What does drawing arbitrary tangent lines on a curve prove about the curvature of the text? Using Adobe Illustrator to do this provides some faux-gravitas, but I'm sorry, this doesn't hold water at all. I've worked professionally as a graphic designer for 10 years and this is just flat out wrong. Sorry guys.
To notice angle differences doesn't take to be a graphic designer, as to notice the difference between Beethoven's 5th and 9th symphony doesn't take to be a composer.
if you look at the white AP copy, you will find that the letters are cleaner and it will be easier to evaluate. the green copy has distorted lettering with all sorts of added pixels.
It would be nice to find out who handled these documents at the white house. Hearings will be required. I now count 6 BC's. Short with index number redacted, short with index number, short with medalion, short with creases, long in white with good detail, long in green with distorted characters.Wow!
Let me be clear, the only people that care about this are a few of the people that didn't vote for Obama, the people that did vote don't care where he was born. Your trying to remove a President that had the majority of the votes based on a technicality. I think anyone that try to subvert the democratic process to be very UN-American. If your not happy try and create change for the FUTURE elections or move to another country either way good luck
Umm who cares, the republicans don't care and they are the ones that should. You totally ignored the clear curvature of the words, how about you draw a line from the top of the first arm of the "K" no cause that shows the real curve. Someone like you should know you can't trust the approximation made at a pixel by pixel level. Most importantly where the heck were you when Bush was invading Iraq for having weapons of mass destruction? That's when a Presidential investigation actually mattered.
@twinsmagic - Can you prove the existence of a "higher power" (creator), or disprove it?
What a dumb thing this subject is. Why not work on issues that matter. Like keeping Medicare and Social Security in place for future generations? Raise the "cap" on both of those, and everyone wins. Even the wealthy who are spending more than it would COST THEM to fight it.
I think the other thing that's strange is that the "M" in "Male" doesn't line up with the "K" in "Kapiolani" and the letters in "Maternity" don't line up with the "X" in the box next to "Single" from a vertical perspective. These letters, were to be typed with a typewriter, so all letters get the same horizontal spacing - no half-spaces. So all typed letters should line up vertically from section to section. See sections 6a., 6c. and 7a. and you can see the typed letters all line up perfectly.
Haven't watched the video yet. I'm not really that good at photoshop so I'm definitely going to keep from pointing out suspicious parts of the document. My feelings as to why I doubt it's a real birth certificate is because of the time it took for him to release it. Why did it take so long? Other side of the coin: Why release it at the specific time he eventually released it. Timing is everything or so they say.
So many things don't add up and honestly haven't added up for years (even before
I just find it heartbreaking that so many things are happening and so many people just won't buy the argument. You doubt this bc or you doubt Obama caught OBL? You sure are a racist! I had fears even before Obama won that this was where we were heading at. Nothing negative can be said without the other person throwing down the race card and calling you a racist.
I'm not naive. I know racism/racists still exist. But imo I think you'd be able to tell a racist straight up
If you've been around a real racist, you'll know what I mean by that comment. You should be able to have legitimate questions and thoughts about your govt. Are we in a supposedly free country or are we in a cell-less prison?
Anyway, I'm gonna watch the video and I apologize for all the posts. I hate character limits on this site!
But here's something I wonder about. Surely they could find somebody that could do this bc and do such a flawless job that'd nobody'd be able to tell if it's real or fake. Why do such a half ass job if you're going to the trouble to fake something? It's insanity!
Everything going on now is adding up to one helluva spiderweb. You think you've seen all of the web and then you look closer and you see even more web links to stuff that doesn't add up/doesn't make sense.
@blackroses84 Americans voted for Obama didn't he? He became President despite that racism exists. This is not about racism, it's about fraud and eligibility. If what a black candidate ran for the office, who proved beyond a shadow of a doubt that he was a natural born citizen against a white candidate that there were questions about his birth, a person who never produced any documents and that person won and this kind of information came out later, people would be outraged & should be.
I'm afraid you misunderstood me. I don't care about the color of somebody's skin. I'm just saying that's what other people will say if you say anything negative about Obama. I'm agreeing that race shouldn't even be an issue. But unfortunately for some, it will be. That's what the bulk will be saying/thinking: "Oh, they just can't handle a black man as a President." Obama's shady crap needs to be out in the open. Just as any other shady crap from any other Pres should be out as well.
@blackroses84 ""Oh, they just can't handle a black man as a President." People VOTED for Obama because he promised change and hope and promised transparency in Government. People voted for him despite his race. It's not about race but the "race" card is taken out if you criticize or question him. Some people are questioning him - even black people are. I would question any president, regardless of race under the same circumstances.
And that's the way to be imo. There's so much shady crap going on in our govt and it's been going on for a long time. People should focus on actions and the behind the scenes stuff as well. They should point it out. They should question their President. Nobody should blindly accept what any President says imo. This birth certificate issue definitely needs to be talked about more and questioned openly. You have no argument from me out of that.
I was willing to take the BC at face value at first, but there are more problems with it than with Dan Rather's Bush documents. I can no longer rationally just believe what the Regime is spoon-feeding us.
This birth certificate is obviously fake as hell. Is there anything else they could have fake that we haven't noticed yet? What about the ridiculous fake live news broadcast 911? Even a child can see that this isn't a real live news broadcast - it is ridiculous:
watch?v=5iUXJXAPUUg
Fake as hell - and most people believe that their eyes are lying to them.
The original document was a probably a form that was typewriter printed on. So then later when you scan it you see a difference between the angles of the pre typed text and the inputs of data by typewriter? Im just trying to make sense of this like you are trying to make unsense of it. It can also be affected by where someone applied pressure with their hands to scan the document since it was bound in a book. 4 yrs production copy/scan tech and 2 years with image filing databases.
WHO CARES??? We know the banksters are going to corrupt the 'Fiat' Currancy, so what does it matter what goof ball is running the show. Bush / Obama are doing the sale fire sale on the american people. the Bushama Administration is going to continue our economic disaster!!!
Good work Ticker guy, info is always to know and I don't think you have put out a single video I haven't agreed with.
We need to prepare for disaster and get our houses in order. Gov is only going to make things worse!!
@Karl, don't take it personal but in order to prove anything you have o prove it AGAINST something else, a yardstick, i.e. try photocopying another or very similar birth certificate several times and compare your results. This is a scientific method that is applied in millions of investigations worldwide.
Since you had spent so much time on this analysis, it won't take you much time to go to a local library and make a few photocopies yourself.
The "Kapiolani" clearly curves down on the left. The red lines do not accurately reflect the curvature that is clearly apparent.
Look at the top of the "a", "p", and "i". Each one is successively higher. Then look at the bottoms of them. The bottom of the "a" is under the red line, and the bottom of the "i" is above the red line.
The upper right arm of the "K" is higher than the upper left, and the lower left arm of the "K" is lower than the lower right arm.
@Sinkh - Agreed. The red lines end at points well within where there is no curving effect, exaggerating the lack of slant greatly.; It's also true that at this level of Zoom, the software is making guesses as to where to place pixels. The width of the red lines themselves are misleading, as a valid straight-edge, given the level of zoom, they should be twice as thick. In short, this video doesn't prove a phony but does illustrate why a digital copy would never by used in a court of law.
@Sinkh - It's also funny that this video compares text from the typewriter directly with text that would have been on the form template placed in the typewriter. Expecting perfect alignment given that the font size and font type are different, and that the two pieces of text were added by two different physical elements is laughable, as is any forensic analysis on a low res scan of digital copy of a document.
I could have created this entire document in a matter of hours and I'm no pro by any means... I knew this was crap the moment I saw it... Glad someone is taking the time to expose it for what it is...
What kind of institution wouldn't have the originals?
Why did they even bother with making a template? Its much more professional just to make your own template so its neater, cleaner, and easier to manipulate.
@MrStephenRBrown Keep drinking the kool aid as Obama Administration finishes the US off once and for all.
Becasue that is what is about to happen if we make it to the 2012 elections. If we do 4 more years of Obama will definitely be the end of America and you can bet your bottom dollar we will have a WW3.
Thanks for getting this issue going again. The OSAMA fabrication was an obvious BROKEN ARROW move timed to bolster Obama whose Presidency was being over-run with issues one of which was the fake newly released Birth Certificate....it bought them a couple of weeks.....lets get back on him.....and the Debt...The Debt ceiling, and all the illegal unconstitutional wars.
americans and for that matter, the rest of the world, care little about this.. personally i think it is sad that they do not care they have been duped.. obama is a puppet, nothing more, nothing less.
We are supposedly dealing with a document that started as a form, was typed on, stored for years, digitally scanned with possible unknown enhancement/corrective technologies used, sent mainland, digitally scanned again with possible unknown enhancement/corrective technologies used, and then posted online. Trying to analyse the end result for authenticity based on minor appearance quirks is kind of a nonstarter. The original is needed for that.
doh (wording correction) One cannot prove the long form is legit via digital image alone, however this video certainly doesn't prove its fake. Not so long as entries from two different physical elements are compared.
As for the larger word "Kapiolani", it's easy to tell it is curving in the beginning of it. Not quite the same as the "Name of Hospital" wording, but again, "Name of Hospital" was on the form template and Kapoilani was typed in by the hospital clerk using an imperfect typewriter.
One cannot prove the long form is legit via digital image alone, however this video certainly doesn't prove its fake. Not so long entries from two different physical elements are compared: This video stands refuted
OK, here's the thing. The video compares the alignment of the word "Sex" and the word "Male". But "Sex" was part of the form template placed into the typewriter and the word "Male" was typed by the hospital clerk. There's no reason to think the two would be in perfect alignment as they were added by two different physical elements. Perfect alignment would actually be more indicative of a forgery.
Okay, this more convincing. I'm quite willing to accept that Obama is illegally the US President, but it does need strong facts to support such a serious allegation. I have never been an Obama fan, quite the opposite, but I do not automatically accept anti-Obama opinions. Let's hope the truth prevails.
You can even forget all this in the video, just look at the green lines in the background- they are perfectly straight even though the page was supposedly bent. Hmm...
The document itself is the smoking gun. But.... its good to have more evidence than taking 2 1/2 years to produce a document that should have been presented back in the primary election and failed to be enforce by congress.
From my perspective the plan with the whole birth certificate thing all along was to let it marinate on conspiracy theory talk radio until an opportune time and then release it. Consequently it unleashed havoc on any poor soul in politics that took the bait. Made Donald trump and other conspiracy theory types look like fools. With government mega bux the thing is a perfect fake at worst and a perfect fake is as good as real. There goes me any my theories.........
Clearly a secret team of Republicans created miniature black holes that distorted the text in a way that made it APPEAR straight at the moment the scanning took place. If you can't understand that, then there's clearly something wrong with your head or you're probably just some crazy conspiracy theorist. Duh.
Karl, it's clear from your own video that what you're saying is completely untrue.
Look at the top of the first a in Kapiolani, versus the top of the second one. The first is CLEARLY lower.
Both the M in Male and the K in Kapiolani have their left lower than the right at BOTH top AND bottom. There are 4 other legible examples of EACH of these letters elsewhere, and NONE of them show this characteristic.
It's getting difficult for me to believe this disinformation isn't deliberate.
Obama did not acquire the Office or presidency ALONE. People, other Congressman and Senators were involved in bringing Obama to office. And to bring down Obama, will also bring down all these other lawmakers. I do not see that happening. We have a corrupt gov. who do not care about the Const.
@Drav1212 Right, for example the Indiana Judge who basically ruled that any federal or state agency who wants access to your home, even without a warrant, is authorized to enter your home. Forget about the 4th amendment. What the hell happened to America?
to be more accurate the judge ruled that the home owner does not have a right to oppose, the unlawful invasion, and that his only recourse will be to file a legal complaint for redress the unlawful entry.
We all know its fake. But what are we suppose to do? We have a White House and Obama joinged together in this conspiracy. We have a CIA, NSA, FBI who are loyal to the Obama Administration. So, what can we do? NOTHING...
This is really absurd. There already is a black line under the word showing the curvature of the page, where the letters begin, the line becomes almost flat. The fact that your imaginary red line is not parallel to the black line is proof positive that whoever made this video is full of shit.
@Fray2221 The red line is a trend line showing the path that all letters and lines should follow if the paper is legit. It is not. Evidence is often ignored in this country so I undertsand your opinion.
Karl, my question is why the WH would release something that is obviously faked. I fully believe they purposely released this document in this condition. This whole thing stinks to hell and back.
Trump comes out with the tough talk about the BC and then they release this garbage and then dig up Bin Laden then Trump quits. We are being played and the questions is why. I don't believe for a second that the WH is this stupid. I just hope shit ain't getting ready to start blowing up!
The original fields were printed earlier, the fill in's after, they wouldn't have the same line up, right? The fill in parts would have been put in by a typewriter. What about the word male, why is the top of the l pix elated?
What does drawing arbitrary tangent lines on a curve prove about the curvature of the text? Using Adobe Illustrator to do this provides some faux-gravitas, but I'm sorry, this doesn't hold water at all. I've worked professionally as a graphic designer for 10 years and this is just flat out wrong. Sorry guys.
chromixmusic 8 months ago
@chromixmusic
Those are NOT "arbitrary" lines.
To notice angle differences doesn't take to be a graphic designer, as to notice the difference between Beethoven's 5th and 9th symphony doesn't take to be a composer.
aaxxes 7 months ago 2
if you look at the white AP copy, you will find that the letters are cleaner and it will be easier to evaluate. the green copy has distorted lettering with all sorts of added pixels.
It would be nice to find out who handled these documents at the white house. Hearings will be required. I now count 6 BC's. Short with index number redacted, short with index number, short with medalion, short with creases, long in white with good detail, long in green with distorted characters.Wow!
sfw010 8 months ago
Were you present when they made the B/C? Nope
Do you know what processes were used? Nope
Do you know that a signed and sealed piece of paper creates a binding legal instrument? Nope
It doesn't matter what process they used or if they had to make corrections for anomalies it is still a legal B/C. Sorry about your luck.
YTRedActed 8 months ago
Let me be clear, the only people that care about this are a few of the people that didn't vote for Obama, the people that did vote don't care where he was born. Your trying to remove a President that had the majority of the votes based on a technicality. I think anyone that try to subvert the democratic process to be very UN-American. If your not happy try and create change for the FUTURE elections or move to another country either way good luck
darkbunglex 8 months ago
Umm who cares, the republicans don't care and they are the ones that should. You totally ignored the clear curvature of the words, how about you draw a line from the top of the first arm of the "K" no cause that shows the real curve. Someone like you should know you can't trust the approximation made at a pixel by pixel level. Most importantly where the heck were you when Bush was invading Iraq for having weapons of mass destruction? That's when a Presidential investigation actually mattered.
darkbunglex 8 months ago
obviously this is bushes fault like all of the other problems no-bama has had. he must of inherited this as well.
this is scarcasim i dislike both puppets in chief. nice work karl.
upshot13 9 months ago
the problem is that you can show a REAL document to a conspiracist telling him that it is fake and he will demonstrate you that it is indeed a fake...
Ticker Guy, stop spending your time on this insane issue and do what you are good at
Melpheos1er 9 months ago
@Melpheos1er can you prove it's real?
twinsmagic 9 months ago
@twinsmagic - Can you prove the existence of a "higher power" (creator), or disprove it?
What a dumb thing this subject is. Why not work on issues that matter. Like keeping Medicare and Social Security in place for future generations? Raise the "cap" on both of those, and everyone wins. Even the wealthy who are spending more than it would COST THEM to fight it.
GrogMyzer 8 months ago
@BoemermannPhoto He is wrong on this but he is not a racist...
Melpheos1er 9 months ago
I think the other thing that's strange is that the "M" in "Male" doesn't line up with the "K" in "Kapiolani" and the letters in "Maternity" don't line up with the "X" in the box next to "Single" from a vertical perspective. These letters, were to be typed with a typewriter, so all letters get the same horizontal spacing - no half-spaces. So all typed letters should line up vertically from section to section. See sections 6a., 6c. and 7a. and you can see the typed letters all line up perfectly.
conservativecanuck 9 months ago
Haven't watched the video yet. I'm not really that good at photoshop so I'm definitely going to keep from pointing out suspicious parts of the document. My feelings as to why I doubt it's a real birth certificate is because of the time it took for him to release it. Why did it take so long? Other side of the coin: Why release it at the specific time he eventually released it. Timing is everything or so they say.
So many things don't add up and honestly haven't added up for years (even before
blackroses84 9 months ago
Obama became President)
I just find it heartbreaking that so many things are happening and so many people just won't buy the argument. You doubt this bc or you doubt Obama caught OBL? You sure are a racist! I had fears even before Obama won that this was where we were heading at. Nothing negative can be said without the other person throwing down the race card and calling you a racist.
I'm not naive. I know racism/racists still exist. But imo I think you'd be able to tell a racist straight up
blackroses84 9 months ago
If you've been around a real racist, you'll know what I mean by that comment. You should be able to have legitimate questions and thoughts about your govt. Are we in a supposedly free country or are we in a cell-less prison?
Anyway, I'm gonna watch the video and I apologize for all the posts. I hate character limits on this site!
blackroses84 9 months ago
Interesting video.
But here's something I wonder about. Surely they could find somebody that could do this bc and do such a flawless job that'd nobody'd be able to tell if it's real or fake. Why do such a half ass job if you're going to the trouble to fake something? It's insanity!
Everything going on now is adding up to one helluva spiderweb. You think you've seen all of the web and then you look closer and you see even more web links to stuff that doesn't add up/doesn't make sense.
blackroses84 9 months ago
@blackroses84 Americans voted for Obama didn't he? He became President despite that racism exists. This is not about racism, it's about fraud and eligibility. If what a black candidate ran for the office, who proved beyond a shadow of a doubt that he was a natural born citizen against a white candidate that there were questions about his birth, a person who never produced any documents and that person won and this kind of information came out later, people would be outraged & should be.
reinharv 9 months ago
@reinharv
I'm afraid you misunderstood me. I don't care about the color of somebody's skin. I'm just saying that's what other people will say if you say anything negative about Obama. I'm agreeing that race shouldn't even be an issue. But unfortunately for some, it will be. That's what the bulk will be saying/thinking: "Oh, they just can't handle a black man as a President." Obama's shady crap needs to be out in the open. Just as any other shady crap from any other Pres should be out as well.
blackroses84 9 months ago
@blackroses84 ""Oh, they just can't handle a black man as a President." People VOTED for Obama because he promised change and hope and promised transparency in Government. People voted for him despite his race. It's not about race but the "race" card is taken out if you criticize or question him. Some people are questioning him - even black people are. I would question any president, regardless of race under the same circumstances.
reinharv 9 months ago
@reinharv
And that's the way to be imo. There's so much shady crap going on in our govt and it's been going on for a long time. People should focus on actions and the behind the scenes stuff as well. They should point it out. They should question their President. Nobody should blindly accept what any President says imo. This birth certificate issue definitely needs to be talked about more and questioned openly. You have no argument from me out of that.
blackroses84 9 months ago
Excellent expose. plus Trump was just a strawman.
foxxx2001 9 months ago
I think the claim that Obama is 'Male' is evidence enough that this certificate is a forgery lol
LoudCitizen 9 months ago 2
I was willing to take the BC at face value at first, but there are more problems with it than with Dan Rather's Bush documents. I can no longer rationally just believe what the Regime is spoon-feeding us.
bossmanham 9 months ago 3
This birth certificate is obviously fake as hell. Is there anything else they could have fake that we haven't noticed yet? What about the ridiculous fake live news broadcast 911? Even a child can see that this isn't a real live news broadcast - it is ridiculous:
watch?v=5iUXJXAPUUg
Fake as hell - and most people believe that their eyes are lying to them.
elbuggo 9 months ago
wow great video.
blt40 9 months ago
mayb u should hav a canadian 4 your prez...they would do a better job.
chadberry75 9 months ago 2
The original document was a probably a form that was typewriter printed on. So then later when you scan it you see a difference between the angles of the pre typed text and the inputs of data by typewriter? Im just trying to make sense of this like you are trying to make unsense of it. It can also be affected by where someone applied pressure with their hands to scan the document since it was bound in a book. 4 yrs production copy/scan tech and 2 years with image filing databases.
SamuraiCommando 9 months ago
WHO CARES??? We know the banksters are going to corrupt the 'Fiat' Currancy, so what does it matter what goof ball is running the show. Bush / Obama are doing the sale fire sale on the american people. the Bushama Administration is going to continue our economic disaster!!!
Good work Ticker guy, info is always to know and I don't think you have put out a single video I haven't agreed with.
We need to prepare for disaster and get our houses in order. Gov is only going to make things worse!!
toshibavoodoo 9 months ago 2
Apparently all this BC stuff is helping President Obama raise money for reelection:
Google: "Obama Birth Certificate coffee mug"
Looks like all this hoopla will help get him reelected.
napkatz 9 months ago
@napkatz I just saw the donation page...that is just sick...
bullonay 9 months ago
@Karl, don't take it personal but in order to prove anything you have o prove it AGAINST something else, a yardstick, i.e. try photocopying another or very similar birth certificate several times and compare your results. This is a scientific method that is applied in millions of investigations worldwide.
Since you had spent so much time on this analysis, it won't take you much time to go to a local library and make a few photocopies yourself.
Peace.
WayAboveYou700 9 months ago
The "Kapiolani" clearly curves down on the left. The red lines do not accurately reflect the curvature that is clearly apparent.
Look at the top of the "a", "p", and "i". Each one is successively higher. Then look at the bottoms of them. The bottom of the "a" is under the red line, and the bottom of the "i" is above the red line.
The upper right arm of the "K" is higher than the upper left, and the lower left arm of the "K" is lower than the lower right arm.
Sinkh 9 months ago
@Sinkh - Agreed. The red lines end at points well within where there is no curving effect, exaggerating the lack of slant greatly.; It's also true that at this level of Zoom, the software is making guesses as to where to place pixels. The width of the red lines themselves are misleading, as a valid straight-edge, given the level of zoom, they should be twice as thick. In short, this video doesn't prove a phony but does illustrate why a digital copy would never by used in a court of law.
napkatz 9 months ago
@Sinkh - It's also funny that this video compares text from the typewriter directly with text that would have been on the form template placed in the typewriter. Expecting perfect alignment given that the font size and font type are different, and that the two pieces of text were added by two different physical elements is laughable, as is any forensic analysis on a low res scan of digital copy of a document.
napkatz 9 months ago
@Sinkh - Adding to the hilarity is that the red lines that are supposedly the guides aren't lined up with the black lines :)
napkatz 9 months ago
Barack is actually Elvis, you know. But isn't that cool, having Elvis as President?
cmpilot 9 months ago
I could have created this entire document in a matter of hours and I'm no pro by any means... I knew this was crap the moment I saw it... Glad someone is taking the time to expose it for what it is...
scotrinaf 9 months ago 2
@MrStephenRBrown
What kind of institution wouldn't have the originals?
Why did they even bother with making a template? Its much more professional just to make your own template so its neater, cleaner, and easier to manipulate.
KurzLuppii 9 months ago
@MrStephenRBrown Keep drinking the kool aid as Obama Administration finishes the US off once and for all.
Becasue that is what is about to happen if we make it to the 2012 elections. If we do 4 more years of Obama will definitely be the end of America and you can bet your bottom dollar we will have a WW3.
jonah70757 9 months ago
@jonah70757 We are already in the beginning stages of WW3. The sheeple won't want to believe that neither.
lnsk 9 months ago 2
Thanks for getting this issue going again. The OSAMA fabrication was an obvious BROKEN ARROW move timed to bolster Obama whose Presidency was being over-run with issues one of which was the fake newly released Birth Certificate....it bought them a couple of weeks.....lets get back on him.....and the Debt...The Debt ceiling, and all the illegal unconstitutional wars.
jonah70757 9 months ago
Guns, Gold, and Food!
Jimjammajay 9 months ago
Great work as usual Karl. Thanks.
Skywitness 9 months ago
watch?v=hqNBBgwNTMc
safeinsuburbia 9 months ago
TickerGuy = fearless truth seeker ... patriot, american, hero... well done, my friend!
rtardbox 9 months ago
One more lie from government.
Which ones will kill us?
mcgrawtim123 9 months ago
@mcgrawtim123 Which ones will kill us? The last one!
freekylovejoy 9 months ago
Nice job, Karl.
wifiwaves 9 months ago
americans and for that matter, the rest of the world, care little about this.. personally i think it is sad that they do not care they have been duped.. obama is a puppet, nothing more, nothing less.
navtel 9 months ago
We are supposedly dealing with a document that started as a form, was typed on, stored for years, digitally scanned with possible unknown enhancement/corrective technologies used, sent mainland, digitally scanned again with possible unknown enhancement/corrective technologies used, and then posted online. Trying to analyse the end result for authenticity based on minor appearance quirks is kind of a nonstarter. The original is needed for that.
napkatz 9 months ago
doh (wording correction) One cannot prove the long form is legit via digital image alone, however this video certainly doesn't prove its fake. Not so long as entries from two different physical elements are compared.
napkatz 9 months ago
THE FEDERAL MAFIA STRIKES AGAIN! What can we do? Like it or lump it.
xmenrus 9 months ago 3
As for the larger word "Kapiolani", it's easy to tell it is curving in the beginning of it. Not quite the same as the "Name of Hospital" wording, but again, "Name of Hospital" was on the form template and Kapoilani was typed in by the hospital clerk using an imperfect typewriter.
One cannot prove the long form is legit via digital image alone, however this video certainly doesn't prove its fake. Not so long entries from two different physical elements are compared: This video stands refuted
napkatz 9 months ago
This has been flagged as spam show
OK, here's the thing. The video compares the alignment of the word "Sex" and the word "Male". But "Sex" was part of the form template placed into the typewriter and the word "Male" was typed by the hospital clerk. There's no reason to think the two would be in perfect alignment as they were added by two different physical elements. Perfect alignment would actually be more indicative of a forgery.
napkatz 9 months ago
Watch the video about kerning. More proof of a forgery.
TonyUnplugged 9 months ago 2
Okay, this more convincing. I'm quite willing to accept that Obama is illegally the US President, but it does need strong facts to support such a serious allegation. I have never been an Obama fan, quite the opposite, but I do not automatically accept anti-Obama opinions. Let's hope the truth prevails.
waldentree 9 months ago
@waldentree "this is* more convincing"
waldentree 9 months ago
You can even forget all this in the video, just look at the green lines in the background- they are perfectly straight even though the page was supposedly bent. Hmm...
alphabeets 9 months ago
Yea, the doc is a fake... So what? It's like the debate over the existence of god. It's of zero meaning and consequence.
JesusSatanAllah 9 months ago
The whole corrupt US government from top to bottom is the greatest criminal organization in the world.
UU361 9 months ago 2
Zero the Usurper needs to be thrown out of office on his mack daddy arse.
SuperSuperGenius 9 months ago
Two new classification of names will come forth from this discovery.
Curvers
Benders
Anothercoilgun 9 months ago
The document itself is the smoking gun. But.... its good to have more evidence than taking 2 1/2 years to produce a document that should have been presented back in the primary election and failed to be enforce by congress.
Anothercoilgun 9 months ago
From my perspective the plan with the whole birth certificate thing all along was to let it marinate on conspiracy theory talk radio until an opportune time and then release it. Consequently it unleashed havoc on any poor soul in politics that took the bait. Made Donald trump and other conspiracy theory types look like fools. With government mega bux the thing is a perfect fake at worst and a perfect fake is as good as real. There goes me any my theories.........
dx11101 9 months ago
Clearly a secret team of Republicans created miniature black holes that distorted the text in a way that made it APPEAR straight at the moment the scanning took place. If you can't understand that, then there's clearly something wrong with your head or you're probably just some crazy conspiracy theorist. Duh.
TheAntarcticEmperor 9 months ago
Karl, it's clear from your own video that what you're saying is completely untrue.
Look at the top of the first a in Kapiolani, versus the top of the second one. The first is CLEARLY lower.
Both the M in Male and the K in Kapiolani have their left lower than the right at BOTH top AND bottom. There are 4 other legible examples of EACH of these letters elsewhere, and NONE of them show this characteristic.
It's getting difficult for me to believe this disinformation isn't deliberate.
springfieldcompguy 9 months ago
Obama did not acquire the Office or presidency ALONE. People, other Congressman and Senators were involved in bringing Obama to office. And to bring down Obama, will also bring down all these other lawmakers. I do not see that happening. We have a corrupt gov. who do not care about the Const.
Drav1212 9 months ago 21
@Drav1212 Right, for example the Indiana Judge who basically ruled that any federal or state agency who wants access to your home, even without a warrant, is authorized to enter your home. Forget about the 4th amendment. What the hell happened to America?
puapake 9 months ago
to be more accurate the judge ruled that the home owner does not have a right to oppose, the unlawful invasion, and that his only recourse will be to file a legal complaint for redress the unlawful entry.
Drav1212 9 months ago
@puapake You see there is not enough legal cases clogging the court system as it is.
Drav1212 9 months ago
NIce Kerling too
Drav1212 9 months ago
We all know its fake. But what are we suppose to do? We have a White House and Obama joinged together in this conspiracy. We have a CIA, NSA, FBI who are loyal to the Obama Administration. So, what can we do? NOTHING...
Drav1212 9 months ago 3
I far prefer your insights on the economy.
zeusvalentine 9 months ago
This is really absurd. There already is a black line under the word showing the curvature of the page, where the letters begin, the line becomes almost flat. The fact that your imaginary red line is not parallel to the black line is proof positive that whoever made this video is full of shit.
Fray2221 9 months ago
@Fray2221 The red line is a trend line showing the path that all letters and lines should follow if the paper is legit. It is not. Evidence is often ignored in this country so I undertsand your opinion.
BendoverBernanke 9 months ago
@Fray2221
Even in the face of evidence your kind refuse to face reality. I feel so sorry for your kind.
Anothercoilgun 9 months ago
Karl, my question is why the WH would release something that is obviously faked. I fully believe they purposely released this document in this condition. This whole thing stinks to hell and back.
Trump comes out with the tough talk about the BC and then they release this garbage and then dig up Bin Laden then Trump quits. We are being played and the questions is why. I don't believe for a second that the WH is this stupid. I just hope shit ain't getting ready to start blowing up!
Survival4theFamily 9 months ago 3
@Survival4theFamily
Have you been paying attention to world affairs for the past decade?
Anothercoilgun 9 months ago
I DOUBT NOTHING, OBAMA IS A MONSTER
homertalk 9 months ago 2
♥ Go Ron Paul ♥
Did you know he delivered THREE THOUSAND babies?
wcarlpdrysdale 9 months ago
Ron Paul will release the whole record and more when he becomes President.
elbuggo 9 months ago
@elbuggo and I will not touch any woman if they appear naked in any future dream
Silberhorter 9 months ago
@elbuggo If only he would run for president.
dgmoocher 9 months ago
The original fields were printed earlier, the fill in's after, they wouldn't have the same line up, right? The fill in parts would have been put in by a typewriter. What about the word male, why is the top of the l pix elated?
CanadianPatriot1973 9 months ago
american people deserve to be put in concentration camps for ignoring this
excaliburdd 9 months ago 24
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@excaliburdd - They will be. It's just a matter of time.........
dink65 9 months ago
@excaliburdd And that's exactly what they are going to get from FEMA for being dumb sheeple.
nesNYC 9 months ago 2