Cameron Carpenter Bach Toccata and Fugue in d minor

[DainGerrUsss]

Could some one tell me if Mr. Carpenter has a you-tube or other video that shows him playing a Bach Trio Sonata? If so, I would like to watch/hear that. If Carpenter is a true artist, trio sonatas will allow us to see his real artistry, as they are all extreme tests of a players technique AND interpretation AND registration AND taste, or lack of any of those. Any phony-ness or gimmicks used in playing THEM sticks out like a sore thumb. And, did he record any Messiaen works on you-tube??

[FlametopFred]

um, I'm telling! No recording devices! No recording devices! Mom!

[chen0466]

First, I'm certainly impressed by Cameron's technical ability, but I don't care for his interpretation of Bach's Toccata and Fugue in D minor, at least the small clip that was recorded here. However, his version of Souza's Stars and Stripes Forever is off the charts!

[DavidSnyderLumierist]

Cameron I trust those organists fortunate enough to have shared in your concert realize that whilst you played,,they were in the presence of "greatness". It is artists such as you that now that carry the weight and burden of the mantle of salvation for the pipe organ as a universal ecclectic instrument now that our churches have begun to turn their backs upon its mystical duties and services, which inspired the likes of JS Bach. Bravo,! David Snyder,Heavy Organ, Lumierist

[cynic150]

Just a flash harry, I am afraid! If he cannot be serious he should not attempt this music.

[tregnier279]

I'm pretty sure this is why organ music is largely dead in the public eye. Nothing but complaining about how the "fucking new kid is playing it all wrong." Yet he's the one who's pulling in large audiences, because he's playing it differently. This 'only x can be played on the organ and only in x way' shit is disgusting. Get the fuck over it and relax your hopelessly tight assholes, why don't you? I think it's been said: if you don't like Cameron, don't watch his videos or listen to his playing.

[cynic150]

@tregnier279 You are talking out of your arse!

[TheMercguy]

I am always amazed by his ability to play every piece of music and make it sound just a bit better by his own interuptration...why do we want to hear everyone sound the same...what a boring world that would be...Cameron is taking the organ to another level in a time when we need current generations to be aware of what an amazing instrument it is...why do I want to see some closeted fat guy slumped over the keyboard with no energy! Maybe note perfect but who cares!

[bwag217]

I would just like to thank all the people who commented on this video, because it has provided me with some GREAT entertainment. :)

[sophelet]

After having watched and been amazed by some of his flashier pieces, I am disappointed by the little clip here, musically speaking.

[bombarde1701a]

I have recordings of this organ

[ProfMoose]

Usual slagging about Carpenters' sexuality I see. If you find homosexuality offensive don't watch it. Otherwise keep your comments focused on the performance of the music.

I usually enjoy CC's videos but this one really does him no favours.

[codeman2008]

Okay you people need to calm down. Organman52 is an INCREDIBLE organist and musician and he was a real virtuoso before Carpenter was born.

[silverstartrucker]

@codeman2008 - He may be an incredible organist and musician but he has a serious attitude problem. He needs to see a Psychiatrist. Cameron brings out the worst in some people. I am not a fan of his but I wouldn't resort to the kind of personal abuse organman uses. What has Cameron's appearance got to do with his skill, or lack of it, on any organ. It is very noble of you Cody to defend organman but have you read some of the nasty vicious comments he's put on here?

[organman52]

Obviously, the carpenter ants are incapable of addressing real issues, such as, what does an observer's ability have to do with her/his ability to evaluate another? and - we are not returning to listen/watch this garbage - but how else can one respond WITHOUT going to the youtube in question? Such questions will never be answered, because to do so would reveal the carpenter ants complete inability to accept the truth. You fuckers disgust me to the core.

[zeekifer]

Organman52 likes to get his poop push'd in

[jlc10023]

I love all of you people calling this perversion and crap - can't wait to hear you play and your YouTube clip to be watched by millions! What is wrong with an artist like this enjoying himself and being enjoyed by millions? If you don't like it, don't watch and don't buy the CD. And by the way, read the review in the current issue of Gramophone.

[melbourner333]

Wow! Thanks so much for posting! Love Cameron and all his videos. I happen to be able to catch him both at Davies Hall in San Francisco and the Berlin Philharmonie in 2010. So good that this artist is being invited to play the great halls! Thanks again for posting :)

[Olgagusli]

Awful!!

[davbear221]

W. T. F? And that is skilled quality playing of a great intellect? Has the AGO's standards fallen to the level of having to acquire a CLOWN to perform? So much for the sophisticated Scholarly performance! How sad!

[polsterj]

Also ich hoffe mal, dass der gute Johann Sebastian Bach im Himmel das nicht ertragen muss (naja gut, er kann es natürlich nicht hören, er ist ja hoffentlich im Paradies!)

[ClemensZwei]

das ist ein Massaker

[ShredST]

Is this like a romantic interpretation of the piece? :\

[organman52]

Not really - it's simply a psychotic mutilation.

[Werckstarck]

Questa è una offesa al genio di Bach e verso coloro che hanno impegnato una vita per studiare un modo per avvicinarsi anche di un solo granello verso la comprensione delle idee del compositore. Questo bamboccio ambulante ridicolizza tutto col suo modo di fare da sagra della salsiccia.

[MrBrysonD]

I'm sure that Bach would be bewildered at this performance. No connection of any type. What is wrong with this guy??? Why play this piece of your not going to communicate the composers message?????

[aidavdbrake]

I think Bach would go completely nuts about such a tremendously versatile organ and all the things you can do with it, that he could never have dreamed of! JS would be SO jealous, he'd wish he was born two centuries later and met Aristide and EM!

But I have to admit it's totally presumptuous to think you can tell what Bach would have thought. Shame on me!! :P

[Saurencaerthai]

People keep on going on about him being "revolutionary," but if this video is any testament to his abilities, he most certainly is not. The essence of this piece is essentially lost.

[ny1news]

He is revolutionary. And a 46 second clip doesn't give you any idea of what he was doing, I was there

[organman52]

I agree totally. And SHAME on the American Guild of Organists for engaging this freak - SHAME on them.

[polsterj]

I agree, it's a shame for the American Organists. There are excellent Americans, Stephen Tharp, Diane Bish or Joseph Ripka, just to say some names. I really feel sorry for them, because there are this monkeys like carpenter making the organ world think that american organ playing is just a big circus!

[organman52]

Let me make this perfectly clear - NO TRUE MUSICIAN/ORGANIST takes this freak seriously - American or otherwise.

[lostnyc2]

Sounds to me like sour grapes to me, jealous because you can't play with the technical skills and from memory w/o sheet music in his face like Carpenter does?

So he doesn't play the exact music YOU like, or his "style" is not what you like, so what? don't listen to his music and don't watch the videos if you claim to hate everything about him as it appears from your constant negative almost slanderous comments on these videos!

[organman52]

You idiot fans of this clown are beginning to sound all the same. And who the hell are YOU to tell me what to do? It sounds like you don't like to hear the truth - most people don't. And how on earth would you know whether or not I can play this - or any - piece, from memory or otherwise, and technically perfect - which your 'man' certainly DOES NOT.

Please - GET LOST.

[silverstartrucker]

Who are you to call anyone a freak and a clown? What a nasty piece of work you are. Who the hell do you think you are? So you don't like Carpenter and his style. Don't watch his videos then, it is as simple as that. Like others here you are only watching/listening so you can criticise.

[organman52]

Oh please - preach to someone else, won't you? I am sick of you 'moralistic' mainstream sychophants.

[silverstartrucker]

Why are you so nasty? Just what is your problem? I will leave you to attack other people's opinions. Please do not reply!

[lostnyc2]

Wow, talk about vitriol and venom LOL what side of the bed did you get up on this morning?

Im not a "fan" of Cameron, a friend suggested I see his videos, and on almost every one of them you are spewing you venomous garbage and hate. if you dont like the videos, MOVE OUT or make better ones! I surmise vew of the hundreds of thousands who watched these could ever keyboard the way he does, and Id bet you cant, thats why you are Mr SOUR GRAPES because you cant do what he does.

[organman52]

You, too, are out of your mind. I suppose I hate every surgeon on earth because I can't perform surgery. I suppose I hate every airline pilot because I can't fly a plane. GO AWAY, garbage-worshipper.

[lostnyc2]

Well, as far as being out of my mind, take a look in the mirror, it is you who is ranting and raving while flapping your arms and screaming about how much you hate Cameron and his performances, yet you return to the videos time and again and I find that curious.

If you dont like him or his performances then dont watch the videos and dont bother commenting anymore with your vitriol, we already know you hate the guy and his music. Either make your own and prove you can do better or shut up

[organman52]

Do you have any idea how many times I have been preached this very same sermon? And guess what? I still detest this weirdo.

[silverstartrucker]

@organman52 - Then why watch his videos?

[organman52]

Very simple - I am writing a book on fraud in music and in education. Does that answer your question?

[silverstartrucker]

Yes: Thank you very much and fair enough. I just wonder why you are so nasty to people.

[organman52]

Nasty = Truthfulness - in this case.

[lostnyc2]

You mean bitter grapes because you lack the abilities :)

if you dont like the videos, MOVE OUT or make better ones! I surmise vew of the hundreds of thousands who watched these could ever keyboard the way he does, and Id bet you cant, thats why you are Mr SOUR GRAPES because you cant do what he does.

[organman52]

Wrong.

[lostnyc2]

Great, then we now who which book NOT to purchase, the one written by the nutjob here who claims he hates this performer's videos so much yet, continues to return time and again to gripe about the videos he hates.

You need the help of a decent phychiatrist.

[organman52]

Wrong.

[lostnyc2]

LOL and yet you still log in here and watch/listen to his videos, speaks volumes ;)

[organman52]

Are you kidding? I don't WATCH OR LISTEN - I reply to comments. Ever hear of that?

[lostnyc2]

Yeah It's pretty clear you DON'T watch or listen LOL, your comments prove it.

But you still have to access this page and the video starts auto playing every time and you love it because you keep coming back.

Where's that video of your keyboarding skills, still can't cough one up?

Didn't think so, but we'll all wait for you to get one up someday.

[organman52]

I will pose this question for about the tenth time - what do MY 'keyboarding' skills have to do with my ability to evaluate another person's? You continue to prove the baselessness of your assertion by NOT answering THAT question. You are just another pathetic miscreant. And if you listen carefully - which you are most likely not capable of - you will hear that ms. carpenter's playing is FULL of inaccuracies. But like I said, you probably can't hear past his curvaceous body.

[lostnyc2]

You are not "evaluating" you are slanderous, capricious, condescending, and border on psychotic obsessive compulsive disordered. Your uncalled for sickening, bitter, angry remarks and nasty tone on these foums is beyond measure. Even your comment;

"And what if I don't comply with your inane command? Are you going to hunt me down and murder me, you sick bastard? "

Proves you are a psychotic nut who probably doesn't even play the organ at all but rant and rave here.

This discourse ends today.

[organman52]

That's right - keep erasing the TRUTH. But erased or not, the truth remains the truth. Those who can't accept the truth are the ones who need psychiatric attention.

[lostnyc2]

Sure is obvious you don't watch the videos and all you do is post negative garbage lol.

[lostnyc2]

Make your own video, post it here and prove you can do better or shut up organman52, simple as that.

Walk the talk.

[organman52]

And what if I don't comply with your inane command? Are you going to hunt me down and murder me, you sick bastard?

[HighWaterTrouser]

@lostnyc2, why don't u shut the fuck up u spineless sack of shit. carpenter is a total hack and the reason why you're throwing out that "lets c u do it better" crap is because you're afraid that organman is actually better. Insecure prick.

[lostnyc2]

@

HighWaterTrouser why don't u shut the fuck up u spineless sack of shit. your friend is a total hack and the reason why you're throwing out this garbage is because you're afraid that organman is as bad as you, Insecure prick.

Nothing like calling for the mass friend reinforcements to come to defend crap, eh organman52?

Can't stand on his own merits and back up his stupidity he has to call his net buds in to help LOL that's hilariously funny ROTFLMAO :)

[HighWaterTrouser]

@lostmuthafucka

I saw the comments and I chose to fight u because you're one of camerons ass lickers, you slurp up every single drop of it from him. oh yh, why do U plagarize me? Because your mother never stuffed enough insults up your filthy ass like mine did. u want videoz cause u can't stand hearing extreme opinions. suppose we should thank your brainless mouther for poping out yet another weakling cheesedick.

[lostnyc2]

I never heard of Cameron before last week, and as I've stated, I don't care for his style of music, or the pieces he plays, but unlike poor little you who had a hard childhood and feel the need to take it out on others, I appreciate his rapid flowing keyboarding SKILLS and technical abilities.

Ooooh you sure sound soo scary with your cursing and rants, don't pop an artery in your anger! You need to make use of spell check, you write like an 8 year old. "extreme" opinons? more like rantings.

[HighWaterTrouser]

@lostfathead

Y do U c r i t i c i z e sp3lling mistakes? cuz u can't get over the fact that ur just a butt licker and that you don't understand anything. his skills are n-o-t-h-i-n-g compared to other people in the world, oh it's so typical for his butt lickerz to lick him in every corner. go get ur self edjookated. at least my childhood didn't start in a carboard box like urs did. the only need i fEEl is to stop BUTT lickery. so guess wat, Ur on mah list.

[lostnyc2]

"@HighWaterTrouser

is because you're afraid that organman is actually better. "

Let him PROVE it, cough up the video matey! let's see his abilities, so far I have not seen even one organma52 organ video, just a lot of hot air and foul fumes.

[HighWaterTrouser]

@losthillbilly, try 2 think bfore u act, get jooself ejookated. you and your slut cameron can slurp the moonshine out of each other for the rest of your livez.

[organman52]

As for your command that I 'shut up' - what are you going to do about it if I refuse? Are you going to kill me? And what on earth does my own ability to play the organ have to do with my ability to judge your adonis freakboy as a complete fraud? You are a psychopath. Now get lost.

[lostnyc2]

OOOHH got up on the wrong side of the matress on the floor today and all acid toned I see.

How about a "Fuck you pscho," that good enough for you? I thought so.

[organman52]

The word is 'psycho' - you psychotic miscreant.

[lostnyc2]

if you dont like the videos, MOVE OUT or make better ones! I surmise vew of the hundreds of thousands who watched these could ever keyboard the way he does, and Id bet you cant, thats why you are Mr SOUR GRAPES because you cant do what he does.

[Sephiroth9120]

@lostnyc2 Yeah I agree completely. Show us you are better or shut up!

[silverstartrucker]

You are such a miserable sod aren't you. I will just say I didn't like it...

[silverstartrucker]

@advisorC101 - Heard you say that before. You have a serious attitude problem young man. Why the vicious attacks on Carpenter. You don't like his style but you watch his video's to attack him and let everyone know you don't like him. Talk about spitting venom :-)

[organman52]

Silverstartrucker - you are DELUSIONAL.

[polsterj]

He can nothing apart from making a big show. Compared to Roth, Latry, Guillou and Bish he is a vasage. Maybe some studies at the Conservatoire de Paris woud be good for him!

[organman52]

Studies? Are you kidding? There is NOTHING that can help this freak. Not even the Paris Conservatory.

[lostnyc2]

"The essence of this piece is essentially lost. "

No more than playing "variations" or transcriptions on familiar tunes, that was/is done all the time.

[tregnier279]

@Saurencaerthai How do you figure?

[soyeso999]

@Saurencaerthai So you speak for everyone? You say the essence of the piece is "lost". Can you tell us what the "essence" is, and where it went? Many people hate newness, change, anything different from what their thoughts tell them life "should be". Why can't people hear music as it is instead of focusing on what it should have been? They might find more color in their lives...

[Saurencaerthai]

@soyeso999 Why would I bother speaking for others?

What I hear is not "newness" or a "refreshed and new perspective on music." I hear erratic, lurching tempo. I absolutely think performances should be compared. Statements like "Why can't people hear music as it is instead of focusing on what it should have been? " sound like blanket excuses to me. I have heard plenty of people play Bach in new and non-orthodox ways, Dan Houlihan being one of them.

[mortson978]

Lame

no regard toward meter

[Eddy438]

This is a brief excerpt of the opening "Toccata" ("touch piece".) which is similar to the Baroque Fantasia. Though they may both have metrical sections, they are usually free in tempo and meter.

Of course, the fugue section should be metrical for the most part but in this case, I think your remark show a misunderstanding of the form.

[mortson978]

perhaps, but it still offends the ear.

[0fantasioso0]

??????????

[octavebasse8]

That was not only very inventive, but also rediculous.