Holy Jebus!! o_0*#!!! This is Frackin' insane. Unfortunately still not enough for Ultra HD3D with modern compression code...Maybe in the coming years however. But this is a Giant leap for ManKind for Sure!!! Woot-Woot!!!
If my memory serves me correct I watched a documentary saying that all the recordable media ever created in the world still wouldnt come up to have half a human brain's potential
unfortunately, that technology is already obsolete. I own 300 HD movies,and I don't own a blu Ray player, it's called Torrents and High speed internet. There is no need to store date on disposable discs because the innovations in internet speeds and HDD capacities. Now if that technology will lead to the creation of Holographic HDD then, i will be impressed.
@selftaughtninja 100gb games!? That sounds like a ridiculous business model. Do you realize a game is bought and sold several times, before you buy it? Developer - Distributor- Retailer- Then you. With each step, it gets marked up for profit. With the advancements in Bandwidth and HDD storage, Developers see a future where will only be ONE step, Developer-to you. Meaning you'll be able to download a game for a dramatically reduced price, b/c there will be no middle men. That is the future.
@coliwood Yeah havent you heard that Game devs want to spend longer making games meaning they prolly want come out every year and their will be fewer games. Alot of game devs are excited about these holographic dvds. Yeah I know that sounds like a lot. But we are going into a new decade. Anything is possible.
@selftaughtninja It won't be 100GB worth, and even so, The new Consoles will be out next year. those holographic discs are still in the developmental stage, Super Band width speeds are here NOW. For example I have 300+ High Def movies, but I don't have a BluRay player nor a disc. But, I have a seed box, torrent client, and a netflix account. and I stream content throughout my home. I am a PC gamer, I purchase my games via STEAM. I haven't needed a disc in years.
@coliwood I use STEAM as well. And I have a console but I havent bought a console game in a while. I'm a pirate. The only consoles that are coming out are first wii then maybe PS4 but Xbox isnt coming out with one which means they'll use those new holo dvds. Yes Fo speeds exist now. And so do programs that make a billion lines of code more easily. I have a 100 or so hi def movies downloaded from torrents would have more but I have my businees on my compu too which takes loads of space.
@selftaughtninja Not Likely, MS is not to going to add cutting edge tech, that will make their console too expensive. 100gb games may be coming, but not anytime soon, and if they are, they won't be offered in disc form. Disc are expensive, for the consumer, and the manufacturer. Companies are investing into stream NOT massive disposable storage. 2nd most view movies on HTPCs on HDTVs why you movies on the same PC you do work one, doesn't make sense. But a new PC, and get a couple of 3TB HDD.
@coliwood Half of xbox users dont want it to go digital. I've gotten tons of corrupted files through digital content mainely games. I dont think Microsoft is gonna completely forget about those ppl or it could affect its sales being that 35 million ppl use xbox live compared to PSN s 2 million. I own enterntaiment media e books and money was low but not anymore . I'm just a amatetur entrepreneur on the rise.
@selftaughtninja You pay $60 dollars for a console game, Most of that is markup, By eliminating the middle man (Distribution, Manufacturing, Shipment, and Retail) you'll get you game direct from developers via download or streaming for $10-15. Not only that but you'll have more variety. Many games are benched b/c Distributors, won't fund them. That won't be the case if it is "direct to customer". That is where entertainment is trending. Most Netflix users stream movie INSTEAD of receiving discs
@coliwood I get where your coming from. But not everyone on xbl or psn have 3g. Some ppl are still working with 1.5 mbs p/s or even below that. Hence all the lag. So I'm thinking their prolly gonna give the option for disc to play backwards compatibility and bigger HDD for digital downloads, agree?
@selftaughtninja I agree with most of what you are saying, a lot of people are on 1.5mbps. I am on 1.5, b/c it is free. But that is quickly going away, all of the ISP in my area, offer no less than 20mbps. I also believe the next gen consoles will have drives, but Holographic discs are not cost effective, yet. It will cheaper of MS to sell games on 4 dual layer DVDs that it is to make the switch to holographs. But, we are forgetting SD cards, those are getting cheaper and cheaper everyday.
@coliwood How many gigs does the 4 dual layer dvd's hold? And yes SD cards are getting cheaper and storing more capacity every year. I think I heard of a mini SD like 2 years ago that holds 32 gigs. Now I know that will be a tad expensive but that is mind blowing. I imagine that SD's and flash drives will at least be in the 50 or 80 gig capacity in the next few years if not now and I just don't know about it.
@selftaughtninja I forget the company, but I saw unveiling of a 64gb micro card at CES. But that is another thing to look at. ODD are big, slow, noisy, consume massive amounts of energy, and have a relatively short life span, where as Card readers are fast,small, silent, barely use energy, and are durable. Load times would be a thing of the past, because you aren't waiting for a motor to "rev up" Ergonomically speaking, think of how much smaller you system would be if there were no ODD attached
@coliwood I'll admit ODD are becoming outdated and yes they are very noisy, and sometimes can be the cause of your console dying. I'm for a digital console as long as it has usb and micro sd ports and at a big tb HDD or several HDD's packed into one. Acualling I was just thinking if they leave the ODD out maybe they might have more room for more powerful CPU's , GPU's or maybe even use the new APU's made by Intel .
@selftaughtninja Well then we are in agreement. Advancements in HDD and SD storage as well as, Internet speeds,make ODDs obsolete. Holographic discs, though cool, really have no place. But it is not all bleak, maybe the same technology behind Holographic discs could be utilized to create Super storage HDD. Dare I say Petabyte?
Oh and not to mention the brain in mammal has the best compression system known to our existence. From what I've read, it goes through 100 different stages when it comes to compression. These hardware stores in 2 different stages, either 0 or 1. We have 100!!! Scientist now still trying to understand how our brain works but it is still difficult to compare from hardware to wetware because like I've mentioned before, computers works in binary and brain doesn't.
@tkoizumi Several terabytes of brain storage doesnt sound interesting to me. When were developing xerabytes. I say XERABYTES again. Pretty much enough info to shut the brain down completely and it wont matter how much compression and stages it can go through. Thats what we call : DEATH!!!!!!!!!!
125MB in human brain? Lets do the math... at the moment in appx count in studies, human brain consists of over 100 Billion neurons and 100 trillion synapse connections. Lets assume that we model the connections using 128-bits of data for a single activation. 1 trillion connections @ 128-bits = 1.28e14 bits. In Terabytes (128-bit): 14901 terabytes = (((((1,000,000,000,000 * 128) / 8) / 1024) /1024 / 1024)). So in other words it's 14.55 Pentabytes. That's over 3.2 Million DVDs... NOT 125MB!!!
@waddlerobloxxxx I totally agree.. actually if you think about it, how the fuck do you measure how much a human brain can hold? You cant..there just talking out there asses and I think its much more then 2 Petabytes(thats just a guestimation)
This will rape blu ray unless sony becomes smart and buys hvd and combines it with the quality of blu-ray which would be sweet but ehhh... yup sony's screwed
Mechanical disks is NOT a secure media for data storage, only solid state media is more secure . SSD (Solid State Disk) is the future. The Lifetime of mechanical disks is very very short
if a disk is that big in size, how long would it take a drive to read it? That sucker best be fast, i'm not waiting 2 hours to get to a movie, song, or picture!
What is the need for this? CD's can get scratched, cracked, etc...flash drives cannot. In the future, I'd rather buy 500 GB flash drives (approx. the volume of one of those discs) than a 500GB CD! One advantage I see is the ability to stack these for archives of information.
I think I would buy the disk. The cool part about it is how it is read. Instead of reading everything byte for byte, it reads the whole disk in one pass. This means it data transfer rates will be way beyond.
This means the only limitation when saving your whole HD to the disk is the Hard Drives and motherboards transfer rates.
This disk is not really for movies, it is for data storage much like CD-R's.
from what i hear this technology wont really be in use until 2020, due to the fact that this technology is freakin expensive at the moment. example: the drive itself is estimated at 15,000 USD today.
I dont know why people hold on so dear to old formats...yeah buying new hardware can be expensive, but prices always go down...I say the bigger and better, the bigger and better...I just really hope they are robust and ready for long term archiving 100 plus years....so my grand kids can watch all of grandpas old porn.
Very nice...n people please calm down...our brain cud only store so much info....u cud not possibly tell me wat u did yesterday with EVERY DETAIL....OUR BRAIN DOES PROCESSE MORE THAN WER AWARE AT ANY GIVEN TIME....BUT THERE TALKIN ABOUT STORAGE,NOT PROCESING INFO......I guess the GE statement might b wrong,i think i read somewere our brain can store at least 300 gigs over a lifetime....
@dualOne01 wikipedia says that companys arent even thinking about coming out with technology until 2020 so we got some time before the prices drop. Also i saw an article written in 2005 that said it will be out in 2010.. so you never really know when it truly will come out.
initially they'l roll out the 500gb ones but ive read tech reports that show the technology is capable of upto 6tb per disc once they get to the 2nd/3rd generation. Its a shame "in phase" closed down they were going to release this tech last year. Atm sony are pushing the enhanced blu ray tech first and holding hvd to 2016.
500GB will soon be the minimum amount of disk space required for a minimal installation of a not-so-distant future version of Windows... Better invest in some holographic disc drives soon I guess.
El cerebro humano es un sistema analogico, y en una sola neurona puede almacenar mas de 500gb de información, como prueba de eso están los sueños de cosas que hicimos, quiero ver una pelicula que se vea tan real, El cerebro no solo guarda imágenes (el video = sucesion de imágenes) y sonido, sino olores, sabores y mucho mas, todo analógico, Intenta grabar un segundo de lo que capta un sentido en un disco (no en un punto sino en todo el cuerpo) o todos los mapas y rutas que hay en el cerebro
Where does GE obtain such rubbish on how much the human brain can hold, in fact I think this comment of 4000 time the human brain retains, what rubbish IE ...I can recall hours/days/years of mental video in my head just like most ppl this called your memorie, I am sure this would easily fill a 500GB disc let alone 1/4000th... Come on GE don't make such uneducated comments about the human mind..
so you cant use a regular 4.5 dvd to store this 100 dvds on to Single dvd, this would be a special holographic dvd, this would threaten Hard drive sales, the new holographic storage technology, would make it so I could store other data on the Disc I hope, one of the biggest tec bites out today was the Acer one Laptop 2 half pounds. re eventing so things are smaller. yes I love my acer, I wanna see windows Xp in a hand held device & still be fast & the same. because it a snail today
"4,000 times more information than the human brain"? Yeah, right. Show me a plastic disc that holds up to 30 years of lifetime in video, including all details, then I'll believe it. The measuring is just wrong, but then it would be wrong anyway, 'cause we still don't know EXACTLY how the human brain works. Using our vague comprehension of it to compare it to binary information is just preposterous.
Oh, but that statement is clearly promotional bullshit. 500 GB divided by 4,000=125 Megabytes.....ridiculous....an average human brain probably processes 125 MB during breakfast every morning, at least! And although it's true we don't know exactly how the human brain works, we know that it increases its storage capacity as it stores information during a lifetime. That's the difference between a technological memory support and the brain, at least size-wise: the first one has limited space.
Very accurate, daniluzzu. I would have mentioned if this space allowed. Furthermore, it is simply impossible to break down human brain's capacity into bytes units, unless you try to measure every single parallel process (amongst billions) that the brain executes in tandem. In order to do that, we would need to know each one of these processes, which we don't so far. What annoys me the most is that he simply pops that out with no reference whatsoever.
@SwivelHawk But the human brain doesn't remember 30 years of video in flawless quality with all the details intact; but only the most important things that it has experienced.
@MouthofSaurons I didn't say it remembers, I said it stores. Not recalling information doesn't mean it isn't there. Regression under hypnosis shows that all the information is still there, intact in most cases. Our brain usually prioritizes what it will remember based on what it considers more useful, usually.
@dante12345678 thats bs, you can't measure brain capacity in mb, for example, you have two songs in your pc, one is FLAC, and the other one is mp3 128b, one of them is 2mb and the other one is 15mb, it has the same lyrics and instrument on it, on you're mind, theres no difference, you learn it or you don't
seriously, unless this is DVD-RW, what the heck would be the point? It would be a crappy project if it was DVD-R, which I assume it would be, since you can write and move, but not delete anything once you put it on?
ok but it may be better than a persons brain but someones got learn how to make it and use.its just a disc if no one know how to use it. still cant wait till a 500gb cd or hd.
human brain can hold far more than that, maybe 50 TB, at least. And, really, you can't measure human brain in gigabytes or terrabytes. It's far more superior than any human made storage device
1-Human made storage does NOTHING but hold/store Data
the human brain processes data very well.
2-When your brain can process 32million digits of pi in 2 minutes let me know. then when it can storge that number in a smaller space then remembering your breakfast let me know.
to sum it up your brain is not near as fast as even an average processor, more power efficient, yes. they make 2tb hard drives and you can have an unlimited about of those as long as you have connections.
I'm not saying that human brain is faster. I agree that there are certain things computers do a lot faster. I'm saying that human brain is more complex. Processor can process things that it's been programmed to do. It cannot make complex decisions like humans can. No creature can make something more complex than itself. Human brain is far more flexible and its possibilities are limitless unlike processor's.
Our brain is analogue not digital. All the computers on this planet can only hold 1 analogue number or value of one electron.
Go find me a computer that can render a dream as quickly as a human. What takes computers weeks or months our brain can render video in real time in any resolution. The only thing is we cannot access it.
Analogue is still a computer. And computers dont hold numbers like you think. 0 is off 1 is on. so technically 2 VALUES. The human mind has imagination computers just process orders they cant think for themselves. Rendering is a computer process as well so you cant use that term. and it cant have resolution because that is the amount of pixel density in a computer/tv monitor. so basically a brain CREATES a dream. and what do you think computer games are. someone's dream, they thought up.
Actually "rendering" is very much a human term long before computers rendered artist render complete works of art .. learn you facts before speaking .. Oh and yes I design electronics for a living so do not even try to lecture me on computers ...
yes rendering is an old term but the context in which the asshole i was talking to used it DIDNT MEAN painting. so just because a word exists for 1,000's of years dosnt mean it is in the correct context. you design electronics huh...that makes you qualified to tell someone a word has exsisted for many years? and most pp who work in a field would name it. well i do stuff that makes others stuff do stuff so people can have the thing i made the thing make things. its the internet dumbass.
and yet still you tell me when your brain can process you doing 30-50 separate tasks. try this. go make a sandwhich with a blue tooth head set on 3way phone call while talking to 4 people in the kitchen while your tap dancing making your eyes look two different directions, while reciting a book of Shakespeare and watching t.v. because your brain has creativity and complexity dosnt mean its the most superior thing on earth. computers are only as smart as a program. brains create those.
Exactly - computers are just high-speed tools, period. Like a power drill. It drills holes through steel a lot faster than my finger can, though I wouldn't call it "better" than my finger inherently.
And human beings have solved many problems that have been proven to be unsolvable using deterministic computing.
500gb/ 4,000 = 125mb is apparently as much data our brains store...somehow I find that absolute nonsense considering how much sound and visual memory we contain, even from day to day.
will it be scratch resistant? if it isn't, would we still have access to the rest of the information on the disc? or would the scratch render the disc completely useless?
and again how much would it cost? the disc? the players? the recorders?
how long before we see them in the store?
what's the lifetime of one of those discs stored properly?
would we be able to use those discs as hard drives for our computers?
nickoodles, at 0:26 he says "they've discovered a way to fit 500 gigabytes onto a single dvd-sized disc", meaning they already created, they just have to make it easier to produce.
Maybe they don't have the exact answers to my questions yet, but they should have some kind of estimates of what they would expect to see with this new technology.
The problem with this is, the burning quality for movies is going the be extremely poor. I wont be able to put the maximum amount of movies on a disc like that. DAMN
Jesus... anyone ELSE gonna ask this MORON question for the 725th time?? WHAT DO YOU THINK, EINSTEIN??!! It's fuckin' OPTICAL MEDIA!! Think about what happens when you scratch your CD OR DVD and see if you can actually make the connection!!
The reason i ask is because like the nice man in the movie says, regular DVD's and CD's are only one little layer of data, and a lot of 'empty' space. basically it has a relatively large protective layer. in this media, it uses the ENTIRE disc. so a little scratch (which is why im asking this question) could destroy large amounts of data.
next time please think about your question and be courteous instead of just trolling and calling people names
Oh puh-leeeeeeeeeze... use your friggen brain. It's LIGHT.... light is light is light. Get it? If it is broken by a scratch, then IT CANNOT BE READ. Just like ANY optical media. Hello?
okay, so imagine you have a cd. and it gets a tiny scratch. it still reads, even though there is a tiny scratch. i'm not talking about a giant gouge through the entire cd, i'm talking a normal sized scratch from regular use. now we apply this normal sized scratch to one of these 'holographic' discs. they use the entire disc. so do they have a protective layer (like most cd's/dvds) or do they lose a lot of data?
i don't know if you can grasp at the difference here. its probably too subtle.
people vuying blue ray are idiots...think how much money ur spending on a movie....blueray should be ditched....we moving towards digital movie storage like music is to ipods....go green ...save the planet!!
I would really like to know how someone can determine that a human brain can hold "only X amount of data" if no one knows exactly how it works, and GE, good work :)
well realy if you think about it its true. because all of the stuff we experience and know is just text if u write it down. all of our thoughts can be put into a word document which is i think 9 kilobytes a character.
That brain comment in this video is just ignorant. You have over 100 billion cells in your brain, each of which can connect to 10,000 other cells, as well as independently modulate each of these signal pathways. 500GB isn't even comparable.
Yay, buy all movies over again.
The90slim90 2 months ago
Can I get this on retail?
gfaithw 2 months ago
FUCK YOU GE & FUCK YOU OBAMA.
UCSDEngineerDoctor 6 months ago
HAHA !! WATCHA GONA dooooooooooooo NOW blu-ray! !!
TheXxmad4everxx 7 months ago
Holy Jebus!! o_0*#!!! This is Frackin' insane. Unfortunately still not enough for Ultra HD3D with modern compression code...Maybe in the coming years however. But this is a Giant leap for ManKind for Sure!!! Woot-Woot!!!
kelvingualpa 7 months ago
@kelvingualpa
There's another format called HVD or Holographic Versatile Disc.
This one can hold up to 3.9 TB of space!
brainysnaeha 2 months ago
This is false information for religious people. Fortunately, for normal people, this is a great scientific breakthrough.
cableconnection6 7 months ago
@cableconnection6 I'm religious, and I think it's a scientific breakthrough. I must be some sort of anomaly.
BurritoBazooka 7 months ago
If my memory serves me correct I watched a documentary saying that all the recordable media ever created in the world still wouldnt come up to have half a human brain's potential
RottingYoda 8 months ago
i sure hope that disc is fingerprint resistant..... the laser light would get all refracted and crap.
branmaster7 9 months ago
HAHA my names Brian
SuperSnooki14 9 months ago
thats a LOOOOOTTTT of porn in one disc
DemonXY2J 1 year ago 11
grean- re_d - ray! A holographic format will be the future for pc and gaming.
dvd= 8 - 20gb
Blu-ray= 25 - 50gb
holographic= 200gb - 100tb! maybe more
TheHoby34 1 year ago
unfortunately, that technology is already obsolete. I own 300 HD movies,and I don't own a blu Ray player, it's called Torrents and High speed internet. There is no need to store date on disposable discs because the innovations in internet speeds and HDD capacities. Now if that technology will lead to the creation of Holographic HDD then, i will be impressed.
coliwood 1 year ago
@coliwood It wont be obsolete for games though. When they start making a 100+ gig games unless you magically put that on a 16gig usb or 8.7 gig DVR.
selftaughtninja 1 year ago
@selftaughtninja 100gb games!? That sounds like a ridiculous business model. Do you realize a game is bought and sold several times, before you buy it? Developer - Distributor- Retailer- Then you. With each step, it gets marked up for profit. With the advancements in Bandwidth and HDD storage, Developers see a future where will only be ONE step, Developer-to you. Meaning you'll be able to download a game for a dramatically reduced price, b/c there will be no middle men. That is the future.
coliwood 1 year ago
@coliwood Yeah havent you heard that Game devs want to spend longer making games meaning they prolly want come out every year and their will be fewer games. Alot of game devs are excited about these holographic dvds. Yeah I know that sounds like a lot. But we are going into a new decade. Anything is possible.
selftaughtninja 1 year ago
@selftaughtninja It won't be 100GB worth, and even so, The new Consoles will be out next year. those holographic discs are still in the developmental stage, Super Band width speeds are here NOW. For example I have 300+ High Def movies, but I don't have a BluRay player nor a disc. But, I have a seed box, torrent client, and a netflix account. and I stream content throughout my home. I am a PC gamer, I purchase my games via STEAM. I haven't needed a disc in years.
coliwood 1 year ago
@coliwood I use STEAM as well. And I have a console but I havent bought a console game in a while. I'm a pirate. The only consoles that are coming out are first wii then maybe PS4 but Xbox isnt coming out with one which means they'll use those new holo dvds. Yes Fo speeds exist now. And so do programs that make a billion lines of code more easily. I have a 100 or so hi def movies downloaded from torrents would have more but I have my businees on my compu too which takes loads of space.
selftaughtninja 1 year ago
@selftaughtninja Not Likely, MS is not to going to add cutting edge tech, that will make their console too expensive. 100gb games may be coming, but not anytime soon, and if they are, they won't be offered in disc form. Disc are expensive, for the consumer, and the manufacturer. Companies are investing into stream NOT massive disposable storage. 2nd most view movies on HTPCs on HDTVs why you movies on the same PC you do work one, doesn't make sense. But a new PC, and get a couple of 3TB HDD.
coliwood 1 year ago
@coliwood Half of xbox users dont want it to go digital. I've gotten tons of corrupted files through digital content mainely games. I dont think Microsoft is gonna completely forget about those ppl or it could affect its sales being that 35 million ppl use xbox live compared to PSN s 2 million. I own enterntaiment media e books and money was low but not anymore . I'm just a amatetur entrepreneur on the rise.
selftaughtninja 1 year ago
@selftaughtninja You pay $60 dollars for a console game, Most of that is markup, By eliminating the middle man (Distribution, Manufacturing, Shipment, and Retail) you'll get you game direct from developers via download or streaming for $10-15. Not only that but you'll have more variety. Many games are benched b/c Distributors, won't fund them. That won't be the case if it is "direct to customer". That is where entertainment is trending. Most Netflix users stream movie INSTEAD of receiving discs
coliwood 1 year ago
@coliwood I get where your coming from. But not everyone on xbl or psn have 3g. Some ppl are still working with 1.5 mbs p/s or even below that. Hence all the lag. So I'm thinking their prolly gonna give the option for disc to play backwards compatibility and bigger HDD for digital downloads, agree?
selftaughtninja 1 year ago
@selftaughtninja I agree with most of what you are saying, a lot of people are on 1.5mbps. I am on 1.5, b/c it is free. But that is quickly going away, all of the ISP in my area, offer no less than 20mbps. I also believe the next gen consoles will have drives, but Holographic discs are not cost effective, yet. It will cheaper of MS to sell games on 4 dual layer DVDs that it is to make the switch to holographs. But, we are forgetting SD cards, those are getting cheaper and cheaper everyday.
coliwood 1 year ago
@coliwood How many gigs does the 4 dual layer dvd's hold? And yes SD cards are getting cheaper and storing more capacity every year. I think I heard of a mini SD like 2 years ago that holds 32 gigs. Now I know that will be a tad expensive but that is mind blowing. I imagine that SD's and flash drives will at least be in the 50 or 80 gig capacity in the next few years if not now and I just don't know about it.
selftaughtninja 1 year ago
@selftaughtninja I forget the company, but I saw unveiling of a 64gb micro card at CES. But that is another thing to look at. ODD are big, slow, noisy, consume massive amounts of energy, and have a relatively short life span, where as Card readers are fast,small, silent, barely use energy, and are durable. Load times would be a thing of the past, because you aren't waiting for a motor to "rev up" Ergonomically speaking, think of how much smaller you system would be if there were no ODD attached
coliwood 1 year ago
@coliwood I'll admit ODD are becoming outdated and yes they are very noisy, and sometimes can be the cause of your console dying. I'm for a digital console as long as it has usb and micro sd ports and at a big tb HDD or several HDD's packed into one. Acualling I was just thinking if they leave the ODD out maybe they might have more room for more powerful CPU's , GPU's or maybe even use the new APU's made by Intel .
selftaughtninja 1 year ago
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coliwood 1 year ago
@selftaughtninja Well then we are in agreement. Advancements in HDD and SD storage as well as, Internet speeds,make ODDs obsolete. Holographic discs, though cool, really have no place. But it is not all bleak, maybe the same technology behind Holographic discs could be utilized to create Super storage HDD. Dare I say Petabyte?
coliwood 1 year ago
@coliwood Petabyte maybe a possibility. But the way speeds are increasing with FO tripling every 6 months. Dare I say Xerabyte? LOL.
selftaughtninja 1 year ago
Oh and not to mention the brain in mammal has the best compression system known to our existence. From what I've read, it goes through 100 different stages when it comes to compression. These hardware stores in 2 different stages, either 0 or 1. We have 100!!! Scientist now still trying to understand how our brain works but it is still difficult to compare from hardware to wetware because like I've mentioned before, computers works in binary and brain doesn't.
tkoizumi 1 year ago
@tkoizumi Several terabytes of brain storage doesnt sound interesting to me. When were developing xerabytes. I say XERABYTES again. Pretty much enough info to shut the brain down completely and it wont matter how much compression and stages it can go through. Thats what we call : DEATH!!!!!!!!!!
selftaughtninja 1 year ago
Cont... This means it takes about 30,000 holographic disk to take a snap shot of current human brain's activity. NOT 125MB!!!!!!!!!! gawd!!!!
tkoizumi 1 year ago
125MB in human brain? Lets do the math... at the moment in appx count in studies, human brain consists of over 100 Billion neurons and 100 trillion synapse connections. Lets assume that we model the connections using 128-bits of data for a single activation. 1 trillion connections @ 128-bits = 1.28e14 bits. In Terabytes (128-bit): 14901 terabytes = (((((1,000,000,000,000 * 128) / 8) / 1024) /1024 / 1024)). So in other words it's 14.55 Pentabytes. That's over 3.2 Million DVDs... NOT 125MB!!!
tkoizumi 1 year ago
SCREW SONY!!!!!!
xXLDeusXx 1 year ago
"...in a way that's going to last." That is until someone snaps the disc in half
Epi2Gib 1 year ago
Seriously, when is this coming out? I can't wait to see 1tb defintion!
platinum243125 1 year ago
WTF......Wikipedia says that the human brain holds up to 2 Petabyte...LoL Sony is retarded
waddlerobloxxxx 1 year ago
@waddlerobloxxxx I totally agree.. actually if you think about it, how the fuck do you measure how much a human brain can hold? You cant..there just talking out there asses and I think its much more then 2 Petabytes(thats just a guestimation)
liquidsilencer 1 year ago
dont loose the disc.
3ffy33 1 year ago
This will rape blu ray unless sony becomes smart and buys hvd and combines it with the quality of blu-ray which would be sweet but ehhh... yup sony's screwed
haxor758 1 year ago
When will the disc be released to he public? Is it compatible with windows 7?
platinum243125 1 year ago
this is nothing, look up HVD on wiki, 6TB of Storage!!!
funkymunky65 1 year ago
@funkymunky65 this is hvd
CamiloSanchez1979 1 year ago
big fucking deal. it is too expensive for ordinary people. i rather use DVD or Blu-Ray discs.
KhmerD0g 1 year ago
Mechanical disks is NOT a secure media for data storage, only solid state media is more secure . SSD (Solid State Disk) is the future. The Lifetime of mechanical disks is very very short
mariocbase 1 year ago
IMAGINE IF THEY MAKE AN ULTIMATE GRAND THEFT AUTO GAME ON THT
fightingchampion316 1 year ago
I remember my first computer could store 64k of information. Mine was far superior to the ones that could only hold 16k.
It's a brave new world...
Tigermoon1950 1 year ago
Damn! It's breakthroughs like this that make me dislike capitalism so much. AAAAHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
robert3359 1 year ago
humany nice guys out there who want to chat and talk on the phone
AbbeeNges3 2 years ago
What's the point? Everything is going digital...
pgdevil 2 years ago
if a disk is that big in size, how long would it take a drive to read it? That sucker best be fast, i'm not waiting 2 hours to get to a movie, song, or picture!
hnd4me 2 years ago
What is the need for this? CD's can get scratched, cracked, etc...flash drives cannot. In the future, I'd rather buy 500 GB flash drives (approx. the volume of one of those discs) than a 500GB CD! One advantage I see is the ability to stack these for archives of information.
RedCl0ud22 2 years ago
but flash drives have a limit to how much you can use them before they get unstable. they have a read and write limit like the SSD drives do.
chrisfur2 2 years ago
and i bet it's 6.66 terabytes exactly
shine350 2 years ago
Wtf is wrong with GE? Its too early to make this, all 15,000+ movies on blu ray will have to be re-transferred. technology is advancing WAY too fast.
BoneThugsandAKon 2 years ago
I think I would buy the disk. The cool part about it is how it is read. Instead of reading everything byte for byte, it reads the whole disk in one pass. This means it data transfer rates will be way beyond.
This means the only limitation when saving your whole HD to the disk is the Hard Drives and motherboards transfer rates.
This disk is not really for movies, it is for data storage much like CD-R's.
we never used CD-R's commercially for movies.
With 3D TVs comming out we may need them
mythril4 2 years ago
from what i hear this technology wont really be in use until 2020, due to the fact that this technology is freakin expensive at the moment. example: the drive itself is estimated at 15,000 USD today.
chrisfur2 2 years ago
The disk can actuall stor 6tb
darkr3g1n 2 years ago
I dont know why people hold on so dear to old formats...yeah buying new hardware can be expensive, but prices always go down...I say the bigger and better, the bigger and better...I just really hope they are robust and ready for long term archiving 100 plus years....so my grand kids can watch all of grandpas old porn.
MOSacid 2 years ago
the questions are speed, durability and stability.
635574 2 years ago
When, when, WHEN!!!!! HVD, Is being stalled for purely monopolistic reasons. BL is a joke.
biped19 2 years ago
500gb isn't that much data, however it's great that optical discs can now store that much information.
45009234 2 years ago
In hard drives,there are more than just one disk.combine that with this and HDD's will possibly not dissapear because of SSD's(1 tb sdcard).
xxDungeonzxx 2 years ago
I forgot to tell you that hdd disks are much thicker than dvds. so it will end up being ALOT of storage if GE accomplishes there new goal.
xxDungeonzxx 2 years ago
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xxDungeonzxx 2 years ago
I think holographic discs look pretty cool. I hope they make them in all kinds of cool colors. =D lol
str33twarrior22 2 years ago
Very nice...n people please calm down...our brain cud only store so much info....u cud not possibly tell me wat u did yesterday with EVERY DETAIL....OUR BRAIN DOES PROCESSE MORE THAN WER AWARE AT ANY GIVEN TIME....BUT THERE TALKIN ABOUT STORAGE,NOT PROCESING INFO......I guess the GE statement might b wrong,i think i read somewere our brain can store at least 300 gigs over a lifetime....
GSCIGLIA 2 years ago
NInTEndo Signed a Deal WIth Holographic storage system. ITs gonig to be the first one to come out with it.
peruface 2 years ago
lol damn, Sony is in deep trouble now.
Creator01 2 years ago 14
@Creator01 SONY just crushed them with a terabyte disc
Clay3613 1 year ago
@Creator01 However, holographic drives are projected to initially cost around US$15,000, and a single disc around US$120–180
dualOne01 1 year ago
@dualOne01 wikipedia says that companys arent even thinking about coming out with technology until 2020 so we got some time before the prices drop. Also i saw an article written in 2005 that said it will be out in 2010.. so you never really know when it truly will come out.
liquidsilencer 1 year ago
@Creator01 STUPID SONY IS USING THAT FOR THE PS4
MrGiovanni1234567 1 year ago
@Creator01 STUPID SONY IS USING THAT FOR THE PS4
MrGiovanni1234567 1 year ago
@MrGiovanni1234567 no there using HVD that can hold 1telyebyte or did they change it?
2884nick 1 year ago
@2884nick
initially they'l roll out the 500gb ones but ive read tech reports that show the technology is capable of upto 6tb per disc once they get to the 2nd/3rd generation. Its a shame "in phase" closed down they were going to release this tech last year. Atm sony are pushing the enhanced blu ray tech first and holding hvd to 2016.
prankmypants 1 year ago
@Creator01 Good. Fuck Sony. They are too damn arrogant anyway.
cableconnection6 7 months ago
@Creator01 Good. Fuck Sony. They're products are way too over-rated and way too over-priced anyway. I hope Sony goes out of business.
cableconnection6 7 months ago
This is just so smart. Of course, the Hal-9000 from 2001: A Space Odyssey had holographic memory. So GE, please be careful. ;o)
bobjfs 2 years ago
500GB will soon be the minimum amount of disk space required for a minimal installation of a not-so-distant future version of Windows... Better invest in some holographic disc drives soon I guess.
AgentCROCODILE 2 years ago
El cerebro humano es un sistema analogico, y en una sola neurona puede almacenar mas de 500gb de información, como prueba de eso están los sueños de cosas que hicimos, quiero ver una pelicula que se vea tan real, El cerebro no solo guarda imágenes (el video = sucesion de imágenes) y sonido, sino olores, sabores y mucho mas, todo analógico, Intenta grabar un segundo de lo que capta un sentido en un disco (no en un punto sino en todo el cuerpo) o todos los mapas y rutas que hay en el cerebro
noejesuss 2 years ago
Where does GE obtain such rubbish on how much the human brain can hold, in fact I think this comment of 4000 time the human brain retains, what rubbish IE ...I can recall hours/days/years of mental video in my head just like most ppl this called your memorie, I am sure this would easily fill a 500GB disc let alone 1/4000th... Come on GE don't make such uneducated comments about the human mind..
seveprim 2 years ago 3
I could probably fill 100 terabytes worth of memory. What about the resolution? Thumbs up to your comment mate.
AgentCROCODILE 2 years ago
yeah i'm sure you can remember every single little pixel in a picture and then be able to put it back in order so that you form the picture again
theshakl 2 years ago
what happened to Mempile? the guys supposedly working on terabyte disc? or was is just a scheme to scoop investment money?
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yyf147258 2 years ago
Great video, but...
DEL-YOOJ.
Not DAY-LOOJ.
Digeridude 2 years ago
cool
NintendoFanboy1234 2 years ago
give me 1!!! :D
den0lille0noerd 2 years ago
so you cant use a regular 4.5 dvd to store this 100 dvds on to Single dvd, this would be a special holographic dvd, this would threaten Hard drive sales, the new holographic storage technology, would make it so I could store other data on the Disc I hope, one of the biggest tec bites out today was the Acer one Laptop 2 half pounds. re eventing so things are smaller. yes I love my acer, I wanna see windows Xp in a hand held device & still be fast & the same. because it a snail today
camboy1132 2 years ago
cool video. subscribed.
ndjarnag 2 years ago
"4,000 times more information than the human brain"? Yeah, right. Show me a plastic disc that holds up to 30 years of lifetime in video, including all details, then I'll believe it. The measuring is just wrong, but then it would be wrong anyway, 'cause we still don't know EXACTLY how the human brain works. Using our vague comprehension of it to compare it to binary information is just preposterous.
SwivelHawk 2 years ago 6
I completely agree, that is a ridiculously misled statement.
grmlly 2 years ago
Oh, but that statement is clearly promotional bullshit. 500 GB divided by 4,000=125 Megabytes.....ridiculous....an average human brain probably processes 125 MB during breakfast every morning, at least! And although it's true we don't know exactly how the human brain works, we know that it increases its storage capacity as it stores information during a lifetime. That's the difference between a technological memory support and the brain, at least size-wise: the first one has limited space.
daniluzzu 2 years ago
Very accurate, daniluzzu. I would have mentioned if this space allowed. Furthermore, it is simply impossible to break down human brain's capacity into bytes units, unless you try to measure every single parallel process (amongst billions) that the brain executes in tandem. In order to do that, we would need to know each one of these processes, which we don't so far. What annoys me the most is that he simply pops that out with no reference whatsoever.
SwivelHawk 2 years ago
very true. Its a big brain vs smart brain problem that man has yet to conquer
owensoft 2 years ago
lol without one the others useless :D
singh0116 2 years ago
@SwivelHawk But the human brain doesn't remember 30 years of video in flawless quality with all the details intact; but only the most important things that it has experienced.
MouthofSaurons 11 months ago
@MouthofSaurons I didn't say it remembers, I said it stores. Not recalling information doesn't mean it isn't there. Regression under hypnosis shows that all the information is still there, intact in most cases. Our brain usually prioritizes what it will remember based on what it considers more useful, usually.
SwivelHawk 11 months ago
@SwivelHawk Couldn't agree more! :)
aryesegal1988 10 months ago
cool showing nintendo and other consoles have a bright future
articfreez55 2 years ago
blu-ray is shit now =/
agent012 2 years ago 2
Strange, because InPhase developed this technology couple years ago. What is the purpose in doing it again?
Mzymon 2 years ago
Japanese Pioneer and TDK develop it earlier.
TDK Corporation, 200GB, 9.2006
Pioneer Corporation, 400GB, 8.2008
RISINGSSM 2 years ago
They believe the human brain only holds 125 MB of information? And we wonder why the Japanese tech firms are doing so much better...
dante12345678 2 years ago 19
@dante12345678 actually 128MB, not 125. 1 gig = 1024 mb, so yer. ur a bit of.
SaintsRow2fanatic 1 year ago
@dante12345678 thats bs, you can't measure brain capacity in mb, for example, you have two songs in your pc, one is FLAC, and the other one is mp3 128b, one of them is 2mb and the other one is 15mb, it has the same lyrics and instrument on it, on you're mind, theres no difference, you learn it or you don't
Diegoptur 1 year ago
@Diegoptur i completly agree
KillTheMessenger239 1 year ago
@dante12345678 OMG I CANNOT RUN CRYSIS ON MY BRAIN?
WickedGr 1 year ago
seriously, unless this is DVD-RW, what the heck would be the point? It would be a crappy project if it was DVD-R, which I assume it would be, since you can write and move, but not delete anything once you put it on?
Aniki1111 2 years ago
Didn't Sony already announce a 500gb 10 layer blu ray disc like 4 years ago?
kaioshinex2 2 years ago
I awlays thought my brain was like 10tb or something but ... oh well...
SonicYouthXXX 2 years ago
ok but it may be better than a persons brain but someones got learn how to make it and use.its just a disc if no one know how to use it. still cant wait till a 500gb cd or hd.
computerhotspot 2 years ago
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pozzerbob 2 years ago
human brain can hold far more than that, maybe 50 TB, at least. And, really, you can't measure human brain in gigabytes or terrabytes. It's far more superior than any human made storage device
yamahatyros2 2 years ago
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pozzerbob 2 years ago
not really they say that in 2010 they will have a computer that is much better than the human brain watch the did you know videos
darrenc12pdg123 2 years ago
1-Human made storage does NOTHING but hold/store Data
the human brain processes data very well.
2-When your brain can process 32million digits of pi in 2 minutes let me know. then when it can storge that number in a smaller space then remembering your breakfast let me know.
to sum it up your brain is not near as fast as even an average processor, more power efficient, yes. they make 2tb hard drives and you can have an unlimited about of those as long as you have connections.
BaneOfFreeSpeech 2 years ago
I'm not saying that human brain is faster. I agree that there are certain things computers do a lot faster. I'm saying that human brain is more complex. Processor can process things that it's been programmed to do. It cannot make complex decisions like humans can. No creature can make something more complex than itself. Human brain is far more flexible and its possibilities are limitless unlike processor's.
yamahatyros2 2 years ago
Look up Hierarchical Temporal Memory.
We'll be creating something more complex and intelligent than us very soon.
sexyloser 2 years ago
Our brain is analogue not digital. All the computers on this planet can only hold 1 analogue number or value of one electron.
Go find me a computer that can render a dream as quickly as a human. What takes computers weeks or months our brain can render video in real time in any resolution. The only thing is we cannot access it.
LucifersUncle 2 years ago
Analogue is still a computer. And computers dont hold numbers like you think. 0 is off 1 is on. so technically 2 VALUES. The human mind has imagination computers just process orders they cant think for themselves. Rendering is a computer process as well so you cant use that term. and it cant have resolution because that is the amount of pixel density in a computer/tv monitor. so basically a brain CREATES a dream. and what do you think computer games are. someone's dream, they thought up.
BaneOfFreeSpeech 2 years ago 2
Actually "rendering" is very much a human term long before computers rendered artist render complete works of art .. learn you facts before speaking .. Oh and yes I design electronics for a living so do not even try to lecture me on computers ...
seveprim 2 years ago
yes rendering is an old term but the context in which the asshole i was talking to used it DIDNT MEAN painting. so just because a word exists for 1,000's of years dosnt mean it is in the correct context. you design electronics huh...that makes you qualified to tell someone a word has exsisted for many years? and most pp who work in a field would name it. well i do stuff that makes others stuff do stuff so people can have the thing i made the thing make things. its the internet dumbass.
BaneOfFreeSpeech 2 years ago
and yet still you tell me when your brain can process you doing 30-50 separate tasks. try this. go make a sandwhich with a blue tooth head set on 3way phone call while talking to 4 people in the kitchen while your tap dancing making your eyes look two different directions, while reciting a book of Shakespeare and watching t.v. because your brain has creativity and complexity dosnt mean its the most superior thing on earth. computers are only as smart as a program. brains create those.
BaneOfFreeSpeech 2 years ago
Exactly - computers are just high-speed tools, period. Like a power drill. It drills holes through steel a lot faster than my finger can, though I wouldn't call it "better" than my finger inherently.
And human beings have solved many problems that have been proven to be unsolvable using deterministic computing.
KIFulgore 2 years ago
500gb/ 4,000 = 125mb is apparently as much data our brains store...somehow I find that absolute nonsense considering how much sound and visual memory we contain, even from day to day.
PatrickWard4 2 years ago
Half of a terabyte in a single disc? *faints*
Truthiness231 2 years ago
What a load of absolute rubbish.
"500gb is nearly 4000 times more information than the human brain retains in a lifetime"!
Who writes this speculative nonsense?
Ridiculous propaganda aside, what a waste of time developing optical media.
It is clear that the future of storage is solid state. GE just burning some more money..
furopuff 2 years ago
shouldn't discs be going obsolete by now. i mean, i barely use one unless im installing some kind of software (which i rarely do anymore).
atlien276 2 years ago
do it got emails?
tubester4567 2 years ago
I don't think my brain holds only 500gb of information should be more like peta bytes.
nurbsenvi 2 years ago
this is al good and well but i dont like it a few scratches and you sittin with 500g of nothing. Id rather buy a portable hard drive
bboy310 2 years ago
how much is it going to cost?
will it be scratch resistant? if it isn't, would we still have access to the rest of the information on the disc? or would the scratch render the disc completely useless?
and again how much would it cost? the disc? the players? the recorders?
how long before we see them in the store?
what's the lifetime of one of those discs stored properly?
would we be able to use those discs as hard drives for our computers?
what are the read/write speeds of the disc?
ojmardueno 2 years ago
you can't create a 500gb holographic disc in just a snap you know...
nickoodles 2 years ago
nickoodles, at 0:26 he says "they've discovered a way to fit 500 gigabytes onto a single dvd-sized disc", meaning they already created, they just have to make it easier to produce.
Maybe they don't have the exact answers to my questions yet, but they should have some kind of estimates of what they would expect to see with this new technology.
ojmardueno 2 years ago
Wow... I can see you SO got what the video is about, huh??
Christ... moron.
AndieMoepse 2 years ago
AndieMoepse,
ok, so what is it about?
ojmardueno 2 years ago
The problem with this is, the burning quality for movies is going the be extremely poor. I wont be able to put the maximum amount of movies on a disc like that. DAMN
YepX 2 years ago
my one problem with these is what happens when they get scratched?
ardenthebibliophile 2 years ago 2
"what happens when they get scratched"
Jesus... anyone ELSE gonna ask this MORON question for the 725th time?? WHAT DO YOU THINK, EINSTEIN??!! It's fuckin' OPTICAL MEDIA!! Think about what happens when you scratch your CD OR DVD and see if you can actually make the connection!!
Hmmmm...
AndieMoepse 2 years ago
The reason i ask is because like the nice man in the movie says, regular DVD's and CD's are only one little layer of data, and a lot of 'empty' space. basically it has a relatively large protective layer. in this media, it uses the ENTIRE disc. so a little scratch (which is why im asking this question) could destroy large amounts of data.
next time please think about your question and be courteous instead of just trolling and calling people names
ardenthebibliophile 2 years ago
Oh puh-leeeeeeeeeze... use your friggen brain. It's LIGHT.... light is light is light. Get it? If it is broken by a scratch, then IT CANNOT BE READ. Just like ANY optical media. Hello?
Awfully complicated concept, eh??
AndieMoepse 2 years ago
Oh yeah... and EINSTEIN is SO "name calling", huh?? Rather I called you my bitch?
Grow the fuck up.
AndieMoepse 2 years ago
okay, so imagine you have a cd. and it gets a tiny scratch. it still reads, even though there is a tiny scratch. i'm not talking about a giant gouge through the entire cd, i'm talking a normal sized scratch from regular use. now we apply this normal sized scratch to one of these 'holographic' discs. they use the entire disc. so do they have a protective layer (like most cd's/dvds) or do they lose a lot of data?
i don't know if you can grasp at the difference here. its probably too subtle.
ardenthebibliophile 2 years ago 3
people vuying blue ray are idiots...think how much money ur spending on a movie....blueray should be ditched....we moving towards digital movie storage like music is to ipods....go green ...save the planet!!
DJTEVAdotCOM 2 years ago
fake
Glendale1901 2 years ago
I would really like to know how someone can determine that a human brain can hold "only X amount of data" if no one knows exactly how it works, and GE, good work :)
dmoath 2 years ago 2
Wait...
wtf did that guy say about brains?
I mean... when I watch Kill Bill Volume 1 on Blu-Ray...
that's a 50 GB disc.
So that movie is contains 400 times what I know in a whole lifetime?
... but I know every line in that movie!
watcha talkin bout, GE?
JoeNostalgiaReturns 2 years ago
its not 50 GB its 500 GB!!! thats 4 times more......
Although the statement was false (probably) its still a large amount
quakershockey 2 years ago
50 X 4= 200
500 GB is 10 times more than 50 GB
caisback18 2 years ago
I was talking about Blu-Ray discs, but I think you agree with me that the human brain does not store 125MB!!!!!
JoeNostalgiaReturns 2 years ago
well realy if you think about it its true. because all of the stuff we experience and know is just text if u write it down. all of our thoughts can be put into a word document which is i think 9 kilobytes a character.
oneshotatglory666 2 years ago
That brain comment in this video is just ignorant. You have over 100 billion cells in your brain, each of which can connect to 10,000 other cells, as well as independently modulate each of these signal pathways. 500GB isn't even comparable.
bdusel 2 years ago 6
Oh yeah? So the human brain retains 125 MB of information in a lifetime? That doesn't sound right.
Everflamen 2 years ago 11
blue ray is 50 giga only
memo00212 2 years ago 2
GE is calling my attetion again, not the brand i prefer, but if GE can change my life welcome.
darkalligator 2 years ago
i already bought bluray damn :( .
darkalligator 2 years ago
I don't think Holographic media will be used anytime soon.
They want it to be able to hold a terabyte before they make it ready for the public.
Many films are starting to be shot in HD so they are at their fullest resolution on the BD.
Holograms will probably only start being used once we start filming movies in SUPER-HD which we haven't.
Remember, Blu-Ray was started in 2002, when HD was already available.
This will most likely be used for historic records and scientific research.
JoeNostalgiaReturns 2 years ago
uau
ROGERMAVERICK 2 years ago