It's not that it's religious, it's that they speak of truth. Their songs could be considered sermons, but there's no church here other than this entire existence we have to explore, experience and be part of.
" The lyrics draw on philosophy, literature, art, politics and different forms of symbolism. VNV Nation does not advocate any ideology. It is a metaphor for expression."
Taken from the official site, can people please stop with the religion stuff, if you want to know about them go there and read, don't just guess, the christianity thing is the most ridiculous thing I've ever read concering VNV...
@crimsonvin I think what they are trying to convey Is a message to help the battered christian flunkies like my self realize that faith is individual..be it nature, Divine or a combo of both..and to help people lose the guilt of being Human..
As I understand it, having grown up in Ireland and seeing the sectarian violence there, Ronan is deeply spiritual but very critical of religion. I think most of his musical writing reflects that.
Spiritual, religious... the only difference is in perception :) Religion is not only what some curch says is.
You can be religious without having a religion.
The origin of the world "religion" probably came from "réligare" who means "make bonds between (community, humanity, god, etc.)", who becamed in the years "relies". I found the original acception of the term to be beautiful :)
@MrPinkok "You can be religious without having a religion"
Uhhhh no. You can be spiritual without religion, but... Being religious without having religion is like having cake without eating. It just doesn't work like that.
I get what you're trying to say, but linguistically it's just not accurate.
This song makes me cry.....to me this song means letting go of resentment.....I believe you have to be an individual of great power to be able to do that......not all of us can......oh, man, I'm gonna go and star crying now......
With an album named: of Faith, Power, and Glory.. and all the conotations their songs have about the great unknown, can you truely say their all about only the power of man? because that's sure not what is sounds like. One man does have great power, but there's a lot more out there in the great divide that just men.
@warinspiredidiot if there is one power in the universe, a conscient power, you can name him/it what you want, but the easiest way begin by G... I think is the actual concept of religion and god who is lacking, but religion herself is not that bad.
And the human spirit is part of this, there no need to escape from earth or from human to find a religious spirit.
@MrPinkok I totally agree with all of what you say. I don't know you, but I can tell you are a wonderful, spiritual human-being. VNV Nation! Onwards!!! To life!!!
@warinspiredidiot Well their song Genesis is all about creation. But some of their songs I noticed that they would never say things if they weren't Christian.
@warinspiredidiot Religion is created. Higher powers (like you summarize) and transcendence have always been there. It depends upon the choice you make: choosing for concepts imposed by others or choosing your own path with your own morals. I'm not saying the latter is better. Still, personally, I could never go for a different view on life than my own.
I think it's about humanity too and everything it comprises.
@midairman that's true. Vnv nation addresses many issues in all their songs, but this one never truly struck me as overly religious. Not many of their songs are, and if they are, they tend to me more criticizing than anything. 'All the power in the universe' seems to pertain more to personal strength and emotional willpower than to point toward any one god.
Not to mention, it seems to me that this song is more about the natural human tendency to survive. Bad things happen every day, indescribable things, but still many of us are still trying to make every day better and help others out in any way we can. It depends on which perspective you use, broad or small. The fact that this song is applicable to many different perceptions proves to me that it isn't related to your gods at all, because only one mind set can reach your 'heaven".
@warinspiredidiot that's true. Vnv nation addresses many issues in all their songs, but this one never truly struck me as overly religious. Not many of their songs are, and if they are, they tend to me more criticizing than anything. 'All the power in the universe' seems to pertain more to personal strength and emotional willpower than to point toward any one god.
@warinspiredidiot that's true. Vnv nation addresses many issues in all their songs, but this one never truly struck me as overly religious. Not many of their songs are, and if they are, they tend to me more criticizing than anything. 'All the power in the universe' seems to pertain more to personal strength and emotional willpower than to point toward any one god.
@warinspiredidiot THANK YOU FOR saying that! i feel the same way. not all all "power" is religious. power from believing in something so strongly; love, power, revenge, and just BEING alive. i never considered thier music to be religious either but they have become very political. i hate that as well
@warinspiredidiot : look at it like this: the Universe is what we as individuals project... Can be religious for one person, spiritual for another, physical for yet another.
Positive thinking.... the law of attraction...try it!
The human race has always been held in fear of men higher up. When someone holds a religion to you like a blade to your throat. Well it is only logical to fall in line and never ask why, leaving an imprinted mark on society to make us never question the scripture of old. Parenting has taken on a thing about pushing religion or anti-religion which actually has destroyed religion. Religion is a choice, not a necessity. I honestly believe more in human strength.
@warinspiredidiot Why do you feel compelled to posit that human will and spirit are the ultimate forces in the universe and that there is no God? Isn't your judgmentalism just as unbecoming on the other foot?
@Eroldir organized religion you mean, when man tries leads a religion, it ceases to be religion, no one can tell you the word of God, you need to find it yourself.
@NickBeaton92 Well, I believe that no matter the name (God, Allah, Yahvé or else), we all have the same god anyway. What does religion have to do with that?
@Eroldir Well the belief is religious, belief in a being that created everything, and certain morals and guidelines that go with said religion. However it is corrupted when it is lead by men.Basically the difference between organized religion and actual religion was my point.
@Eroldir Well no, there is an inherent difference, there is following the word of god whether that be the Qur'an or Bible or whatever. There are organizations like the certain churches who use that to get money or power.
Many people think it's religious because Ronan is from Ireland,but not exactly.If you pay attention for the lyrics then you can see second real bottom.I'm not sure,but maby he discovered sense of the religion,or maby he never belived.That's off course only my personal opinion,but I'II take it as a atheistic sermon!Anaway,it's masterpiece!
Upon completing my summary regarding the research of the BuddyPooper4Lies creature, I have found what could be an insidious plot to contaminate the Earth's remaining water supply.
Every person perceives differently, however BuddyPooper4Lies is not a person, but in fact a sewer-clogging parasite. Hypothetically speaking, this is only my perception. Conclusively, it doesn't matter what I think because BuddyPooper4Lies has made it quite clear that it's ego is the cause of it's long overdue mutated pregnancy.
@BuddyCooper4Christ Last I checked, you are not the one to make that judgment. Any decent God worshiping person would never say anything to the extent of what you just spewed. This is why many chose to not be a part of any religion because of the ignorance it produces.
Every VNV song i hear gives me chills down my spine, and i really can't help but wonder at how the meaning and wonder never fades no matter how many times i listen to them.
It's not techno, you should learn to categorize music before you even attempt to say something bad about this band. Is your feeble mind going to have trouble grasping that, or did I get it through your head?
It's called futurepop, it's a subgenre of EBM, which is a subgenre of industrial music... It's like techno and industrial hooked up and had a remarkably well-adjusted baby :) You might also like Assemblage 23, Covenant, Apoptygma Berzerk, Seabound, Colony 5, Neuroticfish, or Icon of Coil.
Victory Not Vengeance
DeepMercenary 1 month ago
das lied ist der hammer...was für meine pina die ich überalles liebe
SturmHessen 1 month ago
grazie Gesù lode e gloria a te!
Holyangel27 2 months ago
It's not that it's religious, it's that they speak of truth. Their songs could be considered sermons, but there's no church here other than this entire existence we have to explore, experience and be part of.
Nick01522 5 months ago 2
I am pretty sure I read an article and Ronan said this is about the secret of the universe and how it moves with what we project.
Read the SECRET or watch the DVD awesome.
raven666michelleR 6 months ago 2
God Bless Ronan for his talent
Jotaamachine 6 months ago
It is spiritual bliss in a audio package
xeeen0 8 months ago
This is not music. This is what the world is all about. This is feeling , i want to merge with , forever.
Should i ever pass away , this music is my companion and escort to the eternity.
Thank you VNV, you make my next world much easier.
SyntheticBodyMusic 11 months ago 20
@SyntheticBodyMusic ....They make the anxiety better. Ur existing on the only world u will ever realize...........Not sad, just true.
gschneider37 1 month ago
Perfect Song ♫
ElizabethLest 1 year ago
this song is like red bull. you hear it and i just feel alive!!!!
RyanWehr 1 year ago
" The lyrics draw on philosophy, literature, art, politics and different forms of symbolism. VNV Nation does not advocate any ideology. It is a metaphor for expression."
Taken from the official site, can people please stop with the religion stuff, if you want to know about them go there and read, don't just guess, the christianity thing is the most ridiculous thing I've ever read concering VNV...
crimsonvin 1 year ago 4
@crimsonvin I think what they are trying to convey Is a message to help the battered christian flunkies like my self realize that faith is individual..be it nature, Divine or a combo of both..and to help people lose the guilt of being Human..
vnvfan666 1 year ago 4
religion = conflict.
vnv nation = peace.
Never mention religion in the same sentence as vnv nation again please. It goes against everything Ronan has strived for.
TheDeepBlueWater 1 year ago 8
"though the past, the unwanted memories, are holding on to you"
gosh i LOVE this song. it means so much to me! :O
sterntalerfrau 1 year ago
This song is most definitely about humanity, not religion.
HerbaMaliciferum 1 year ago 2
Though the past, the unwanted memories, are holding onto you
All the power in the universe conspires to carry you
Truths you find through your adversities will defend you
As your powers and all your energies conspire to carry you
htlp 1 year ago
MY TV IS A GOD AND IF YOU DONT WORSHIP HIM YOUR ALL GOING TO HELL!!!"
isaacnelson1234 1 year ago
@isaacnelson1234 Thats exactly how it is! Damn Sheep dont realize! :[
Curtiss 1 year ago
I Love This Song
RogLordness 1 year ago
As I understand it, having grown up in Ireland and seeing the sectarian violence there, Ronan is deeply spiritual but very critical of religion. I think most of his musical writing reflects that.
lurkingheretic 1 year ago
Spiritual, religious... the only difference is in perception :) Religion is not only what some curch says is.
You can be religious without having a religion.
The origin of the world "religion" probably came from "réligare" who means "make bonds between (community, humanity, god, etc.)", who becamed in the years "relies". I found the original acception of the term to be beautiful :)
MrPinkok 1 year ago
@MrPinkok "You can be religious without having a religion"
Uhhhh no. You can be spiritual without religion, but... Being religious without having religion is like having cake without eating. It just doesn't work like that.
I get what you're trying to say, but linguistically it's just not accurate.
ResidentNinja 1 year ago 2
I discovered VNV 9 years ago and fell in love, I always felt that they had a spiritual vibe but never religious...
crimsonvin 1 year ago
my favourite track from the album
teargirl23 1 year ago
This song makes me cry.....to me this song means letting go of resentment.....I believe you have to be an individual of great power to be able to do that......not all of us can......oh, man, I'm gonna go and star crying now......
hellishsmile 1 year ago
With an album named: of Faith, Power, and Glory.. and all the conotations their songs have about the great unknown, can you truely say their all about only the power of man? because that's sure not what is sounds like. One man does have great power, but there's a lot more out there in the great divide that just men.
Avarice66 1 year ago
Why does 'all the power in the universe' have to be religious? What happened to human spirit? Will power? Love?
I've never considered their music to be religious. It's about humanity.
warinspiredidiot 2 years ago 190
I agree completely VnV Nation is all about Humanity. And what its about...
BuNUGly 1 year ago 6
@warinspiredidiot well said...
hellishsmile 1 year ago
@warinspiredidiot if there is one power in the universe, a conscient power, you can name him/it what you want, but the easiest way begin by G... I think is the actual concept of religion and god who is lacking, but religion herself is not that bad.
And the human spirit is part of this, there no need to escape from earth or from human to find a religious spirit.
Religion is what "relies" between ourselves.
MrPinkok 1 year ago
@MrPinkok I totally agree with all of what you say. I don't know you, but I can tell you are a wonderful, spiritual human-being. VNV Nation! Onwards!!! To life!!!
Naggarmon 1 year ago
@warinspiredidiot Except for the ones where they've explicitly kicked religion. I'll reference their album "futureperfect" here.
MechanizedFantasy 1 year ago
@warinspiredidiot Well their song Genesis is all about creation. But some of their songs I noticed that they would never say things if they weren't Christian.
chaosarrows66 1 year ago
@warinspiredidiot Religion is created. Higher powers (like you summarize) and transcendence have always been there. It depends upon the choice you make: choosing for concepts imposed by others or choosing your own path with your own morals. I'm not saying the latter is better. Still, personally, I could never go for a different view on life than my own.
I think it's about humanity too and everything it comprises.
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@midairman that's true. Vnv nation addresses many issues in all their songs, but this one never truly struck me as overly religious. Not many of their songs are, and if they are, they tend to me more criticizing than anything. 'All the power in the universe' seems to pertain more to personal strength and emotional willpower than to point toward any one god.
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Eyybear 1 year ago
Not to mention, it seems to me that this song is more about the natural human tendency to survive. Bad things happen every day, indescribable things, but still many of us are still trying to make every day better and help others out in any way we can. It depends on which perspective you use, broad or small. The fact that this song is applicable to many different perceptions proves to me that it isn't related to your gods at all, because only one mind set can reach your 'heaven".
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@warinspiredidiot that's true. Vnv nation addresses many issues in all their songs, but this one never truly struck me as overly religious. Not many of their songs are, and if they are, they tend to me more criticizing than anything. 'All the power in the universe' seems to pertain more to personal strength and emotional willpower than to point toward any one god.
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@warinspiredidiot that's true. Vnv nation addresses many issues in all their songs, but this one never truly struck me as overly religious. Not many of their songs are, and if they are, they tend to me more criticizing than anything. 'All the power in the universe' seems to pertain more to personal strength and emotional willpower than to point toward any one god.
Eyybear 1 year ago
@warinspiredidiot their beliefs are that which is outside of manmade religion, afterall that is what religion is to begin with, man made
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TuahShinguru 1 year ago
@warinspiredidiot THANK YOU FOR saying that! i feel the same way. not all all "power" is religious. power from believing in something so strongly; love, power, revenge, and just BEING alive. i never considered thier music to be religious either but they have become very political. i hate that as well
vincentpricesnephew 8 months ago
@warinspiredidiot i agree, why does God have to be involved with everything?
vincentpricesnephew 7 months ago
@vincentpricesnephew i realize that this probably a minority view, but why does god need to involved in ANYthing?
ValekHalfHeart 5 months ago
@warinspiredidiot : look at it like this: the Universe is what we as individuals project... Can be religious for one person, spiritual for another, physical for yet another.
Positive thinking.... the law of attraction...try it!
raven666michelleR 6 months ago 4
@warinspiredidiot Well, i consider almost all of their music to be religious.
SangheiliSniper11 5 months ago
@warinspiredidiot I say this:
The human race has always been held in fear of men higher up. When someone holds a religion to you like a blade to your throat. Well it is only logical to fall in line and never ask why, leaving an imprinted mark on society to make us never question the scripture of old. Parenting has taken on a thing about pushing religion or anti-religion which actually has destroyed religion. Religion is a choice, not a necessity. I honestly believe more in human strength.
KnightofWhiterrun 2 months ago
@warinspiredidiot Why do you feel compelled to posit that human will and spirit are the ultimate forces in the universe and that there is no God? Isn't your judgmentalism just as unbecoming on the other foot?
MentorOfMinos 2 months ago
@MentorOfMinos And have you ever considered the fact that God has nothing to do with this mind controlling human invention that is religion?
Eroldir 2 months ago
@Eroldir organized religion you mean, when man tries leads a religion, it ceases to be religion, no one can tell you the word of God, you need to find it yourself.
NickBeaton92 1 month ago
@NickBeaton92 Well, I believe that no matter the name (God, Allah, Yahvé or else), we all have the same god anyway. What does religion have to do with that?
Eroldir 1 month ago
@Eroldir Well the belief is religious, belief in a being that created everything, and certain morals and guidelines that go with said religion. However it is corrupted when it is lead by men.Basically the difference between organized religion and actual religion was my point.
NickBeaton92 1 month ago
@NickBeaton92 But there is no difference between religion and organized religion. God doesn't care about religion. Men do!
Eroldir 3 weeks ago
@Eroldir Well no, there is an inherent difference, there is following the word of god whether that be the Qur'an or Bible or whatever. There are organizations like the certain churches who use that to get money or power.
NickBeaton92 3 weeks ago
@NickBeaton92 God never wrote any book.
Eroldir 3 weeks ago
@warinspiredidiot Its all religious, even the creators of the music state their music has religious overtones.
NickBeaton92 1 month ago
so good. heard this live before ever hearing it before. It was just amazing!
frustrated728 2 years ago 4
Many people think it's religious because Ronan is from Ireland,but not exactly.If you pay attention for the lyrics then you can see second real bottom.I'm not sure,but maby he discovered sense of the religion,or maby he never belived.That's off course only my personal opinion,but I'II take it as a atheistic sermon!Anaway,it's masterpiece!
TheROaR242 2 years ago
BuddyCooper4Christ you are the motherfucker
gypsy9 2 years ago
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gypsy9 2 years ago
Captains Log:
Stardate: Who gives a shit.
Upon completing my summary regarding the research of the BuddyPooper4Lies creature, I have found what could be an insidious plot to contaminate the Earth's remaining water supply.
SyNtH1fEyEd 2 years ago
I will elaborate that...
Every person perceives differently, however BuddyPooper4Lies is not a person, but in fact a sewer-clogging parasite. Hypothetically speaking, this is only my perception. Conclusively, it doesn't matter what I think because BuddyPooper4Lies has made it quite clear that it's ego is the cause of it's long overdue mutated pregnancy.
SyNtH1fEyEd 2 years ago
Do you believe in "god" is not the question. Will you wake up and smell the coffee is. (even if you don't like coffee)
Remember people, REALITY IS WHAT YOU MAKE IT! not what BuddyCooper4Lies regurgitates from it's parasitic mouth.
Thank You!
*thunderous applause*
SyNtH1fEyEd 2 years ago 2
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This is devil music. all you mother fuckers are going to hell.
BuddyCooper4Christ 2 years ago
Huh, and I had always thought Hell was a bad place. But if they have this kind of taste in music, maybe it's not so bad after all.
TuahShinguru 2 years ago 6
lawl
heyz, devil can jam
silverblue73 2 years ago
don't think for a second this fag is christian, is morons like him that give us all a bad name. nothing wrong with this tune.
solar464 2 years ago
@solar464 your comment would have been more meaningful had you just left out the unnecessary "fag" insert. :/
zackk82 1 year ago
@zackk82 i got my point across. and last i checked, its my right to say whatever i want so... screw you...
solar464 1 year ago
@solar464 you're an angry, angry lil fella aren't ya?
zackk82 1 year ago
@zackk82 well, you're half right.
solar464 1 year ago
Go to heaven for the climate, hell for the company.
-Samuel Clemens
kelpie394 2 years ago 3
@BuddyCooper4Christ Last I checked, you are not the one to make that judgment. Any decent God worshiping person would never say anything to the extent of what you just spewed. This is why many chose to not be a part of any religion because of the ignorance it produces.
babehwookiecawls 1 year ago
i touched myself.
MrDragzen 2 years ago 3
My God i love it.
NikkiThrashSpamx 2 years ago 3
♥
jillh81 2 years ago 2
☸ڿڰۣ—
Echooka 2 years ago 4
Every VNV song i hear gives me chills down my spine, and i really can't help but wonder at how the meaning and wonder never fades no matter how many times i listen to them.
TheVioletInfection 2 years ago 88
I totally agree! I think it's because their music is a representation of REAL art, where it's so deep and universal.
crimsonkanji 2 years ago 2
Eh. LIVE VNV... that's something. :)
chintimin 2 years ago
I love it!
NeighbourElaK 2 years ago 6
I love it I feel it so much
gibiskinder 2 years ago 6
Have seen vnv 3 times and have all there cds...love the message and there sense of this of this world
vnvfan666 2 years ago 4
The songs are... Unique. Revolutionary, one might say.
MyBackDoorWalk 2 years ago 6
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A back-door revolution, like a gay pride parade.
neuraxianfusion 2 years ago
Thier songs are inspirational to me.
mannygrimm 3 years ago 7
I really like this song, something so moving about it. A lot of their songs really reach inside you. It's strange. Almost spiritual to me.
VampRune 3 years ago 14
i agree 100% ive never herd anything that grips me like their music. i cant put my finger on it.
shinjason 2 years ago 7
perhaps a new way of spiritual awareness without the old religous ways
vnvfan666 2 years ago 8
spirituality without god? ill drink to that
BlueSpirals 2 years ago 8
went out and bought a few albums while ago.. great musicians such as these deserve my money, so they can keep giving the world songs such as these..
Archenemycaitsith 3 years ago 5
I concur.
PsychoAnalyticalDan 2 years ago
whyyyyy has illusion disappeared?????
ribena12 3 years ago
zakcracker,
It's not techno, you should learn to categorize music before you even attempt to say something bad about this band. Is your feeble mind going to have trouble grasping that, or did I get it through your head?
PorcelainDolliexx 3 years ago
This song is so uplifting.
MoonBabyhowl 3 years ago
It's called futurepop, it's a subgenre of EBM, which is a subgenre of industrial music... It's like techno and industrial hooked up and had a remarkably well-adjusted baby :) You might also like Assemblage 23, Covenant, Apoptygma Berzerk, Seabound, Colony 5, Neuroticfish, or Icon of Coil.
darxoel 3 years ago 8
industrial is what you are looking for i believe
Kisameish 3 years ago 2
Whatever type of music it is... it's a great song!
Geobacter 3 years ago 2
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booooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooring
(even though I usually like techno)
zakcracker 3 years ago
...THAT IS NOT TECGHNO...
DYRKK 3 years ago
No, and it's not tecghno either.
HeadRape 3 years ago 7
It's not techno. It's Future-Pop :)
Great song m8!
ChaossSnake 3 years ago 2
Good, seeing as it's not techno. Pleb.
Beautiful song mate. Thanks for uploading. *thumbs up*
VideoGameChatNet 3 years ago 5
awesome track. I also posted a video of this song like a year ago.
petergoralski 3 years ago 2