The Birth of Science in the West: Scientists believed in god

[lordcadburyhopkins]

Yeah, I love how it ends with that broad stroke about "that 19 century fraud materialism" whether or not these men believed in god is immaterial to the fact that in most of their cases, they would not even have been able publish as avowed atheists or anything but believers. Whether you are a believer or not, this video has an agenda and the very end shows it to be a rubbish one.

[warriorprince1010]

Science is basically the study of Gods work.

Imperfection, natural selection, adaption of life forms, evil, goodness are all part of Gods creation, and thus science.

[mwwolf62]

The point of the video for you atheists is to refute atheistic claims that believing in God disqualifies a man from being a scientist. As you can see many scientists believed and helped move the world forward through science. More and more scientists are seeing the foolishness of Macro-evolution and realizing that there had to be an intelligent cause for our universe. Since it is not infinite, it had to be created with purpose, and that my friends is our eternal soul. That is what I believe.

[ccchhheeelllssseeeaa]

Who knows what those scientists believed? Atheism, during the time of people like Newton and Kepler, was *punishable*! Politics shapes history; the spirit of the age, the zeitgeist, is very influential upon the interpretation of history, and what might seem so based upon literature may be an entirely inaccurate evaluation of those events. We will never know whether they truly believed or not.

[Cragnous]

All i can say is that i am glad that my children, and those that follow will never know that crap of religion.

[Cragnous]

God is a fiction. Anyone who spent their childhood rocking back and forth in a maddrassa, chanting the Quran and brainwashing themselves, cannot now say they have any ability to reason about it. If you are brainwashed to believe that God is a teapot, you will believe it. Let reason be your guide. Faith makes people fly planes into buildings.

Giving praise to God just makes you a psychotic sheep.

[loqutor]

Being a Christian who has accepted the Buddha as well as Christ, I am interested in the Qur'an and Islam, but I haven't made my mind up about it. The one thing that I cannot accept under any circumstances is people insulting ANY religion.

[johnclavis]

God is a fiction. Anyone who spent their childhood rocking back and forth in a maddrassa, chanting the Quran and brainwashing themselves, cannot now say they have any ability to reason about it. If you are brainwashed to believe that God is a teapot, you will believe it. Let reason be your guide. Faith makes people fly planes into buildings.

Giving praise to God just makes you a psychotic sheep.

[Thunderf00t]

maths physics and chemistry were all created by the greeks and egyptian, all polytheists. So what does this prove? that when u dont fully understand things, gods of the gaps have more appeal. Now there are very few gaps, which is why 90 % of the National Academy of Science (the best minds in the country) do not beleive in a god.

[AntichristComes]

@Thunderf00t "...which is why 90 % of the National Academy of Science (the best minds in the country)..."

More like, the best liars (i.e. evolution pushers) in the country... just like you are.

The Holy Bible is 100% fact, and never been proven to be wrong... and don't say, the Bible says, pi= 3, OR, the Earth is flat, when it doesn't say that. Bible prophecy has been 100% accurate from the beginning of time to the present day... and even you will bow down to Jesus Christ on Judgment Day.

[amarbleinspace]

religion is wicked nonsense. fuck religion and everything to do with it.

[loqutor]

Go ahead and believe that if you want. Just don't go ridiculing other people's beliefs. It's rude.

[POTHEADLEO]

notice the list tappers off tward the end and onlt like 2 names after 1900

[SilverPheonix360]

Don't you realize that you are blind you have no proof at all it is sacred. none , zip , nada. you are trying to convince me of a lie which is what all storys of a god are. lies . no i don't believe it is any more sacred then dog dung and may the world see this truth.

[setanta68]

God is creation and we are of God. When science can tell me how it all came about then come back to me, you have a fixed idea of how we evolved but where did the spark come from. What was the Big Bang?

[SilverPheonix360]

lol the fact that any text would say a god exists is proof enough to show it is a lie this include the bible quran and al other texts that proclaim such nonsense scientist or not belief in a god is nothing but ignorance of the obvious and denial of truth. it is sad that all of you who believe in a god waste your lives on such only to find out nothing for you end anf never gain a thing. and having lost your one chance you have nothing left.

[thinknact]

It would be fair then to assume you're an atheist?!

[Kenzofeis]

I think there is some being that I can call God, that is caring for us. I think there is some being that compete, and I know what side I choose. The first one.

[POTHEADLEO]

Thats fine you can have an imaginary friend, but when you die and nothing happens you just decay in the ground and also this video is naming people that lived over 100 years ago, yes thats what they belived in because theres has been over 100 years of scientific findings since then that disproves a god,

[JGET07]

Yeah... it is only modern biologists,etc(not all of them) who can accept an atheistic view of life.i think these scientists from the 1700's and 1800's,etc.. the ones who pioneered science,most of them, were the true scientists.

[tomjohnoman]

What a stupid video. Of course these people believe in God, they still live in the Dark Ages. Besides, Galileo when asked where God fit in his theory replied, there is no need to infer of God in my theory.

[dussault17]

"I do not feel obliged to believe that the same God who has endowed us with sense, reason, and intellect has intended us to forgo their use." Galileo. He believed in a higher power you know... Just didn't like the radical Christians who took the Bible literally.

[thinknact]

My friend, with all due respect, we have to understand that the only book that should and must be taken literally is a sacred book if any. Why? Because it's the "word of God" meaning no contaradictions and infallible and i am referring to original scriptures not to the altered. It's not being radical, I would say it's being orthodox!

[princesszin]

Tom, it is actually frightening that on the AiG site they actually put Galileo on their list!!!!

[mathomasdesign]

Einstein's quote.

full quote is:

"Science without religion is lame, religion without science is blind."

[baoho1982]

To do science is to investigate facts. Have you investigated the facts written in the Quran?

[thinknact]

baoho1982! The Holy Quran is supposed to be read daily by Muslims and has been memorized by thousands verbatim. You mentioned facts with science which is not always the case. Science involves theories, hypothisis and abstractions which are not concrete facts. Muslims are not against science but, we understand that the human intellect can never arrive at a sound metaphysic because it is deeply limited.

[princesszin]

thinknact, did you know that there are alterations in the text of the Qur'an?

[thinknact]

No alterations are in the Quran, I am sure there is a misunderstanding and I advise you to read it. The Quran is the only book with no author and the only book that has been memorized verbatim by thousands in the arabic language, this in itself should make the human being ponder and reflect. Read the Holy Quran, you owe it to yourself!

[princesszin]

there are alteration. read some literature on the subject

[exterminator006]

assalamu alaykum. can you tell us where did you get such informations so that we can read and and verify wether it's true or not? but i can assure you that the Quran is not altered. If you have proof for that, feel free to show it. but i'm sure that we muslims can refute that. thanks.

[princesszin]

the text of the Qur'an has been altered. check out the literature about it. that's what i did, too

[thinknact]

Fair enough, do yourself a favor and get the Quran and read it. Briefly, the Quran is to the bible as what the Gospels where to the Torah and please feel free to provide me with one contradiction in the Quran after reading thoroughly but do read it.

[Kenzofeis]

I have found several but I am too tired to begin...

[AntichristComes]

@thinknact "Briefly, the Quran is to the bible as what the Gospels where to the Torah"

The Quran is NOTHING to the Holy Bible, and teaches a completely different Jesus. My Jesus died for my sins on the cross. The Quran's Jesus never died on the cross. The Quran's Jesus was probably born in Mexico. My Jesus was born in Bethlehem, Israel, died on the cross in Jerusalem., and was raised from the dead on the 3rd day. Islam is a false religion, Allah is a false god, and Muhammad was a false prophet.

[Kenzofeis]

Like the Holy Goat and the stoning of adulteres verse thing? What if the Qur'an told muslims to smoke pot... I think I'd feel a little more comfortable.. and what if the cathoic church never existed

[thinknact]

Ok! You're too broad and I can't clearly understand what you're point is so please be specific. By the way, look up stoning in your bible Deutoronomy 23:21 unless you believe that you're living under "GRACE" then this does not apply and that alone would be a different topic.

[Kenzofeis]

The old testament is for a large part so murderous and macabre that I can't say I understand the notion that much of what is supposed to be God there really is... if he is supposed to be good and kind and want the best for us it just does'nt add up.

[ffunit]

we often confuse belief in religion woth belief in god it would be wise to assume that there is a god because all scientific evidence and theories lead to that asumption the belief that the universe is perpetual is a poor proof or it's imposibilty i think the arugment here is what we see god is. the religious god does not exist but the god that created the universe does

[thinknact]

What you stated is fair, but i must say to you that the God is one God, the God of Muhammad, Jesus and Moses peace be upon them all and so the one God "Allah" exalted is he, is the creator of all.

[dussault17]

We all owe it to eachother to fully inform ourselves before saying something completely ignorant. I've read many passages in the Qur'an. Very beautiful, devout religion based on love for everyone, including Jews and Christians.

[Kenzofeis]

"love for everyone, including Jews and Christians" ? Where did u find that?

[Kenzofeis]

Watch it... does'nt the Qur'an also tell u not to ponder and think, because it may make u doubt? Just like talking to and mingling with infidels.. ;P

[Kenzofeis]

hehehe good one... I have never read a book so self contradicting in my whole life

[exterminator006]

yup. day by day, more science facts in the Quran has been proven correct. One of the most famous science fact in the Quran that shocked the unbelievers of Islam is the embryology. Dr Keith Moore (one of the best embryology in the world) was also shocked how does something that can only be observed under an electron microscope was already explained in details in Quran 1400 years ago. Google it.

[Musla1]

Well, brainwashed to the extent that I've chosen to be. ; ) Be happy theres no inquisition around for both me and you...truth is subjective, but I like working with facts (even in my profession), they say the facts inevitably lead to truth. As for shoving things in orifices....nobody asked you to.

[thinknact]

Dear reader, we do know for a fact that many philosophers and scientists such as Plato, Aristotle, Gallileo, kepler, Copernicus, etc have all contradicted one another at some point or another, in other words at the end it's only conjecture and theories. Find the truth by reading the Quran.

[Jeremias1111]

Dear thinknact, when you are learning your new knowledge contradicts yesterday´s mistakes.

When suggesting reading a religious book instead of doing science you vote against increasing the knowledge of humanity. Congratulations!

[Musla1]

The age of reason, exposes the errors of the church and christianity. You can appreciate why numbers are dwindling in church goers. It does not expose Islam in this way in fact it supports much of Islamic teachings.

[rth10260]

Interesting how you only listed 19th century scientists as reference for believers in a god. Especially Einstein was not a believer of the Christian God, but at best a deist.

Considering that your deity is thought to be the same as the Christian one, how come that in your long list of early scientists there were no Muslim counterparts to be seen ?

[BestestMoron]

Albert Einstein, as great as he was, was also wrong in many scientific aspects.... quoting him to justify barbaric religious madness his pathetic.