almond milk better.
aggrajag2813 10 months ago
@aggrajag2813 What is your "definition" of a factory farm then? What qualifies one farm as a small farm and another as a factory farm? What is the true difference? If you saw one farm compared to another, would one be better or worse? Who is really to judge how some animals are treated? We protect them from the elements and from many different kinds of predators. Is that torture and suffering? And NOTHING beats an almost freezing glass of milk fresh from the cow milked only minutes ago.
rimdj 10 months ago
@rimdj "Factory farm" is kind of like the classic definition of pornography - "I know it when I see it." It still, though, isn't about the conditions themselves to me. I don't think it's ethically right to eat animals or the things that come from them, period, and I don't see how other people square it. No matter how well cows are otherwise treated, I find artificially impregnating them, taking their babies away, and then drinking the milk meant for their young to be ethically wrong.
aggrajag2813 10 months ago
@aggrajag2813 nothing wrong with that. I'm not an all out vegitarean or anything, but what they do to those poor animals is just not right.
1stLtRyan 8 months ago
@rimdj As for humane slaughter, I believe it's an oxymoron. But even if I believed in humane slaughter, the argument against it is similar to my argument against capital punishment. In capital punishment, if one innocent person is executed, it makes all tax payers murderers. In meat, if one slaughter is botched (and there's evidence that the number is much higher than one), it makes buying meat inhumane. Just my personal opinion.
aggrajag2813 10 months ago
@aggrajag2813 You are right it is an oxymoron. Humane slaughter does not exist, and I never said it does. But quick and painless slaughter is what happens everyday. Anything that anyone does for an animal "humanely" is also an oxymoron. Animals are animals, and should be treated like respected animals. They are not to be treated like humans. They are not equal to us.
rimdj 10 months ago
@rimdj The majority of grain production in the world goes not to feeding people but to feeding farmed animals. Eliminating animals from our diet wouldn't lead to the need for more farmers (or at least not to the point where everyone would have to be a farmer as you suggest), it would lead to more of the food that is already being farmed being consumed by people rather than feeding it to animals, then the animals to people. It's more like cutting out the middle man, in this case animals.
aggrajag2813 10 months ago
@rimdj As for the religious argument, I don't recall anywhere in the Bible God saying it's OK to eat animals. In Genesis 1:29-1:30 God says "I give you every seed-bearing plant on the face of the whole earth and every tree that has fruit with seed in it. They will be yours for food. And to all the beasts of the earth and all the birds of the air and all the creatures that move on the ground--everything that has the breath of life in it--I give every green plant for food." Animals are not present
aggrajag2813 10 months ago
@aggrajag2813 ok well I am glad you read your Bible, too bad you don't read it enough. Leviticus 11 talks about eating animals. Verse 3 especially: "You may eat any animal that has a split hoof completely divided and that chews the cud." That describes a cow pretty well I think.
rimdj 10 months ago
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@rimdj "We were put on this earth, and told to rule over all slaves. We bought living things to work or do as we wish. Don't get me wrong we shouldn't abuse them or hurt them. Must people don't. I don't and you don't, but sorry to say some sickos do."
"It's easy for us to criticize the prejudices of our grandfathers, from which our fathers freed themselves. It's more difficult to distance ourselves from our own views, so we can search for prejudices among the beliefs we hold." - Peter Singer
aggrajag2813 10 months ago
Sometimes I am surprised at the negative remarks by meat eaters, I fail to see that they approve of this cruel practice for 5 minutes of "pleasure ". eating meat has been linked to the holocaust but the only difference is that the victims are eaten. Is meat good for you? No. Do you need it? NO.There are enough videos on-line showing what happens in abattoirs..please go look before you form an opinion and just maybe you will not approve of this madness.
tdevry 1 year ago
at 2:28 the dude is clearly touching the bigs junk i guess he really loves animals
PerryMartinGreen420 1 year ago
I LOVE MEAT!
Jbomb8 1 year ago
@Jbomb8 go fuck!how black hearted can u b 2 see those things 'n' say u luv meat????
xR0ckBeatInT0ki0x 1 year ago
@xR0ckBeatInT0ki0x this is really ironic, because i commented on this a long time ago, and now ive been a raw foodest for about a month now
Jbomb8 1 year ago
Im sorry but to really get the truth you need to ask the source on any issue not the opposing party. Or at least let them argue their point.
imfarmraised 1 year ago
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imfarmraised 1 year ago
you peope who dont eat meat are pussies,theyre gonna die any way,we might as well eat them before they go bad
XxRofflecopterxX 1 year ago
amerlionne: I would like to see this research
dfholton 1 year ago
i dont care if farmsare humane or not, it is still cruel if you kill them for food, we are NOT meant to eat animals, regardless of our supposed superiority to them. The facts are clear and simple, meat and dairy causes most cancers and we are literally dying because of our vanity for it. There is no denying it , all the research supports it..
amerlionne 1 year ago
Exactly, thank you for making my point. Not all farms mistreat their animals. It is actually very rare. Mistreated cows do not make money. This video says you can slaughter downer cows, that is not true, the cow cannot even be limping if it is to be slaughtered. Cows are not "pumped full of antibiotics" it is used to prevent and treat diseases when needed. A cow can not be slaughtered if it has too much antibiotic in its system. Every drug has its length of time that it stays in the system
dfholton 1 year ago
Couldnt the reason that farmers are putting these animals in these environments is that we are suppose to feed not only America but the rest of the world too. Less than 2% of Americans still farm today. Not to mention increased need for land. People are all gunhoe to put up a shopping mall, yet when they see a PRODUCTIVE, WORKING FARM start up beside them, they want them to either move or get rid of the farm. When the world falls due to the lack of available food, dont blame the farmers!
jcmackey7 1 year ago
Lady your cows look yummy. Mmmmm l love me a steak. you cant cook the meat all the way, it still has to bleed when you cut into it.
erichitz79 2 years ago
Thats what i wish would happen that some of these people doing these interview would talk to someone from the other perspective. It seems like a betrail to americas most important business when people say they are switching to vegetarianism. It has been proven over and over again that the human body does not work as well without meat and dairy. you can't replace it. Thats why meat and dairy are on the food pyramid.
steer1300 2 years ago
I do dairy, but I get 98% of it from my own cow that I treat as a family member. My whole family does. We are all vegetarians. We are definately well fed, and we don't kill any animals.
suchandradasi 1 year ago
Well Steer 1300. You will never hear the other side of the debate on a issue like this. And heres why..., There crazy, But not crazy enough to understand that if the other side of the story is told there argument wouldn't be worth a damn
rancherjongus 1 year ago
i wish he would have talk to a farmer at one of those factory farms so we could get both viewpoints
imfarmraised 2 years ago
imfarmraised...I suggest you read EATING ANIMALS...It presents both sides of the argument and has sympathy for traditional farming where animal husbandry is practised, where farmers cared about their animals. Factory farms however are there to make their owners very rich and have no regard for anything, except profit. Those poor animals in those torture houses..thats all I can say.
v07m9s 2 years ago
@v07m9s Yeah but its not practical and the factory farm thing is much more extreme in the grain category not to mention that over 80% of all of these evil factory farms are owned by family's and aren't very wealthy. So have you ever really been to one of those evil farms if you did I think you would be surprised at the treatment at the "torture houses".
imfarmraised 1 year ago
We will be judged on how we treat them
gypsy43 2 years ago 10
damn right
CrazyNative4 2 years ago
Oh, i'm so glad these "experts" tell us how beef and dairy is treated. Growing up on a farm hasnt educated me at all as to how things really work. This video is bullshit
dfholton 2 years ago
@ dfholton I am sure you have a lot of wisdom growing up on a farm, but you haven't grown up on EVERY farm..... some are nice and some aren't!
suchandradasi 1 year ago
this is true. I'm sure that there are farms/ranches who mistreat there animals. But heres the thing all animal rights people have to understand. It's not easy getting a calf on the ground. There are literally thousands of things to think about with the cows, horse or the sheep's well being in mind. Trust me when I say. You screw up on one of the thousand's of factors. Your animal is not healthy. Poor health=poor return. farmers and ranchers with poor returns are not around too long.
rancherjongus 1 year ago
@rancherjongus I agree...and this new way of replying on youtube is kinda convienient, (I must add :-) Yeah, farms with sick animals can't profit too long. Yay
suchandradasi 1 year ago
You just want attention, you worthless shit. That's the only reason you keep responding to me.
Know this: I am the greatest thing in your life, because I make you think.
ecordy75 2 years ago
It's MY fucking right to believe whatever I want and fight for whatever laws that *I* want, because I know for an absolute fact that YOU vote for fucking fascist Democrats and Republicans every fucking single election simply because "it's your right to", regardless of the consequences. So, please throw gasoline on yourself and let others set you on fire.
Yeah, right, "I" am the one with "no purpose" - the one FIGHTING for just laws.
ecordy75 2 years ago
No, you are. And a mentally inferior subhuman. You think every soldier who kills is a psychopath, because you don't care about the REASONS for killing, because you obviously don't care about MY reasons. The ONLY thing you see is the word "killing" and that is the ONLY thing your shit brain responds to.
ecordy75 2 years ago
I'm joking only as much as judges do when they issue arrest warrants or the FBI or police are about their jobs.
ecordy75 2 years ago
Since 1983, I have been strongly advocating torturing and killing those who refuse to became vegan who have no excuse (e.g. they are not forced to eat meat because they are held hostage in prison or because of a serious medical problem - that sort of thing).
ecordy75 2 years ago
@ecordy75 you're really stupid arn't you?
Fatso1000100 2 years ago
Fatso10000 = FAILure
You really are a shithead. You must enjoy all the military dictatorships in the world because you advocate only bullshit peaceful means of ending their reigns of terror. Go live in Chile or Myanmar.
ecordy75 2 years ago
i'm an advocate of freedom of speech and i feel that i am pretty empathetic to many perspectives, but holy crap man are you serious? i also understand that it is easy to get carried away and post something that is rediculous just to make a point when your ego blinds you, but hooooooly crap dude! you discredit your cause!
sabo920 1 year ago
(directed to ecordy75's comment that he supports torturing and killingnon-vegans)
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5Starruk2 2 years ago
for ALLL you women out there, when we have babies sum of us have to breast feed. just imagine how Painful it would be to have to produce 10 times your natural milk flow.. thats what these female cows are having to do.. THATS FUCKED!
toxicsugar1 2 years ago
Thank you for this VIDEO. Its about time someone gave a damn and has done something wonderful...Thank you
MINDUNITY09 2 years ago
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MINDUNITY09 2 years ago
the problem is more that there are too many HUMANS.
Even if we let farmed animals back into 'the wild' and we all became vegetarian, we would either wipe out fish, or barren our lands and then starve ourselves, and probably the animals we saved.
We are omnivores. We eat meat and vegetation. We are at the top of the food chain. there are 6billion of us. therefore we hunt, and eat our prey. the issue is not the meat eating, it is how many meat eaters we have bred onto this little earth.
thegreatNEb 2 years ago
Fish are meat.
DarkBrawlRiver 2 years ago
While I do agree with on principle, I constantly find many who will debate this point for various reasons that have to do with the 'kind of meat' it is, the way it is processed by the body, and the nature of fish as creatures.
I think it is also quite clear that many of the people who protest factory farming and who call themselves vegetarian are in fact avid fish eaters and would be very turned off by the idea of giving up fish, and would continue to eat it even if we stopped factory farming
thegreatNEb 2 years ago
can they feel pain? What a stupid question.
Rivage1 2 years ago 2
This video is so in the wrong that words cannot express how biased and one sided the information is.
brysonfarmsmn 2 years ago
well if its "not possible"... you better not even try.
Better just do some good-old fashoned mudslinging.
AnimalTortureMustEnd 2 years ago
This video is the real shit - the animal holocaust must be stopped
Come to my page and see the EARTHLINGS documentary- the gritty shit
humans are monsters
AnimalTortureMustEnd 2 years ago 2
You and anyone else doesn't have to do anything!
Like many nutrition savvy people we make juices, smoothies and eat mostly "raw" foods by choice.
Mike Adams in the early part of the video is one of many who adhere to the raw food lifestyle.
garryk08 2 years ago
please teach lions and tigers not to eat meat.....they are really crazy they dont care about other animals and hyena is worst than all...i dont really like him....they are so cruel ....they have alot of fruit available to them but they still kill their mates just to get some meet ...how sick they are
ali198021 2 years ago
There is such a thing as organic(no antibiotics, no bovine growth hormones), grass feed, open range, and humanely raised cows!
youlance29 2 years ago
im nearly vegan i guess... some times when i feel like gettin' fancy i'll use raw honey in my smoothies. I feel great. meat & dairy & eggs (even organic) made me feel sickly. now im feeling great.
meg1241989 2 years ago
Cows are Vegetarians and have amazingly strong bones and body so eat grasses. Juice Wheatgrass for your B12!
Add fruit to enrich the flavor!!
Don't
garryk08 2 years ago
Yes but we aren't cows are digestive system and teeth are very different.
xxdiogenescynicxx 2 years ago
-xxdiogenescynicxx READ.. "Juice Wheatgrass" => means place in a blender with water. Hence "Juice" not chew!
garryk08 2 years ago
Why would I juice anything? Juicing removes alot of the fiber content in foods.
xxdiogenescynicxx 2 years ago
i like meat i dont care how it gets to me i demand it.
typeinbolivianbug 2 years ago
eat halal meat! No hormones. No abuse!
Lala82690 2 years ago
Lala82690, Halal meat = no abuse? You fucking kill them! How more abusive can you get?
TheSuperVegan 2 years ago
its called hunting. its natural. we are the top of the food chain. animals do it, we do it, we just do a lot more of it. Why? because we are probably the most populous predator on the planet.
This is of course leaving out certain insects, and sea creatures.
oh did I mention that we are on of the only predators to actually kill our prey BEFORE we eat it. thats much more than most prey get. don't live in a fantasy land, its human nature, and we get alot of good things from eating animals
thegreatNEb 2 years ago
@thegreatNEb Famine, floods, earthquakes are all natural but would you like to be in the middle of it? Probably not. So 'natural' doesn't mean 'good'.
You are NOT top of the food chain. Do you seriously believe no animal would kill and eat you?
No. Humans are NOT the most populus being on the planet.
Oh. So, humans don't eat live animals? Maybe you should visit East Asia!
I don't live in a fantasy. I don't eat animal products. That's reality.
marcluc1988 2 years ago
Physical strength is not the determining factor, domination is. We have dominated all of our natural predators and now we sit on top, and do pretty much as we please with the animal kingdom.
I said humans are the most populous PREDATOR on the planet, not being. (aside from some insects and sea creatures).
There may be some cultures that do eat live animals, but this doesn't take away from the point that humans eating other animals is as natural as other animals eating other animals
thegreatNEb 2 years ago
dude i will enjoy my fuckin burger.WHERE ARE YOU GONNA GET MEAT FROM HUH
RBFObscure 2 years ago
rbfobscure, your a dumbass."WHERE ARE YOU GONNA GET MEAT FROM HUH"
lol, do you talk like you type?
Knightofjustice1 2 years ago
RBF, I get all the meat I want. Nil.
TheSuperVegan 2 years ago
id like to get little lorri panties off and chew on her meat!!!
catman63879 2 years ago
Actually vegetarians live longer, healthier lives than meat eaters. I'm sick of this animal Auschwitz matrix we've been living in.
islakay 2 years ago 5
@islakay Complete nonsense. I'm not against your stand on meat. That's your decision. I just can't stand when people make categorical statements without anything to back it up.
There are three kinds of lies: There are lies, damned lies and statistics. - Benjamin Disraeli
shawakwak 1 year ago
@islakay Why live longer if you can't enjoy a nice steak that have been tenderly tortured for my pleasure?
Just4Th3Lulz 1 year ago
So I guess we can't take a tongue-in-cheek comment now can we? Personally, I think it's disgusting how some animals are raised. I think something should be done to make sure that the animals don't suffer. I'll stand by you on the fact that animals have been moved from fields to factories which is unhealthy for everyone. I like free-range food and buy it whenever possible. However, I don't think it's cruel to eat animals because everything eats everything that's how life exists.
bluewavecoast 2 years ago
Does every animal in nature die humanely? How humanely do lions kill their prey? How humanely does an alligator drown and rip apart the little critters that it eats? How humane are the combines that cut down all that corn that are planted in those inhumane rows? Everything in nature eats everything else...it's NATURE! Watch the Lion King, Mufasa explains everything.
bluewavecoast 2 years ago
I've never seen a lion trap its prey in a cage for its entire life and then ship their prey off to a slaughterhouse to have their throat cut while they hang upside down partially paralyzed.
Jesus, grow up, put away those Disney vids. :(
abrightside 2 years ago
but what you do see is a couple of lions ripping an animal away from its pack, and ripping it apart while it is still alive and feasting on it while it screams and bleeds to death, then they leave it to go off and do something else, while ANOTHER animal comes and munches on the still living half eaten remains.
Our way of hunting has been mechanized JUST LIKE EVERYTHING ELSE. Why are you only criticizing the hunt, which is perfectly natural. unlike cars, urbanization, most pollution, etcetcetc
thegreatNEb 2 years ago
@thegreatNEb I don't criticise the hunt but tell me, why do you hunt?
marcluc1988 2 years ago
When I refer to 'hunt' I am referring to the practice of Predators finding, killing, eating their prey.
In the 21st Century most humans 'hunt' by going to the supermarket. We in fact now breed our prey in captivity, so we don't have to go and fight with it like animals do in the wild.
The concept is the same, we just do it in more efficient way because there are so many mouths to feed
thegreatNEb 2 years ago
Don't trust anyone who wears a beret.
bluewavecoast 2 years ago
She is from Madison, WI - that explains it right there. Madison is full of ultra-libs with no common sense.
budfish41 2 years ago
Im a Vegan, and an independent constitutional true Conservative !
i voted for CHUCK BALDWIN nominee of the constitution Party
ACEBAKER911 2 years ago