Pence: "Deny Any and All Funding to Planned Parenthood"

[z4i4]

Pence, you fucking cunt, quit trying to strip the personal rights of women.

[Nulono]

Planned Parenthood sued to prevent citizens from excercizing their right to petition the government. They tried to prevent an amendment from even going to the ballot. Literally the whole amendment was "In the great state of Nevada, the term 'person' applies to every human being.".

And we're expected to fund them?

[Missylisa517]

Planned parenthood provides many other useful services other an abortions. So is that all useless? Any organization that murders a human life shouldn't be funded by tax dollars. OK. Then we can also stop funding prisons b/c although they keep criminals isolated, there is the death penalty. It's better not to fund it, just let system fail and every criminal go free...Do we see how this could be problematic? If tax dollars are distributed by what SOME deem moral we sacrifice functionality!!

[Nulono]

@Missylisa517 Prisons don't usually try to kill their prisoners. Would you donate to a group that fed the homeless, but also killed thousands of born people every year?

[karie411]

Pay for your own abortions! I was 18, unmarried and broke. I chose life. I got 2 jobs,went to college full time and bettered my life without ever being on welfare. There is no excuse! PP needs to stop lying!!

[cmccaable]

Good Work!! Rep.Mike Pence

The usa is FUNDING this MURDER so what is the usa?; a MURDER!!!!!

What a country.no comment.

Pastor David Skakun

[raganmd]

I understand the sentiment here, but I would prefer that my taxes didn't fund the planned taking of lives in other countries. Sadly, sometimes our tax dollars support causes that we don't agree with.

[53dumey]

I Agree with Mike .

DEFUND PPH

[Serge1965]

@MrXvX83 but rather came to save those who knew they needed a doctor, and as the Greatest Physician that Christ is, He sure won't ask the sick to bend over backwards to please Him but He will rather give them the care they need before asking them to simply rest in Him to then feed them and putting them back on their feet. You are not my enemy friend, you and i have a common enemy though. I believe in the sacredness of life that Christ as God Almighty gave us and i believe your life is sacred too

[Serge1965]

@MrXvX83 In more simple terms, you do not have to be perfect to be saved nor to perform anything, you do not even have to lift up a finger for it is not about deeds but about entrusting Someone with the destiny of your eternal soul for it is written: For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved.(Romans 10:13) Christ has made it that easy to be saved all that is required is to acknowledge Him as Lord with sincerity, He did not come to save those who could save themselves

[Serge1965]

@MrXvX83 You know, you’re probably the hardest person on yourself right now, Christ would surely be more gentle on you than you are on yourself, He came to earth to save which was lost and i can assure you that i am no better than anyone else, i am a sinner still to this day but a sinner saved by His Grace. That means that i still sin and that the repentance that was asked of me was to turn from my wilful unbelief and denial and not just to believe IN Christ but to believe Christ personally

[mstngs351]

If Pro Lifers really want to stop abortions then maybe they should work on getting all Pro life groups (mainly churches) to actually start doing something that will make a difference in the number of unwanted/expected pregnancies and push for real sex ed. Preaching abstinence as the only way is a self righteous, ignorant and unhelpful practice. It's time to start teaching instead of just preaching. There are far to many people in this world already...

[Serge1965]

@MrXvX83 a Faith based walk, evidenced that He 1- exists and 2- manifests Himself to those who truly seek Him and 3-, answers to prayers done in FAITH. Human beings throughout centuries have made Christianity a religion, that is undeniable but Christ Himself is not a religion, He is God and is independant of the religiosities that man has created, those who perpetrated violence in the Name of Christ did not know Christ personally because He said to turn the other cheek and to love our enemies

[Serge1965]

@MrXvX83 Atheism is recognized by the state of wisconsin to be the religion of the convicts (source WND) and secular humanism is a religion as declared de facto, black on white, in the humanist manifesto. Christendom at large has many religious denominations but religion was not intended by Christ when one carefully reads the Bible and understands the full spectrum, what Christ intended was that every person He created would come to know Him in a personal relationship, it is rather cted

[melofshanoah01]

Abby Johnson, former director of PP clinic of Bryan, TX, explains that technically, federal funds cannot be used for abortions, but it can be--and is--used for the same rent, supplies, and personnel, so very little relating to abortion is not paid for with federal funds.

With Pres. Obama being the most pro-choice pres in history, Sen. Cornyn states they don't expect it to pass--they expect a veto. They're just making a point about what the American people want and about the evil of PP.

[smloos]

Planned Parenthood originated in 1916 when Margaret Sanger, already a nationally known birth control advocate, opened the first US birth control clinic. It resulted in her being jailed.

Federal funding has not been available for abortions for 30 years. Rep Pence cannot, as he claims, be calling for the end of funding for abortions. He intends only to eliminate Planned Parenthood, a nonprofit organization that provides sex education, contraceptives..., for millions of women who need it the most.

[Serge1965]

@MrXvX83 believe but about Who we know and follow and believe when He speaks, religion is when you have an obstacle between you and the One True God, either a priest that you follow or your own unbelief which turns atheism and agnosticism and secular humanism into religions that are recognized as such

[iampotts02]

@msm318 why becuase i support pp?? abortion is not illegal they are giving women there rights! they do lots of good stuff for women and babies! pp isnt doing anything wrong!

[LolaOrozco]

Using Mr. Pence's logic of "why do tax payer's have to pay for someone to have an abortion?" I say great! Now let's get the tax payer's of the hook for paying for illegals to have federally funded ANYTHING!!!!!! Why do American tax payer's have to fund illegals having baby after baby, food stamps, medical care, housing etc.? Seems like Planned Parenthood should be the least of their concerns about where tax dollars go!

[Serge1965]

@LolaOrozco , i do, i have been studying the Word of God for the last 4 years and i was not left disappointed even once, Fith actually means to trust based on experience which is logical and repeatedly observed, for instance, the Christian Faith is backed by so much evidence that many atheists who decided to investigate it honestly bowed their knees to God for the evidence was just overwhelming. True Christianity is not a Religion but a personal relationship, it is not about what we cted

[Serge1965]

@MrXvX83 Well, i have been reading the Bible and studying the Bible for the last 4 years and the passage you quoted is not from the Bible so verify what books you read and if your quote is from any kind of version, it is a corrupted Bible not even worth mentioning. Sickness and diseases are the result of man's disobedience that brought a curse on the earth, we are living in a sin cursed world, it was not part of His plan, it is we that blew it, and are reaping what we sowed...

[Serge1965]

@MrXvX83 Your quote is surely from a gnostic uninspired gospel and not from the Bible, and shows where your deceived mind is at, you show dishonesty and that your ways are typically the same of the ways of those who are perishing, ask the Lord to forgive your sins today and He will

[Serge1965]

@MrXvX83 Well, you obviously trust your brain cells even if you believe that we evolved from slime, sure tells me much...i must be dreaming, not everybody who proclaims to be Christians are you know, take the KKK, they say they are christians but are in a cult and do not have a personal relationship with Jesus Christ, the problem is not Christ, the problem is deceived human minds that follow deceived human minds instead of believing God Himself, and you boast about being intelligent?

[Serge1965]

if you find your pleasure in life that way, i simply prefer dignity over what you prefer, my authority comes from the Most High, if your authority is yourself, i can understand that morals can thus be stuck in material relativism...Actually, i am against abortion because, rationally, the design in the cell indicates that the Body belongs to the One Who designed it, i am not superior to anybody, i am just a sinner like everybody else, i won't judge the lady who kills but God will

[Serge1965]

@MrXvX83 You are in error, people did indeed commit evil acts in the name of Christianity but they surely did not KNOW my God personnaly who says not to kill and to turn the other cheek and Who is proven Scriptually, in secular texts, in archeology and in all fields of real empirical science, if u think you're an animal, fine for you, i was created in the image of a HOLY GOD to have dominion over the animals...and i try to put in practice what Christ taught me, you can live as an animal if cted

[Serge1965]

@MrXvX83 I trust more in God than man, man has repeatedly been a wolf to man in history and planned parenthood is the result of Applied Eugenics principles of mass depopulation which the NWO is all about so i guess their tactics of mind control have worked flawlessly in modern societies, people now think we are evolved animals and act as such as life is no longer sacred in their hearts, actually, the church tries to feed the poor in Africa but the eugenist at the U.N. tries to kill them

[FarfalleAlfredo]

Go to the Planned Parenthood website, under the "Health & Services" tab, the second one down is "abortion", it's right on their own website! How can anybody even claim they do not promote abortion?

My tax dollars should NEVER be used to fund the murder of babies, I hope this bill passes. It will save lives.

[iampotts02]

oh and when i went to pp they didnt even ask if i was getting an abortion they even sent me to a church! i donate to them all the time they are a great company!

[iampotts02]

they do very good stuff so what if women get the abortions pp isnt giving them! they give women a choice its not illegal to get one!!!! so they shouldnt lose funding! they help out so many babies and women!

[indielite]

and, although you find abortion morally reprehensible, it is a legal health procedure by law of the land. again, health procedure. if you find it morally reprehensible, then don't get one. stop trying to impose your religious views on others. that goes for birth control, too—if it's against your morals, then fine, have as many kids as you want. but don't try to limit its access to women who believe sex is not only an activity meant for pro-creation.

[ebony88ivory]

@indielite a literal holocaust occuring in my own country?? Sorry. Not happening. My complaint is not with birth control. If that' all PP participated in, I really wouldn't care so much.

[indielite]

@ebony88ivory again, YOU see it as murder. since it isn't scientifically proven what exactly starts at conception, or if the soul exists, etc it's hard for a lot of people to believe that they're actually taking a life when an abortion happens. so, again, if you find it morally reprehensible, that's fine, but i don't think it gives you the right to give it the blanket term "murder" or call women "baby-killers" etc. it is not black and white but a very, very gray issue.

[ebony88ivory]

@indielite Ah, but no scientist on the planet will deny that life comes into existence at the point of fertilization. The DNA, the complete genetic code is present from that second onward. Life is there. Something inside the woman is alive. The argument is, what kind of life? I was recently informed that humans share 50% of their DNA with bananas. :) Don't know if that is true or not, but if it is, the genetic coding is obviously completely different. A pregnant woman has never given birth to a

[ebony88ivory]

@indielite banana....or a chimp or a kangaroo. It's always HUMAN. Therefore, the life inside the woman --call it zygote, then embryo and fetus (btw, fetus is latin for 'little one')-- is human life. However, it's easier and much more convenient for us to say that no, it's not a human baby yet. If not, I must ask: when does this magical moment take place, when a fetus becomes a baby?? Killing human life --in whatever form-- IS murder.

[ebony88ivory]

@indielite Now suppose I'm wrong about all this? If so, then I am advocating that our nation and its taxpayers refuse to fund a credible organization that provides birth control, STD testing etc. to millions of women. But if YOU are wrong--not to mention our legislators who are opposing Pence's amendment--then you are advocation the funding of an organization that makes money through the legalized murder of millions of children.

Food for thought.

[ebony88ivory]

@indielite Certainly I'm insiunating such. Although there is an amendment in place, neither you nor I actually KNOWS that tax money does not fund abortions. Big orgs can move money around. But whether my money pays for the actualy vacuum that sucks the child out, or simply the salary of the receptionist at the front desk, I oppose it and will continue to do so. The beauty of America is that we are both entitled to our opinons! :) Unfortunately, we can't both be right.

[ebony88ivory]

@indielite Want to clarify what I said earlier about killing human life in any form. This doesn't qualify a hair follicle or skin cell as human life (yes, have heard of that argument). Human life extends from the point of conception until the moment of death. "Any form" would indicate any age, size, or level of development. This includes babies (or fetuses!) in the womb, the mentally and physically handicapped, and every one inbetween.

[Serge1965]

Thank you Lord Jesus for men such as this one with backbone to stand firm against evil, in Your Name Jesus i pray, Amen

[plucknpick]

If you want to align yourself with Planned Parenthood, fine. But the rest of us cannot stand by and watch Economic Crisis continue because we abort another 52 million tax payers, and then fund a lifestyle that abuses women.

The Utube videos are out. The Truth is getting out. Women are better than that.

Time to stick up for them again, men. Time to rescue the Princess instead of being a toad!

[indielite]

@plucknpick rescuing the princess? please. men SEND young women to PP. women unfortunately have the heavier burden when it comes to sex and yes, having an abortion is an unfortunate, heartbreaking experience for a woman. but the amendment in question is not an abortion issue. PP offers preventive health services to women who are trying to be SAFE and RESPONSIBLE because it is their priorities, much more so than a man's, to be safe. to take that away is disgusting. you're the "sick" one, sir.

[ebony88ivory]

@indielite @indielite It really doesn't matter whether you think PP promotes abortion over prenatal care and health services or not. The amendment in question is most certainly an abortion issue. PP PROVIDES ABORTIONS. Therefore, this amendment obviously concerns abortion. As a taxpayer, I don't want my money funding them, when they OFFER services that I find morally reprehensible.

[indielite]

@ebony88ivory learn your facts: according to the Hyde Amendment, which was passed in 1977, federal funds do not provide abortions i.e. NONE of your precious taxpayer money goes to abortions. as someone who has worked with PP firsthand, i know for FACT that abortions are the one procedure PP makes young women pay for out of their own pockets. this is NOT an abortion issue but an issue regarding women's healthcare, whether preventive or needed (like pap tests, etc).

[ebony88ivory]

@indielite Actually, if you READ my comment, I did NOT say that my "precious taxpayer money" goes for ABORTIONS. :) I said that my money funds PP, which IT DOES, ACCORDING TO THE FACTS, thank you very much. They "OFFER" abortion "services". And since when does "healthcare" cover murder? I'm sorry we disagree on such a vital issue. You tell me not to "get one," if I find abortion morally reprehensible. (Thanks, I won't.) Yet I'm supposed to stand by with my eyes closed and mouth shut, and ignore

[indielite]

@ebony88ivory by pointing out that PP provides abortion services, you're kinda insinuating that your money is going to those services. anyway, i think it's fine to have your opinion. i used to be super pro-life (even attend the March for Life rally in Washington) until a couple years ago. but i think experiences that you undergo change your life perspective, and i think the only people who truly understand abortion and the reasons for it and the pain it brings are the women who go through it.

[ebony88ivory]

@indielite Absolutely, experiences change your perspective. And I agree whole-heartedly that only a woman who has an abortion can understand the pain! But can the reasons justify wrong?? I hear all the time "what about rape?" Well, what is rape? It is an evil act of violence against a woman. It is a heinous crime. Yet, what is abortion? An act of violence, not only against the child, but against the woman as well! The physical and emotional aftermath of an abortion are horrible.

[ebony88ivory]

@indielite Can two wrongs equal a right?? Obviously, if a person does not accept abortion for what it is, this is a futile argument. All I can say is that I will fight it. That said, I do NOT hate women who have had abortions, all PP employees, etc. like some "pro-lifers." That's as wrong as abortion in the eyes of God.

[indielite]

Mr. Pence, please don't speak about abortion until you've had the experience of being pregnant. you have no clue what a young, disenfranchised woman goes through when she discovers she pregnant. of course, she is disenfranchised because of people like you.

[plucknpick]

@indielite , men may not be able to have a child, but we can protect children and women.

Susan B. Anthony was an exceptional woman because she not only voiced her opinion but changed America for the good.  And she was pro-life.

Planned Parenthood, and people who align themselves with that organization, are being exposed for the ugly monsters that they truly are. Trafficking young women, prostitution, etc all find a haven in Planned Parenthood.

[indielite]

the Pence Amendment disregards not a woman's right to choose abortion, but disregards the right for women to have a safe haven where they can talk about sex, receive birth control, and take care of their vital gynecological services. so it's OK to let women go without sexual health and preventive services? it's OK for men, then, to not be responsible and wear a condom (which, as we all should know, is how women get pregnant in the first place)?

[plucknpick]

@indielite Planned parenthood is NOT a safe haven. That is the problem! They will ALWAYS council a woman to abort- they are in the business to abort. The founder (a woman) PRACTICED EUGENICS via abortion . Eugenics is the practice of aborting Blacks and Minorities to reduce their populations......

Is that what you are defending!?? Sick!

[indielite]

@plucknpick and who fed you these lies? have you even been to a PP center? let me tell you something: i have. they do not "force" or "promote" abortion on you. the first thing they ask when the pregnancy test comes back positive is: "would you like pre-natal care?" not: "when would you like your abortion?" furthermore, before the procedure i was thoroughly screened and had an ultrasound. they also reported the father of my child for forcing unprotected sex on me. they were nothing but supportive

[indielite]

as someone who has been through this experience firsthand with planned parenthood: 1) they do not "promote" abortions. the first thing they do is ask if you would like pre-natal care. 2) they do not "force" you into abortion, and screen you thoroughly before the procedure is done. 3) NO TAX PAYER MONEY goes to abortions. when you get an abortion from PP, you must pay for it with your own funds.

[Guadalupe1130]

@verbytskyy The Planned Parenthood stats are not accurate because they consider each condom distributed to be a "service." So 1 abortion is on the same level as giving out 1 condom. So of course with that skewed counting, abortion wouldn't rank high on their list of services. However, they are the nation's largest abortion chain and it makes up the bulk of their profits.

[CatholicMomof9]

Thank you, Rep. Pence!!!!!!!!!!!!! Yours is absolutely the majority opinion of your constituents. Thank you for this. God bless you-

[verbytskyy]

Oh, yes, Mike. You probably do have insurance and you do not have to worry about where to get condoms. Abortion is only a slightest fraction of what PP does. Now think who goes to PP to seek health care services and education. Right - nobody from your surroundings. So now think about the number of people who would go to PP and get proper screening, help, education or even that "freaking condom", will end up replicating themselves. Think about the (AIDS) patient number that will increase!!

[kathyleicester]

@verbytskyy

Where does PP make most of it's money? Abortion services. Taking money from me and using it to kill a child because somebody else decided that they were going to have sex, and then got pregnant is immoral. So quit with the class warfare emotionalism and look at the moral facts.

[verbytskyy]

@kathyleicester, the point of my post had NOTHING to do with abortion, but since you mention it, I would like to see the source from which you are getting your information.

[kathyleicester]

@verbytskyy

While your initial post asked about separating religious beliefs from politics, which is impossible because everyone applies their religious beliefs to anything they do, the answer to your post is the issue of abortion. It is legal, but it is murder, and murder is a violation of the law, both secular and God's law.

Planned Parenthood publishes their financial information online. Google something like "planned parenthood finances" and you should get right there.

[verbytskyy]

@kathyleicester I followed your advise and I found that PP used 3% of their budget on abortion services in 2007:

I did not mention anything about religion or politics, I believe it's some sort of confusion. Any way it's getting late. Have a good night and God bless America! Have a great weekend.

[csayer08]

I thought religious beliefs weren't suppose to be infused into politics?? As far as I know, abortion is legal in the US, so why is he attacking Planned Parenthood on something that they can legally do?

[kathyleicester]

@csayer08

Everything the government does is a moral issue. How are we to make decisions on moral issues without using our faith? Don't be ridiculous. The country was founded by men who were clear that a republic could not exist without a religious and moral people. We are those people.

And of course it's legal, Roe v Wade took care of that. And since we live in a country that honors the rule of law, we honor the law and let murder be a part of the American culture.

[wtopp23]

America won today. Thank you Mike and thank God.

[FraGilesMary]

Thank you for successfully pushing through the "Pence Amendment." I know it has been your deeply held lifelong conviction that the killing of innocent children is immoral, and just as immoral to force God-fearing man and women to fund what they know in their hearts to be evil. May God continue to bless you and your family, Congressman!