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  • carter

  • ever one gives Spencer abuse about '03 but straight after Mortlock done that Spencer set up a great try and nailing the conversion making everything equal after that it was the aussies that were just the better team on the day

  • Carlos Spencer is the man!!!

  • Dans just a MAN but Carlos is KING

  • what's wrong with you dumb fuck! spencer is the best! carlos spencer!!!!!! better flair, running game, kicking game, play-making skills! all carter can do is kick penalty goals and conversions!

  • all i can say is....spencer has got way more flair than carter...although carter is the safer option

  • spencer was definatly one of the best first fives in world rugby but what carter brings is on somewhat of a higher scale. carters all round game is amazing including his kicking hes very hard to fault

  • why have New Zealand have all these great rugby players but have never won a World Cup?

  • @Waagyu ?? New Zealand won the very first World Cup in 1987

  • carlos spencer was great , only thing carter had over him was his kicking game , if spencer's kicking game was spot on like carter's he would be unstoppable

  • i like watering plants. it is nice.

  • carlos spencer in rugby was the equivalent to cristiano ronaldo in soccer

  • Spencer was an amazingly instinctive player. Throw the game plan out the window....he was an opportunist. If you like your rugby unpredictable and entertaining with a dash of cheeky arrogance thrown in, Carlos was your man. Carter is an extremely talented by-the-book player with wonderful skills. For my money Carlos is the man....underrated by the purists who didn't get that sometimes it pays to play the game in front of you....whatever it takes. I miss you Los!

  • Dan Carter is generally the better player, but Spencer was a better playmaker.

  • King Carlos! Greatest Ever.

  • King Carlos was the man Dan Carter is the man. Without Dan our chances of winning the RWC would be slim

  • The last vid of him choosing instead to touch the ball down by the sideline showed just how confident he was to win going into the world cup that year. That was a slap in the face to every cantab fan out there. Those rugby media wannabe arm-chair experts saw carlos spencer's style of rugby as well as the over-confidence that came with him as an affront to how they thort the game should be played at the top levels. Thats why the cantab quota system was introduced

  • Mainstream media have consistently tried to paint king carlos as a hot/cold playmaker and for the most part NZders have cum to believe it. Truth is that most rugby enthusiasts luv to hate him because he played an arrogant style of rugby with the skills and brain to back it up. To them he was the proverbial inconsistant cheeky darky of 1st five rugby which hurt their pride. That's why he courted bad press because they couldnt accept that he was that good

  • used to love watching this guy player , my fav player

  • Fuk carter. Carlos left a legacy all aucklanders will remmeber for the erest of there lives. P.S btw Blues just beat Crusaders 24-22 in the Super 15 HAH..

  • Check out that last kick woohooooo!!!!!!!!!!1

  • Carlos was gud...but he was a one hit wonder......Dan Carter has been the more consistant over the years.....

  • What difference does it make what song it is? Carter is mechanically perfect and Spencer is a true genius

  • Dan Carter from 1:37...wow

  • carter

  • spencer will never be replaced

  • daniel carter is a way better kiciker but carlous spencer proves he's the playmaker in the game

  • i like them both...if only spencer had not gone for contract n still kud have played bak in new zealand...oh! yeah! cey him n carter wud have bein a gud combination in da rugby world cup....

  • Carlos Spencer had more flare than any other rugby player ever.

    His Blues squad from 03 was the best club ever.

    Daniel Carter on the other hand has almost the perfect balance of everything.

    And His Crusaders squad from 06 is surely up there in the best club teams ever.

    Carter = Alround Brilliance

    Spencer = Playmaking Magic

  • Wilkinson is slightly overated as an allround flyhalf in my opinion. Sure he is the best goal kicker in history and an amazing clutch kicker without a doubt. He was also rock solid in defense(except when carter made him look silly in 05) but the rest of his game is good but not great especially without the dominant pack he was behind back in 03.

  • Dan Carter surpasses Carlos Spencer in all areas except the famous dummy and run Carlos sold so brilliantly.

    Spencer was the man in Super 12 but as far as test rugby goes he was mostly a disapointment.

  • are either of them as talented ad juan marin hernandez??

  • Carter use to be Spencers understudy prior to 2005. Times have change for sure

  • In my mind carter is a better goal kicker, and Carlos is better with ball in hand

    But in rugby are both awesome.

  • Carter is calculated brilliance

    Spencer was a Genius.

    As with most genius's though, he was at least 50% mad, & because of that Spencer is my favourite player ever. He could & would do things no-one else would think of, he read the game faster than anyone else & could make magical moments out of thin air. Carter can make breaks, create back line moves better than anyone around at the moment. 2 brilliant players, but Carlos was brittle & because of that, I think Carter is the better of the 2.

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  • Wilkinson when he was on form, most solid fly half ever. Out of Carlos and Spencer I prefer them both ball in hand to Wilko, but it has to be King Carlos in my mind.

  • carter and mertins for me....carlos is like quade cooper...it's either brilliant or the opposite. mertins was ice cold and carter is good all rounder

  • King Carlos is for me!

  • I like the history in play. Mertins and carlos use to duel it out at times for the no 10 pos in the ABs. Then there understudies carter and mc alister did the same. Thats also a canterbury vs auckland battle or even south isl vs north. Mertins tipped things in his favour towards the end and so did carter. Carter has taken it even further and just ruled mc alister out of the competition all together.

  • Carter is gonna be a great 10 .

    But Spencer will always be King Carlos .

  • mhm carter is way more consistant which makes him better in a game where its all about winning now, which sorta sucks because now its boaring, we n4eed more spencers, to bring the game back to life.

  • argh its kinda true dan is the man. greatest no. 10 in history, got the best all round game. 3rd greatest place kicking fly half (steyn, sexton), 1st equal free hand kicker (quade) , 2nd best defensive five eigth (behind johny), 2nd best playmaker (behind quade cooper) but overall hes the best

    definately would be in my dream team number 10 jersey

  • Spencer was bloody talented but lets be honest it's a one horse race, Carter is the man end of story

  • best fly half's

    5. morne steyn

    4. larkham

    3. spencer

    2. carter

    1. wilkinson

  • @44redman1 Carter is no. 1. He hasn't sustained a fraction of the injuries Wilko has because he doesn't throw himself into stupid tackles etc. Carter's only 60 behind him in all time points with at least 3 years of good rugby left in him. Wilko has 7 internation tries, Carter has 28....I don't know what your opinion is based upon....

  • @LOUSE37 my opinion is based upon the fact that jonny has the international all time highest points score, he's been part of a team that won a world cup and he's got a far better kicking record than carter, but in truth when carlos spencer had his moments even if it was only like five minutes of genius no one could touch him.

  • @vegatablesouptom Spencer's consistency was absolutely dreadful, he fluked around with a bit of flare now and then but we'll see now this time next year when the AB's win the World Cup and Dan Carter is 200 points up on Johnny the only thing you'll be able to say is that JW has a better kicking record? I still find that hard to believe but if you can find me some percentage stats or something that'd be great!

  • @LOUSE37 fair enough, like i already said, he had moments of brilliance and then times of absolute failure, and yeh carter is king of ten now, but he wasn't back when i last commented :L

  • cArter is an anagram for karate.

  • 2010 vs ireland first test at new plymouth was the return of DC! his form was ammaazziinggg

  • carters awesome but spencer was so exciting to watch!

  • this is breaking benjamin u dumbass if u gonna post a vid get the song rite, but good vid tho

  • @PTT998 but tears of dont fall is after breaking benjamin it automatically shows up as tears dont fall so dont call me a dumbass not my error !

  • @matt2k6wales then say in the info that its the second song, get it rite buddy

  • @PTT998 well i didnt get round to it ! :L

    so i didnt get anything wrong to rite ? :L

  • @matt2k6wales that guys a retard

  • @duncantout hallelujah !!

  • @PTT998 you need ta chill buddy haha

  • @PTT998 ur a fag

  • @PTT998 your a bit of an arsehole bro!!! great song selections and video....

    Thats all that really matters

    gotta love the ruggers of these two great players bring on 2011

  • Carter is better by far and was more consistent..... spencer had his gud and and the not soo gud days...

  • Is this a fucken joke????????

    Dan Carter is THE KING of the number 10 jersey. Probably the greatest ever. Mehrtens would be up there with Carter who was another brilliant player, but Carlos was just another GREEDY BALL HOG who thought he was the man when we all knew he was shit. Reminds me a lot of BENJI MARSHALL. Watch these two and you'll see what I mean LOL.

  • @colbran oh come on man, he was a great play maker and at his best he was THE best but unfortunatley he was too inconsistant, and carter king of 10? you're forgetting fucking wilko mate

  • @vegatablesouptom you comparing wilkinson to carter?

    ahahahhaha. everytime they have played, carter has run circles around him.

  • @hustleboy62 back in 2003 wilkinson was the best fly half, daniel carter was second, but after the world cup wilko went downhill, carter is/was still awesome though

  • @vegatablesouptom WTF you must surely be a vegetable mate LMFAO. Anyone with a normal brain would pick Carter over Wilko any fucken day!!! I suggest you actually watch a few games before you comment. Even better start a poll about who is better and I guarantee you Carter is KING.

  • @vegatablesouptom Carter is no. 1. He hasn't sustained a fraction of the injuries Wilko has because he doesn't throw himself into stupid tackles etc. Carter's only 60 behind him in all time points with at least 3 years of good rugby left in him. Wilko has 7 internation tries, Carter has 28....I don't know what your opinion is based upon....

  • Carter is the best and everyone should know that by now. Spencer was good but he was a bit of a fag

  • @99cheesemonkey id like to see you call him a fag to his face lol

  • carlos could set the stage alight like a magician, but if it didnt come off oh well,

  • Carter needs to hit some form...hes been crap during and after the 07 WC

  • 6:30 WTFFF

  • Daniel carter is like crap now compared to 3 years ago(since his leg injury).I like both but Carlos is the best.

  • @darko123456 Carlos was good but lets not get carried away. Carter has far surpassed him.

  • spencer was a great player carter is better

  • Spencer is a great player but he was inconsistant in his goal kicking. Carter is the complete package, I have never seen a first five with all the skills that Carter has, but Spencer was a close second..if only he could kick goals better...

  • yeah i agree mehrtens was great but he doesnt see everything carter sees carters vision and understanding of the game is much more intact not to take anything away from spencer nor mehrtens but carter is simply the best

  • Your kidding right?, Andrew Mehrtens is better than Carlos by far, so is Dan Carter in terms of abillities, Carter is a smart thought thinker setting up brilliant tries, carlos is good also but dudes, Mehrtens is a genius

  • Carter is better, Spencer had big ups and downs where as Carter is just always up, he rarely plays a bad game ever at any level. Thats the only thing that put Carter on top his ability to be consistantly brilliant. They had equal skill but Spencer left his at home sometimes.

  • spencer was awesome but carter is the greatest flyhalf to ever grace the rugby pitch.

  • @hustleboy62 spencer was bad ass, but in the same game could do the dumbest shit i have ever seen. 03 world cup, intercept pass to mortlock, 4 more years boys.

  • Spencer is THE best ever!! Never have I seen anyone more difficult to tackle when they have the ball in 2 hands (apart from jason Robinson). He doesnt look as illusive as he is - class and time.

    Carter is amazing too but although a different style of player it's gota be Spencer all the way.

    Though being English we'd take either of them playing at 50%!!!!

  • spencer was great...

    but dan carter is in a class of his own. greatest flyhalf to ever play the game.

  • Dan Carter number 1 easily

  • people...Spencer is the best 10 that your country have ever had...

  • when spencer was on he was brilliant, but when he was under pressure which was most of the time he was absolute shit

  • @danbuck333 gota agree bro that just showed he was human but noy when he was on his game he was the best first 5 ever. difference being DC is way more reliable and consistant

  • Spencer has that sort of 'Badass' personality.

    Carter is a bit too clean, but he is an amazing kicker.

  • anyone who thought spencer was nothing was just a biased south islander. He was the shining light in a pretty talentless back line for a long time.

  • all blacks are the biggest

    spencer+carter=best first five

  • Carter is a better all round player so therefore a better player then Spencer but Spencer's x-factor could turn a game upside down with one little move. However i agree with MrKjc100. RUGBY IS DEAD. The video shows both players making breaks and scoring tries. we don't see that kind of play anymore

  • WTF!!! u cannot compare spencer to carter... all spencer could do was banana kicks to no-one, and maybe throw the odd no-looking pass every now and again... spencer is nothing..

  • TheFiendling your such a prick. yeah test matches are important don't have to o over the top with your retarded sayings like 'see you in o-town bitch' and your obsession wth guys suckin your balls. your just an embaressment to yourself and your country. Pahaa.

  • Wheres O Town? Im Carlos' cousin from Levin (Hometown) , I like Carter also but they are 2 very different players. Anyone heard of Andrew Merhtens? lol!

  • rugby is dead

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  • How about you lick my nuts loser!! You will see, Time has told the and look at all the history not just the last 30 years! I never said world cup matches mean more than a test but i said ALL MATCHES MATTER AND THEY ARE NOT FREINDLYS!!!! And fuckhead i aint an embarrasment to NZ i am the glory on NZ MAORI BLOOD and you can suck my balls you cocksucking piece of shit!!!!!!! See you in O-Town biatch!

  • @TheFiendling god ur an embarrisment to NZers u dumbcunt

  • Eat me little girl!!!

  • I hope spencer comes home to finish his career... even if its only for 1 season with the blues or auckland.

  • Dan 'Wanabe Wilkinson' Carter should stick to his underwear and let King Carlos run the show

  • Barry John :D

    nah but Carter is the man in modern terms at least!

  • both great players

    but dan carter is on a whole new level. perhaps the greatest flyhalf to ever play the game.

  • Lets not go nuts, Larkham and Wilkinson were better to name just two from the pro era.

  • Your dreamin fuckwit!!!!!

  • Yeah, you're right. I must be dreaming, friendlies are just as important as world cup matches.

  • Hey Thefondling - "O-town" - sounds 'O'wesome.

    BTW what is your obsession with wanting other blokes to a) "lick my nuts" or b) "suck my balls "?

    You want that sort of treatment you going to have to ask nicely.

    Tosspot.

  • whoever doesnt know their music

  • the song is diary of jane by breaking benjiman you tosser

  • who are u calling a tosser ?

  • @Jagerbombs91 i know i put it on there idiot !

  • Two very different players. Both unbelievable. No need to debate just enjoy the pure talent.

  • i completely agree with you. two amazing players who give pleasure to the people that watch them playing

  • Mr ripley wake the fuk up u stupid bitch carters had 1 serious injury since hes been an ab douche bag. Carter can goal kick tackle chip kick create tries from nothing and sprint faster then most 10s Im not putting spencer down he was a great player a very great player but carter is in a warld of his own and it will be a long time before any1 can put themselves in the same legues as him.

  • LOL any POM that tries to compare to any ALL BLACK is kidding themselves... LAME TOSS POTS!!!! CANT COMPARE THE TWO OF THE GREATS!!! WILKINSON IS GAY!!!!

  • wilkinson's gay is he...yeh cos winning a world cup means your gay, something which both spencer and carter have done.

    you fucking goon. you obviously know FUCK all

  • He's won more world cups than the entire All Black squad combined.

  • One world cup is nothing. All Blacks have dominated the sport for 100yrs you losers, hahahahahahahahaa!!!!

  • Have they? How come they haven't been world champs for over 20 years?

  • Dude you obviously know jack shit about the sport so just shut your mouth otherwise just keep putting your foot in it. I really dont want to repeat myself over and over again as you continue to do but have a look at the history books!!!!

    AB's will alwayys be better than the whinging poms!!!

    Just wait till the next world cup smart ass!! Its in Nz and guess who will win it!!!

    Not Johnny" HOMO" Wilkinson thats for sure!!!

    HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

  • No, I know quite a bit about the sport and the All Blacks are less successful than England, South Africa and Australia when it comes to world cups, the games biggest stage, SA having won two, Australia having won two and England having won one (NZ won it when the Springboks weren't in it so its not nearly as big an achievment). NZ are good when the pressure isn't on and in friendlys but come world cup time when all teams are focused the wheels always come off. It always makes me laugh.

  • OK and how is it you neglect to mention that the world cup is at a young stage compared to how long they have played the sport!!!! You think the recent years count against how many tests they have won, your kidding yourself mate!!! Just like the rugby league in 08 when NZ won but that wont stop Australia always being favourites heading into any much reguardless of the world cup, so wake up to yourself!!! You really dont know anything do you??

  • And besides the only real competition is the bledisloe/ tri nations which the useless poms have nothing to do with cause they are shithouse!!!

  • If the only real competition is the Tri Nations how come the Wallabies were knocked out at the last two world cups by England while the All Blacks have been humiliated by France on more than one occasion come world cup time? You really don't know anything do you?

  • No, the All Blacks have been very good at times, they just don't win the big games when the pressure is greatest, its a fact whether you like it or not. Plus its not like Australia are serial chokers in the league world cup, they've won nine out of 13 which is a 69% success rate, the All Blacks have won one in six which is a 16% success rate while the only one they won didn't have the Boks so doesn't really count. All Blacks are good in friendlies, fall apart on the big stage.

  • There are no friendlies in Rugby union every test means something its not like soccer.... EVERY TEST MATCH MEANS SOMETHING IN UNION YOU DWEEB!

  • Yeah, its nice to win friendlies but anyone who says friendlies matter more than world cup matches are fooling themselves. Teams often send second string sides on end of year tours to play test matches, I wouldn't descrube them as being more important than when the biggest prize in world rugby is at stake.

  • So who just beat the shitty poms??? hahahahahahaha Wilkinson is shit, cant even beat Australia let alone NZ!!!!! Fuckin lame dweebs!!!!!!

  • Carlos the best!

  • Both are winners

  • God! R u serious, Why compare Carter and carlos...4 Fuk sake Carlos aint that good!!!

  • I remember watching carlos play 4 auckland against Otago in a Npc game, he scored like 5 trys, one was when he rolled the ball up his arm, but it looked like he passed it an for a few seconds ya didnt know where the ball was but he had it an scored. An he scored from the carlos knee kick thing, that I think has been outlawed in the game now as a knock on.

    DC better all round player.

    Carlos better at attacking an creating space, he was hot an cold player though.

  • Probably the most accurate assessment of the video!!!

  • Carter isnt a tackling machine hes injury prone,,King Carlos is a impact player and can create space for players around him and himself thats what makes a better no 10..nobody picks a 1st 5 for their tackling skill anyway.

  • carlos isnt fit to even be named in the same breath as the king of the falcons Johnny Wilkinson

  • Spencer hands down better no 10.. Carter better all round.

    Put Spencer 10 Carter 12 carve up any back line.

  • ?? Dude Carter is so much better b/c he can actually tackle...show me a tackle by spencer the pussy!

  • whos better daniel carter or matt giteau.

  • Right now, or when they're both in top form?

  • hmm hard choice giteau is playing so good at the moment id have to say him at this moment in time but when carters at his best its very hard to say

  • ill say carter was better in 2005 espicially in the lions tour but dan is just recently returned so hes still getting used to it.

  • I think Spencer was better but can u imagine what u'd get if u mixed the two..scary

  • No carters better he is the best all round rugby player in the world but spencers rite behind him IMO.

  • the last kick....WOW

  • This is an awesome video. Whats the name of the first song?

  • diary of jane by breaking benjamin

  • play Carlos at 10, Carter at 12..

    Problem solved.

  • As every bugger else has said they are different players but Spencer is faster bigger and better with the ball, whereas Carter has an amazing boot!

  • there totaly difrnt players.. only similarity is there both num 10s.. its like compairing jona lomu with jason robinson... totaly different, but both super players.

  • showboat vs one of the best 10s ever, really no contest

  • dan carter is so overrated by the rugby mad nz media..carlos spencer is million times better nd will 4ever b da greatest 1st 5 nzs eva seen..h8 da abs now

  • Cant match these 2 guys, both play a different game, Both are top Class Players.

  • Neither as good as wilkinson in his prime :D

  • haha yeah right. respect fir wilko but noway

  • shame he only played in one game

  • true that.

  • Christ.... when Dan Carter is finished with rugby the British Army should hire him for the Artillery ... he'd land bombs on a six pence.

  • Yep, two of the greats, one of them plays rugby like a muthafucker and the other was on a toffiepop advert, hard luck carlos

  • where is carlos now??

  • carlos is at gloucster

  • does anyone know who sings this song?

  • bullet for my valentine - tears dont fall

    +

    Breaking benjamin - diary of jane

  • I agree, Dan have a amazing goal kick, but Spencer gives an amazing speed to the game.

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  • They are both great players but the one thing that u cant deny is that carlos is the most creative player to ever grace a rugby feild. He is a rugby GOD.

  • i think....carlos has skills in magic...dan is good at kicking...when they corner hm n try to shut him they can...but in carlos he creates the gap...while dan carter finds the gap:)

  • When Spencer has momentum with him, the attacking rugby he plays is second to none. Carter is just far more all round. He can play in any situation, tho it might not instantly result in a try, and Carter is not a weakness in defence either.

  • what is the name of the second song??

  • bullet for my valentine- tears dont fall

  • well im not gonna put a florida song on there o anything like that .

    how gay would that be ???

  • uhhhh serious, theres no contest its carter

  • watching spencer was always exciting, but carter was a bit more sensible in tough situations. I don't think one is better than the other, but i would have chosen Spencer for all out attacking rugby.

  • Merthens controlled games better than them both, but i love spencer cos he's just pure magic.

    Merthens & marshall was one of the best 9/10 pairing ive ever seen.

  • lets be honest new zealand have been awsome in the number 10 postion  grant fox,spencer,merhtens and carter are all world class. in my opinion marshall was the best scrumhalf ever ! i was extremely upset when he left my regional side the ospreys :)