It more sounds like a brief story or fiction than history in itself. The story of Majapahit migration to the Visayan islands is apparently based on the Maragtas epic written by Pedro Alcantara in mixed Hiligaynon and Kinaray-a in 1907 and it is in no way history but fiction. There is no close similarity between the Indonesian matial arts of Pentjak Silat from the Kali system. The fighting system is popular in the Visayan islands it is safe to assume that it is indigenous to it than imported.
the barong and the kampilan both along wiith other moro weapons belong to the moro only, no one else, anyone who says that the eskrimador used it, is stupid. also kali didn't come from the south in mindinao. mindinao such as the moros used mindinao silat.
@copypacercopypacer it is acctually Visayan. Mindanao was also inhabited by Visayans, then the moros came and colonized Mindanao. then thats when they became muslim, but not the entire mindanao became muslims though. The King of Butuan was related to the King of Cebu back then.
and watch the video documentary "Gold of Ancestors" here on youtube, these are artifacts that have been found by archeologists and also there are historical documents about this, by historians, that proves that the pre-Spanish people of the Philippines, our ancestors were actually no different with our neighbors in the region.
We also had Datu's, Rajah's, Sultans as our leaders, we share a similar history and culture with our neighbors in the Malay world.
@banyohazard69 yup, thats why I said that FMA are actually in the same family of what i called SEAMMA (south east asia maritime martial arts) along with silat etc.
this is BS. totally unhistorical! if eskrima came from srivijayans and they settled in cebu and the visayas islands, how come there are different styles of eskrima from different provinces? i've been to a number of provinces in the philippines and i noticed there is eskrima in the northernmost provinces like ilocos and pangasinan and the southernmost provinces of mindanao. the moros' style is most interesting. they don't use sticks. only bladed weapons. these cebuanos would not stand a chance!
@pinoyblues69 To tell you the truth... the Visayans and Mindanaoans indeed had connections with neighboring empires/kingdoms like that of Borneo and Brunei and also Sri Visjaya, according to one book... the King of Brunei was Visayan, this is because Visayans settled in Borneo and the people of Borneo settled in Visayas, there was a continues flow of people, so to speak.
There are more evidence about our pre-Spanish history that are being discovered by archeologists for the past years or so.
@pinoyblues69 There is actually a truth to this video, perhaps just a little inaccuracy, but this is true, pre-colonial Filipinos indeed share a history and culture with neighbors, with the rest of the Malay world (Indonesia, Philippines, Borneo, Brunei, Malaysia, Singapura, etc.).
There are recent archeological findings, artifacts that will prove this, also old documentations from historians.
Google: "Golden Tara"
and watch the video documentary "Gold of ancestors" here on youtube.
@pinoyblues69 You sound like a kid, are you a kid? you sound immature and seem to be ignorant about your own peoples pre-colonial history.
The Philippine archipelago was not a united archipelago under one sultan, but it is actually made up of different kingdoms under the reign of Sri Visjaya and later Majapahit empires, Philippine archipelago had no defined borders back then, our people practiced Hindu-Buddhism and Animism as religons before the arrival of Islam and later on Christianity.
@pinoyblues69 siguro alam mo na substitute yung sticks kasi pinagbawal ng mga kastila ang pag practice ng swordplay, para di halata yun ang ginagamit nila...dun sa sinasabi mong bladed weapons ang gamit ng moro, ung stick nila palitan mo ng itak o ano mang matalim na sandata di ganun din yun...
@pinoyblues69 the stick art (read: escrima/arnis) was born through the blade disband rules of spaniard, so they replace the abscence of blades with sticks, in the mindanao we cant find it because the mindanao people are the only people that was failed to conquered by the spaniard and manage to keep their blades, now you know why they are the bravest people in the rep of the philippines.
this is BS. totally unhistorical! if eskrima came from srivijayans and they settled in cebu and the visayas islands, how come there are different styles of eskrima from different provinces? i've been to a number of provinces in the philippines and i noticed there is esckrima in the northernmost provinces like ilocos and pangasinan and the southernmost provinces of mindanao. the moros' style is most interesting. they don't use sticks. only bladed weapons. these cebuanos would not stand a chance!
@pinoyblues69 siguro alam mo na substitute yung sticks kasi pinagbawal ng mga kastila ang pag practice ng swordplay, para di halata yun ang ginagamit nila...dun sa sinasabi mong bladed weapons ang gamit ng moro, ung stick nila palitan mo ng itak o ano mang matalim na sandata di ganun din yun...
The history of this Art is just as fascinating as the Art itself . The " ShrivaJayan " Empire was an ancient Indian / Hindu Culture/ Empire. No wonder one of the names for teacher there is " Guru !" Eventually the ancient Culture was driven out by the Islamic Campaigns , and all that remains of it is a few Hindu Temples , and of course , " Bali !" Thank you for sharing this .
@sjander29 the art it self doesnt came from india, it is come out from animism pre-hinduism reagions that now days known as indonesia (yes, srivijaya located in indonesia). guru (or in another dialects known as `guro`) is hindus word for: religious teacher/ religious leader, but it got `malaynisation` in the advance by loosing its `religious` feature, and simply become `someone who teach you something` or guru/teacher
what is anamist visayan amour made of...besides horn and how much would it cover
copypacercopypacer 2 months ago
It more sounds like a brief story or fiction than history in itself. The story of Majapahit migration to the Visayan islands is apparently based on the Maragtas epic written by Pedro Alcantara in mixed Hiligaynon and Kinaray-a in 1907 and it is in no way history but fiction. There is no close similarity between the Indonesian matial arts of Pentjak Silat from the Kali system. The fighting system is popular in the Visayan islands it is safe to assume that it is indigenous to it than imported.
Aldatsky 2 months ago
@Aldatsky majapahit to mindinao and sir visaya( SORRY I DON'T KNOW HOW THE SPELL THAT) to visayan
copypacercopypacer 2 months ago
The people on the Video are not wearing the proper Visayan attire. they should redo it and get it right.
bisaiia 3 months ago in playlist Visayan Heritage
i am glad that many filipinos are coming together because of this movie.
copypacercopypacer 4 months ago
the barong and the kampilan both along wiith other moro weapons belong to the moro only, no one else, anyone who says that the eskrimador used it, is stupid. also kali didn't come from the south in mindinao. mindinao such as the moros used mindinao silat.
copypacercopypacer 4 months ago
@copypacercopypacer - Kampilan is actually Visayan Origin, there is also Visayan version of Barong but I'm not sure the origin...
plus24seven 4 months ago
@plus24seven send me a pic of visayan kampilan...and the visayan barong came from mindinao and later reached the north of visayan and luzon.
copypacercopypacer 4 months ago
@copypacercopypacer it is acctually Visayan. Mindanao was also inhabited by Visayans, then the moros came and colonized Mindanao. then thats when they became muslim, but not the entire mindanao became muslims though. The King of Butuan was related to the King of Cebu back then.
bisaiia 3 months ago in playlist Visayan Heritage
@plus24seven yeah it is a visayan weapon thats what they use back in the days
bisaiia 3 months ago in playlist Visayan Heritage
This video is awesome!
kalijasin 5 months ago
also I don't think Visayan carry Igorot shield ?? .. VIsayan shield are Round and rectangular shape, just like you found in Mindanao
plus24seven 6 months ago
@plus24seven be open minded will yah?!
JAbARiDiOT 5 months ago
@JAbARiDiOT - yap pretty much!
plus24seven 4 months ago
wow! thanks for this awesome production!
VINTONGFX 7 months ago
Google: "Golden Tara"
and watch the video documentary "Gold of Ancestors" here on youtube, these are artifacts that have been found by archeologists and also there are historical documents about this, by historians, that proves that the pre-Spanish people of the Philippines, our ancestors were actually no different with our neighbors in the region.
We also had Datu's, Rajah's, Sultans as our leaders, we share a similar history and culture with our neighbors in the Malay world.
banyohazard69 8 months ago
@banyohazard69 yup, thats why I said that FMA are actually in the same family of what i called SEAMMA (south east asia maritime martial arts) along with silat etc.
MrSolitude14 4 months ago
Yeah too bad we don't know now what the original name of Eskrima is... I would really like to know...
ThtOnePinoy 8 months ago
@ThtOnePinoy I think The Original name of Eskrima is Kali or arnis Becouse its Obviosly not eskrima since The name eskrima came from the spaniards.
nickdemin 8 months ago
@nickdemin eskrima did not come from the spaniards, get ur facts right.
copypacercopypacer 4 months ago
@copypacercopypacer No it did not came from the spaniards, but the word eskrima came from the spiniards. it came from the spanish word esgrima.
bisaiia 3 months ago in playlist Visayan Heritage
Tsuy kaayo! :).. Padayon eskrimadors.
plus24seven 10 months ago
this is BS. totally unhistorical! if eskrima came from srivijayans and they settled in cebu and the visayas islands, how come there are different styles of eskrima from different provinces? i've been to a number of provinces in the philippines and i noticed there is eskrima in the northernmost provinces like ilocos and pangasinan and the southernmost provinces of mindanao. the moros' style is most interesting. they don't use sticks. only bladed weapons. these cebuanos would not stand a chance!
pinoyblues69 11 months ago
@pinoyblues69 To tell you the truth... the Visayans and Mindanaoans indeed had connections with neighboring empires/kingdoms like that of Borneo and Brunei and also Sri Visjaya, according to one book... the King of Brunei was Visayan, this is because Visayans settled in Borneo and the people of Borneo settled in Visayas, there was a continues flow of people, so to speak.
There are more evidence about our pre-Spanish history that are being discovered by archeologists for the past years or so.
banyohazard69 8 months ago
@pinoyblues69 There is actually a truth to this video, perhaps just a little inaccuracy, but this is true, pre-colonial Filipinos indeed share a history and culture with neighbors, with the rest of the Malay world (Indonesia, Philippines, Borneo, Brunei, Malaysia, Singapura, etc.).
There are recent archeological findings, artifacts that will prove this, also old documentations from historians.
Google: "Golden Tara"
and watch the video documentary "Gold of ancestors" here on youtube.
banyohazard69 8 months ago
@pinoyblues69 You sound like a kid, are you a kid? you sound immature and seem to be ignorant about your own peoples pre-colonial history.
The Philippine archipelago was not a united archipelago under one sultan, but it is actually made up of different kingdoms under the reign of Sri Visjaya and later Majapahit empires, Philippine archipelago had no defined borders back then, our people practiced Hindu-Buddhism and Animism as religons before the arrival of Islam and later on Christianity.
banyohazard69 8 months ago 6
@pinoyblues69 .. have you heard about Jovito Abellena's work . "Aginid, Bayok sa ating Tawarik"
plus24seven 6 months ago
@pinoyblues69 siguro alam mo na substitute yung sticks kasi pinagbawal ng mga kastila ang pag practice ng swordplay, para di halata yun ang ginagamit nila...dun sa sinasabi mong bladed weapons ang gamit ng moro, ung stick nila palitan mo ng itak o ano mang matalim na sandata di ganun din yun...
rickmann83 4 months ago
@pinoyblues69 the stick art (read: escrima/arnis) was born through the blade disband rules of spaniard, so they replace the abscence of blades with sticks, in the mindanao we cant find it because the mindanao people are the only people that was failed to conquered by the spaniard and manage to keep their blades, now you know why they are the bravest people in the rep of the philippines.
MrSolitude14 4 months ago
@MrSolitude14 all Filipino's are brave and gallant people
vhin1977 3 months ago
this is BS. totally unhistorical! if eskrima came from srivijayans and they settled in cebu and the visayas islands, how come there are different styles of eskrima from different provinces? i've been to a number of provinces in the philippines and i noticed there is esckrima in the northernmost provinces like ilocos and pangasinan and the southernmost provinces of mindanao. the moros' style is most interesting. they don't use sticks. only bladed weapons. these cebuanos would not stand a chance!
pinoyblues69 11 months ago
@pinoyblues69 siguro alam mo na substitute yung sticks kasi pinagbawal ng mga kastila ang pag practice ng swordplay, para di halata yun ang ginagamit nila...dun sa sinasabi mong bladed weapons ang gamit ng moro, ung stick nila palitan mo ng itak o ano mang matalim na sandata di ganun din yun...
rickmann83 4 months ago
@pinoyblues69 martial arts are envolved, thats why there are many different styles
MrSolitude14 4 months ago
The history of this Art is just as fascinating as the Art itself . The " ShrivaJayan " Empire was an ancient Indian / Hindu Culture/ Empire. No wonder one of the names for teacher there is " Guru !" Eventually the ancient Culture was driven out by the Islamic Campaigns , and all that remains of it is a few Hindu Temples , and of course , " Bali !" Thank you for sharing this .
sjander29 1 year ago
@sjander29 the art it self doesnt came from india, it is come out from animism pre-hinduism reagions that now days known as indonesia (yes, srivijaya located in indonesia). guru (or in another dialects known as `guro`) is hindus word for: religious teacher/ religious leader, but it got `malaynisation` in the advance by loosing its `religious` feature, and simply become `someone who teach you something` or guru/teacher
MrSolitude14 4 months ago