OK let me get this straight...the track on "Substance" is "Cries and Whispers" (incorrectly titled) and the version on "FactUS 8" is actually Mesh? This question has been bugging me for years -which is which?
Mesh and Cries and Whispers have been mislabeled since forever, this is Mesh. It's wrongly named on Substance album it's down as Mesh but is in fact Cries and Whispers. And Mesh is 3.03 long on the original Temptation/Procession/Everything's Gone Green 12". New Order always f#ck up track list/names, put wrong mixes. Murder was listed for the Substance cassette but not included I had to dub on my own copy
I know what you mean regards the track list regards this tune.
Back in the days i had this on the "Substance 1987" on cassette. Later bought the same album on CD only to find this track isnt on it. No wonder Factory fu*ked up ha ha !
The track listing is Temptation (Original 12" version, Hurt, Everything's Gone Green, Procession and Mesh. This CD is extremely rare though, however after doing an eBay search I came across this same album on LP retailing for £7. Im not sure if it is still there though.
Thanks for uploading. :) It's a pretty ctachy song, although you can tell that New Order didn't know what they were to do with themselves at that point...
OK let me get this straight...the track on "Substance" is "Cries and Whispers" (incorrectly titled) and the version on "FactUS 8" is actually Mesh? This question has been bugging me for years -which is which?
abagail4me 2 years ago
A WOMEN on the keyboards indeed!
I remember how socially shocking this was at the time and questions were asked in the House.
The men in grey macs didn't much care because they weren't exactly sure what a women was anyway.
psssyche 2 years ago
Incorrect. The first one is Mesh, the second is Cries & Whispers.
ryandashsdotorg 3 years ago
That was in reply to
jooljetkmae's first post.
ryandashsdotorg 3 years ago
Mesh and Cries and Whispers have been mislabeled since forever, this is Mesh. It's wrongly named on Substance album it's down as Mesh but is in fact Cries and Whispers. And Mesh is 3.03 long on the original Temptation/Procession/Everything's Gone Green 12". New Order always f#ck up track list/names, put wrong mixes. Murder was listed for the Substance cassette but not included I had to dub on my own copy
tin9uk 3 years ago
I know what you mean regards the track list regards this tune.
Back in the days i had this on the "Substance 1987" on cassette. Later bought the same album on CD only to find this track isnt on it. No wonder Factory fu*ked up ha ha !
kams1001 3 years ago
This song IS mesh! Cries and whispers was wrongly named mesh on substance. I thought everyone knew that!
joemingle1617 3 years ago 2
Solid fucking tune!
i just figured out the bass part. its fairly simple but still great to figure it out on my own.
weruleok 3 years ago
@weruleok Gotta love Peter Hooks bass playing, The New Order / Joy Division sound would be the same without it.
kams1001 1 week ago
I have this song on CD
Diamondblade2006 4 years ago
which cd have you got this on ? been looking for it all over !
kams1001 3 years ago
which cd have you got this on ? been looking for it all over !
kams1001 3 years ago
which cd have you got this on ? been looking for it all over !
kams1001 3 years ago
Its the 1981-FEP 313-1982 mini album.
The track listing is Temptation (Original 12" version, Hurt, Everything's Gone Green, Procession and Mesh. This CD is extremely rare though, however after doing an eBay search I came across this same album on LP retailing for £7. Im not sure if it is still there though.
Diamondblade2006 3 years ago
quick reply !!! thanks for that.
kams1001 3 years ago
my had had it on vinyl. cool.
yoshimiman2 3 years ago
The compilation is still widely available. Just order it from Amazon or HMV.
It's on both the Factory USA and Canadian releases :shrug:
Often appears on Ebay - you can get the EGG CD single, that has it too.
Best of luck finding it :thumb:
feckwitklown 3 years ago
I have this song on CD
Diamondblade2006 4 years ago
Mesh is awesome. Thx for this!
smartin108 4 years ago
this song sounds like joy division I love joy division it one of the best dark bands in the music crew JOY DIVISION RULES!
sheilalynne 4 years ago
Wow, 1st time hearing this and I love it! Too bad it's so hard to find this on CD. It should have been on Retro. What were they thinking?
canuck21 4 years ago
perhaps my fav song from NO in the early years..... pissed off that its not on the Substance CD..... ( anyone know where i can get hold of it ? )
kams1001 4 years ago
The 1981-factus-1982 mini album is almost impossible to get on cd now. I know, I've been looking for it for a couple of years now!
Yorkcityknight 4 years ago
nice one...thanks for that, i shall have a look for it..... not holding my breath though
kams1001 4 years ago
very well done !!
ffm20zaheri 4 years ago
Yes it's true. Morris states that in the Retro box folder.
eublepharis 4 years ago
so this is the real 'mesh'? i read somewhere that cries & whispers was mislabeled as mesh in substance, is that true?
bernhl 4 years ago
Yes.
Diamondblade2006 4 years ago
CLASSIC,dark and magical
southwicklion 4 years ago
Thanks for uploading. :) It's a pretty ctachy song, although you can tell that New Order didn't know what they were to do with themselves at that point...
VanishInFright 4 years ago