Horus was born to the goddess Isis after she retrieved all the dismembered body parts of her murdered husband Osiris, except his penis which was thrown into the Nile and eaten by a catfish, and used her magic powers to resurrect Osiris and fashion a gold phallus to conceive her son. Once Isis knew she was pregnant with Horus, she fled to the Nile Delta marshlands to hide from her brother Set who jealously killed Osiris and who she knew would want t
@Kaptenklok1 Foolish response -- how many people are born with cancer? Is cancer an innate quality of human life? You can't even argue that cancer is a lifestyle choice...
@Kaptenklok1 "How many cases of cancer must G-D create" WOW! actually a clever attempt to escape from 1dimensional thinking.
"How many cases of not-believing babies must he create" (before we accept that he not exists) is my reply. You certainly know that infants ARE not-Believers, and they get their brains infected from ChristO'holicism BUT BUT BUT extrinsdically, by indoctrination. Not by magic or by Divine Instillation.
If you are a Christian you can't really argue that God wants people to be gay. The Old testament says it's an abomination and they should be executed, while the new testament says that they cannot enter heaven.
But it's really sad that we put so much stock in a book 2000+ years old. Liberal Christians need to stop citing God as being on their side, because in the bible he is clearly on the fundamentalist side.
@mrpayne123 Actually that isn't necessarily true, when one reads the original language and in consideration of the cultural and historical background a strong argument is made that the acts prohibited by the Bible are merely acts of domination often practiced in the cultures of those times. Straight men would often rape men as well as women and children in such times as war, in order to incite fear and establish submission. There is nothing in the Bible specifically against consensual gay sex.
@Aleron20x It's quite clear that consensual gay sex is condemned. "If a man lies with a male as he lies with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination. They must be put to death" Levit 20:13.
Here is a book that allows you to sell your daughter as a sex slave into a polygamous marriage (Exodus 21:7). Jesus demands parents execute their children for cursing at them (mark 7:3-8). We must stop pretending we base our morals on this book, bc that allows many to use it to hate.
@mrpayne123 As for the other verses, one has to be careful with interpretation of both the language and the culture. A lot of stuff like this bothered me as well. I can't answer those right now. But I have had good answers to those questions before, from a orthodox Jewish friend of mine. Such commands are not always what they appear.
@mrpayne123 Also there is the case of Jonathan and David, and there are several strong arguments. As a moderate traditionalist Christian who once condemned gay marriage I've changed my mind on this, and in fact the strongest argument I've seen was a theological paper written by a conservative evangelical minister, who happened to be gay, not an argument by a theological liberal.
1, the gcn doesn't hate ANYONE. they are a christian orginization that was put together to help l/g/b/t christians along with they're families understand that you can be l\g\b\t and still BE a CHRISTIAN. 2, l the gcn uses they're video serries "gay christian answers" to answer peoples quetions, so they obveously have to do an extensive amount of research. 3, the video i'm refering to states that scientists injected certain hormomes into pregnant rats and they had gay babies.
Idiot. Pedophilia, rapists, murders, are all psychological disease. No one is born that way. And before you say gay is a psychological illness, know that at one time it was classified as such and has since been proven otherwise. Find a better argument
@Lilboibleu86 Pedophilia rape and murder are all done to nonconsenting people. They are not even remotely comparable to someone who has a spouse of a particular gender. If I Pat marries Bob, is that an awful thing or a beautiful thing depending on Pat's gender?
Its people like Steve who show us the positive side of politics. It isn't a particular party or the government as a whole that is bad, rather it is the lack of upstanding and genuine people willing to take a stand for not what is simply popular, but what is right. It isn't a liberal or conservative view. This is simply the view of kindness, love, and acceptance.
It's interesting. The Soviets tried to do a smear campaign against J. Edgar Hoover in the 60's in which they tried to bring the American public and officials to believe he was homosexual, which would have effectivly ruined his reputation and destroyed his career because he would be fired. I wonder now if the same thing happened, what would come of it. Being homosexual can still get you fired in most state and so forth in the US.
Homosexuals are not gay. They are less than 1 of the population. They want to ignore the way their plumbing works. That is a CHOICE. Sex is NOT a race issue. This idiot thinks God makes gay people. It is OBVIOUS to most people that God creates people, some choose to be gay, sexually deviant, in choosing multiple partners with NO regard to responsible use of their reproductive systems. If being gay is ok, then so is having sex with a dog, horse or tree. Self gratification is their issue.
@liesrbentruth But the point is, even if that is the case (That they choose to be gay - which I do actually agree with you - but their is certainly debate on the issue), they have free will because God gave them free will and they choose to be gay. It is no different from someone choosing not to go to church or choosing to smoke or get drunk. It may be wrong, but in the end they have their own minds and are responcible for their decisions.
@lion575 Let me try and explain - first hand - that the only people debating this point are the haters who want a religious license to torment, bully and even kill gays. Who in the right mind would "choose" a "lifestyle" that results in them being bullied, harassed discriminated against in law? Really? Do you think that you could or would choose it? Do you think you are so superior to us? You REALLY need to speak to a real gay person before making a hate speech like that.
@jjaus "You REALLY need to speak to a real gay person before making a hate speech like that."
Did I say anything hateful? I told the person who made the comment below, if God gave them free will, let them choose (i.e. don't make it your concern).
@lion575 Look, I am probably wasting my time, but I'll try and explain. Saying it is a choice gives people license to discriminate. If it's not a choice then suddenly you are confronted with a person who does not have equal rights. In my case it's not THEM, it's ME. I am gay and I know first hand. You may not think that saying "it's a choice" is a hate speech, but it is.
@jjaus While it may not be a choice for you, I know many guys it is a choice for. I live in Angeles City Philippines (Prostitution Capital of the world) and I know many guys who have slept with hundreds of girls, and have decided they are bored with it and prefer lady boys or male prostitutes (they say its tighter, guys are better in bed because they know what they like, and they are always horny). My saying "its often a choice" is based on personel experience with people I have known for years.
@lion575 You live in a damn peculiar place if that is the norm, but it is an extreme example.I can't speak for Asian cultures, but I can tell you that western straight guys do not choose to sleep with guys. For sex workers most sexual things are no big deal after a while and I respect them for that. For me and millions like me who have regular jobs and lives we do not choose our sexuality, It chooses us. Heterosexuals as well.
@lion575: Whether or not it's a choice for some people is irrelevant, because 1) One's love life is no one else' business, and 2) anti-gay legislation throws a number of "innocents" under a bus either way.
And consider that many of the so-called "Gays by choice" are actually bisexuals or pansexuals, which is not much of a choice either. =)
No you missed the point. I agree that there may be a predisposition but at some point we make the decision to cross that line. All for the sake of pleasure. There is absolutely no way to determine if it is born or learned. I have a gay sister and a gay nephew. I love them both but that doesn't mean I think their choices are the right choices. My sister even dated guys at one point. She ultimately chose to stick with a chick.
I think you may have missed the bit about the fact that being gay isn't a "choice" like smoking and drinking. Both scientists and philosophers have gone some way to prove that being gay is something that is wired into you DNA almost.
How many more drug addicts, alcoholics, and prostitutes does God have to create? How many more criminals, wife beaters, and child monsters does God have to create. How many more murderers, thieves, & dumbass politicians does God have to create?... are you kidding me? Just read the Bible it is spelled out for you. Homosexuality is not what God wants. Temptation is around every corner. It is all about decisions and choice. Make the right decision or make the wrong choice. So make it.
@straighttotheAce What a fucking asswipe you are trying to compare someone being "gay" with being a drug addict, alcoholic, prostitute, murderer or thief... or even a corrupt pollitician. YOU need to get your head out of the fairytales of Christinsanity and get a real education. You literally compared your OWN sister and nephew to a prostitute and a murderer. You should be ashamed.
@straighttotheAce i really hate when people compare gays to that stuff. I'm gay & i am a christian. But i also think being gay is not a sin. But having sex is. It's the same with straight. How many gays must god create before we accept that he want them around?? millions and millions. Till the people of god understand that this is love. LOVE. That's it. Love between to people. living together, having kids together, getting married together, & dieing together. All sounds like a dream come true <3
@straighttotheAce assuming you are a man (and if you are not, swap the appropriate parts here) do you choose for your dick to get hard at the thought of sex with a woman? or does it just... happen? do you think gays became sexually aroused by members of the same sex by choice, or does it just happen? acting on ones sexuality is a choice, but why is it only acceptable for straights to do so? because some imaginary guy in the sky says so? yeah. that doesnt hold up in court, sorry.
If you type into google "horus Egyptian god" and then click on the sub-link to Jesus comparative mythology in the wikipedia entry and scroll down to ancient Egypt, you will learn that your argument was invented by a self styled expert later discredited by the real ones
To all the Jesus loving people here quoting whatevers, answer me this question. Have you ever heard of Horus. Horus was an Egyptian god centuries before J.C. He was born to a virgin mother, his father a god, born in a cave on 21 Dec, with the star Sirius heralding him, witnessed by shepherds. He was baptised at 30, resisted temptation, had 12 decibels, waled on water, healed sick and restored sight to the blind. He died by crucifixion and resurrected after 3 days... theres more, sound familiar?
@aquaMangoLMAO So the moral to my story is.. that JC is a story, one that was a 'modernised' version of Horus. Who was probably the star of a fairy tale. It would be like honouring an Elvis Impersonator and calling him The King. Or living your life according to the rules of Red Riding Hood. I'm not trying to be humorous, just stating facts (which are words stronger than the fiction bible bashers throw with bitter tongue)
@192keen I was baptised a Christian. I don't believe in a God as in the Holy Trinity but I do believe that one only look at the wonders of the Universe to know that there is something out there. Maybe God is the collective experiences of all things across the Universe for all of time. This is what Einstein referred to as the mind of God. So, people who hate gays will share the same head space as gay people. God doesnt give a shit if you're gay or str8. He will care if you hate thy neighbor.
I wasn't trying to be mean or anything... I'm gay myself, yes I'm not afraid to admit it, but I totally agree with what you said except letting the church ruin itself... I mean a little faith isn't that bad... I mean once in awhile it does help... But overdoing it and being crazy about your faith is dangerous... It will make you think you are always right... Not everybody is always right of course...
@912keen no they can`t why because they are here, they have families and friends gay straight or whatsoever. There is no such thing as normality, life is diversity and that is a good thing! We are all humans and the world would be a much better place then we do not make an "other" that can be blamed for anything so we haven't to look after our own failures and mistakes. Be kind and decent to each other that is better than sort out!
How about everybody ignore tha cat named after a automobile because clearly he is ignorant with no references to back up what ever the hell he is saying GOD BLESS the GAYS!
People need to stay out of other people's pants. The Church should also stay of other people's pants. Religion and Sex don't mix well together, they should stay separate from each other.
@Henry200626 The CHurch should talk.. How many priests have been found molesting children? Yet the church does nothing aginst them.
The church needs to stay out of peoples lives.. The gay population does not hurt anyones family values, will not destroy the economey and will not destroy social morals.
Two consenting adults that love each other and have sex is normal. They are not hurting anyone and have not tried to "force" straight people into bed with them. We need to let them be.
All you religious yanks should be shot, your true judgement is so clouded and your are so closed minded, what right do you have to dictate someone's sexuality I mean, If this so called god really didn't want "gays" to be around and be the way they are he wouldn't have "made" them. What use has religion really done for you that's what I wanna know because all its seems to do from my point of view is cause a load of crap, wars, disputes, hatred and prejudice against people that don't deserve it!?
All you gay defending pum pums should let your kids wake the fuck up.
If homosexuality was not wrong then the world would not go round cause boys would be bumming boys and girls doing what ever the fuck they do to get their kicks.
For humans to exist you need to love the opposite sex.
Maybe God gave gays an extra challenge to control their feelings and maybe the reward is worth it.
The biggest test for gays would be to control their desires.
@audi940 Maybe god gave YOU an extra challenge - the challenge of thinking your way is the only way. The challenge of thinking that YOU get a say in someone else's love-life. The challenge of thinking anything you say, or do or think will make a difference. Maybe the challenge is YOUR refusal to understand. God gave you the brains and ability to think...and then you chose not too.
@audi940 LMAO.. BY your argument, you are saying that all boys would go ass fuck other boys..LMAO..And all girls would be doing all girls..LMAO..If all the world were bisexual it would slove so much. God created gays because he likes diversity.
Besidesd.. Jesus wore a dress, hung around with 12 other guys all the time and they drank wine all the time.. Little bit of gay there I'd say.
Gays should hold out on acting immorally and try to forget the desire for men and find peace and comfort in waiting for Gods promise and reward for not acting out on the evil within themselves, you not gonna die if you don't have a lover just like a man will not die if he doesn't get the love of a woman. Its wrong to want to love the same sex in the way you do, un-natural...fight your inner self and avoid sinful acts ( IF YOU BELIEVE IN GOD OF COURSE)
@audi940 So you expect us to live without love, intimacy, affection or companionship and just hope for a reward in heaven, right? I wonder at Christians... do you seriously imagine that the creator of at least one vast universe could give a hoot what anybody does in bed here on our tiny spinning dust mote? What a petty-minded little busy-body such a creator would be. It's blaphemous to postulate such a being.
I never said live without intimacy or love or affection.
Every living thing has a partner to love, if being gay is not immoral then you could argue that pedophiles are not wrong in their sinful acts.
If a pedophile nurtures a kid long enough he can make him believe what he likes and take advantage of him/her sexually, just like gays bringing up children can play with the kids head and make him believe that sucking another mans cock is not wrong when it is.
@audi940 Your ignorance is profound. The vast majority of gays are brought up by ...straight people. The vast majority of pedophiles are brought up by ,,,straight people. The vast majority of pedophiles are ...straight people. So, by your argument, its straight people making folks believe that cock-sucking is a good thing. Thank you straight folks.
@audi940 Pedophile go after children, The "Gay life style" is 2 consenting adults or those of legal age to have sex. Children can't consent to sex with an adult. Again, your argument is invalid and wrong.
Morally wrong that gays should adopt kids (no offence) as they cannot have their own, so without choice are unable to give that child the love and protection he needs and deserves.
Without choice the mum and dad are blessed with a natural and pure love for their offspring which no foster parent can imagine(anyone with kids can vouch for the natural pain you feel when your kid gets hurt or is unhappy)
Gays have a choice, either act upon what they feel and enjoy the pleasures of ass licking.
@audi940 Kids need parents who are talented at nurturing them. Neither hetero nor homosexual orientation automatically confers the talent. Many hetero parents are useless at caring for kids, many gay parents highly talented at it. When will you get the simple fact that sexual orientation is irrelevant in any area outside one's sex life?
I dont deny that gays are good people and friendly, but to bring up a child in that enviroment is wrong because watching your 2 dads kissing and showing affection will screw with the kids head.
bringing up a child is not like a talent show, its about natural feelings and if being gay was part of life then two men would be able to have children, why should 2 people that cannot have kids be allowed to raise children and let the kid believe it is normal, when it is not.
@audi940 A person's sexual orientation does not influence their ability as a parent; according to psychological research a child with gay parents is just as well-adjusted and healthy as one with straight parents. Also, when you say that two people who can't produce children shouldn't be allowed to raise them, does that mean that an infertile woman or one who has had a hysterectomy or an impotent man shouldn't be allowed to raise children either?
@audi940 You are so confused on so many levels there's no point talking to you. Nothing screws with people's minds and moral sense the way religion does.
@audi940 So, by your argument, people that can not have children should not be able to adopt. After all, "why should 2 people that cannot have kids be allowed to raise children..."
There have ALWAYS been gay people around. Just because there are fewer of us than there are of you does not make us 'not normal." Just because YOUR personal hang-ups are a problem, don't try and make our lives difficult. Think about working on yourself, and getting your nose out of our family-life.
There is no doubt that God made gays the way they are/how they fell towards other men was placed inside them. But, there is also no denying that God gave mankind RULES to live by.
I have gay friends and a relative who are gay but CHOOSE not to act on their desire for the same sex.
God clearly warns against homosexuality and to fight the evil within and he shall reward us.
Morally, you know it's wrong to lick the butt hole of someone of the same sex, morally, its wrong for kids to grow up
Dont expect you to understand why licking a place where you shit from is immoral.
Just like walking about half naked is immoral.
If being gay was not shameful or wrong why would gays hide, because they know it is wrong yet they justify it with the fact that they are born that way.
I know a lot of gays that are too afraid of telling anyone cause they know it is a sin.
A bum hole was not made to lick just like it was NOT made to fuck.
@audi940 Straights give rim jobs and Adam and Eve walked around fully naked. IN Canada, women are allowed to walk around topless, just as men are. You have an invalid argument. God created Adam and Eve naked, so by the logic you front, God created the first sin of us walking around naked. Did you not say that was immoral? Gay is no more a sin than is being straight.
When people like you talk about a "gay lifestyle"...what do u assume that entails? There are gays who are intellectuals; some aren't. Some gays don't have sex until their 20s or even later; some are promiscuous. Some gays are firemen, police officers, lawyers, politicians, construction workers, teachers; some are dancers. Some gays like to stay home on weekends; some drink and party hard. There is no "gay lifestyle." They share the same life experiences as str8 people. Your views are very narrow
@tytheeman20 Agree. I am gay and you should see my lifestyle. Ooh boy! We go to bed early (same person, 11 years). Get up, walk our dogs, have breakfast, shower, go to work, come home, have dinner and repeat. We rarely eat out and travel every couple of years. Scary stuff!! Somewhere in the middle of that we are undermining society and destroying heterosexual marriage and corrupting children. We must try and restrict our gay rays going over the fence and achieving that somehow.
@jjaus Exactly. I find it very ignorant when people use generalizations to demonize a whole group of people. It's nothing but fear mongering and it's not right. These people lack the understanding of reality - gay people are just like everyone else. We just want to get married and live like everyone else. There should be concern for ensuring gay people and their families have legal protections equal to others and not be denied due to religious reasoning - separating church and state.
Here is small list of other sexual orientations Bestiality, pedophile, necrophilia., exhibitionism, fetishism, frotteurism, masochism, sadism, transvestitism, voyeurism is that mean we have to accept them all ??? Bull $hit
Oh wait... the logical fallacy... not all heterosexual couples choose NOT to have children, hence the human race continues. Same thing with your logical fallacy... not all folks are gay, hence the human race continues... and you needn't to worry about the demise of the human race due to the gay folks that exist in the world. So please move your hatred on to the next subject.
@UATimka So your claim is that gay marriage will make every heterosexual gay and unwilling to breed if it's legal? Vasectomies are legal...but not every man gets one - that would lead to extinction as well by your logic. Heck, condoms are legal and therefor man+woman+condom = extinction as well...yet we see your logic is totally screwed up.
@JimHinCO this clown in this vid talking about God right! you all like his speech , that means you all belive in God! if you belive in God youll reed his word (bible) and in the bible its says that homosexuality is a sin and no one with sin will enter kingdom of God! 92% of all normal families will have kids! and you can bone one another all thay long youll never have kids form true love!
@UATimka Can you translate that to English please? I've enjoyed many speeches in my time, even from Martin Luther King Jr., but it doesn't make me black. I've heard speeches from kids with gay parents...but my parents weren't gay. I've even heard speeches from Buddhists, etc. yet don't claim any of those as my religion. Where in the Bible are you speaking of? Old or New Testament? Which translation? And you seemed to be quite obsessed with sex rather than marriage. Are you simply not happy?
@UATimka Ah, you made this easy. "Do you not know that the wicked will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: Neither the sexually immoral nor idolaters nor adulterers nor male prostitutes nor homosexual offenders" - homosexual OFFENDER and male prostitute - no the say as a gay man. You seemed to have missed all the heterosexuals in that statement...clearly, sexuality does NOT make one moral or immoral.
@UATimka1:27-32 - you seemed to love to pick and choose scripture. Whom was Paul talking of in 1:1-1:26? Oh, those that prayed to golden statues, idolotry, etc. God gave them over (changed in some interpretations) to homosexuality. It was punishment for idolotry. When you are punished, is the punishment the sin, or the result of the transgression?
I can quote from Hitler's Mein Kempf, it doesn't really mean anything. Stop using an ancient book of laws to defend your actions. There are also laws about how you should kill your children in the Bible.
@UATimka Look, 80% of this country is Christian; your views are shared by many. You can have your beliefs and practice your religion freely without restriction. No one's mind has to change about homosexuality. What do you hope your beliefs will achieve? Do you support harassment of gays? Conversion? Want them to disappear? Gays will continue to be who they are. You're creating an environment where gay kids feel that suicide is preferable to life. Let them love and marry. Love is life.
@tytheeman20 i dont thing anybody should be abused but gay people have more rights than us normal people and they still cry for more rights! Kids suicide everyday for all kinds of reasons ( avatar movie, video games , and girl problems) + gay people have 40% higher suicide rate because of their life style! my former manager was gay, he died from some kind of shit that he would NOT have if he would be normal! back in high school gay kid touched my ass , i barely pushed him and i got suspended ! Y
@UATimka You have very twisted view of reality and it's probably because you're either young or to dense to think. Gay people have more rights than you? Innocent gay people are kicked out of their homes, they can be fired from their job because of who they are, they're discriminated against when applying for housing, insurance, and immigration. They can't get married in most places. Gays commit suicide because they're repressed by their government and family. That's what's not normal.
@UATimka I have more rights? I can't adopt, get married, give blood, and legally I can get kicked out of a public place for being gay in the state of Ohio. There are over 500 different species that have been homosexual. But only one hates them. Humans... Don't you dare tell me I have more rights than you. You are a bigot and a false motivator.
@UATimka None of that is a 'sexual orientation', rather sexual preferences as to what gets your rocks off. All of that can be experienced with male/male, female/male, couples, etc. I will accept anything where both parties are of age, willing and wanting.
As for your ignorant extinction comment. There are 7 billion people on earth - people need to STOP having kids! I believe it's something like 21, 000 kids die a day, almost all preventable. We need to take care of the people already here.
@UATimka Actually, I'm 21 year old female that can't physically have kids, but that doesn't mean I can't adopt and love a child from another just like it were my own. Same goes for LOVING same sex families.
Just imagine,go on,do it,imagine everyone around the wolrd was gay.You knew you should be gay,but something tells you're not.What are you gonna do?! Well THAT'S what we have to put up with every damn day of our lives.People telling us 'You should be str8'.And yet people become angry,upset,confused when we defend ourselves.Just try imagining how it would be for YOU if the tables were turned.Better yet,try some tolerance!
@holyghostboy3 Do you also believe agree that every man is free to sell his daughter into sexual slavery? . If you believe the bible is the word of God you should do, read Exodus 21:7-11.
"Do you believe you should stone your brother, son or daughter to death if they serve other Gods?". If you believe the bible is the word of God you should do (see Deuteronomy 13:6, 8-15).
Do you believe your God is a racist, bigoted, homophobic, cruel, vindictive, genocidal bigot? If you believe the bible
IMO god created gay people to somehow balance the earth out. Imagine how over populated the earth would be if everyone was straight are reproduce. This ties in to natural selection and how nature takes its course.
DID U READ THEY EXCHANGED THE TRUTH ABOUT GOD FOR A LIE THE MEN ALSO ABANDONED (NATURAL!!) RELATIONS WITH WOMEN AND WERE INFLAMED WITH LUST FOR ONE ANOTHER. MEN COMMITTED (SHAMEFUL!!!) ACTS WITH OTHER MEN, AND RECEIVED IN THEMSELVES THE DUE PENALTY FOR THEIR ERROR. IT IS UNNATURAL FOR A MEN TO BE WITH A MAN SAME WAY WITH A WOMAN NO MATTER WHAT ANYONE SAYS IF U DIE GAY/HOMOSEXUAL U WILL GO TO HELL POINT BLANK! U HAVE BEEN WARNED!!!!!!!
25 They exchanged the truth about God for a lie, and worshiped and served created things rather than the Creator—who is forever praised. Amen. 26 Because of this, God gave them over to shameful lusts. Even their women exchanged natural sexual relations for unnatural ones. 27 In the same way the men also abandoned natural relations with women and were inflamed with lust for one another. Men committed shameful acts with other men, and received in themselves the due penalty for their error.
21 For although they knew God, they neither glorified him as God nor gave thanks to him, but their thinking became futile and their foolish hearts were darkened. 22 Although they claimed to be wise, they became fools 23 and exchanged the glory of the immortal God for images made to look like a mortal human being and birds and animals and reptiles. 24 Therefore God gave them over in the sinful desires of their hearts to sexual impurity for the degrading of their bodies with one another.
ok here is what God says Roman 1:18-27 18 The wrath of God is being revealed from heaven against all the godlessness and wickedness of people, who suppress the truth by their wickedness, 19 since what may be known about God is plain to them, because God has made it plain to them. 20 For since the creation of the world God’s invisible qualities—his eternal power and divine nature—have been clearly seen, being understood from what has been made, so that people are without excuse.
@HolyGhostBoy3 Look everyone...we got us a HOLY ROLLER JESUS FREAK! Guess what dumbass....IF you believe EVERY word of the bible, we are ALL fucked...you do know that was supposedly written over 2000 years ago in a totally different time. Grow up and get out of the 1950's. Times have changed....it's NATURAL to be gay. Who in their right mind would CHOOSE a lifestyle to be persecuted, harassed, beat up, or worse KILLED just because they like someone of the own sex?
gay, straight, it's actually no big deal. i like girls and boys. we all do. it's when we choose to make it a big deal that it becomes one. religion has nothing to do with it. if god hated gays, why would he let it happen? i was homophobic when i first learned about gays. but i was just afraid. then i became bisexual. funny how that works.
@tecaltabiano -Hear, you earth: I am bringing disaster on this people, the fruit of their schemes, because they have not listened to my words and have rejected my law. Jeremiah 6:19
-Or do you not know that wrongdoers will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: Neither the sexually immoral nor idolaters nor adulterers nor male prostitutes nor practicing homosexuals I corinthians 6:9
@THEHELENOHENZO On Corinthians...did you read the footnote that your version has on "practicing homosexuals"? If I'm not mistaken on the versions, the footnote should clarify that by "practicing homosexuals", the translators of that version of the Bible specifically meant the clients of those same male prostitutes.
If Paul (who is the original author of this verse and wrote it in Ancient Greek) had meant homosexuals in general, he could have used a common Greek word used at the time: "paiderasste". However, instead of using this common word, Paul instead INVENTED the word "arsenokoitai", which he never defined, so it could mean anything. In fact, at the times of Martin Luther, it was believed "arsenokoitai" meant masturbator.
@THEHELENOHENZO Nothing like an ignorant gentile quoting form a book she or he cannot read or understand in the original language. The terxt you are quoting is from the purity laws and refers to pagan temple prostitution not homosexuality in general.
Now that is one of the reason why people who believe in god have no human rights to believe in.As much as you say that god created everything why does he hate gays.
@zeldapudding NOW YOU GUYS WENT TOO FAR God accept Gays? it is an abomination WE HAVE CHALLENGES IN LIFE bad and good WE SHOULD NEVER ACCEPT BAD ONES we here in this world to be tested PRACTICE BEING GAY IS THIS FIRST CRIME THAT ACTUALLY CAN DESTROY OUR SOCIETY it is one the biggest signs of the times I THINK AS SOON THE REPUBLICANS WIN WHITE HOUSE AND MAJORITY IN CONGRESS, GAY MARRIAGES WILL BANNED
@THEHELENOHENZO Get over yourself...if it wasn't for gays there would be no fashion...no good music (producers) TV/Movies...Newsflash dumbass narrowminded little fuck: Gay people are everywhere! You probably even know some and don't even fucking no it. You don't PRACTICE being gay idiot...you're born that way...Jesus Fucking Christ you religious fucks are what's gonna destroy our society...
@nintendonerd2011 You should look up my other youtube, intothehedges. I started Into the Hedges as a place for lgbtq people to go who have questions about being gay or Christian or a gay Christian. It's just getting started, but it would be cool if you guys would check it out. And don't come in there being hateful - there's too much hate in the world as it is.
@MajorVanceAstro Sorry it took me so long to reply to your reply to me. Yes I have read the Bible. To tell me that I don't know God just because I don't agree with you is insulting. You don't know me - you don't know the things I've been through, so don't judge me. I have been in church since I was born and I have a great relationship with God. He loves me even though I'm gay. What happened to the "Whosoever" in John 3:16?!
You're a fucking dumbass. Being gay is NOT choice. It's biologically proven that a harmone produced by the mother during pregnancy causes a person to be gay. Watch a video called "what makes people gay?" by gaychristiannetwork it says it all in that video. By the way, if anyone has any questions on Christianity and being gay look up gay christian answers on YouTube.
@nintendonerd2011 Care to quote where this research is? Or what your source is? Why would we watch the gaychristiannetwork. They are the LAST fucks to know what makes people Gay. They are just using that platform to brandish their hate. It looks like you bought right into their bullshit...Bravo...
there is no gene linked to sexuality, so it is not something you are born with. It is a choice, not saying that it (gay marriage) should be completely outlawed because many other cultures have accepted it for quite some time.
LOVE
xcupidx1 3 days ago
Please keep applause to yourselves? How do you do that?
whisperingfox 4 days ago
@jjaus You left out the part of your day where you engage in gay anal sex.
mzrealm 5 days ago
Aquamangolmao
My point is study mythology
nintendonerd2011 6 days ago
Aquamangolmao
You are wrong on so many levels
Horus was born to the goddess Isis after she retrieved all the dismembered body parts of her murdered husband Osiris, except his penis which was thrown into the Nile and eaten by a catfish, and used her magic powers to resurrect Osiris and fashion a gold phallus to conceive her son. Once Isis knew she was pregnant with Horus, she fled to the Nile Delta marshlands to hide from her brother Set who jealously killed Osiris and who she knew would want t
nintendonerd2011 6 days ago
Aleron20x
Thank you
Rationaldreaming
Neither is being lgbt
Kleenex3000
I feel sorry for you
nintendonerd2011 6 days ago
...how can you dislike this video?
adri411 1 week ago
"How many more gay people must God create before we ask ourselves; does he even want them around?"
-How many more Atheist does God have to create before we ask ourselves whether or not God wants us to believe he's real?
I mean seriously, if God didn't want them, he would have never bothered creating them!! Stupid ass doesn't even know what he's saying!!
Richellebernadette 1 week ago
How Many Gays Must God Create Before We Accept That He Wants Them Around?
- Stop curing cancer! Just how many cases of cancer must God Create Before We Accept That he Wants some people to die?
Kaptenklok1 1 week ago
@Kaptenklok1 Foolish response -- how many people are born with cancer? Is cancer an innate quality of human life? You can't even argue that cancer is a lifestyle choice...
rationaldreaming 1 week ago 4
@Kaptenklok1 "How many cases of cancer must G-D create" WOW! actually a clever attempt to escape from 1dimensional thinking.
"How many cases of not-believing babies must he create" (before we accept that he not exists) is my reply. You certainly know that infants ARE not-Believers, and they get their brains infected from ChristO'holicism BUT BUT BUT extrinsdically, by indoctrination. Not by magic or by Divine Instillation.
kleenex3000 1 week ago
If you are a Christian you can't really argue that God wants people to be gay. The Old testament says it's an abomination and they should be executed, while the new testament says that they cannot enter heaven.
But it's really sad that we put so much stock in a book 2000+ years old. Liberal Christians need to stop citing God as being on their side, because in the bible he is clearly on the fundamentalist side.
mrpayne123 1 week ago
@mrpayne123 Actually that isn't necessarily true, when one reads the original language and in consideration of the cultural and historical background a strong argument is made that the acts prohibited by the Bible are merely acts of domination often practiced in the cultures of those times. Straight men would often rape men as well as women and children in such times as war, in order to incite fear and establish submission. There is nothing in the Bible specifically against consensual gay sex.
Aleron20x 1 week ago
@Aleron20x It's quite clear that consensual gay sex is condemned. "If a man lies with a male as he lies with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination. They must be put to death" Levit 20:13.
Here is a book that allows you to sell your daughter as a sex slave into a polygamous marriage (Exodus 21:7). Jesus demands parents execute their children for cursing at them (mark 7:3-8). We must stop pretending we base our morals on this book, bc that allows many to use it to hate.
mrpayne123 6 days ago
@mrpayne123 Where is your quote for that command you claim Jesus said? Mark 7: 3-8 is not it. He never said that.
Aleron20x 5 days ago
@mrpayne123 As for the other verses, one has to be careful with interpretation of both the language and the culture. A lot of stuff like this bothered me as well. I can't answer those right now. But I have had good answers to those questions before, from a orthodox Jewish friend of mine. Such commands are not always what they appear.
Aleron20x 5 days ago
@mrpayne123
And why exactly does everyone have to follow that silly book?
MuscleDaddyCMH 5 days ago 2
@mrpayne123 Also there is the case of Jonathan and David, and there are several strong arguments. As a moderate traditionalist Christian who once condemned gay marriage I've changed my mind on this, and in fact the strongest argument I've seen was a theological paper written by a conservative evangelical minister, who happened to be gay, not an argument by a theological liberal.
Aleron20x 1 week ago 2
the earth is getting over populated real fast, we could use some more homos.
theDudeAbides1100 1 week ago 2
hormones sorry
nintendonerd2011 1 week ago
obviously, questions, horemones
nintendonerd2011 2 weeks ago
@starbuckfsd
1, the gcn doesn't hate ANYONE. they are a christian orginization that was put together to help l/g/b/t christians along with they're families understand that you can be l\g\b\t and still BE a CHRISTIAN. 2, l the gcn uses they're video serries "gay christian answers" to answer peoples quetions, so they obveously have to do an extensive amount of research. 3, the video i'm refering to states that scientists injected certain hormomes into pregnant rats and they had gay babies.
nintendonerd2011 2 weeks ago
Idiot. Pedophilia, rapists, murders, are all psychological disease. No one is born that way. And before you say gay is a psychological illness, know that at one time it was classified as such and has since been proven otherwise. Find a better argument
Lilboibleu86 2 weeks ago
@Lilboibleu86 Pedophilia rape and murder are all done to nonconsenting people. They are not even remotely comparable to someone who has a spouse of a particular gender. If I Pat marries Bob, is that an awful thing or a beautiful thing depending on Pat's gender?
sparkplugsf 1 week ago
How many (pedophiles/rapists/murderers etc) must god create before we accept that he wants them around?
amicusnemini 2 weeks ago
God gave life to all his children, and he loves them all eqully.
In 1 Corinthians 13:13, for now there is Faith, Hope, Love. But of these three, the greatest is Love.
So, I say love each other and not hate clearly because it is against God and his ruling in life.
bagatcholon 2 weeks ago
he is 100% right
RandolphAgarn1 2 weeks ago
I typed GAY
KiraDanny 2 weeks ago
I don't agree with homosexuality, but that doesn't give me the right to interfere with other people's choices. ''To you be your way, to me be mine.''
bagh98 2 weeks ago
Its people like Steve who show us the positive side of politics. It isn't a particular party or the government as a whole that is bad, rather it is the lack of upstanding and genuine people willing to take a stand for not what is simply popular, but what is right. It isn't a liberal or conservative view. This is simply the view of kindness, love, and acceptance.
karst045 2 weeks ago
Congress needs to take a page from this mans book, seriously.
thedarkmoonmidnight 2 weeks ago
ur a great man Steve
johndv777 3 weeks ago
It's interesting. The Soviets tried to do a smear campaign against J. Edgar Hoover in the 60's in which they tried to bring the American public and officials to believe he was homosexual, which would have effectivly ruined his reputation and destroyed his career because he would be fired. I wonder now if the same thing happened, what would come of it. Being homosexual can still get you fired in most state and so forth in the US.
capitanzach 3 weeks ago
First, regarding 1:47, how do you keep applause to yourself?
Second, a lot of gay people are religious. Gay churches are very popular. So the "God told me to hate you" thing doesn't work.
Third, if you Republicans are for smaller government, why do you want government to run our private lives?
martinw1200 3 weeks ago
1:47 total asshole!
kiekie0690 3 weeks ago
Like skateboarding or gardening. Haha. Good one.
ChaneyBrinkmanBurlin 3 weeks ago
Homosexuals are not gay. They are less than 1 of the population. They want to ignore the way their plumbing works. That is a CHOICE. Sex is NOT a race issue. This idiot thinks God makes gay people. It is OBVIOUS to most people that God creates people, some choose to be gay, sexually deviant, in choosing multiple partners with NO regard to responsible use of their reproductive systems. If being gay is ok, then so is having sex with a dog, horse or tree. Self gratification is their issue.
liesrbentruth 4 weeks ago
@liesrbentruth How is having sex synonymous with gay sex? How can you even connect the two logically?
simpsonman100 4 weeks ago
@simpsonman100 It simply is. Logic is what it is. or isn't, in the case of equating sex as a discrimination concept.
liesrbentruth 4 weeks ago
@liesrbentruth But the point is, even if that is the case (That they choose to be gay - which I do actually agree with you - but their is certainly debate on the issue), they have free will because God gave them free will and they choose to be gay. It is no different from someone choosing not to go to church or choosing to smoke or get drunk. It may be wrong, but in the end they have their own minds and are responcible for their decisions.
lion575 4 weeks ago
@lion575 Let me try and explain - first hand - that the only people debating this point are the haters who want a religious license to torment, bully and even kill gays. Who in the right mind would "choose" a "lifestyle" that results in them being bullied, harassed discriminated against in law? Really? Do you think that you could or would choose it? Do you think you are so superior to us? You REALLY need to speak to a real gay person before making a hate speech like that.
jjaus 4 weeks ago
@jjaus "You REALLY need to speak to a real gay person before making a hate speech like that."
Did I say anything hateful? I told the person who made the comment below, if God gave them free will, let them choose (i.e. don't make it your concern).
lion575 4 weeks ago
@lion575 Look, I am probably wasting my time, but I'll try and explain. Saying it is a choice gives people license to discriminate. If it's not a choice then suddenly you are confronted with a person who does not have equal rights. In my case it's not THEM, it's ME. I am gay and I know first hand. You may not think that saying "it's a choice" is a hate speech, but it is.
jjaus 3 weeks ago
@jjaus While it may not be a choice for you, I know many guys it is a choice for. I live in Angeles City Philippines (Prostitution Capital of the world) and I know many guys who have slept with hundreds of girls, and have decided they are bored with it and prefer lady boys or male prostitutes (they say its tighter, guys are better in bed because they know what they like, and they are always horny). My saying "its often a choice" is based on personel experience with people I have known for years.
lion575 3 weeks ago
@lion575 You live in a damn peculiar place if that is the norm, but it is an extreme example.I can't speak for Asian cultures, but I can tell you that western straight guys do not choose to sleep with guys. For sex workers most sexual things are no big deal after a while and I respect them for that. For me and millions like me who have regular jobs and lives we do not choose our sexuality, It chooses us. Heterosexuals as well.
jjaus 3 weeks ago
@lion575: Whether or not it's a choice for some people is irrelevant, because 1) One's love life is no one else' business, and 2) anti-gay legislation throws a number of "innocents" under a bus either way.
And consider that many of the so-called "Gays by choice" are actually bisexuals or pansexuals, which is not much of a choice either. =)
Death2Evil 3 weeks ago
No you missed the point. I agree that there may be a predisposition but at some point we make the decision to cross that line. All for the sake of pleasure. There is absolutely no way to determine if it is born or learned. I have a gay sister and a gay nephew. I love them both but that doesn't mean I think their choices are the right choices. My sister even dated guys at one point. She ultimately chose to stick with a chick.
straighttotheAce 1 month ago
@straighttotheAce
I think you may have missed the bit about the fact that being gay isn't a "choice" like smoking and drinking. Both scientists and philosophers have gone some way to prove that being gay is something that is wired into you DNA almost.
adamwisdish95 1 month ago
How many more drug addicts, alcoholics, and prostitutes does God have to create? How many more criminals, wife beaters, and child monsters does God have to create. How many more murderers, thieves, & dumbass politicians does God have to create?... are you kidding me? Just read the Bible it is spelled out for you. Homosexuality is not what God wants. Temptation is around every corner. It is all about decisions and choice. Make the right decision or make the wrong choice. So make it.
straighttotheAce 1 month ago
@straighttotheAce What a fucking asswipe you are trying to compare someone being "gay" with being a drug addict, alcoholic, prostitute, murderer or thief... or even a corrupt pollitician. YOU need to get your head out of the fairytales of Christinsanity and get a real education. You literally compared your OWN sister and nephew to a prostitute and a murderer. You should be ashamed.
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@straighttotheAce i really hate when people compare gays to that stuff. I'm gay & i am a christian. But i also think being gay is not a sin. But having sex is. It's the same with straight. How many gays must god create before we accept that he want them around?? millions and millions. Till the people of god understand that this is love. LOVE. That's it. Love between to people. living together, having kids together, getting married together, & dieing together. All sounds like a dream come true <3
2013andwag 1 month ago 2
@straighttotheAce assuming you are a man (and if you are not, swap the appropriate parts here) do you choose for your dick to get hard at the thought of sex with a woman? or does it just... happen? do you think gays became sexually aroused by members of the same sex by choice, or does it just happen? acting on ones sexuality is a choice, but why is it only acceptable for straights to do so? because some imaginary guy in the sky says so? yeah. that doesnt hold up in court, sorry.
asher2789 3 weeks ago 3
@aquaMangoLMAO
If you type into google "horus Egyptian god" and then click on the sub-link to Jesus comparative mythology in the wikipedia entry and scroll down to ancient Egypt, you will learn that your argument was invented by a self styled expert later discredited by the real ones
adamwisdish95 1 month ago
There's no reasoning with Bible bashers. They have no concept of logic or balanced argument. It's their way or the highway.
DistantCousin 1 month ago
Thank you Steve Simon! Fantastic and intelligent argument that turns religious bigotry on it's head.
DistantCousin 1 month ago
To all the Jesus loving people here quoting whatevers, answer me this question. Have you ever heard of Horus. Horus was an Egyptian god centuries before J.C. He was born to a virgin mother, his father a god, born in a cave on 21 Dec, with the star Sirius heralding him, witnessed by shepherds. He was baptised at 30, resisted temptation, had 12 decibels, waled on water, healed sick and restored sight to the blind. He died by crucifixion and resurrected after 3 days... theres more, sound familiar?
aquaMangoLMAO 1 month ago 2
@aquaMangoLMAO So the moral to my story is.. that JC is a story, one that was a 'modernised' version of Horus. Who was probably the star of a fairy tale. It would be like honouring an Elvis Impersonator and calling him The King. Or living your life according to the rules of Red Riding Hood. I'm not trying to be humorous, just stating facts (which are words stronger than the fiction bible bashers throw with bitter tongue)
aquaMangoLMAO 1 month ago
@192keen I was baptised a Christian. I don't believe in a God as in the Holy Trinity but I do believe that one only look at the wonders of the Universe to know that there is something out there. Maybe God is the collective experiences of all things across the Universe for all of time. This is what Einstein referred to as the mind of God. So, people who hate gays will share the same head space as gay people. God doesnt give a shit if you're gay or str8. He will care if you hate thy neighbor.
s4057052 1 month ago
@andystruth
I wasn't trying to be mean or anything... I'm gay myself, yes I'm not afraid to admit it, but I totally agree with what you said except letting the church ruin itself... I mean a little faith isn't that bad... I mean once in awhile it does help... But overdoing it and being crazy about your faith is dangerous... It will make you think you are always right... Not everybody is always right of course...
Henry200626 1 month ago
For every verse condemning homosexuality, there is another that tells you to be tolerant and not judge others.
KyIeMcCIeIIan 1 month ago
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Can all the gays just go live on there own continent so we straight people can all live normal lives?
912keen 1 month ago
@912keen no they can`t why because they are here, they have families and friends gay straight or whatsoever. There is no such thing as normality, life is diversity and that is a good thing! We are all humans and the world would be a much better place then we do not make an "other" that can be blamed for anything so we haven't to look after our own failures and mistakes. Be kind and decent to each other that is better than sort out!
BMBKA1977 1 month ago 23
@912keen
Black people should go back the fuck to Africa, because their thug ways and soulless feral behavior is ruining the country... Problem?
ArtypNk 1 month ago
fuck god, the most unpleasant character in all fiction
lhrlyc 1 month ago
How about everybody ignore tha cat named after a automobile because clearly he is ignorant with no references to back up what ever the hell he is saying GOD BLESS the GAYS!
ziggymoses1 1 month ago
People need to stay out of other people's pants. The Church should also stay of other people's pants. Religion and Sex don't mix well together, they should stay separate from each other.
Henry200626 1 month ago
@Henry200626 The CHurch should talk.. How many priests have been found molesting children? Yet the church does nothing aginst them.
The church needs to stay out of peoples lives.. The gay population does not hurt anyones family values, will not destroy the economey and will not destroy social morals.
Two consenting adults that love each other and have sex is normal. They are not hurting anyone and have not tried to "force" straight people into bed with them. We need to let them be.
andystruth 1 month ago 2
Well, the simple fact, whether your thought on homosexuality, it's not the government's place to pace laws regulating it.
jesseglaubitz 1 month ago
well said
machngunjoe 1 month ago
well said
machngunjoe 1 month ago
All you religious yanks should be shot, your true judgement is so clouded and your are so closed minded, what right do you have to dictate someone's sexuality I mean, If this so called god really didn't want "gays" to be around and be the way they are he wouldn't have "made" them. What use has religion really done for you that's what I wanna know because all its seems to do from my point of view is cause a load of crap, wars, disputes, hatred and prejudice against people that don't deserve it!?
kenano11 1 month ago
@kenano11
All you gay defending pum pums should let your kids wake the fuck up.
If homosexuality was not wrong then the world would not go round cause boys would be bumming boys and girls doing what ever the fuck they do to get their kicks.
For humans to exist you need to love the opposite sex.
Maybe God gave gays an extra challenge to control their feelings and maybe the reward is worth it.
The biggest test for gays would be to control their desires.
But i don't expect you to understand
audi940 1 month ago
@audi940 Maybe god gave YOU an extra challenge - the challenge of thinking your way is the only way. The challenge of thinking that YOU get a say in someone else's love-life. The challenge of thinking anything you say, or do or think will make a difference. Maybe the challenge is YOUR refusal to understand. God gave you the brains and ability to think...and then you chose not too.
Arcangelo 1 month ago
@audi940 LMAO.. BY your argument, you are saying that all boys would go ass fuck other boys..LMAO..And all girls would be doing all girls..LMAO..If all the world were bisexual it would slove so much. God created gays because he likes diversity.
Besidesd.. Jesus wore a dress, hung around with 12 other guys all the time and they drank wine all the time.. Little bit of gay there I'd say.
andystruth 1 month ago 2
Gays should hold out on acting immorally and try to forget the desire for men and find peace and comfort in waiting for Gods promise and reward for not acting out on the evil within themselves, you not gonna die if you don't have a lover just like a man will not die if he doesn't get the love of a woman. Its wrong to want to love the same sex in the way you do, un-natural...fight your inner self and avoid sinful acts ( IF YOU BELIEVE IN GOD OF COURSE)
Every one for himself on Judgement Day.
audi940 1 month ago
@audi940 So you expect us to live without love, intimacy, affection or companionship and just hope for a reward in heaven, right? I wonder at Christians... do you seriously imagine that the creator of at least one vast universe could give a hoot what anybody does in bed here on our tiny spinning dust mote? What a petty-minded little busy-body such a creator would be. It's blaphemous to postulate such a being.
vilgessuola 1 month ago
@vilgessuola
I never said live without intimacy or love or affection.
Every living thing has a partner to love, if being gay is not immoral then you could argue that pedophiles are not wrong in their sinful acts.
If a pedophile nurtures a kid long enough he can make him believe what he likes and take advantage of him/her sexually, just like gays bringing up children can play with the kids head and make him believe that sucking another mans cock is not wrong when it is.
audi940 1 month ago
@audi940 Your ignorance is profound. The vast majority of gays are brought up by ...straight people. The vast majority of pedophiles are brought up by ,,,straight people. The vast majority of pedophiles are ...straight people. So, by your argument, its straight people making folks believe that cock-sucking is a good thing. Thank you straight folks.
Arcangelo 1 month ago
@audi940 Pedophile go after children, The "Gay life style" is 2 consenting adults or those of legal age to have sex. Children can't consent to sex with an adult. Again, your argument is invalid and wrong.
andystruth 1 month ago
Morally wrong that gays should adopt kids (no offence) as they cannot have their own, so without choice are unable to give that child the love and protection he needs and deserves.
Without choice the mum and dad are blessed with a natural and pure love for their offspring which no foster parent can imagine(anyone with kids can vouch for the natural pain you feel when your kid gets hurt or is unhappy)
Gays have a choice, either act upon what they feel and enjoy the pleasures of ass licking.
audi940 1 month ago
@audi940 Kids need parents who are talented at nurturing them. Neither hetero nor homosexual orientation automatically confers the talent. Many hetero parents are useless at caring for kids, many gay parents highly talented at it. When will you get the simple fact that sexual orientation is irrelevant in any area outside one's sex life?
vilgessuola 1 month ago
@vilgessuola
I dont deny that gays are good people and friendly, but to bring up a child in that enviroment is wrong because watching your 2 dads kissing and showing affection will screw with the kids head.
bringing up a child is not like a talent show, its about natural feelings and if being gay was part of life then two men would be able to have children, why should 2 people that cannot have kids be allowed to raise children and let the kid believe it is normal, when it is not.
audi940 1 month ago
@audi940 A person's sexual orientation does not influence their ability as a parent; according to psychological research a child with gay parents is just as well-adjusted and healthy as one with straight parents. Also, when you say that two people who can't produce children shouldn't be allowed to raise them, does that mean that an infertile woman or one who has had a hysterectomy or an impotent man shouldn't be allowed to raise children either?
VargrSkald 1 month ago
@audi940 You are so confused on so many levels there's no point talking to you. Nothing screws with people's minds and moral sense the way religion does.
vilgessuola 1 month ago
@audi940 So, by your argument, people that can not have children should not be able to adopt. After all, "why should 2 people that cannot have kids be allowed to raise children..."
There have ALWAYS been gay people around. Just because there are fewer of us than there are of you does not make us 'not normal." Just because YOUR personal hang-ups are a problem, don't try and make our lives difficult. Think about working on yourself, and getting your nose out of our family-life.
Arcangelo 1 month ago
There is no doubt that God made gays the way they are/how they fell towards other men was placed inside them. But, there is also no denying that God gave mankind RULES to live by.
I have gay friends and a relative who are gay but CHOOSE not to act on their desire for the same sex.
God clearly warns against homosexuality and to fight the evil within and he shall reward us.
Morally, you know it's wrong to lick the butt hole of someone of the same sex, morally, its wrong for kids to grow up
audi940 1 month ago
@audi940 Why is licking anybody's butt hole immoral, so long as they want it licked?
vilgessuola 1 month ago
@vilgessuola
Dont expect you to understand why licking a place where you shit from is immoral.
Just like walking about half naked is immoral.
If being gay was not shameful or wrong why would gays hide, because they know it is wrong yet they justify it with the fact that they are born that way.
I know a lot of gays that are too afraid of telling anyone cause they know it is a sin.
A bum hole was not made to lick just like it was NOT made to fuck.
It is humans that have justified these sins.
audi940 1 month ago
@audi940 Straights give rim jobs and Adam and Eve walked around fully naked. IN Canada, women are allowed to walk around topless, just as men are. You have an invalid argument. God created Adam and Eve naked, so by the logic you front, God created the first sin of us walking around naked. Did you not say that was immoral? Gay is no more a sin than is being straight.
andystruth 1 month ago
When people like you talk about a "gay lifestyle"...what do u assume that entails? There are gays who are intellectuals; some aren't. Some gays don't have sex until their 20s or even later; some are promiscuous. Some gays are firemen, police officers, lawyers, politicians, construction workers, teachers; some are dancers. Some gays like to stay home on weekends; some drink and party hard. There is no "gay lifestyle." They share the same life experiences as str8 people. Your views are very narrow
tytheeman20 1 month ago 59
@tytheeman20 Agree. I am gay and you should see my lifestyle. Ooh boy! We go to bed early (same person, 11 years). Get up, walk our dogs, have breakfast, shower, go to work, come home, have dinner and repeat. We rarely eat out and travel every couple of years. Scary stuff!! Somewhere in the middle of that we are undermining society and destroying heterosexual marriage and corrupting children. We must try and restrict our gay rays going over the fence and achieving that somehow.
jjaus 1 month ago 21
@jjaus Exactly. I find it very ignorant when people use generalizations to demonize a whole group of people. It's nothing but fear mongering and it's not right. These people lack the understanding of reality - gay people are just like everyone else. We just want to get married and live like everyone else. There should be concern for ensuring gay people and their families have legal protections equal to others and not be denied due to religious reasoning - separating church and state.
PresObama2012 1 month ago
@jjaus Well said.
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Your logic is absolutely correct.
Voltaireooooo 1 month ago
Here is small list of other sexual orientations Bestiality, pedophile, necrophilia., exhibitionism, fetishism, frotteurism, masochism, sadism, transvestitism, voyeurism is that mean we have to accept them all ??? Bull $hit
UATimka 1 month ago
@UATimka You are a fucking moron.
zigertube 1 month ago
@zigertube Oh no i offended sexually ill person !
men + men = extinction
women + women = extinction
homosexuality = extinction
UATimka 1 month ago
@UATimka And by your logic...
men + women = marriage
marriage + no children = extinction
men + women = extinction...?
Oh wait... the logical fallacy... not all heterosexual couples choose NOT to have children, hence the human race continues. Same thing with your logical fallacy... not all folks are gay, hence the human race continues... and you needn't to worry about the demise of the human race due to the gay folks that exist in the world. So please move your hatred on to the next subject.
jwlee21 1 month ago
@jwlee21 i dont hate gays am disgusted by them , but deep inside i feel really bad for you guys!
UATimka 1 month ago
@UATimka
Most rational people don't feel disgust. You should ask yourself why you actually feel that way. Does God feel disgust for gay people?
RocketeerAndRoll 1 month ago
@UATimka So your claim is that gay marriage will make every heterosexual gay and unwilling to breed if it's legal? Vasectomies are legal...but not every man gets one - that would lead to extinction as well by your logic. Heck, condoms are legal and therefor man+woman+condom = extinction as well...yet we see your logic is totally screwed up.
JimHinCO 1 month ago
@JimHinCO this clown in this vid talking about God right! you all like his speech , that means you all belive in God! if you belive in God youll reed his word (bible) and in the bible its says that homosexuality is a sin and no one with sin will enter kingdom of God! 92% of all normal families will have kids! and you can bone one another all thay long youll never have kids form true love!
UATimka 1 month ago
@UATimka Can you translate that to English please? I've enjoyed many speeches in my time, even from Martin Luther King Jr., but it doesn't make me black. I've heard speeches from kids with gay parents...but my parents weren't gay. I've even heard speeches from Buddhists, etc. yet don't claim any of those as my religion. Where in the Bible are you speaking of? Old or New Testament? Which translation? And you seemed to be quite obsessed with sex rather than marriage. Are you simply not happy?
JimHinCO 1 month ago
@JimHinCO 1 corinthians 6:9-10 and romans 1:27-32 !
UATimka 1 month ago
@UATimka Ah, you made this easy. "Do you not know that the wicked will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: Neither the sexually immoral nor idolaters nor adulterers nor male prostitutes nor homosexual offenders" - homosexual OFFENDER and male prostitute - no the say as a gay man. You seemed to have missed all the heterosexuals in that statement...clearly, sexuality does NOT make one moral or immoral.
JimHinCO 1 month ago
@UATimka 1:27-32 - you seemed to love to pick and choose scripture. Whom was Paul talking of in 1:1-1:26? Oh, those that prayed to golden statues, idolotry, etc. God gave them over (changed in some interpretations) to homosexuality. It was punishment for idolotry. When you are punished, is the punishment the sin, or the result of the transgression?
JimHinCO 1 month ago
@UATimka
I can quote from Hitler's Mein Kempf, it doesn't really mean anything. Stop using an ancient book of laws to defend your actions. There are also laws about how you should kill your children in the Bible.
RocketeerAndRoll 1 month ago
@UATimka Look, 80% of this country is Christian; your views are shared by many. You can have your beliefs and practice your religion freely without restriction. No one's mind has to change about homosexuality. What do you hope your beliefs will achieve? Do you support harassment of gays? Conversion? Want them to disappear? Gays will continue to be who they are. You're creating an environment where gay kids feel that suicide is preferable to life. Let them love and marry. Love is life.
tytheeman20 1 month ago 2
@tytheeman20 i dont thing anybody should be abused but gay people have more rights than us normal people and they still cry for more rights! Kids suicide everyday for all kinds of reasons ( avatar movie, video games , and girl problems) + gay people have 40% higher suicide rate because of their life style! my former manager was gay, he died from some kind of shit that he would NOT have if he would be normal! back in high school gay kid touched my ass , i barely pushed him and i got suspended ! Y
UATimka 1 month ago
@UATimka You have very twisted view of reality and it's probably because you're either young or to dense to think. Gay people have more rights than you? Innocent gay people are kicked out of their homes, they can be fired from their job because of who they are, they're discriminated against when applying for housing, insurance, and immigration. They can't get married in most places. Gays commit suicide because they're repressed by their government and family. That's what's not normal.
tytheeman20 1 month ago
@UATimka What is a 'gay lifestyle'? I'm genuinely curious.
vilgessuola 1 month ago
@UATimka I have more rights? I can't adopt, get married, give blood, and legally I can get kicked out of a public place for being gay in the state of Ohio. There are over 500 different species that have been homosexual. But only one hates them. Humans... Don't you dare tell me I have more rights than you. You are a bigot and a false motivator.
YoureIrritating 1 month ago
@UATimka I swear, you MUST be smarter than this.
PsychoticNeurotic 1 month ago
@UATimka None of that is a 'sexual orientation', rather sexual preferences as to what gets your rocks off. All of that can be experienced with male/male, female/male, couples, etc. I will accept anything where both parties are of age, willing and wanting.
As for your ignorant extinction comment. There are 7 billion people on earth - people need to STOP having kids! I believe it's something like 21, 000 kids die a day, almost all preventable. We need to take care of the people already here.
nkaywage 1 month ago
@nkaywage by your comment its sounds like you are old pervert! kids are the best thing that can happen to loving family!
UATimka 1 month ago
@UATimka Actually, I'm 21 year old female that can't physically have kids, but that doesn't mean I can't adopt and love a child from another just like it were my own. Same goes for LOVING same sex families.
nkaywage 1 month ago
THANKYOU
elenavlada 1 month ago
god simply did not created something for people to hate, its your choice to hate a gay guy,
elenavlada 1 month ago
smart man.
sxxxhvampire 1 month ago
Lost of hate being preached in the comments...and it ain't from the people who oppose same-sex marriage.
1RedshirtXLG 1 month ago
Thank you, sir, thank you.
Sahwyn29 1 month ago
Just imagine,go on,do it,imagine everyone around the wolrd was gay.You knew you should be gay,but something tells you're not.What are you gonna do?! Well THAT'S what we have to put up with every damn day of our lives.People telling us 'You should be str8'.And yet people become angry,upset,confused when we defend ourselves.Just try imagining how it would be for YOU if the tables were turned.Better yet,try some tolerance!
popazz1 1 month ago
Wow! A politician who doesn't toe party line but thinks for himself!
misscatalina711 1 month ago
@holyghostboy3 Do you also believe agree that every man is free to sell his daughter into sexual slavery? . If you believe the bible is the word of God you should do, read Exodus 21:7-11.
"Do you believe you should stone your brother, son or daughter to death if they serve other Gods?". If you believe the bible is the word of God you should do (see Deuteronomy 13:6, 8-15).
Do you believe your God is a racist, bigoted, homophobic, cruel, vindictive, genocidal bigot? If you believe the bible
ukphillip 1 month ago
Wow. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. This is brilliant. Articulate and to the point.
ukphillip 1 month ago
IMO god created gay people to somehow balance the earth out. Imagine how over populated the earth would be if everyone was straight are reproduce. This ties in to natural selection and how nature takes its course.
01dcazares 1 month ago
a political man with integrity
trevortrevortsr2 1 month ago 11
Is he on the ballot? No? Why the fuck not?
Chapter1Tormented 1 month ago
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MEN + MEN = EXTICTION
WOMEN + WOMEN = EXTICTION
WOMEN + MEN = CHILD/REPLENISH
GOD TOLD ADAM AND EVE TO REPLENISH THE EARTH THAT WOULD NOT BE POSSIBLE IF IT WAS ADAM AND STEVE OR EVE AND EVA
I JUDGE NO ONE BUT THE WORD DOES WHICH IS JESUS
HolyGhostBoy3 1 month ago
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DID U READ THEY EXCHANGED THE TRUTH ABOUT GOD FOR A LIE THE MEN ALSO ABANDONED (NATURAL!!) RELATIONS WITH WOMEN AND WERE INFLAMED WITH LUST FOR ONE ANOTHER. MEN COMMITTED (SHAMEFUL!!!) ACTS WITH OTHER MEN, AND RECEIVED IN THEMSELVES THE DUE PENALTY FOR THEIR ERROR. IT IS UNNATURAL FOR A MEN TO BE WITH A MAN SAME WAY WITH A WOMAN NO MATTER WHAT ANYONE SAYS IF U DIE GAY/HOMOSEXUAL U WILL GO TO HELL POINT BLANK! U HAVE BEEN WARNED!!!!!!!
HolyGhostBoy3 1 month ago
@HolyGhostBoy3 look, gay people don't choose to be gay. god made them that way. I am gay. I love god and Christ with all my heart. Will I go to Hell?
pianofogel1 1 month ago
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25 They exchanged the truth about God for a lie, and worshiped and served created things rather than the Creator—who is forever praised. Amen. 26 Because of this, God gave them over to shameful lusts. Even their women exchanged natural sexual relations for unnatural ones. 27 In the same way the men also abandoned natural relations with women and were inflamed with lust for one another. Men committed shameful acts with other men, and received in themselves the due penalty for their error.
HolyGhostBoy3 1 month ago
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21 For although they knew God, they neither glorified him as God nor gave thanks to him, but their thinking became futile and their foolish hearts were darkened. 22 Although they claimed to be wise, they became fools 23 and exchanged the glory of the immortal God for images made to look like a mortal human being and birds and animals and reptiles. 24 Therefore God gave them over in the sinful desires of their hearts to sexual impurity for the degrading of their bodies with one another.
HolyGhostBoy3 1 month ago
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ok here is what God says Roman 1:18-27 18 The wrath of God is being revealed from heaven against all the godlessness and wickedness of people, who suppress the truth by their wickedness, 19 since what may be known about God is plain to them, because God has made it plain to them. 20 For since the creation of the world God’s invisible qualities—his eternal power and divine nature—have been clearly seen, being understood from what has been made, so that people are without excuse.
HolyGhostBoy3 1 month ago
@HolyGhostBoy3 Look everyone...we got us a HOLY ROLLER JESUS FREAK! Guess what dumbass....IF you believe EVERY word of the bible, we are ALL fucked...you do know that was supposedly written over 2000 years ago in a totally different time. Grow up and get out of the 1950's. Times have changed....it's NATURAL to be gay. Who in their right mind would CHOOSE a lifestyle to be persecuted, harassed, beat up, or worse KILLED just because they like someone of the own sex?
Starbuckfsd 1 month ago
gay, straight, it's actually no big deal. i like girls and boys. we all do. it's when we choose to make it a big deal that it becomes one. religion has nothing to do with it. if god hated gays, why would he let it happen? i was homophobic when i first learned about gays. but i was just afraid. then i became bisexual. funny how that works.
TheLolMayonaise 1 month ago
Leviticus 18:22
You shall not lie with a male as with a woman; it is an abomination.
THEHELENOHENZO 1 month ago
@THEHELENOHENZO Leviticus 18:21 ;)
Besides, Old Testament law doesn't apply to Christians.
tecaltabiano 1 month ago
@tecaltabiano -Hear, you earth: I am bringing disaster on this people, the fruit of their schemes, because they have not listened to my words and have rejected my law. Jeremiah 6:19
-Or do you not know that wrongdoers will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: Neither the sexually immoral nor idolaters nor adulterers nor male prostitutes nor practicing homosexuals I corinthians 6:9
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BE SINGLE LIKE PAUL WAS
THEHELENOHENZO 1 month ago
@THEHELENOHENZO On Corinthians...did you read the footnote that your version has on "practicing homosexuals"? If I'm not mistaken on the versions, the footnote should clarify that by "practicing homosexuals", the translators of that version of the Bible specifically meant the clients of those same male prostitutes.
tecaltabiano 1 month ago
If Paul (who is the original author of this verse and wrote it in Ancient Greek) had meant homosexuals in general, he could have used a common Greek word used at the time: "paiderasste". However, instead of using this common word, Paul instead INVENTED the word "arsenokoitai", which he never defined, so it could mean anything. In fact, at the times of Martin Luther, it was believed "arsenokoitai" meant masturbator.
tecaltabiano 1 month ago
So really, the chances that this verse means homosexuals in general are pretty slim.
tecaltabiano 1 month ago
@THEHELENOHENZO Nothing like an ignorant gentile quoting form a book she or he cannot read or understand in the original language. The terxt you are quoting is from the purity laws and refers to pagan temple prostitution not homosexuality in general.
jonpetry 1 month ago
It is nearly impossible to speak directly to prejudiced people. Thank you for your clear and considered position.
River8long 1 month ago
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@River8long Leviticus 18:22
You shall not lie with a male as with a woman; it is an abomination.
THEHELENOHENZO 1 month ago
Now that is one of the reason why people who believe in god have no human rights to believe in.As much as you say that god created everything why does he hate gays.
MrRobocop12 1 month ago
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@MrRobocop12 BECAUSE HE TO BE TESTED not to go after our sick mind pleasures
Leviticus 18:22
You shall not lie with a male as with a woman; it is an abomination.
THEHELENOHENZO 1 month ago
@THEHELENOHENZO Fuck...another bible thumping Jesus Freak...
Starbuckfsd 1 month ago
Rokdrumrchick
Sure thing thanks bunches :•3
nintendonerd2011 2 months ago
This video made me feel good. You are an awesome man!
zeldapudding 2 months ago 20
@zeldapudding NOW YOU GUYS WENT TOO FAR God accept Gays? it is an abomination WE HAVE CHALLENGES IN LIFE bad and good WE SHOULD NEVER ACCEPT BAD ONES we here in this world to be tested PRACTICE BEING GAY IS THIS FIRST CRIME THAT ACTUALLY CAN DESTROY OUR SOCIETY it is one the biggest signs of the times I THINK AS SOON THE REPUBLICANS WIN WHITE HOUSE AND MAJORITY IN CONGRESS, GAY MARRIAGES WILL BANNED
THEHELENOHENZO 1 month ago
@THEHELENOHENZO lol that's not very nice now is it? :p oh well, I like boys, and I love God. Get over it homophobe and love thy neighbor
zeldapudding 1 month ago
@THEHELENOHENZO Get over yourself...if it wasn't for gays there would be no fashion...no good music (producers) TV/Movies...Newsflash dumbass narrowminded little fuck: Gay people are everywhere! You probably even know some and don't even fucking no it. You don't PRACTICE being gay idiot...you're born that way...Jesus Fucking Christ you religious fucks are what's gonna destroy our society...
Starbuckfsd 1 month ago
@THEHELENOHENZO I doubt you have spoken with your god recently but I did and he said to tell you that you are an asshole.
jonpetry 1 month ago
@nintendonerd2011 You should look up my other youtube, intothehedges. I started Into the Hedges as a place for lgbtq people to go who have questions about being gay or Christian or a gay Christian. It's just getting started, but it would be cool if you guys would check it out. And don't come in there being hateful - there's too much hate in the world as it is.
rokdrumrchik 2 months ago
@MajorVanceAstro Sorry it took me so long to reply to your reply to me. Yes I have read the Bible. To tell me that I don't know God just because I don't agree with you is insulting. You don't know me - you don't know the things I've been through, so don't judge me. I have been in church since I was born and I have a great relationship with God. He loves me even though I'm gay. What happened to the "Whosoever" in John 3:16?!
rokdrumrchik 2 months ago
Gnotame
You're a fucking dumbass. Being gay is NOT choice. It's biologically proven that a harmone produced by the mother during pregnancy causes a person to be gay. Watch a video called "what makes people gay?" by gaychristiannetwork it says it all in that video. By the way, if anyone has any questions on Christianity and being gay look up gay christian answers on YouTube.
nintendonerd2011 2 months ago
@nintendonerd2011 Dude...I said it wasnt a gene calm the fuck down.
gnotame 2 months ago
@nintendonerd2011 Care to quote where this research is? Or what your source is? Why would we watch the gaychristiannetwork. They are the LAST fucks to know what makes people Gay. They are just using that platform to brandish their hate. It looks like you bought right into their bullshit...Bravo...
Starbuckfsd 1 month ago
FUCK YEA!
Dslater417 2 months ago
Well said! :>)
visceralguy 2 months ago
there is no gene linked to sexuality, so it is not something you are born with. It is a choice, not saying that it (gay marriage) should be completely outlawed because many other cultures have accepted it for quite some time.
gnotame 2 months ago