This is an AMAZING guitar solo, Hackett has my "favorite" stamp, but this is just through the roof! I saw DS do this thirty years ago, he's only gotten better. So few could ever step up and say he is a guitarist for Genesis. I am sure he has Steve's admiration and respect cause ANY musician could respect this performance.
impresionante la base sinfónica, la mejor época creativa de la banda !!!!! puro sentimiento ! acompañado por eximios músicos una delicia para los oídos !!
First of all, Tony Banks wrote the melody. He plays it in the piano break, and Hackett takes it from there in the guitar solo. It's nothing but the same licks repeated over and over again. He did an awesome job of course. Secondly, this one is an AMAZING solo. Daryl is the man. Much better than playing the same old melody after all these years. Things need to be renewed from time to time.
This isn't a bad solo by any means, but it doesn't come close to having the feel that Hackett puts into his. Granted Hackett wrote it, but still.. I won't complain about a nod to the old days though. Glad they're attempting to keep their creative era alive.
Genesis after Hackett left was never as creative a band as they were with him. Im not even sure how much Daryl Stuermer contributed in the studio after Hackett left. He was their for their tours and he is a good live player but yes, it was Hackett who was the musical gem of that band! Their songs got simple and more pop orientated and sold more but they were never as great without Steve Hackett!
YES it does matter who the better guitar player is......Stuermer would NOT be playing it if HACKETT did not write it...........So it makes a huge difference. I am not saying that Stuermer is not a great player which he is. I am saying that it was NOT his talent that created most of the songs that he plays with Genesis, at least the old ones. Steve Hackett is a very under rated guitar player. He came up with a lot of techniques that he never received credit for in the main stream...
Steve Hackett created different ways to coax new sounds out of the electric guitar. Then DS had to remain true to the original while contributing his own skill. FOR 30 YEARS. Give him credit for that, he only wants to play Genesis music, not create it.
It doesn't really matter who the better guitarist is, Stuermer or Hackett. What's important is that this is a superb guitar solo from an extremely gifted musician.
Respond to this video... The important thing about Genesis? Whether it is the drums, the bass, the lead guitar or even the flute, every single person can make that instrument talk to you. I mean TALK. Maybe Phil's drums are the best example, but everybody else, whether a member of the band or just for tours, does exactly the same thing.
@beinndorainjames Actually the most important thing for me is the person who wrote the original solo. That is all that matters, anyone can play another man's solo. Writing one of this caliber takes another mind all together.
no way is daryl better than hackett! what are you on? daryl wanks basic scales, while hackett creates beautiful atmospheres and melodies. not to mention that steve is an amazing classical player. hackett is one of the most influential guitarists of his period, and the second best in prog rock ever.
@corum428 This is the Genesis that we like as a majority. Hackett was great for sure, but this is different, and still an as great Genesis sound. And Stuermer is fantastic, he did the same solo in the Old Medley in the Way We Walk concert, and it was even smoother and better, in my opinion, got me more feelings than the Hackett era
@patallah Steve Hackett is just in another level, you can't compare him to this guy. His solo in the album version of FoF is a masterpiece, this is just a great solo. Genesis ended when he left, Without Peter Gabriel and without him, they lost complete track of their work. Are you seriously comparing Selling England By The Pound with Invisible Touch?! Daryl Stuermer isn't even a member of Genesis!
not bad Daryl...not bad at all.....for once he has a great Hackett sound coming through that Fender. Thank god for Italians and their love of Genesis. ....What a crowd and show.
Does anyone like the studio version intro better? I do! this is genius but i`m hoping that they can play like the studio version in the intro som other time :)
i prefer the steve hackets solo,tis is notr bad but, it seems that has to do more with speed, the onther one, is the kind of solo that you can almost feel entering in your body,and laying like an insect
This tour is a valuable one ,because Phil has retired ,because of medical peoblems and hearing problems ,he cant play drums anymore so this 2007 reunion will most likely be Genesis,s last appearance on stage together
The problem with Gabriel and Collins is that it has become all about ego. Conversely Hackett, who I know personally, is understated and an inextricable part of the original band. But that's life. Genesis were greater than the sum of their parts. Hackett on his own is a tad dour, Collins has a good voice and is a good on drums but he's a jerk and Gabriel is a toff with an attitude. The tout ensemble was magnificent however.
e mi permetto di aggiungere, andate a vedere nei video correlati Genesis Live Tour Roma 2007 Medley Selling England...in questa versione qui, che è stata prodotta, hanno eliminato tutta la batteria di Collins nel pezzo in 8/4 + 13/8 perché si sente chiaramente che nella presa diretta non azzecca un fill che sia uno!!
possiamo dire quello che vogliamo, artritici o smaglianti, azzeccati o fuori luogo, prog o non prog (signori treccani, qualcuno ha la definizione di prog che si adatti a tutti i gruppi che ne fanno parte?!?!?) ma loro sono loro, lo potevano fare, l'hanno fatto e a loro il merito. l'unica cosa che sinceramente non mi piace sono i suoni "patacconi" tipo anni '80 che banks ha applicato anche ai vecchi pezzi...
I feel very sad listening to pieces like Firth of Fifth played in this way... this guys (?) should have the good taste to not play old pieces like that, at least in this awful way; Collins is (or was ?) an excellent drummer and he would have had to confine himself to do it and nothing else, even after Peter's resignation too... mayor responsabilities of the Genesis (artistical) fall must be ascribed almost solely if not completely to him... [to be continued]
The most amazing thing about it for me is the fact that Phil Collins and Chester Thompson are playing EXACTLY the same, that means there is no improvisation on the drum piece, it's all composed.
mi dispiace molto per Banks che ritengo ancora l'unico onesto (in tutti i sensi) dei 3 rimasti...
in quanto al chitarrista che dovrebbe fare le veci di Steve assomiglia più ad uno di quei electric jazz guitarist tanto in voga nella metà degli anni '80 (tipo quelli dell'etichetta GRP) che ad un musicista di progressive (anzi, direi che qui ci sta come i cavoli a merenda... ma cosa chiedergli quando chi dovrebbe dare l'esempio si comporta invece in tale vergognosa maniera). (follow in English)
che pena mi fa sentire pezzi come Firth Of Fifth eseguiti in questa maniera, ma anche tanta tristezza... questi signori dovrebbero avere almeno il buon gusto di non suonare più certi pezzi, almeno in questo modo; Collins è (od era ?) un eccellente batterista e avrebbe dovuto limitarsi a fare quello e basta, anche dopo la dipartita di Peter... le maggiori responsabilità della caduta rovinosa dei Genesis sono da attribuire quasi esclusivamente se non completamente a lui... (segue)
@MrSandrino70 GRANDE! Tutti ad attaccarli solo perchè hanno suonato dei vecchi pezzi oppure non sono più in forma come prima... non dimentichiamoci che il signor Collins (cito lui perchè è quello di cui ho più informazioni) ha avuto problemi cardiaci, e già da parecchi anni prima di questa performance gli era stato tassativamente proibito di suonare la batteria! E nonostante tutto lui lo ha fatto, e lo ha fatto alla grande!
hmmm i was enjoying that looking forward to the solo then at 1:50 the solo went tits up the guy is a good guitarist for a stand in but who the fuck gave him permission to add-lib through probably the best genesis guitar solo ever the fans wont to hear genesis not you daryl stuermer!!!!!
Io c'ero a Roma e posso confermare che Phil Collins si cartò clamorosamente andando fuori tempo e mandando di conseguenza fuori tempo anche il povero Tony Banks. Ovviamente nella versione su dvd questo errore è stato sapientemente corretto con la registrazione di un loro concerto dove invece nessuno si era sbagliato. Se guardate bene, non a caso le prime inquadrature sono larghe e lontane, proprio per mantenersi il più possibile sul generico... e certo, xchè non riguardano il concerto di Roma!
MA VOI C'ERAVATE AL CONCERTO ? BEH IO SI' E POTETE CHIEDERE A CHIUNQUE ERA PRESENTE E CAPISCE UN PO' DI MUSICA SE QUELLO CHE DICO NON E' VERO. GUARDATE QUESTO: DIGITATE PHIL COLLINS SCAZZA E SENTITE DA 0:42 A 0:52. 'NCOMPETENTI !!! MA COMUNQUE W I GENESIS (ALMENO FINO AL 1975!).
Yep DS nails it. But he didnt create it. Comparing and excellent performer with a creative one is like saying "this cherry is so much better than that strawberry" they are both wonderfully sweet, but different.
If you go listen to the original studio cut, its superior, not as embellished but it it is the raw creative urge that made this performance possible.
I`m proud to say I witnessed Genesis play on this world tour at Old Trafford, England. Had to Pay £130 for my ticket. Would of been a bargain at twice the price.
The best of ROME 2007... full of feeling, exellent technique, best performance for daryl in guitar.... and phil collins just laughing and enjoying this AMAZING song... chicken skin at 2:50.... I LOVE GENESIS
nooooo ! sul video ufficiale hanno rimontato il pezzo di chissà quale altra registrazione. Io c'ero, e tra 0.40 e 0.58 sono andati completamente fuori tempo, su You Tube ci sono diversi esempi. Certo, questo dimostra che si può sempre sbagliare. Guardate Phil come se la ride (e anche gli altri). Beh, comunque li si può perdonare ? Dispiace però proprio all'ultimo concerto del tour, che pensi ormai suonino a memoria (e forse qui è stato l'errore). W I GENESIS (però cazzo Phil.......)
This is always Darryl's big moment since they don't play the knife or Musical box that much anymore. I do agree he doesn't have the entire feel for the solo. You notice it more watching hearing Hackett play it with his band.
I've enjoyed genesis immensly over the years and the original version of the guitar solo on this wonderful peice was sublime and it sort of grew organically out of the keyboard solo. skilled though he may be daryl sturmer wrecks this version. I might like it if i didn't know how good the original was.
In my opinion, Genesis kind of started to sell out around 1980 and after. Can you really compare Seconds Out to Invisible Touch? Sure they gained several million more fans, but they alienated many of those fans who had been with them since From Genesis to Revelation. It makes me sad to see that they only do excerpts of their best songs now, especially Suppers Ready or Cinema Show. And, no offense to Daryl Stuermer or Anthony Phillips, but Steve Hackett was the best guitarist for them.
I'd like for those critiscists lo show me a new band who can perform half as good as this. Genesis creation can't just be touched and Phil's a living legend, just go critizise Led Zeppelin´s tired old fakes...
I would liked to have seen how Francis Dunnery would have interpreted this with the Bhoys behind him. Oh well. Hackett is brilliant. Daryl just regurds it. But Francis has the 'jen ne se quoi' (sp?) sensibility (not to be confused with ability, as they all have it) to raise the bar on this and many other Genesis tracks. I wish they could have worked it out.
@johnnythelowery I thought this guy was pretty amazing and yet not identical. The WORST thing you could do would be to cram a bunch of extra notes in there.
@ajdicks: Dunnery is a unique talent and Daryl....he's good, but, the word Journeyman comes to my mind. Not his fault-he has to play in Hackett's spirit. I believe they looked really closely at Francis. Very closely indeed. Dunnery would have 'replaced' Hackett instead of filling for him.
People get wrapped up in what a guitar 'can' do when what really matters is what they choose to do. Technique is secondary to creativity. Hackett's style was essential to Genesis. Just see how they changed when he left. They lost the haunting quality in their songs. You can hear it in Hackett's solo albums. Struemner is great, but in the end he's a studio mercenary. He had nothing to do with the creation and formation of the bands sound and wrote none of these unforgettable passages.
"Needledick"! Love it. Yeah, Phil can't play as fast as he used to. He still has incredible groove, though. And this is a great performance of the Firth Of Fifth instrumental section.
Was there any need for that comment? They were hardly going to play the entirety of Firth of Fifth, it was a nod to another medley they did on the '92 tour. I suppose you were expecting them to do the whole of Behind The Lines or do the whole of Cinema Show, needledick? My point was that Phil Collins can't play like that or sing in those keys any more, but I guess your musical wisdom didn't catch that one.......What are all the dots for? Tumbleweed? Prick
Ah I get it, you're a purile Peter Gabriel era fan. I like that era too, but I went to see the era I grew up listening to, post Duke. So yes, please have your opinion and if you don't like mine then don't read it. Simples Pcccth!
Didn't they mess up some of the chords in the beginning though and what you hear on the DVD is dubbed over from another concert.. I guess even they aren't perfect. Manchester was though - so thanks again guys for a fantastic night!
Oh, I LOVE when Phil smiles like that! They had such a blast. Wish they'd come closer to me, I'm scared this is the last tour and I've wanted to see them live for 20 plus years.
@lifeseeker82 It's such and amazing song... every time i hear it i wonder how somebody could imagine something like this... the harmony of the keyboards... the drums... the guitar solo, and of course, the bass line: basic, but perfect.
This is an AMAZING guitar solo, Hackett has my "favorite" stamp, but this is just through the roof! I saw DS do this thirty years ago, he's only gotten better. So few could ever step up and say he is a guitarist for Genesis. I am sure he has Steve's admiration and respect cause ANY musician could respect this performance.
sselden8 5 days ago
What the f#ck is this solo ? How could he make a shit like this after what Steve made ?
iDeimonFTW 1 week ago
Con Stuermer o Hackett aun no entiendo porque carajo este solo de guitarra no esta en cualquier top ten si es de lo mas sublime.
gonzataker 1 week ago
GRACIAS DIOS POR HABER VIVIDO Y HABERME TRASPASADO POR ESTAS BESTIAS CREATIVAS.
MUSICA DEL ALMA, MUSICOS SUBLIMES, FORMADOS, DESDE LA CUNA.
LA MEJOS MUSICA DEL SIGLO 20 GENESIS ES PARA SIEMPRE, MUSICA QUE SE TOCA CON EL ALMA Y SE ESCUCHA CON EL ESPIRITU.
CADA TEMA UNA OBRA CONCEPTUAL CADA CANCION UN LIBRO CANTADO, CADA SILENCIO CON SENTIDO Y SENTIMIENTO.
GENESIS ME ACOMPAÑASTE EN MI INFANCIA EN MI ADOLESCENCIA Y EN MI VIDA.
GRACIAS DIOS POR TANTO TALENTO.
greccoclaudio1 3 weeks ago
impresionante la base sinfónica, la mejor época creativa de la banda !!!!! puro sentimiento ! acompañado por eximios músicos una delicia para los oídos !!
jircho08 1 month ago in playlist Genesis
I was there....never forget....
rudess84 1 month ago
Both of them are great guitarists. I wouldn't complain that much.
stevedabestperiod 1 month ago
First of all, Tony Banks wrote the melody. He plays it in the piano break, and Hackett takes it from there in the guitar solo. It's nothing but the same licks repeated over and over again. He did an awesome job of course. Secondly, this one is an AMAZING solo. Daryl is the man. Much better than playing the same old melody after all these years. Things need to be renewed from time to time.
stevedabestperiod 1 month ago
compare this solo to ANY of the ones Hackett is playing even these days.
1:58 to 2:10 is horrible, it just doesn't BELONG to this song.
from 2:30 it lacks the drama Hacket invented. it's just the same sequence of notes without passion and drama.
I am sorry but this solo ruined this performance.
spassigl 2 months ago
@spassigl - Elitist/purist.
SonOfYoungwood 1 month ago
@spassigl partially agree. it remains a great song even with the daryl solo...
imtavolini 1 month ago
This isn't a bad solo by any means, but it doesn't come close to having the feel that Hackett puts into his. Granted Hackett wrote it, but still.. I won't complain about a nod to the old days though. Glad they're attempting to keep their creative era alive.
TomWhaley621 2 months ago
Genesis after Hackett left was never as creative a band as they were with him. Im not even sure how much Daryl Stuermer contributed in the studio after Hackett left. He was their for their tours and he is a good live player but yes, it was Hackett who was the musical gem of that band! Their songs got simple and more pop orientated and sold more but they were never as great without Steve Hackett!
aweaslerippedmyflesh 2 months ago
YES it does matter who the better guitar player is......Stuermer would NOT be playing it if HACKETT did not write it...........So it makes a huge difference. I am not saying that Stuermer is not a great player which he is. I am saying that it was NOT his talent that created most of the songs that he plays with Genesis, at least the old ones. Steve Hackett is a very under rated guitar player. He came up with a lot of techniques that he never received credit for in the main stream...
fableblue2010 2 months ago
ecellent version of excellent song
meurig100 2 months ago
spettacolare
TheRoxette80 2 months ago
The best version is on Steve Hackett's live album, with John Wetton singing.
roccotool 3 months ago in playlist YouTube Mix for Genesis
OK, but this is the best DRUM version
meurig100 2 months ago
6 people are Justin Bieber fans.
mbatl0907 3 months ago
Grandi Genesis!! Peccato per il casino che ha combinato per un momento Phil! Comunque rimane uno dei piu grandi batteristi e cantanti al mondo!!!
Sergione59 3 months ago
2:46 my favourite part !!!
ThePongacho 3 months ago
pure MusicMagic!
BobKessels 3 months ago
Girl at 3:52 says everything...
Roberto26666 4 months ago 2
Steve Hackett created different ways to coax new sounds out of the electric guitar. Then DS had to remain true to the original while contributing his own skill. FOR 30 YEARS. Give him credit for that, he only wants to play Genesis music, not create it.
bassidol 4 months ago 5
この曲のドラムパートは叩けるのに一緒に演奏できる仲間が日本にはいない。 歌える人もいない。
いいな。 いいな。 白人は。
kamenowo 5 months ago
ať hraje lépe Daryl nebo Steve, Philovo solo na bicí je prostě nepřekonatelné !!!
meurig100 5 months ago
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meurig100 5 months ago
It doesn't really matter who the better guitarist is, Stuermer or Hackett. What's important is that this is a superb guitar solo from an extremely gifted musician.
beinndorainjames 5 months ago 15
@beinndorainjames Totally and fully agree. Have you listened to 'Go' and 'Steppin' Out'?
3daypriest 4 months ago
Respond to this video... The important thing about Genesis? Whether it is the drums, the bass, the lead guitar or even the flute, every single person can make that instrument talk to you. I mean TALK. Maybe Phil's drums are the best example, but everybody else, whether a member of the band or just for tours, does exactly the same thing.
3daypriest 4 months ago 2
my words
meurig100 4 months ago
@beinndorainjames Actually the most important thing for me is the person who wrote the original solo. That is all that matters, anyone can play another man's solo. Writing one of this caliber takes another mind all together.
eleventhsun 1 month ago
no way is daryl better than hackett! what are you on? daryl wanks basic scales, while hackett creates beautiful atmospheres and melodies. not to mention that steve is an amazing classical player. hackett is one of the most influential guitarists of his period, and the second best in prog rock ever.
moandbob 5 months ago
@moandbob
WHY DON'T YOU WIND YOUR NECK IN AND GIVE YOUR HEAD A WOBBLE!!
If Hackett wanted to take the credit he should have bloody well been there, Phil, Mike,
and the rest of the band seem pretty pleased with his abilities to perform and a dammed
good job he does too.....
xxYOURBIJOUxx 5 months ago
Certo che se li ci fosse un certo Steve Hackett, senza nulla togliere a Stuermer che ha interpretato BENISSIMO il pezzo...beh sarebbe un'altra cosa!
MoonlightKnight94 6 months ago
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DARYL IS BETTER THAN CLAPTON!
torquesport 6 months ago
sono aperte le iscrizioni al primo festival di paperino rok per contatti io paperino Rock
VincenzoFerrigno55 6 months ago
DARYL IS BETTER THAN HACKETT
onetomanyish 7 months ago
@onetomanyish Haha good one, but watch out there, will be others that won't get that irony of yours.
Bedulonko 6 months ago
to se nedá říct oba jsou nejlepší a zkrátka tohle solo vymyslel Steve
meurig100 6 months ago 3
@onetomanyish Please....shut up...
MoonlightKnight94 6 months ago
THE BEST MUSIC OF ALL TIME
onetomanyish 7 months ago
Stream,",It.'.Now.".
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illustriousdynaqR 7 months ago
@corum428 This is the Genesis that we like as a majority. Hackett was great for sure, but this is different, and still an as great Genesis sound. And Stuermer is fantastic, he did the same solo in the Old Medley in the Way We Walk concert, and it was even smoother and better, in my opinion, got me more feelings than the Hackett era
patallah 7 months ago
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@patallah Steve Hackett is just in another level, you can't compare him to this guy. His solo in the album version of FoF is a masterpiece, this is just a great solo. Genesis ended when he left, Without Peter Gabriel and without him, they lost complete track of their work. Are you seriously comparing Selling England By The Pound with Invisible Touch?! Daryl Stuermer isn't even a member of Genesis!
Bedulonko 6 months ago
not bad Daryl...not bad at all.....for once he has a great Hackett sound coming through that Fender. Thank god for Italians and their love of Genesis. ....What a crowd and show.
myg0tBUTTPLUG 7 months ago
Genesis ended when Steve Hackett left. I don,t know what this is, but it ain't Genesis.
corum428 8 months ago
No doubt Hackett's feeling is better ... On the other side Stevie had a great part in composing Selling ....
pescato68 8 months ago
I think, this is the best version of this song!
TheLeumaX 9 months ago
@TheLeumaX Try listening to Steve Hackett's "Watcher of The Skies: Genesis Revisited" version ;-)
routerwr254 8 months ago
Does anyone like the studio version intro better? I do! this is genius but i`m hoping that they can play like the studio version in the intro som other time :)
osten324 9 months ago
i prefer the steve hackets solo,tis is notr bad but, it seems that has to do more with speed, the onther one, is the kind of solo that you can almost feel entering in your body,and laying like an insect
lamecasuelas2 9 months ago
This tour is a valuable one ,because Phil has retired ,because of medical peoblems and hearing problems ,he cant play drums anymore so this 2007 reunion will most likely be Genesis,s last appearance on stage together
GrooveDoctor77 9 months ago
watch mi tribute serch on you tube:" Fading lights cover by Pino Lettieri" and follow instruction for watch "Behind the lines" also. Enjoy.
Pino
tributando 1 year ago
The problem with Gabriel and Collins is that it has become all about ego. Conversely Hackett, who I know personally, is understated and an inextricable part of the original band. But that's life. Genesis were greater than the sum of their parts. Hackett on his own is a tad dour, Collins has a good voice and is a good on drums but he's a jerk and Gabriel is a toff with an attitude. The tout ensemble was magnificent however.
mwoxo 1 year ago
could you slow down the solo a little bit pal? lets not miss the point...
runreilly 1 year ago
e mi permetto di aggiungere, andate a vedere nei video correlati Genesis Live Tour Roma 2007 Medley Selling England...in questa versione qui, che è stata prodotta, hanno eliminato tutta la batteria di Collins nel pezzo in 8/4 + 13/8 perché si sente chiaramente che nella presa diretta non azzecca un fill che sia uno!!
Kaiser88Franz 1 year ago
possiamo dire quello che vogliamo, artritici o smaglianti, azzeccati o fuori luogo, prog o non prog (signori treccani, qualcuno ha la definizione di prog che si adatti a tutti i gruppi che ne fanno parte?!?!?) ma loro sono loro, lo potevano fare, l'hanno fatto e a loro il merito. l'unica cosa che sinceramente non mi piace sono i suoni "patacconi" tipo anni '80 che banks ha applicato anche ai vecchi pezzi...
Kaiser88Franz 1 year ago
Appunto! Quoto appieno Sandrino.
Armivideo 1 year ago
Great song, but... i prefer the guitar solo of mr. Hackett, sorry guys :(
sebashine 1 year ago
the drums breaks-fills of Phil was not in rythm so there was problem: the scene was deleted at 0'49"
we don't her cymbals too
phenixreturns 1 year ago
I feel very sad listening to pieces like Firth of Fifth played in this way... this guys (?) should have the good taste to not play old pieces like that, at least in this awful way; Collins is (or was ?) an excellent drummer and he would have had to confine himself to do it and nothing else, even after Peter's resignation too... mayor responsabilities of the Genesis (artistical) fall must be ascribed almost solely if not completely to him... [to be continued]
ontherun8 1 year ago
Very slick performance but pales next to Steve Hackett's performance.
mwoxo 1 year ago
@mwoxo Darrel never learned to " loosen up " on these pieces
frododarg 1 year ago
Very slick performance but pales next to Steve Hackett's performance.
mwoxo 1 year ago
Is it still prog? I'm not sure...
EragonFiresword 1 year ago
The most amazing thing about it for me is the fact that Phil Collins and Chester Thompson are playing EXACTLY the same, that means there is no improvisation on the drum piece, it's all composed.
TedBoyRomarino 1 year ago
mi dispiace molto per Banks che ritengo ancora l'unico onesto (in tutti i sensi) dei 3 rimasti...
in quanto al chitarrista che dovrebbe fare le veci di Steve assomiglia più ad uno di quei electric jazz guitarist tanto in voga nella metà degli anni '80 (tipo quelli dell'etichetta GRP) che ad un musicista di progressive (anzi, direi che qui ci sta come i cavoli a merenda... ma cosa chiedergli quando chi dovrebbe dare l'esempio si comporta invece in tale vergognosa maniera). (follow in English)
ontherun8 1 year ago
@ontherun8 Tale chitarrista suona con i Genesis dal 1978 percui... "vergognosa maniera? Cosa dovevano fare? Saltare sul pubblico?..
MrSandrino70 1 year ago
che pena mi fa sentire pezzi come Firth Of Fifth eseguiti in questa maniera, ma anche tanta tristezza... questi signori dovrebbero avere almeno il buon gusto di non suonare più certi pezzi, almeno in questo modo; Collins è (od era ?) un eccellente batterista e avrebbe dovuto limitarsi a fare quello e basta, anche dopo la dipartita di Peter... le maggiori responsabilità della caduta rovinosa dei Genesis sono da attribuire quasi esclusivamente se non completamente a lui... (segue)
ontherun8 1 year ago
@ontherun8 Ma per favore... Suona te a sessantanni come loro e dopo ne parliamo.
MrSandrino70 1 year ago
@MrSandrino70 GRANDE! Tutti ad attaccarli solo perchè hanno suonato dei vecchi pezzi oppure non sono più in forma come prima... non dimentichiamoci che il signor Collins (cito lui perchè è quello di cui ho più informazioni) ha avuto problemi cardiaci, e già da parecchi anni prima di questa performance gli era stato tassativamente proibito di suonare la batteria! E nonostante tutto lui lo ha fatto, e lo ha fatto alla grande!
MackyTHfan 1 year ago
it,s sound so metalized
apozaicer 1 year ago
SIMPLEMENTE INCREIBLE. no puedo mas que envidiar a todos los que pudieron estar ahí.
2811fer 1 year ago
hmmm i was enjoying that looking forward to the solo then at 1:50 the solo went tits up the guy is a good guitarist for a stand in but who the fuck gave him permission to add-lib through probably the best genesis guitar solo ever the fans wont to hear genesis not you daryl stuermer!!!!!
stonedinsect 1 year ago
Genesis never dies....
RPRobben 1 year ago
The Girl at 3:52 feeeeel the guitar of Daryl Stuermer.... :D
oliver580 1 year ago 10
Daryl Stuermer : Greatest Guitarist. Ever .
sehnheiser 1 year ago
Io c'ero a Roma e posso confermare che Phil Collins si cartò clamorosamente andando fuori tempo e mandando di conseguenza fuori tempo anche il povero Tony Banks. Ovviamente nella versione su dvd questo errore è stato sapientemente corretto con la registrazione di un loro concerto dove invece nessuno si era sbagliato. Se guardate bene, non a caso le prime inquadrature sono larghe e lontane, proprio per mantenersi il più possibile sul generico... e certo, xchè non riguardano il concerto di Roma!
AbruzzoBlogTv 1 year ago
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"Darryl is great, but that solo just lacks the emotion that Hackett gives it. Hackett makes those notes sing and sustain so beautifully."
I much prefer Darryl's version of it. Hackett's bores me.
If I want emotion/feel, I'm going to listen to Gilmour, Rothery, Knopfler etc.. not Hackett.
bjoneill74 1 year ago
Darryl is great, but that solo just lacks the emotion that Hackett gives it. Hackett makes those notes sing and sustain so beautifully.
LIVEtoROCK86 1 year ago
MA VOI C'ERAVATE AL CONCERTO ? BEH IO SI' E POTETE CHIEDERE A CHIUNQUE ERA PRESENTE E CAPISCE UN PO' DI MUSICA SE QUELLO CHE DICO NON E' VERO. GUARDATE QUESTO: DIGITATE PHIL COLLINS SCAZZA E SENTITE DA 0:42 A 0:52. 'NCOMPETENTI !!! MA COMUNQUE W I GENESIS (ALMENO FINO AL 1975!).
LUF1966 1 year ago
amazing piece of music
Jimbob312010 1 year ago
Darryl just nails Hacket's guitar riff on this song! I would have loved to catch this concert!
mc3catss 1 year ago
@mc3catss
Yep DS nails it. But he didnt create it. Comparing and excellent performer with a creative one is like saying "this cherry is so much better than that strawberry" they are both wonderfully sweet, but different.
If you go listen to the original studio cut, its superior, not as embellished but it it is the raw creative urge that made this performance possible.
Incudius 7 months ago
1:32 Best part of the video :)
mario94parrain 1 year ago
@mario94parrain :D
MsWindowsExperience 1 year ago
a LUF1966 ma che cazzo dici....??? ma quale fori tempo!!!
fasanetto 1 year ago
Meu Deus, já não se faz música assim... Obrigado por existirem!!! Thank you for your music!
Manotorras 1 year ago
Wish I would have been there.
jm31563 1 year ago
Excellent piece of work! A Masterpiece of Prog Rock!!!
sanguil 1 year ago
I`m proud to say I witnessed Genesis play on this world tour at Old Trafford, England. Had to Pay £130 for my ticket. Would of been a bargain at twice the price.
wuddychunk1 1 year ago
The best of ROME 2007... full of feeling, exellent technique, best performance for daryl in guitar.... and phil collins just laughing and enjoying this AMAZING song... chicken skin at 2:50.... I LOVE GENESIS
marcoferraro90 1 year ago
nooooo ! sul video ufficiale hanno rimontato il pezzo di chissà quale altra registrazione. Io c'ero, e tra 0.40 e 0.58 sono andati completamente fuori tempo, su You Tube ci sono diversi esempi. Certo, questo dimostra che si può sempre sbagliare. Guardate Phil come se la ride (e anche gli altri). Beh, comunque li si può perdonare ? Dispiace però proprio all'ultimo concerto del tour, che pensi ormai suonino a memoria (e forse qui è stato l'errore). W I GENESIS (però cazzo Phil.......)
LUF1966 1 year ago
@LUF1966 te sarai sbajato te
keo774 1 year ago
@LUF1966 phil sta diventando sordo,dicono, e ha anche probl di sensibilità alle mani causata da ernie alla schiena.
SuperAnto1969 1 year ago
amazing solo.
cyberdemon93 1 year ago 3
TWO DAYS AT THE HOLLYWOOD BOWL, THE LAST VISIT, IT RAINED TOWARDS THE END OF THE FIRST SHOW, LUCKY ME, I ENDED UP AT THE SECOND...
ysbnnews 1 year ago
I was there :)
vitoumafioso 1 year ago
One of the best Songs and a great solo.
AsterixtheGallier 1 year ago
thanks for putting the vid up! =] i'm learning the piano parts right now. probably have a vid up sometime soon. LOVE the music!
middlyman 1 year ago
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ysbnnews 1 year ago
Orgasm in music!
MrMarcoroma89 1 year ago
number1songovalllllltyme...
ysbnnews 1 year ago
This is always Darryl's big moment since they don't play the knife or Musical box that much anymore. I do agree he doesn't have the entire feel for the solo. You notice it more watching hearing Hackett play it with his band.
shire2005 1 year ago
KICK DARYL OFF THE STAGE!!! I HATE THAT STUPID FEELINGLESS STUFF HE PLAYS!!!
Koootzer 1 year ago
@Koootzer PLEASEPLEASEIFONLYYOUCOULDHAVEWITNESSED...
ysbnnews 1 year ago
@Koootzer Totally agree with you man! One of the most beautiful and emotional guitar solos ever totally raped,.. that shred was just horrible.
EtYR3Akz 1 year ago
I cringe when I hear Daryl butcher this fine solo.
hoffmanbikes777 1 year ago
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I wouldn't say he butchered it, but those momentary pauses he puts in there beat you over the head if you know how the song was originally played.
rafalweb 1 year ago
I've enjoyed genesis immensly over the years and the original version of the guitar solo on this wonderful peice was sublime and it sort of grew organically out of the keyboard solo. skilled though he may be daryl sturmer wrecks this version. I might like it if i didn't know how good the original was.
strawhouse65 1 year ago
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Mister Steve Hackett simply the best of Genesis member ,and more simply the best of word music
antoniopinamarques 1 year ago
Amazing version - they rarely played Firth Of Fifth live in the old days. Daryl Stuermer at his finest.
poddys 1 year ago
Teh guitar solo mixed with teh drums is so orgasmic!!!
castlekiller157 1 year ago
Phil is just amazing on those drums and Steve, wow what guitar playing, out of this world.
Nickztx100 1 year ago
@Nickztx100 Steve ?? You mean Daryl, I wish Steve was there ...
So many notes and not a single emotion :-(
hammerinthesand 1 year ago
amazing
swg0d0fmusic 1 year ago
In my opinion, Genesis kind of started to sell out around 1980 and after. Can you really compare Seconds Out to Invisible Touch? Sure they gained several million more fans, but they alienated many of those fans who had been with them since From Genesis to Revelation. It makes me sad to see that they only do excerpts of their best songs now, especially Suppers Ready or Cinema Show. And, no offense to Daryl Stuermer or Anthony Phillips, but Steve Hackett was the best guitarist for them.
rozeem6 1 year ago 2
@rozeem6
agreed....i'd even go as far to say that Genesis kinda started to sell out when Gabriel left...but really sold out when Hackett left
deadhardy 1 year ago
@rozeem6 Well, Daryl is better than Phillips. And he is a very good emulator of Hackett, especially in this piece and in Ripples (2007).
BanksTommy 1 year ago
@paralafuck No Phil, Tony, Mike, Steve and Peter is the best ever
ontherush77 1 year ago
Stop fucking shredding you dick you're nothing compared to Steve
ontherush77 1 year ago
Chiedo scusa ai pochi estimatori di Stuermer ma, detto alla romana, nun se pò propio sentì !!
Anarchiste73 1 year ago
I like this song better as an instrumental on guitar
EpsilonX 1 year ago
ooopppss....closely!
johnnythelowery 1 year ago
Why is Tony using the "Jump" patch on his Korg?
ObSunVid 1 year ago
not the best choice of sound, agreed.
cosmicjazzer 1 year ago
I'd like for those critiscists lo show me a new band who can perform half as good as this. Genesis creation can't just be touched and Phil's a living legend, just go critizise Led Zeppelin´s tired old fakes...
alcalaed 2 years ago
@alcalaed: Okay son. Put this in your Youtube search:
Refugee - Grand Canyon Suite: The Rapids
From the 70's.
johnnythelowery 1 year ago
@alcalaed: And from the 80's check out this solo:
It Bites - Screaming On The Beaches (Live) Town & Country Club
What's good about them is they are.....different. Better/worse?..depends what mood i'm in. I think there is some good stuff out there though.
johnnythelowery 1 year ago
@alcalaed: And then lastly: a very interesting keyboard band:
Greenslade - The ass's ears (1975 live)
johnnythelowery 1 year ago
Good to see Phil laughing after the slight cock up. Probably a sigh of relief.
Mubble 2 years ago
I would liked to have seen how Francis Dunnery would have interpreted this with the Bhoys behind him. Oh well. Hackett is brilliant. Daryl just regurds it. But Francis has the 'jen ne se quoi' (sp?) sensibility (not to be confused with ability, as they all have it) to raise the bar on this and many other Genesis tracks. I wish they could have worked it out.
johnnythelowery 2 years ago
@johnnythelowery I thought this guy was pretty amazing and yet not identical. The WORST thing you could do would be to cram a bunch of extra notes in there.
ajdicks 1 year ago
@ajdicks: Dunnery is a unique talent and Daryl....he's good, but, the word Journeyman comes to my mind. Not his fault-he has to play in Hackett's spirit. I believe they looked really closely at Francis. Very closely indeed. Dunnery would have 'replaced' Hackett instead of filling for him.
johnnythelowery 1 year ago
@johnnythelowery THat is.......they looked closed at Francis replacing Phil's shoes
(he was once a drummer).
johnnythelowery 1 year ago
I Hate When People Compare Hackett To Struemer I Mean There Both Really Good!
GenesisAllSidesLive 2 years ago 4
People get wrapped up in what a guitar 'can' do when what really matters is what they choose to do. Technique is secondary to creativity. Hackett's style was essential to Genesis. Just see how they changed when he left. They lost the haunting quality in their songs. You can hear it in Hackett's solo albums. Struemner is great, but in the end he's a studio mercenary. He had nothing to do with the creation and formation of the bands sound and wrote none of these unforgettable passages.
IYAMNI 1 year ago
i was here....
st3fano71 2 years ago
Meraviglioso...semplicemente meraviglioso....grazie...
Vitto803 2 years ago
FANTASTICO!!! Grazie per averlo pubblicato.
laurapo1 2 years ago
tone and some of the phrasing sounds like gilmore's "on an island"
commentary2 2 years ago
How can anyone critise daryl!? he's one of the best guitarists ever!
chacuuun 2 years ago
one of my fave genesis songs ever! whatever people say, A Trick of the Tail was something of the best they did
remnrone 2 years ago
"Needledick"! Love it. Yeah, Phil can't play as fast as he used to. He still has incredible groove, though. And this is a great performance of the Firth Of Fifth instrumental section.
gideonquinn 2 years ago
wow........
petergabriel99 2 years ago
to me the fact that they still play it is fantastic..
ghlysptwld 2 years ago
Disappointing there was no roll around the toms at .47
semajttam 2 years ago
Yeah, they really ruined the performance because of that...
What a jackass... And also, half the song is missing but I guess your musical wisdom didn't catch that one...
MrGorbokan 2 years ago
Was there any need for that comment? They were hardly going to play the entirety of Firth of Fifth, it was a nod to another medley they did on the '92 tour. I suppose you were expecting them to do the whole of Behind The Lines or do the whole of Cinema Show, needledick? My point was that Phil Collins can't play like that or sing in those keys any more, but I guess your musical wisdom didn't catch that one.......What are all the dots for? Tumbleweed? Prick
semajttam 2 years ago 2
Ah I get it, you're a purile Peter Gabriel era fan. I like that era too, but I went to see the era I grew up listening to, post Duke. So yes, please have your opinion and if you don't like mine then don't read it. Simples Pcccth!
semajttam 2 years ago
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I hate the sound of Tony's keyboard
BaDeeRich 2 years ago
wtf?
Sovietico88 2 years ago
wtf?
Sovietico88 2 years ago
ur an idiot
SRNF 2 years ago
Io c'ero !!!!!!!!!!!!
I was there !!!
certo non è stato come più di 20 anni fa con il grande Peter ma d'altra parte....
okram58 2 years ago
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Triptico2 2 years ago
So cool seeing and hearing Tony play this still
cril1001001 2 years ago 4
Didn't they mess up some of the chords in the beginning though and what you hear on the DVD is dubbed over from another concert.. I guess even they aren't perfect. Manchester was though - so thanks again guys for a fantastic night!
Heathhaze 2 years ago
I was there....amazing show!!!!
yuxuxuxux 2 years ago
Oh, I LOVE when Phil smiles like that! They had such a blast. Wish they'd come closer to me, I'm scared this is the last tour and I've wanted to see them live for 20 plus years.
kamwrites 2 years ago
I miss the old times of good music....
Genesis, Pink Floyd...
Akusguany 2 years ago 31
It's so true
:(
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Triptico2 1 year ago
Incredible, amazing.
Nada puede superar a Genesis en cuanto a performance on stage.
saludos desde Chile ;D
zaferinn 2 years ago
Pink Floyd
Akusguany 2 years ago
they are both prog bands go figure noob
SRNF 2 years ago
also mine too!
OLord2 2 years ago
Firth of Fifth is my favourite song!
lifeseeker82 2 years ago 16
@lifeseeker82 no wonder why
warhols25 1 year ago
@lifeseeker82 It's such and amazing song... every time i hear it i wonder how somebody could imagine something like this... the harmony of the keyboards... the drums... the guitar solo, and of course, the bass line: basic, but perfect.
This song is JUST PERFECT.
MrMrEFE 1 year ago
Very good, but a bit too shreddy.