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  • Nice subs.. I am planning on getting 2 9818s with 2 dc5.0k watt amps.. What amp are u using??

  • @lablue350

    they don't make 9900 series anymore

  • And who can for get, Sundown Audio. If I am going to spend a 1000 dollars on an amp, I'm sure as heck not gonna buy JL's 1000/1... That would stupid.

  • fuck....nice!!!!!

  • I can see the back door pannel shake

  • was für ein lied

  • its all about ROCKFORD FOSGATE

  • @MrDownkiller fuck rockford if u are in highschool and want to add sum music to ur car get sum trash like rockford if u want to beat the block down get what i got check the vids

  • @05TravLand ur danm skippy fuck rockford the biggest sub they make is a t2 wow i have seen boss subs hit harder than rockford t2 subs i got my ma audio hk 15 and it is 2000rms and can take more rockford has feel off the only reson rockford is so high priced is because ppl want buy there crap so they charge more to stay in biss

  • @jonjon38953 DIDNT THEY MAKE A T3

  • @MrDownkiller they only made t1 and t2 they make pretty big amps but a rockford seller told me that the 2500bd is good for comps with the t2 but not all day and the speaker cost almost 2000 dollars when u can buy and orion hcca 12 or 15 and run that bd 2500 all day for just 400 dollars for the sub ur paying for the name with rockford not the product a hold system from rocford would cost u almost 5 or 4 thousand dollars

  • @jonjon38953 RF T2 subs are only a few hundred dollars each. HCCAs are all fluff. Grant it,HCCAs do get loud, but you still spent 400 on something that isn't worth that. Fi car audio, DD's, DC Sound Lab, SSA, Image Dynamics. MMATS, all these are great brands. With mainstream car audio, you're just paying for the name...something made in China.

  • @mminc81 here where u buy them the place is called audio central the rf t2s are like 700 a peace u only get warranty if they hook them up i checked on a hold system pro box 2 t2s and a rockford bd2500 and it cost over 3000 the guy even told me i couldnt play them over a few min at 1ohm i was like damn u only pay 400 for an orion and it can take that all day and u get sound qulity thats a rip off

  • @jonjon38953 but ur right the brands u named off are good but orion wasnt allways a mainstream audio company since some new guys taken over they have become more known by alot of other companys but just like the brands u named off they all have recones just like orion that means made to make numbers made to be tough and made to take alot of power look at rf again no recone way over priced and not to tough

  • @MrDownkiller o and about rockford being underrated why buy an amp that is underrated when u can buy a amp that is rated true rms and be done with it some ppl dont look at it the way i do take hifonics new amps for an example look at the bd 2500 price and look at the price on a hifonics 3200 and its true rms i mean that makes rockford a rip off big time with the hifonics ur getting 1000 or so more rms for less of the price

  • @jonjon38953 im not a huge fan of rockford but i have to admit, there amps r the best, everyone with competition speakers use Rockford amps for everything these days and at first, i didnt understand why everyone was buying them, so i bought one and i was amazed with the results, it was even better than my soundstream amps and my diamond audios, im just saying, watever speakers u have, try out Rockford amps espcially there old ones, u can make 8's sound like 12's with old Rockford amp

  • @MrDownkiller well the problem is i have went up against a guy with 2 rockford t2 12s and a bd 2500 and have beatin them by 7 db with my 1 15 ma audio and im only pushing 2000 rms to it i have beatin a t2 15 on a rockford bd 2500 by 4 db but to me the hifonics and mb quart have very good sound quility as a rockford but i install my equipment myself they had rockford install theres

  • @jonjon38953 i never did like the t2, maybe if he had DC subs or Fi, he could have been close to u or even beat u, or maybe the box for the T2 wasnt the proper size, but then again it all depends in way cause i have 2 15' Fi beat that fuckin huge ass MTX jackhammer, which was pretty fuckin amazing espically since the 2 15'z had less rms going into them, i think i recalled the Mtx had 15,000 watts and the 2 15'z had 11,000,

  • @MrDownkiller see i have 2 15 inch ma audio hk woffers they call for a custom box but i can only use 1 because my trunk aint big enough a ported box for these things are 3 to 4 cubes and i would have to face them inside the car but no room for a port i have seen my own subs hit a 158 at a db drag with only 2000 rms and had them in dodge darango but im thinking about having psi recone mine to take about 3k all day and see what happens

  • @MrDownkiller and also have this 1 sub in a pro box witch is still small i have broke the port and had to fix it twice it sounds good but i just know the box aint big enough for it to really breath add me if u aint already added me and at my next show ill show u some of my competitors and my system on the term lab im going with a better box and bigger amp

  • @jonjon38953 therez a reason for everything, i went to SMD and about more than 45% had Rockford amps, u should go to like a Major car audio shows, u will see wat i mean, the guy who suggested me these amps was i think jesseadkins187 and i have to thank him cause every hit sounds clean and bangs hard, just try one out and if u dont like well everyone is different, im just saying

  • @MrDownkiller its kinda hard to upgrade im still useing 4 gauge wire on 2000rms amp that calls for 0 gauge factory battery and factory alt im hitting a 142 db but i know it could do way more but thats only one 15 in the trunk of an impala i got 2 kids and a wife thats where car project money goes to if i had better money i assure the only 2 subs im looking at is dc and dd and 2 rockford 2500bd amps strapped

  • @05TravLand rockford makes really good amps. just expensive.

  • IM SICK OF HEARINF THAT SONG.IF YOU WANT A GOOD BASS SONG PUT IN THAT SLIM THUG-SO HIGH... GOOD BASS SONG THAT NOBODYS PLAYING

  • How is this song called

  • whoops which will eat**

  • why do u put the speaker outside the box put them inside and hear the difference

  • Man! I jizz in my pants ohhhhoooo yeah!!!!!!

  • It sounds like a fart, but I like these type of farts.

  • gente mone musica ?

  • my elemental designs look identical to your dd lol pretty tight.

  • ALL HAIL DD!

  • A u forgot fi btl

  • @lilluna1234 and ascendant audio

  • @FonZ4590 and t3 audio

  • are street edges good competition ones? i knwo they are cheap but are good for bass

  • whats the name of that song playing

  • you can add Incriminator Audio, SSA, Soundslpinter, TC lms, FI, and on another note.... MTX prolly has one of the best subs as for component subs b/c the 9500 series was based on the TC i actually heard that TC designed the sub for MTX so other than that series mtx is eh ok. Personally i run a 15" Incriminator Audio Death Row off a sundown saz1000....n let me tell ya you will not get this kind of sound and flex from best buy.

  • A i gotta question: can u lose bass from having your sub this way.

  • that is sexy. i love inverted subs <3

  • spl its for nigers

  • i have brand new in box 9512g with 8" carbon fiber dustcap, never seen power! wanting to trade for 9515. =/

    anyone?

    please help!

    (90) 921-8549

  • hey man i just bought a dd 3518, and i was wonder, what specs i should build my box too, can anyone help, its in a yukon xl

  • name sound ?

  • what song is this?

  • What is the significance of putting the sub that way?

  • It helps cool the coil and magnet better.

  • the truth is these subs just arent made for sq jl audio is u cant say that jl is garbage they have amazing power options to dont diss a brand because they put integrity of music before decibel levels

  • true but treo just came out with a line that is far beyond the w7s now i actually had a chance to hear 2 13 w7s in a custom made ported box and they got mean sq and spl but the new treo ssps that i just got my hands on out do thise w7s on both sq and spl

  • RE and DD subs are SPL subs. stricly made for compitition. there not garbage ass component subs, like JL audio, Kickers, MTX, Pioneers, or Alpine and all that gay shiit. There SPL, you cant compare a JL w7, with a RE or DD sub, because these subs are ment for BASS, a regular 12" RE will sound louder than a JL w7.... why? because its jus like that!!!! why do u think SPL subs cost a shiiit load of money? RE AND DIGITAL DESIGNS ROCK THE FUCK OUTTA UR CAR!!!!!

  • Yeah this is true. But dont throw the W7 completely out. Im not a JL fan boy or anything but i have seen a build with a single W713 off of a JL 1000/1 with a custom built tube box hit 147 on TL. for those that dont know a tube box is taking alot of tubing cutting the angles and mounting the tubing together, depending on the length is the tuning. Its a weird looking box but highly effective. This is only one example. No it is not as good as RE or DD but its not "garbage".

  • @Jacobbz206 lol, I know who's vid your talking about, and thats a transmission line quarter wave horn, djdacdb's tube.

    not to mention in order to put that kind of # up in a Transmission line enclosure, it requires extensive math, pretty much saying you can get any sub very loud and good sounding in a T/L if you know how to do math.

  • yeah, every good box to do numbers on the TL and sound good will take math. Some just take more than others. I do not know the way to make that type of enclosure but it is amazingly bad ass =)

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  • you can get sound quality out of just about any size sub.... depends on the box and the power.

  • @Jacobbz206 You can not get sound quality out of any sub lol. It depends on the box by far yes but not any sub.

  • i will make a guarantee any subwoofer of mass production from a company can produce good sound. At what frequency and sound level is a whole other story.... Alot of cheap brands subs are designs to be better on mids than lows and act more like a powered door speaker. Any subwoofer will produce good bass. I think your mixing a bad amp and a shitting signal with any speakers capability.

  • they make spl subs but for the most part they are sql subs. all the hand build aftermarket subwoofers shit on many mainstream manufactures in spl sql and sq in general. while people are paying 600 dollars for a 1000wrms subwoofer you could go and find a subwoofer that can take 2000wrms for 300dollars hand built out of a hell of alot better soft parts which are one of the main fails of these big companys

  • @241frozone Where is your system?

  • @241frozone DD's were actually designed as SQ musical subs. Every DD woofer is a musical sub and they wang!

  • @241frozone Yeah. SPL subs sound like crap man. They get loud but some of us do like to listen to our music with a little less distortion and more reliability. Almost all SPL subs don't last more than a couple years. SQ subs can last a lifetime. Guess it just depends on what you want.

    SQL subs are what I go for... I've been using TC Sounds for years and they're great, I can hit mid and upper 140's with a single 15" from them. That's plenty loud enough for me, and good SQ too.

  • @the9876543 lol that all depends on how much power u feed ur subs and the electrical of ur car not all subs will last a lifetime i love spl but want some sq too but its hard 2 find woofers like that like i have the perfect set of treos with both of those features but now i want more spl so gotta decide what 2 move up to now

  • @241frozone only spl??? than what about daily???

  • @241frozone dd was built with just the highest quality possible for a reasonable price, they are what most consider sql. the Z series however is strictly spl.

  • @241frozone Dont forget about: Sundown Audio, Ascendant Audio, SSK (soundskillz), GZPW18

  • @241frozone don`t forget T3 audio dude...!

  • @241frozone DD and RE sound like shit. period

  • @uglytiger23 And i'm guessing you would know this from experience, right?? An RE XXX does not sound like shit, and niether did my 3 10" RE SEs... how would I know this, experience. My full blown SPL Audioque HDC318 sounds great. It's all about the application. Box, tuning, wattage, wiring, car, voltage, radio, eq etc.... so shut up and go play some more cod

  • @Bsktbll895 i hear 2 re 15s in a custom tuned box. the dub 7 sounded sooo much better but wasnt quite as loud

  • @uglytiger23 They actually are top of the line. Both make a sub that is made for sound quality, but on the other hand both make a sub that is made for getting as loud as possible. They hit all areas of caraudio, which is what all of the companies are doing, along with making budget subs. Where 241frozone is correct, the name brands that you can get at say, bestbuy, are not comparable.

  • @241frozone first off jl audio mtx are not made out of gay ass components, just because you spend the same amount of money as getting a re xxx as getting a 9500 or a w7 doesn't mean they suck, i have a re sex and its comparable to a lot of subs made by those company's, its just preference on what you like,

  • @241frozone ??? really now

  • @241frozone I thought DD was SQ?

  • @Thrash3rSkateRock just depends on the sub

  • @241frozone You're pretty fuckin' special, buddy.

  • @241frozone what about Fi ?

  • @241frozone

    Incorrect, sir.

  • @241frozone word.

  • @241frozone shut the fuck up

  • @241frozone u r only like 25 % correct people use MTX,KICKER, JL audio n ALPINE n competitions a sub is a sub they all do the same damn thing (make bass) n RE and DD subs r not strictly competition subs plenty of people have them n r not using them n competitions.

  • @241frozoneu n u cant just say RE WOULD SOUND LOUDER THEN A JL W7.......WHY ? BECAUSE IT ALL DEPENDS ON THE PACIFIC SUB. U CANT JUST SAY ONE BRAND SOUNDS LOUDER THEN THIS BRAND U DUMB ASS...... LET ME STOP CUZ I COULD GO ON ALL DAY

  • @quakj wow, you are not intelligent.

  • @241frozone shit. look how a alpine type x or type r is built compared to that shitty ass piece of crap. and alpine are not crap. they sound better than dds.

  • @bitzboy123 your fuckin dumb. dd isnt good but its def not bad it shits on alpine anyday of the week. alpine is a best buy brand if you think alpine slaps harder than this than you need to go back to mexico

  • @122312bens Im fucking dumb? Alpine subs are not a best buy sub. I dont buy my shit from best buy. I buy my shit from crutchfield. and there is something that you retards dont get about a subwoofers, it dosnt matter how loud it goes. It dosnt matter if you can output 180 some db. It matters when it is all said and done how low the sub can go, and the quality of the sound that comes out of the woofer.

  • @bitzboy123 lolol ok dumbfuck. put your alpines up against my btl well see whos sub hits lower notes and whos has better sq

  • @122312bens first of all your the dumb fuck, because alpines DO have better sound quality. and if i am correct ur box is tuned to about 40- 50 hertz? if so your sub will NOT hit lower than mine.

  • @bitzboy123 look at my video. k my box is tuned to 32 hz stupid piece of shit. i have a btl 18 fully loaded and to only break it in its gettin 1800 watts thrown at it so take your stupid ass comment and fuck off. my 18 will sh it on your sound quality anyday of the week

  • @122312bens 32 hertz. thats it? you think thats low? how about you tune your box to18 hertz. And all 18s do is go loud. Ya they may go low but you had to go big. and you think that an 18 is going to have better sound quality then my 10? well your fucking retarted. that 18 of yours is loose and flabby. all that dose is produce LOUD BASS. my 10 is tight. Gives punch, makes those kick drums sound beautiful. And gives the lows that i need to feel it in my chest. your sub would make it sound boomy.

  • @bitzboy123 omg are you really that retarded? k what you tune your box to doesnt determine how low a sub can hit. your a fuckin moron. i can do 10 hz. i can do 30 hz louder than your 60 hz note. my 18 with spank your sub all fuckin day. go crawl back into a ditch

  • @122312bens wow u really are a retard. Of course what you tune your box is not what your sub will output. that would be like putting a random ass speaker in a box and tuning it to 30 hertz and expecting it to act like a sub. I would tune my box to 18 hertz because that is the frequency that i want to hear. and i would hope that 18 could do 10 hertz. If it couldnt then that would be a shitty ass 18. and the only place your 18 will spank my sub is with the 10 hertz and the volume NOT SOUND QUALITY

  • @bitzboy123 find me a btl sub that an alpine type r will beat in sound quality.

  • @122312bens wow you really are a dumb fuck. This had nothing to do with a btl. Ive never heard a btl. Ive just seen that vid of that dude that has like 4 of them in his tahoe. I was rippin on DDs. Not btls. Im not gonna say shit about a sub i know nothing about.

  • @bitzboy123 whyd ont you post a vid of your 10s then hmm? lets see em

  • @122312bens no camera.

  • @241frozone lol kmon... some ppl aint got the money for wicked shit.. like me i got an mtx and a kicker...but im working my way too DC lvl 1-3 and a hifonics amp

  • @241frozone I wouldn't call JL shit, cause their subs are alright. Not near as loud as DD, a JL couldn't even dream about being as loud or near a DD, unless god made a magic enclosure for them xP

    JL is overpriced. You are right, Most RE's can beat JL's, and they are half the price of JL's. But JL's arent shit subs, they are just overpriced, which, I guess you could say makes them shitty in a way. Bottom line, go with DD and Resonant Engineering, but I wouldn't say JL's designs are shitty.

  • @masterwolf1212 JLs design on the W7 is shitty. and the best part is the diehard fanboys will thumbs down my comment because they dont want to acknowledge that w7s are pretty shitty drivers for how much they cost.

    not to mention the fact that the driver has a rather turdish bl curve. it loses most of its motor strength after about 2 inches of excursion. (TC sounds found the answer to the BL problem, LMS coils are sexy)

  • @SXSic The LMS is so awesome....I'm sexually attracted to it.

  • @joestl314 i know, im gonna buy like 6 of em with the money im gonna make from working at mcdonalds. should make for a sexy build in another year!!

  • @masterwolf1212 Comparing JL to DD is like apples an oranges. DD's have a higher FS rating and their suggested tuning frequency is much higher than a W7. I'd like to see a DD sub play flat down to 25hz. JL makes overpriced subwoofers that sound really good. If you want to be really loud than buy a DD woofer and put it in a enclosure turned to 30hz. Meanwhille I'll be doing hair tricks and shit.

  • @joestl314 Lol so which side are you taking? Because it sounds like your putting down DD, then saying that you'll be doing a hairtrick with a JL and not a DD?? Sorry but its the other way around DD will be doing the hairtricks xP Plus I don't think JL even makes an 18" subwoofer therefore not as much cone area as a 9515 therefore its harder to do hairtricks.

  • @masterwolf1212 I'm not picking sides. I'd rather support DD though since they're making a GREAT product for a better price. I have two 18 Fi Q's walled out in a Taurus. Check out my channel.

  • @241frozone not straight spl. they can play music

  • @241frozone not completely true.. you can get a fi btl with will eat a w7 for way less :P I'm torn between dd/fi/re.. idk which to get.. all 3 are the shit

  • @241frozone hey man, pioneer makes some good subs too, they arent in the league of DD, RE, or FI, but still, for the price, Pioneer makes some pretty solid stuff.

  • @241frozone your ignorant! you said there louder because there just like that? yet you give no explanation

    on why they are? and then you bash other brands?

  • @241frozone

    RE isnt that expensive...

  • @241frozone Soo.. Let me get this straight; You're saying SQ or General use subs are "garbage ass component subs"? .. Now.. my second question; What the fuck is a component sub? Does it come with horns and crossover or something?

  • dayum tat shyt hittin :p

  • Digital Design is the shit

  • @kskkt No they not,i have one and it sounds very very great

  • @kskkt no. dds are shitty as fuckkk.

  • @kskkt does it matter if its out he box like he has it like which is louder in or out?

  • @kskkt

    you are shit!

  • not even the 15 inch btl ;)

  • is the 12 inch btl louder than this sub?

  • No Way Dude.

    Just got mine last week and have it hooked up to a DD M3

    Boxed tuned to 40 Hz.

    I may be new at this but this shit pounds so hard. I gave up my 12" BTL for this sub and will never go back.

    -eed6d761

  • technically i agree with eed9d761 but ive seen people with one fi btl 12 running on 3500 watts and his roof has a 3 inch excursion look up this

    12" Fi BTL to a Diablo Audio Technologies 2500.1 Accord Flexin

  • hmm ok thanks

    Bamchucknorris man.. ;)

  • HEYY MANNS WHATS THE SONG NAME_?

  • Young Jeezy- Hypnotize

  • WHATS THE SONG NAME_?

  • people dont realize how much 5 dbs is too, i believe you'd loose that

  • WTF if anything it will be louder. more space in the box plus the magnet is cooler. Geeze people need to do research first

  • wow u lost about 5dB just for having the magnet on the outside. dumbass

  • are you fucking serious?

  • hahaha fail

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  • young jezzy hypnotize

  • what song is that? that plays most of the time?

  • I think it's Young Jeezy - Hypnotize. Seriously if some people wanted to show the mechanical dynamics of a subwoofer, they should go with a slow sine sweep from 100hz down to 10hz, that shit looks phenominal.

  • looks ugly invert mounted like that but pounds hard

  • ok i just got a car and i am looking for subwoofers got any recomendations

  • Fi car audio

  • dds dont hit that low get re audio

  • DD Zs will SMOKE RE XXXs :P

    Thats why Zs are hand built to perfection and cost $7000, they also feature rare earth magnets, for the most powerful motors, along with huge 4" voice coils and kevler cones. RE XXXs use weak ferrite magnets and are cheaply manufactured, so fuck RE when it comes to DD Z series woofers.

  • how about you go fuck your mom bitch $7000 is a lil high 4 a sub

  • lmfao money tracking snifing jew fag. haha

  • DD is such a high quality sub that retailers dont sell them because they are the best i really cant tell you how much better dd is

  • #1, There Is NO Best Subwoofer.

    #2, There Are 3 Fucking Stores Within 45 Miles Of Me That Sell DD Products.

  • Yeah they are DD partnership stores circuit city best buy almost all audio shops dont sell DD besides DD is the best it sounds the best with the most watts therefore it is the best

  • You Should See The People On A Certain Audio Forum Laughing At You.

  • Which one? Which sub do you use? DD is the best there is always a best and DD is the best in subwoofers fi and re are close

  • Fuck RE, They've Gone The Way Of Every Other Mainstream Manufacturer. And Sure, DD Is Good, But There Is No Need For You To Be On Their Nuts. Currently I'm Running A 2009 Model Fi BTL Fully Loaded 18" On A SAZ-3kd , But That Is Also In My Daily Driver. I "Collect" Subwoofers, I've Had My Share Of DD Products, And I Have Enough Drivers Lying Around At The Moment. I Am About To Start Testing On A Pure SPL Vehicle, I Won't Tell You What Driver It Will Have (Single), But It Will Give The Z A Run.

  • umm i'd hope so

  • But you don't get the same quality .....

  • their nice but im not a big fan of cloth cones or paper. Ive always like the titanium because you don't watch the cone bend with the surround.

  • An RE XXX Is A SQ Woofer, A DD Z Is A One Note Wonder Fart Machine, Totally Different Worlds. And Wow, You Can Read What's On DD's Website. They Actually Cost $5000. $1500 If You're Not A Dumbass. The RE MX Has A 4 Inch Coil, And So Did The RE Destroyer, That They Only Made 25 Of. By The Way, An Incriminator Warden > DD Z.

  • Dont even bring incrimator audio into this. DDz will smoke you Incrimators. The throw, percision, efficiency 1w/1m, thermal and soft part capabilities will destroy the competition. so DD Z > competition.

    If you dont believe me, watch a vid or two of a Z series in action and then we can talk...

  • Heh. We Shall See.

    And FYI, I Have Seen And Heard One In Person, There's No Need For Me To Watch A Video Of One.

  • By The Way, Stop Spouting Dumbed-Down Thiele-Small Parameters That You Have No Real Knowledge Of. Nice Purchase On That Shiva-X, Too. Lol.

  • im... thanks lol

  • btw i know what i'm talking about, i'm fucking obsessed with this shit

  • that depends on what your box is tuned to fagget!

  • wow im just sayin i dont thank t do man im just sayin :)

  • Nice sub, DD FTW :)

  • YAY 33 seconds to get to the FUCKING POINT,

  • DD makes some kick ass subs. solo x are the shit too. you cant really judge subs that you've never heard yourself. most that do that have no clue whatsoever what 4000w or RMS power sounds like.

  • have u heard of fi btls?

  • Yup top Fi sub. I actually have an SSD 12 right now. Would love to put 1000w RMS on it but right now i just dont have enough power for that. The lows are insane though.

  • Music?

  • Wow lots of kidiots talking about mainstream BS. Stop flooding this video with your lack of knowledge and do a search for Alan Dante.

    Juggs are no match for a 95 series sub.

    There is no such thing as "best" anything because we all have different opinions.

  • maybe so, yet juggz hit like no other, thats my opnion... noticing dd more and more it seems their some sick subs!

  • 1 15" mmats juggernaut is best match against this =)

  • naw lms 15" would blow them both out

  • lol theres no such thing as the best sub because all subs are beatable, actually that goes for anything:)

  • The sub in the vid....Eats the Kicker solo x...In every feild. And if you think the solo x is the best sub out there you need to check out the DD 9918z. I could be wrong...But thats the best (SPL) sub in the world right now. (there's probabley a better sq sub out there)

  • well if you want the best SPL sub then the DD Z18 is the loudest.

    They got more then 180dB out of that sub.

    Only 1 DD Z18, with a whole lot off amps, it doesn't has an RMS rating, because they never got enough power, i think they played like at 30000W for a few minutes and it didn't blew or smelled.

  • no it has 5000 watts

  • You are a idiot, talk like you have a brain. Also i highly doubt your friends sub i(if you have friends) caught fire.... That's pretty extremely rare, ALSO the wrms is probably like 4000...

  • Digital Design is the best Sub. 9918z aprox price $5000 us

  • OMG

  • omg are these people for real?? how can you compare a paperweight to something this beautiful?? and orion?? come on. i have personally seen an orion along with one of these monsters and they dont even belong in the same catagory. do your homework before you try and bash on one of these will ya.

  • Zusahsahhs dont free air subwoofers...