2011 Proto Reflex Features

[AAVince2513]

what about the 2012 model

[onlygodknows7]

does this have a micro switch trigger?

[HaZeSTONER10z]

im deciding to get a gun in the 500$ price range. what would be my best choice

[famefortune101]

@HaZeSTONER10z i would suggest vanguard creed



[italianbroker1]

how does this gun compare to the etek3 or the dangerous power FX?

[stonedhappykid]

whats the best 500 dollar paintball gun?

[shankyou67]

@stonedhappykid well do you like more kick but doesnt use less air and doesnt eat your orings as fast, could be DP fx or etek 3 where both poppet valve's the proto is a spool valve has less kick uses more air and eats o rings if you dont oil/lube

[ThePaintballKid123]

i got the pm10 and it shoots great!i then shot my friends pm11 and it was incredible!if dye would PLEASE make there guns a little more sophisticated in the pm12 such as no macroline,or a sling trigger i would buy the pm12 in the wink of an eye!

[sisilodobsis]

@ThePaintballKid123 i wish they would make a pm11 and a pm12

[jeannejnet]

so what is exactly the difference between this and the rail? they seem pretty much the same except for price...

[jyro478]

dye needs to make a poppet valve gun

[zmthoma4]

this gun is yummy

[TheNuxi]

etek 3 am or this?

[TheQuesiDILLA]

PM8 still beats it.

[yegge17]

nah I wouldn't want to buy this gun. The reason why is probably because my original PMR marker could perform the same...lol

[area51topAlien]

what about the bolt

[sebastian703]

proto reflex or dangerous power fusion fx?

[SLbushwacker66]

did anyone notice at 1:31 the older proto logo is in the asa?

[SLbushwacker66]

did anyone notice at 1:31 the older Proto logo is on the asa? gun looks promising btw

[killRski27]

okay if you look at the rail 11 video the are basically the same thing.... 1200 shots per 68/4500 fill... four firing modes...this just has a 2 piece cam lock and an on/off

[arturr03]

@killRski27 im agree with u its basically the same.

[TeamDK767]

@arturr03 Its to get the "word" out about the new release.

[SSlider123]

@killRski27 only difference though is this has a 14 inch two piece barrel and pmr 11 has a one piece 12 inch barrel.

[maddnessmakr702]

@SSlider123 the differences are the barrel like you said/on-off asa/ clamping feedneck/ aluminum ul frame with nicer buttons/ different solenoid/ the reg on the reflex has a swivel/ the macroline/ it opperates at a lower opperating pressure/ better milling/ and cool colors. i also heard the reflex's trigger is better but i have not confimed that yet. it also comes with a gun case

[MaxBemisingod]

@killRski27 Yeah they're the exact same gun, Proto just wanted you to think the reflex is better so they could charge 200 more for it.

[pokemon2487]

@killRski27 and has a metal body

[pokemon2487]

@killRski27 and has a metal trigger frame, and at least MACROLINE

[mEShrx]

@killRski27 The Rail 11 lacks a macroline, swivel reg, two piece barrel, lever lock feedneck, and on/off asa. The Rail 11 also has some composite on it (may be wrong on that but I held one and it felt differnt from the Matrix Rail 10). Compared to a PMR 10 the Rail just feels awkward, the trigger is less smooth. With these two guns Dye was trying to say "Ok yea you can get a cheaper gun but here are the advantages of spending a bit more money." (More flexibility if you didn't realize)

[555or55]

@killRski27 Actually the Rail and the Reflex rail have several differences, as other people state in the comments, and as you would know if you wern't a dumbass.

[killRski27]

@555or55 like what.... wow the body.. wow the barrel.... you are the one that isnt looking at the big picture here dumb ass... the both have fuse bolt and the same fucking board.... 1200 shots per 68/4500 fill..... and then you have the reg i know... they are not big fucking differences.... they shoot the same way... shoot the same amount of shots and have the same modes.... why dont you stick that one fuck face

[555or55]

@killRski27 bahaha ... good good I'm glad you noticed the obvoious with the barrel and body. I will cut you some slack cause in the rail video who ever did it screwed up, cause the board in the Rail is only programable up to about 15bps (the reflex is up to 25bps). The Reflex you get an all metal cam lock feedneck, as with the rail you get a plastic outside with an allen screw. With the Reflex you get an on/off ASA, Rail dosnt. The Reflex operates at 140psi as where the Rail operates at 155psi.

[555or55]

@555or55 Also the obvious no swivel on the reg and you get steel braided with the Rail. Some guys like to be able to but the macro fitting in different positions for comfort. The reason they put steel braided on the Rail is because stores and dye alike were sick of dumb ass people bringing thier gun back saying its crap when its a simple leak out of the macro. Also with the Reflex Rail it is a METAL UL frame, as where the Rail is just a polymer composite.

[555or55]

@555or55 Also the swivel reg and macroline on the Reflex is a difference, because some guys like to put there macor fitting on different ways for comfort. The reflex UL frame is ALL METAL, and has a much better feel to the trigger and the frame because on the Rail is a polymer.Also the Rail can run on CO2, as where the Reflex cannot. It is not recomended to run the Rail on CO2 but you can. Internally there are differences they don't talk about in the vid. So yah .. fuck face.

[abenguyen]

@killRski27 and a macroline instead of the shitty steel hose xP

[minihooch99]

@killRski27  dude its way better

[pvandpb]

Give it an LPR and this things a winner

[soccerguy2433]

this an the rail both have the hyper3 reg but they listed different operating pressures.... so different regs?

[coronadopballer]

@soccerguy2433 no, the bolt systems in the gun need the reg to operate at a different pressure. the regs are identical, its just the reflex doesnt need quite as high of a psi. Regs are adjustable from about 0-300 psi

[Talucci34]

still no lpr

[squirlybmx]

@Talucci34 lpr will make it a dm

[sisilodobsis]

@squirlybmx lpr would make it a pm11, dye needs to bring the high end pm line back, not make this crap

[minihooch99]

@sisilodobsis  its not crap you dip shit

[sisilodobsis]

@minihooch99 sorry i didnt mean to hurt your feelings, it isn't a pm11 is basically what im getting at.

[swordandsnipe]

@sisilodobsis i dont know how you can call this crap its a damn good gun

[sisilodobsis]

@swordandsnipe I was mad that dye didn't continue their pm series. I'll admit that its a good gun, but it could have been so much better.

[icemaqe]

pmr look alike?

[MrKawiman94]

anyone know if this is better than the dm7 dm9 or ego8? ive never owned a proto but thinking of getting this instead of a ego11, im kind of on a money budget... or any other gun that is around $500?

[noesomhelst]

@MrKawiman94 if arround 500, i would say an etek 3 or one of the new protos.. but if you can find a dm9 or something like that to a good price (used) i would go for that.

[KirbyxPaintxBallx11]

ya i think ill stick wit getting a fusion fx....

[555or55]

@KirbyxPaintxBallx11 LOL Dangerous Powers is garbage. Nothing but Garbage

[RickyM20102011]

thats like the pm's substitution... 

[Finest1510]

when does it come out and how much?

[iEatRainb0ws]

@Finest1510 500

[iEatRainb0ws]

Respond to this video...  500

[younganglers]

nice how much is one of these

[neilgatpandan]

SWEET!

[Snakeplayer94]

Nice looking gun