gosh i love the newsboys and michael tait is so awesome. i love watching him perform. seen them last yr at winter jam. im going this year again. cant wait. tobymac and skillet yaaaay lol. seen tobymac and newsboys at Icthus Music Festival this yr too. oooh it was so amazing.
well said! i will take a look at the book you recommend and thank you for stating a clear case and not becoming to wrapped up in our differences. respectfully RJ
I guess that to make my opinion as straight forward as possible i will say it like this, the heart is where these song are born from and the words he sang, while having been used by others in a worldly way, i believe where meant for the purpose of worship. let us think about this which is worst, standing in church and only paying lip service while singing a hymn or taking a song that like all Christians are born of sin and using it for worship?
@montanamp I'm a Newsboys fan and have most of their albums. But their music is not worship - it's entertainment. As Christians, we need to be careful not to confuse the two. Many Christians today confuse goose bumps for a move of the spirit. I suggest reading Watchman Nee's book "The Latent Power of the Soul." It does an excellent job of explaining the difference between the soul and spirit. Christians are confusing soul power for the power of God's Spirit, leading to deception.
@theway4321 I agree there is a difference, but I think some of it is also what WE do with it. How do we approach the music? Why do we sing that song? What does it mean specifically to us? Are we worshipping God or are we simply singing along to a catchy tune?
@BuckWilliams1 Yes and no. If you mean we can take something that had it's source in Satan's realm and turn it around to use for good because we are worshipping God, no. Why would God want Satan's table scraps? Think of it this way...In regards to Christians, did we become Christians because God changed us, or because we were crucified with Christ? Our "old man" was not changed - he was crucified, killed, destroyed, and removed. Therefore we are a NEW creation-not a regurgitation of the old.
@theway4321 I didn't say anything about taking something from Satan's realm. Amplifiers, smoke machines, drums, blue jeans, pews, tennis shoes, are all material objects and neither good nor evil. I think how we use a tool determines whether it's good or bad. Use a gun to protect your kid--good. Use a gun to rob someone--bad. Do you celebrate Christmas & Easter? Has any good come from these pagan holy days? I have no false belief all "Christian" music is godly or by Christians.
@BuckWilliams1 I was referring to the song, not the tools to produce it. Your post mentioned the "music" and "song" so I thought that was what you were referring to. Sorry, we weren't on the same page. In regards to the tools such as amplifiers, smoke machines,etc...I agree they can be used for good or evil, and entertainment vs. worship. I would not, however, agree that using a gun to protect my kid is good. I've got Jesus on my side - He's much more powerful than any gun.
@theway4321 I agree, but I think you got my point about the gun. :)
I also agree God doesn't want or need Satan's scraps, but I always figured it was just my personal bias that says "God doesn't like heavy metal *worship* music."
@theway4321 I am invincible with Christ as my saviour, no harm can come to me until He chooses for me to leave this world. (Quote from one of my pastors)
I see where you're getting at with the whole worship vs entertainment thing. I had a night weeks ago where a group of us got on stage and worshiped. We had instruments in our hands but we could barely play them, our hearts were all focused on God, not the song. THAT is what worship is to me.
@montanamp I need to explain my earlier point. The use of light shows, smoke, confetti, video screens, and cranked amplifiers is all designed to sway your emotions. Do you feel God's Spirit moves in a greater way when the music is better and the light show is incredible? Do you feel it's harder to worship when the music is bad? If so, you're tapped into soul power, not God's power. God's power does not run on man's emotions and musical ability. True worship is in God, not in the music.
2 Corinthians 10:4 - "The weapons we fight with are not the weapons of the world. On the contrary, they have divine power to demolish strongholds." You can't fight Satan with his own weapons - and God certainly isn't going to be any part of it. What foolish talk! Do we really have such little faith in God's power and His desire to work on our behalf that we think we need to lure and attract the unsaved with the things of this world? Come on Christians, trust in God and His power!!!
@theway4321 faith without works is dead James 2:17 where in the bible did the lord relinquish music to the devil and tell the church that we are not to use it? i guarantee that if you have been to church lately one or more of the hymns you sang the tunes originated from somewhere that did not use it to worship GOD, yet most of those song move us and bring us closer to our father as we worship
@montanamp- I never said music was bad. But music born out of anything other than God's spirit is born of the world. To take something from the world, repackage it and offer it to God is an unclean sacrifice. Read 2 Cor. 6:14-7:1. Righteousness and wickedness have nothing in common. Light and darkness can not exist together. "Touch no unclean thing, and I will receive you." Do you believe the Black Eyed Peas are clean or unclean in God's eyes? Faith needs works, but works born of God's spirit.
@theway4321 first to answer your question i do not know because i cant see their heart. Second do you think that our present government is totally and completely honoring GOD in every thing it does? Because if you do not believe that, when you pay your tithe with the money issued by our government are you not committing the very same thing, not trying to make it personal just putting out an idea.
@theway4321 first to answer your question i do not know because i cant see their heart. Second do you think that our present government is totally and completely honoring GOD in every thing it does? Because if you do not believe that, when you pay your tithe with the money issued by our government are you not committing the very same thing, not trying to make it personal just putting out an idea.
If people listen to this and are confused that is what we are for as Christians, plus it is a good segway into a conversation about faith, and if it is the Lords will we can share the most important thing that we have - Jesus!
All you people out there that are judging Michael Tait for this, please remember the quality of people that our Lord spent time with first, and then ask yourselves would Jesus judge him and find him in the wrong or would he look at his heart and see as i believe that he was taking a song that was meant for evil and changing it and using it to worship and adore our god.
How can you say they are selling out? Are they using the lyrics to promote themselves? From what I know about them, they are all faithful servants of the Lord.
I'm so sad to say, Tait and the Newsboys sold out. It's sad. I hope they come back to the Most High, because thier actions influence souls. I'll pray for them.
this is so wrong a guy from work was singing the beging of this song and i asked him if he was christian and said no so where did you hear this song he said from black eye peas i said what, the newsboys sings this song, mike tait brought this all down hill...... where's pete
It is a wordly song. People start to question who sings the song. When they look at the lyrics, they stay shocked because like bvdtreefister said, it it's about getting drunk and stuff. How can they start off a show like that? It's ethically and morally wrong. And I don't care if they didn't do the whole song. It's wrong and they should have been booooooooooood and repremanded, especially Michael Tait because I know if Peter Fuller would have been there, that would have not happened!!!!!! =(
@amphib2007 dude they werent implying it that way though they were talking about it being a good night for worship so no they shouldnt have been booed they deserved the cheers cause they didnt mean it the way the original song went so please do consider wat it means before commenting next time
I was at this exact show... I don't think there was anything morally wrong with the show.... but the original song was about getting drunk and stuff so i found it weird and pretty dumb that they would preform it
Secular Song. How uncommon for Michael Tait? Not at all!!!!! Ever since Peter Fuller left, the band just went straight down. He was the image, sound, and voice of Newsboys. I can't stand Michael Tait!!! May God forgive me, but look at this stupidity and the thing that gets me really mad is that everyone agrees like it's OK. This is supposed to be a Christian concert, not a secular one. I am sick and tired of people cashing in using the name of Jesus Christ!!!!!
Its not like he sang the entire song which is how the song gets its bad rep. Besides, Christians can have fun, as long as it has its limitations and I dont believe Michael pushed them.
@JDupreeProductions, To quote Leonard Ravenhill, "Entertainment is the devil's subsititue for joy." I wouldn't get too carried away with your "Christians can have fun" theology. That comment sounds like it was born straight out of the flesh that wants to justify its behavior. Are we living our lives for ourselves and to have fun, or are we living lives that please and honor God and bring us His joy? Ask yourself what spirit that song was born out of.
I saw the NewsBoys do this song in Charlotte, NC. They really did sound better than the Black Eyed Peas. The sound here on YouTube is not vvery good though.
@TheBenSlack Dude. Really? Not all music that isn't screaming Jesus is evil, I hope you know. I'm not offended at all. Music can be good and be secular. JESUS was secular for crying outloud. He hung around the non-conservatives of his day. Jesus spoke down about religion. So, stop being a fundementalist and get over it. I've been to concerts by artist who are Christians who said 'ass'. I didn't care because EVERYONE makes mistakes and sins. So, calm down.
@theassassin43 Let me explain, I ain't saying that all secular songs are "evil", if the song don't contradict or invade what the Bible says, it is fine. I also acknowledge that everyone makes mistakes and sins, it's in our fallen nature. But, at the concert a pastor had just talked about music and how it's supposed to honour and praise God, that song didn't honor or praise God. Also, I would like for you to tell me who these "Christian" bands are who say what you said. THANKYOU
That's your pastor. Your pastor has no full understanding of God. No one does. If you find someone who figures out God, that'll be the day I convert to atheism. But the singer was Mat Kearney. He's not a "Christian artist" though. He's just a Christian who makes music. ACTUALLY, the Newsboys gave him his first label. But then he went secular right away and got big.
You have no understanding or discernment of the spirit world. Also, Jesus was not secular, nor was he religious, liberal, or conservative. Why do people try to associate Jesus with human labels - as if he falls into our classifications. What an insult to God to use the things of man to classify and pigeon-hole Him! What arrogance on our part. This is HIS show baby, not ours. Packaging things of the world in a "Christian" wrapper doesn't change what's inside the package.
I love the Newsboys too :D and did anyone catch that part at 1:50 ? its great lol
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kilojake 9 months ago
gosh i love the newsboys and michael tait is so awesome. i love watching him perform. seen them last yr at winter jam. im going this year again. cant wait. tobymac and skillet yaaaay lol. seen tobymac and newsboys at Icthus Music Festival this yr too. oooh it was so amazing.
kutlessRULES4life 1 year ago
I WAS THERE! :D.. I went crazy when they did that song.. this is one of my fave songs by them!
GS11341 1 year ago
well said! i will take a look at the book you recommend and thank you for stating a clear case and not becoming to wrapped up in our differences. respectfully RJ
montanamp 1 year ago
I guess that to make my opinion as straight forward as possible i will say it like this, the heart is where these song are born from and the words he sang, while having been used by others in a worldly way, i believe where meant for the purpose of worship. let us think about this which is worst, standing in church and only paying lip service while singing a hymn or taking a song that like all Christians are born of sin and using it for worship?
montanamp 1 year ago
@montanamp I'm a Newsboys fan and have most of their albums. But their music is not worship - it's entertainment. As Christians, we need to be careful not to confuse the two. Many Christians today confuse goose bumps for a move of the spirit. I suggest reading Watchman Nee's book "The Latent Power of the Soul." It does an excellent job of explaining the difference between the soul and spirit. Christians are confusing soul power for the power of God's Spirit, leading to deception.
theway4321 1 year ago
@theway4321 I agree there is a difference, but I think some of it is also what WE do with it. How do we approach the music? Why do we sing that song? What does it mean specifically to us? Are we worshipping God or are we simply singing along to a catchy tune?
BuckWilliams1 1 year ago
@BuckWilliams1 Yes and no. If you mean we can take something that had it's source in Satan's realm and turn it around to use for good because we are worshipping God, no. Why would God want Satan's table scraps? Think of it this way...In regards to Christians, did we become Christians because God changed us, or because we were crucified with Christ? Our "old man" was not changed - he was crucified, killed, destroyed, and removed. Therefore we are a NEW creation-not a regurgitation of the old.
theway4321 1 year ago
@theway4321 I didn't say anything about taking something from Satan's realm. Amplifiers, smoke machines, drums, blue jeans, pews, tennis shoes, are all material objects and neither good nor evil. I think how we use a tool determines whether it's good or bad. Use a gun to protect your kid--good. Use a gun to rob someone--bad. Do you celebrate Christmas & Easter? Has any good come from these pagan holy days? I have no false belief all "Christian" music is godly or by Christians.
BuckWilliams1 1 year ago
@BuckWilliams1 I was referring to the song, not the tools to produce it. Your post mentioned the "music" and "song" so I thought that was what you were referring to. Sorry, we weren't on the same page. In regards to the tools such as amplifiers, smoke machines,etc...I agree they can be used for good or evil, and entertainment vs. worship. I would not, however, agree that using a gun to protect my kid is good. I've got Jesus on my side - He's much more powerful than any gun.
theway4321 1 year ago
@theway4321 I agree, but I think you got my point about the gun. :)
I also agree God doesn't want or need Satan's scraps, but I always figured it was just my personal bias that says "God doesn't like heavy metal *worship* music."
BuckWilliams1 1 year ago
@theway4321 I am invincible with Christ as my saviour, no harm can come to me until He chooses for me to leave this world. (Quote from one of my pastors)
I see where you're getting at with the whole worship vs entertainment thing. I had a night weeks ago where a group of us got on stage and worshiped. We had instruments in our hands but we could barely play them, our hearts were all focused on God, not the song. THAT is what worship is to me.
Giacomo3589 1 year ago
@montanamp I need to explain my earlier point. The use of light shows, smoke, confetti, video screens, and cranked amplifiers is all designed to sway your emotions. Do you feel God's Spirit moves in a greater way when the music is better and the light show is incredible? Do you feel it's harder to worship when the music is bad? If so, you're tapped into soul power, not God's power. God's power does not run on man's emotions and musical ability. True worship is in God, not in the music.
theway4321 1 year ago
2 Corinthians 10:4 - "The weapons we fight with are not the weapons of the world. On the contrary, they have divine power to demolish strongholds." You can't fight Satan with his own weapons - and God certainly isn't going to be any part of it. What foolish talk! Do we really have such little faith in God's power and His desire to work on our behalf that we think we need to lure and attract the unsaved with the things of this world? Come on Christians, trust in God and His power!!!
theway4321 1 year ago
@theway4321 faith without works is dead James 2:17 where in the bible did the lord relinquish music to the devil and tell the church that we are not to use it? i guarantee that if you have been to church lately one or more of the hymns you sang the tunes originated from somewhere that did not use it to worship GOD, yet most of those song move us and bring us closer to our father as we worship
montanamp 1 year ago
@montanamp- I never said music was bad. But music born out of anything other than God's spirit is born of the world. To take something from the world, repackage it and offer it to God is an unclean sacrifice. Read 2 Cor. 6:14-7:1. Righteousness and wickedness have nothing in common. Light and darkness can not exist together. "Touch no unclean thing, and I will receive you." Do you believe the Black Eyed Peas are clean or unclean in God's eyes? Faith needs works, but works born of God's spirit.
theway4321 1 year ago
@theway4321 first to answer your question i do not know because i cant see their heart. Second do you think that our present government is totally and completely honoring GOD in every thing it does? Because if you do not believe that, when you pay your tithe with the money issued by our government are you not committing the very same thing, not trying to make it personal just putting out an idea.
montanamp 1 year ago
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@theway4321 first to answer your question i do not know because i cant see their heart. Second do you think that our present government is totally and completely honoring GOD in every thing it does? Because if you do not believe that, when you pay your tithe with the money issued by our government are you not committing the very same thing, not trying to make it personal just putting out an idea.
montanamp 1 year ago
If people listen to this and are confused that is what we are for as Christians, plus it is a good segway into a conversation about faith, and if it is the Lords will we can share the most important thing that we have - Jesus!
montanamp 1 year ago
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montanamp 1 year ago
All you people out there that are judging Michael Tait for this, please remember the quality of people that our Lord spent time with first, and then ask yourselves would Jesus judge him and find him in the wrong or would he look at his heart and see as i believe that he was taking a song that was meant for evil and changing it and using it to worship and adore our god.
montanamp 1 year ago
ok my thinking on this is that he meant a GOOD NIGHT FOR WORSHIPING THE LORD
miss343151 1 year ago 2
How can you say they are selling out? Are they using the lyrics to promote themselves? From what I know about them, they are all faithful servants of the Lord.
jamesjopa1 1 year ago
I'm so sad to say, Tait and the Newsboys sold out. It's sad. I hope they come back to the Most High, because thier actions influence souls. I'll pray for them.
breezyage 1 year ago
wow your all crazy i think its awsome
leafsfreak1 1 year ago
this is so wrong a guy from work was singing the beging of this song and i asked him if he was christian and said no so where did you hear this song he said from black eye peas i said what, the newsboys sings this song, mike tait brought this all down hill...... where's pete
cleta789 1 year ago
It is a wordly song. People start to question who sings the song. When they look at the lyrics, they stay shocked because like bvdtreefister said, it it's about getting drunk and stuff. How can they start off a show like that? It's ethically and morally wrong. And I don't care if they didn't do the whole song. It's wrong and they should have been booooooooooood and repremanded, especially Michael Tait because I know if Peter Fuller would have been there, that would have not happened!!!!!! =(
amphib2007 1 year ago
@amphib2007 dude they werent implying it that way though they were talking about it being a good night for worship so no they shouldnt have been booed they deserved the cheers cause they didnt mean it the way the original song went so please do consider wat it means before commenting next time
demoskisame 1 year ago
where was this one tooken at?
edwardsfangirl 1 year ago
I was at this exact show... I don't think there was anything morally wrong with the show.... but the original song was about getting drunk and stuff so i found it weird and pretty dumb that they would preform it
bvdtreefisher 1 year ago
thats is not the real song all he did was add the beginning to i gotta feeling to to the beginnning of his song
edwardsfangirl 1 year ago
Secular Song. How uncommon for Michael Tait? Not at all!!!!! Ever since Peter Fuller left, the band just went straight down. He was the image, sound, and voice of Newsboys. I can't stand Michael Tait!!! May God forgive me, but look at this stupidity and the thing that gets me really mad is that everyone agrees like it's OK. This is supposed to be a Christian concert, not a secular one. I am sick and tired of people cashing in using the name of Jesus Christ!!!!!
amphib2007 1 year ago
Michael Tait, not the best choice..but added jesus freak to their lineup, so i'm totally happy with it
BigHairySexyBeast 1 year ago
Its not like he sang the entire song which is how the song gets its bad rep. Besides, Christians can have fun, as long as it has its limitations and I dont believe Michael pushed them.
JDupreeProductions 1 year ago 2
@JDupreeProductions, To quote Leonard Ravenhill, "Entertainment is the devil's subsititue for joy." I wouldn't get too carried away with your "Christians can have fun" theology. That comment sounds like it was born straight out of the flesh that wants to justify its behavior. Are we living our lives for ourselves and to have fun, or are we living lives that please and honor God and bring us His joy? Ask yourself what spirit that song was born out of.
theway4321 1 year ago
I saw the NewsBoys do this song in Charlotte, NC. They really did sound better than the Black Eyed Peas. The sound here on YouTube is not vvery good though.
jesusisrisen 2 years ago
Whats the name of the song?
prepaholik 2 years ago
i like this version better
stevo6237 2 years ago
I believe there talking about play that funky music white boy
DaDevilsHeadache 2 years ago
what song? I was there, and i didnt have a problem with anything. It was the best concert I've ever been to
Md55Mark55Md 2 years ago 2
I personally wasn't too happy about Michael Tate singing a secular song at a Christian concert.
TheBenSlack 2 years ago
@TheBenSlack Dude. Really? Not all music that isn't screaming Jesus is evil, I hope you know. I'm not offended at all. Music can be good and be secular. JESUS was secular for crying outloud. He hung around the non-conservatives of his day. Jesus spoke down about religion. So, stop being a fundementalist and get over it. I've been to concerts by artist who are Christians who said 'ass'. I didn't care because EVERYONE makes mistakes and sins. So, calm down.
theassassin43 2 years ago
@theassassin43 Let me explain, I ain't saying that all secular songs are "evil", if the song don't contradict or invade what the Bible says, it is fine. I also acknowledge that everyone makes mistakes and sins, it's in our fallen nature. But, at the concert a pastor had just talked about music and how it's supposed to honour and praise God, that song didn't honor or praise God. Also, I would like for you to tell me who these "Christian" bands are who say what you said. THANKYOU
TheBenSlack 2 years ago
That's your pastor. Your pastor has no full understanding of God. No one does. If you find someone who figures out God, that'll be the day I convert to atheism. But the singer was Mat Kearney. He's not a "Christian artist" though. He's just a Christian who makes music. ACTUALLY, the Newsboys gave him his first label. But then he went secular right away and got big.
theassassin43 2 years ago
@theassassn43...
You have no understanding or discernment of the spirit world. Also, Jesus was not secular, nor was he religious, liberal, or conservative. Why do people try to associate Jesus with human labels - as if he falls into our classifications. What an insult to God to use the things of man to classify and pigeon-hole Him! What arrogance on our part. This is HIS show baby, not ours. Packaging things of the world in a "Christian" wrapper doesn't change what's inside the package.
theway4321 1 year ago
it wasnt the real song all he did was add the beginning to one of his songs
edwardsfangirl 1 year ago