KING KONG 1933 - The Lost Spider Pit Scene

[xox102]

It look so fake

[Nefelisdiardi]

Firstly, it's not a Ticeratops but a Styracosaurus abd it was supposed to have been an Arsinoitherium. You can see this animal in some of the movie stills. The spider pit scene was cut because Cooper thought it "stopped the show" after the first prescreening, but there is no evidence that it was too horrific, it simply took the attention away from Kong and the main story. And Obies animation is still MUCH better as are Delgads models, than this valiant modern attempt, true geniuses they were.

[johncstark79]

as incredible as that was, i can totally see why they cut, because i would have definitely had nightmares as a kid after watching that

[shenloken2]

Trust me...falling into a pit and then being eaten by these nasties like this isn't a way you want to go. Not at ALL!

[BadSilence1]

How did the original scene got lost ?

[KriegDerSterne77]

@BadSilence1 Merian C. Cooper cut it out. Destroyed it or the MGM vault- fire destroyed the film can

[typickoopakid]

@BadSilence1 it was too violent of a scene back then, so they decided to cut it out and most of the film was destroyed or lost

[VoteSkipper]

@typickoopakid back then? its still horrific!

[sqccccccccc]

Well this is the "reconstructed" spider pit scene, not all of it was found you see, only certain frames were found and used.

[KriegDerSterne77]

@sqccccccccc frames? nothing was found

[Romeosierra616]

so the triceratops part was in the original though?

[MrBizzarobrian]

One that bugs me about this is the bug with the tentacles.In the documentary Jackson shows the original drawing & says it looks like some sort of octopus creature when it is very clear to me that it`s a man-eating plant.

[JoeyHollywood1]

Freakin Awesome!!!

[EoceneRoxton]

The pig-lizard is based on cynognathus, pretty much the only mammal-like reptile to ever get close to being in a film besides dimetrodon, moschops almost made it into Ray Harryhausen's movies though...

[Areyourealythatdumb]

did that triceratops just eat that guy?

[KriegDerSterne77]

@Areyourealythatdumb no, he killed him. Biting! :)

[HeirofGojira91]

@KriegDerSterne77 Looks more like a Styracosaurus - notice the frill and no 'Tri-horned' face? :) And quite frankly if one looks at herbivores today like Elefants, Hippos, Rhinocerous's - they're herbivores but if you tick them off or just get in thier way... well... they're capable of doing bad stuff as well - in the case of this - looks like they got on the wrong 'frill' of the Styracosaurus! Apparently in some junior novels - the team ran into 3 Triceratops - Kong fights and defeats 2 ...

[442hoeky]

@HeirofGojira91 Yeah, I don't think they knew much about dinosaurs back then. Remember the brontosaurus with the sharp teeth that was eating everyone (tipped over their raft and chased them out of the swamp)? Apparently the concept for that scene came from the fact that there was a brontosaurus skeleton in a museum with an allosaurus skull on it!

[HeirofGojira91]

@442hoeky Alas - this was in the 1930's when dino's of various sorts were being discovered - take Brachiosaurus - the fact that it was 'THE BIGGEST SAUROPOD AND DINO' to have hever lived - well for today we know strictly thats not true - for the matter the Brachiosaurus - the famous Branchai specimen from Africa is not designated Girraffatitan (lot not too obvious) or SPINO in JPIII (though some parts were abit exaggerated) - wow - Apato with an Allo skull? Now that would be a serious BITE DOWN!

[HeirofGojira91]

@442hoeky Speaking of Allosaurus you know it was originally called 'Antrodemus' - Nightmare Reptile - and one of the larger species of Allosaurids - called Epanterias - was mistaken to be a sauropod remain at first! Where was this Apato w' the Allo skull btw - I meant what museum - you any idea? I'm curious hearing this - I've only heard of the famous Camarasaurus head debate but for the matter an Allo skull? Wow - quite abstract if not creative for the time - like uh ... IGUANODON!

[442hoeky]

@HeirofGojira91 My bad. I was going from something I'd heard a long time ago (on T.V. that was explaining why a herbivorous sauropod was acting like a carnivore in the original King Kong movie). I looked it up and found out the skull mistake was a Camarasaurus (like you said). It is still likely the cause of the movie error since this mistake remained on display at Yale's Peabody Museum from 1905 to 1989. I guess the movie makers thought the skull looked carnivorous. Cheers.

[HeirofGojira91]

@442hoeky Alas - its amazing how science then and now changes outcomes and facts of things eh? At the expense of the kids :( (think - imagine those who are still young and probably heven't even watched good ol' Kong before or simply the good ol' days when Rexy and Brachio were the biggest theropod and sauropod - but whilst the record has changed that does not mean they haven't lost the reputation they've retained amongst people through the decades) I mean - watching Creature of the Black Lagoon

[ef3erfrq3rerf]

@HeirofGojira91 i am 11 and i have watched the orgnal kong hell i like it better then the new one

[HeirofGojira91]

@442hoeky I could have laughed when they claimed in that film '150 million years ago was during the Devonian and many giant reptiles and creatures ruled the land - like the Amazonian Giant Rat'. Fact: Devonian was atleast 415 mya approx plus you didn't have giant rats - rather it was the age of the fishes :D But enough of my ranting - wow - the Camarasaurus skull stuck at the museum for 84 years? Thats fairly long...

[442hoeky]

@HeirofGojira91 Yeah, the idea that Kong was a "prehistoric ape" too. They had a very inflated view of mammals during the age of the dinosaurs, didn't they? As for the skull mistake, it's a pretty interesting story. I didn't realize that the brontosaurus had basically been removed from the list of Jurassic sauropods (been a long time since I was in school).

[ramque002]

@Areyourealythatdumb It is a styracosaurus, not a triceratops

[Areyourealythatdumb]

@ramque002 oh yes right you are its two horns short, still.

[hjfgjafk2]

If Merian C. Cooper did not cut the original spider pit scene, King Kong would probably be rated M18 or R21.

[theoryg]

I dont believe I just saw this sensational and thanks because I always wished the 1933 movie had more creatures.

[uhurtmybacon]

Funny, IMDB claims this scene has "never been found." I thought I had seen this scene before, however.

[KriegDerSterne77]

@uhurtmybacon what do you mean?

"I had seen this scene before"

You can't know it.

it's lost since 1933

And if you've seen it, where?

[MrSamster911]

@uhurtmybacon yeah, peter jackson actually just recreated this scene using primitive stop motion fx.

[WalterLiddy]

2:40 best death scream of all times.

[KriegDerSterne77]

@WalterLiddy all screams were done by one man!

[Romeosierra616]

@WalterLiddy eeaaahhh aaaaahhhhh oooohhhh!

[Philosphyfanatic]

Wow! Thanks for uploading this! Was that Styracosaurus in the original because I don't really remember it.

[KriegDerSterne77]

@Philosphyfanatic no, you can see it in SON OF KONG

[ReviewerTeen]

HOLY S**T THIS IS BRUTAL! 

[KriegDerSterne77]

@ReviewerTeen :D

[ranka35]

why did they cut the spider scene! wow! that was something?

[KriegDerSterne77]

@ranka35 because it was way to brutal in 1933.

The people only talked about the creatures and the Director wanted them to speak about KONG. So he cut it out

[KriegDerSterne77]

MUSIC by the GREAT Austrian Man, MAX STEINER

[cervisa3]

Omg, 1:49 the bottom of the pit is just like the 2005 version

[KriegDerSterne77]

@cervisa3 yes, they remade the film in 2005 :D

[cervisa3]

@KriegDerSterne77 haha yes....

[cervisa3]

@KriegDerSterne77 I think this version is funny

[hjfgjafk]

Is that two-legged lizard that attacked Carl Denham supposed to be the one that attacked Jack Driscoll in the original King Kong?

By the way, the animation and the new models of the lizards and spiders really look like models made and animated by Willis O' Brien!

[KriegDerSterne77]

@hjfgjafk in this clip, in the end, Jack Driscoll is the victim of the lizard, but he cuts the rope :)

the lizard attacked Driscoll, never Denham

[kalanrak]

Thanks a lot for posting this video. Willis Obrien and his animators did wonderful stop motion including minor details. Theres also a little Archaeopteryx that they animated for this scene .......u can see it @ 0.29 it glides away from the old tree.

[KriegDerSterne77]

@kalanrak yes, I always thought these are birds, or prehistoric ones :D

thanks for the info!

[KriegDerSterne77]

@dinosaur8000 Many segments are King Kong 1933, Denham and the sailors running (beginning) but when the big Saurus is coming they are new actors .

Also the guys in the pit are new actors, stunt men!

[kalanrak]

I read somewhere that Merian Cooper did film a sequence where a Styracosaurus chases the sailors towards the log where they get trapped between Kong on one end and the Styrachosaurus on the other. If you observe in the original 1933 film when kong shakes the log to drop the sailors into the chasm, its funny as to why the sailors don't run away back.

[KriegDerSterne77]

@kalanrak yes, but they never filmed it.

They only had the model.

The Spider Pit Scene was shot, but not the Dino Scene

[hjfgjafk]

Peter Jackson used the original models right?

Were some of the original models used for The Black Scorpion (1957)?

[KriegDerSterne77]

@hjfgjafk yes, some of the original models were re-skinned for BLACK SCORPION

sadly Jackson had to reconstruct the original puppets because the original ones are nearly destroyed or in a bad condition!

He also X-rayed the original spider so he could remake the skelleton of it

[KriegDerSterne77]

@dinosaur8000 they did not.

Many segments are King Kong 1933, Denham and the sailors running (beginning) but when the big Saurus is coming they are new actors.

Also the guys in the pit are new actors, stunt men!

[matrixfan127]

cool

[KriegDerSterne77]

@dinosaur8000 :) I'm glad you like it!

[KriegDerSterne77]

@dinosaur8000 no, this is not Peter Jacksons 2005 CGI-Animation Remake.

It's the recreation of the lost scene called the SPIDER PIT (of the original Black&White 1933 film KING KONG)

[peeorpooable]

thanks for uploading man.

[KriegDerSterne77]

@peeorpooable no problem!

my favorite scene ever!

METROPOLIS and KING KONG are the best!

[Deathadder90]

thanks for upping

[KriegDerSterne77]

@Deathadder90 no problem

I uploaded it twice before but my channel were deleted :)