If you are willing to grant that there is NOT a conspiracy by the collected scientific community, than answering where all this stuff came from is easy: Big Bang. If you're asking what caused the big bang, the answer is simple but unfulfilling: No one knows.
If Jesus was a religious zealot nutcase, as you claim, thanks a lot for finally being the geniuses that this world has been waiting for all these millenia. Now....whew...been dying to ask this all my life....please tell me....how did all this "stuff" get here? And...oh, yes, please...if you don't mind my asking....what is the meaning of life? Anybody here is qualified to answer...please let me know...I'm dying to know....
I think that separation of church and state. That freedom of practising religion is OK, but a personal business, not something that is in controll. I cannot possibly see how religious autority can do any good, I mean just look at the history of the catholic church,only the last century. Many people died during wwII because of it, not only that, just look at the islamic states in the Middle east(Im now talking about those governed by islamic law)Africa and Indonesia. Human rights issues there are
This page was created for all people who think that the border pure nonsense!That racial,religious or any other kind of intolerance things in the future should not exist!Let us unite for the good of humanity,believe in the man's soul!Let us help each other and be better!One nation(People From The Earth),one faith,faith in people and goodness!Let us leave malice,hatred and vanity aside!
@homelesspoet A great way to combat religion is to mock and insult it. Thomas Jefferson said "Ridicule is the only weapon which can be used against unintelligible propositions. Ideas must be distinct before reason can act upon them; and no man ever had a distinct idea of the trinity. It is the mere Abracadabra of the mountebanks calling themselves the priests of Jesus."
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FACT: GOD IS VERY REAL AND LOVES US ALL UNCONDITONALLY.
FACT: THE BIBLE IS MOSTLY FANTASY AND HAS BEEN USED FOR CENTURIES TO INSTILL FEAR.
FACT: THERE IS NO DEVIL OR HELL. WHEN WE DIE, WE GO BACK HOME TO THE OTHER SIDE AND ANYONE WHO IS TRULY DARK OR EVIL WILL SIMPLY COME BACK AND DO IT ALL OVER AGAIN UNTIL THEY GET IT RIGHT.
FACT: WE ALL HAVE FREE CHOICE AND WE ALL CHOOSE OUR LIVES, WHO WE WILL BE AND HOW WE WILL DIE. GOD HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH IT, WE MAKE OUR OWN CHOICES IN LIFE.
You, guys on YouTube! You express views that make me believe we CAN get rid of religion and live together in peace after all! That the next generation will be smart enough to trash all divisive myths!
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There's also a mental disorder called Narcissistic personality disorder. A lot of Atheists seem to suffer from this far to often. I think you guys should take some advice from Penn Jilette, he at least has enough decency to respect people who do have opposing opinions.
I'll be just as concerned by your diagnosis of my "mental disorder" (you do broadly indict atheists), as I fear the "hell" to which you condem my everlasting soul.
@dfarmer1584 HAHA lmfao you totally nailed that guy. Great comment! On this note i heard something the other day: "Atheist fundamentalists are a problem" - WTF?!??!!?
@homelesspoet It's not just a difference of opinions. Theists basically believe a crazy idea just because it's an old idea. Theists completely disregard the possibility that people two thousand years ago could make a book that says things that aren't true.
A crazy conspiracy theorist's opinion that alien, reptillian, shapeshifters came here and disguised themselves as political figures is just as valid as a theists opinion that god exists. Neither have any proof of it being true. Both are crazy.
@ninjajesus81 so i"m crazy because I believe in a Creator, but it's ok for someone to believe that our existence came out of a random accident, it's like saying you can put a bunch of metal into a blender and pull out a watch. Also a what about atheists that are now saying that we were placed here by the process of panspermia? are they nut jobs too? Sorry but it would take more faith to believe we evolved from amoeba. even if i was an atheists i would have problems with evolution.
@homelesspoet No, the idea is crazy. You're not necessarily crazy because you believe it. The idea isn't looked at as crazy because it's so widespread and has been around so long. But it's no more valid than the belief that Silver Surfer created the universe. Neither ideas have any proof that they're true.
@ninjajesus81The title they dont like to quote "On the Origin of Species by Means of Natural Selection, or the Preservation of Favoured Races in the Struggle for Life" --Charles Darwin
That book has lead to nazism, eugenics, etc etc. thats what i would call crazy
@homelesspoet The title who doesn't like to quote? Do you know what the title means? Here's a quote from Wikipedia. "Here the term "races" is used as an alternative for "varieties" and does not carry the modern connotation of human races—the first use in the book refers to "the several races, for instance, of the cabbage" and proceeds to a discussion of "the hereditary varieties or races of our domestic animals and plants"."
@ninjajesus81 I'm sorry but Darwin at one point in his early life was very bigoted, he was an elitist and he was friends with bigots who really bought into evolution because it gave credence to their racism( Aldous Huxley) they even married close kin to preserve their bloodlines, cause they though they were superior. And I'm suppose to think this guy is the authority on the origins og life, sorry but I dont buy it.
@homelesspoet So Darwin and Huxley were friends? How is that possible when Darwin died before Huxley was even born?
You have any proof of what you say? People commonly married their first cousins back then.
I gave a passage that says your interpretation of the book's title is wrong. You have any counter-evidence?
Darwin isn't the authority of the origins of life. Evolution doesn't even explain the origins of life. I don't think you have any idea what you're talking about.
@ninjajesus81 sorry I did get that wrong, I was thinking of someone else. Huxley was heavily influenced by Darwin. Sorry I had some names mixed up. You are right, he is not the only authority on evolution but evolution has it's basis in the writing of a very racist man, so that to me is questionable. I mean the guy actually states that Africans and Aborigines occupy a sub-species between white caucasians and baboons. If thats not racist then I dont know what is.
@homelesspoet "...evolution has it's basis in the writing of a very racist man, so that to me is questionable." Oh? Why? Newton was a nasty guy; it's irrelevant to his great discoveries. And WHICH very racist man? Darwin? (head meets desk)
1) Evolution was known before his birth;
2) He went against opinion (Christian!) of the time insisting that Africans were NOT inferior to whites. Read his book on the voyage of The Beagle & his letters; he was ANTI-racism, ANTI-slavery
@homelesspoet ""That book has lead to nazism, eugenics, etc etc." You have nothing to back up those assertions.
Darwin's work was banned under the Nazis, and all writings referring to it; burned with other forbidden books. Hitler stated in Mein Kampf that new species do not arise; only small changes are possible & anything else is an affront to God. Darwin was explicitly anti-eugenics.
I suggest that you research for yourself instead of going around ignorantly repeating deliberate lies.
@homelesspoet "I'm sorry but Darwin at one point in his early life was very bigoted..." Huh? He may have been more christian in early life, but apart from that..?
What others may have thought or proposed based on his work has *zero* bearing on the truth of natural selection theory.
"I'm suppose to think this guy is the authority on the origins og life" Nope, but it would be cool if you would just *think*!
Evolution was an established fact before Darwin was born. He just worked out *how*.
@homelesspoet The only reason the full title is not generally used is ignorance & the fact that it's long & clumsy for most, just as people refer to books Alice in Wonderland (Alice's Adventures in Wonderland) & Alice Through the Looking Glass (Through the Looking Glass and What Alice Found There).
"Favoured races" is not about ethnicity in humans, as you would know if you'd bothered to read some of the book or research that title at all. Intellectual laziness spreads ignorance
@homelesspoet Your watch analogy doesn't work because life didn't automatically start as complex as a watch. It starts very simple then gets more and more complex through trial and error. If you put metal in a blender, you can't expect a watch, but you may get a simple shape of metal that's stuck together when you pull it out. It's more complex than when you first put the metal in the blender.
@ninjajesus81 I beg to differ, "the simple cell", as Darwin liked to call it lol, is more complex than a watch anyway, just do some research on the functions of a single cell. So yeah evolution is basically sating what I said about the watch.
@homelesspoet If I look up the functions of a single cell, I'm going to find the functions of a MODERN cell, right? Do you think evolution argues that this MODERN cell sprang into existence as complex as it is today?
@homelesspoet Never heard of panspermia, but I looked it up and it doesn't sound crazy at all. So maybe simple life was on an asteroid and when it landed on earth, it started evolving. I don't think anyone says they know for sure that's what happened, but they're probably just proposing that as a possibility.
If you don't know how evolution works, it's easy to say you don't believe it. If you don't know algebra, you'd probably not believe that .999... = 1
@homelesspoet There's more proof of evolution than proof of just about any other theory. No creature has ever been found that defies evolution. Through their knowledge of evolution, people have even predicted the existence of animals that hadn't even been discovered yet.
To not believe in evolution is to just be deliberately stubborn.
@homelesspoet "...even if I was an atheists i would have problems with evolution" No, you wouldn't. A few weeks studying would clear up most of your questions (not re the origin of life, another subject).
If you were an atheist your intellect wouldn't be hampered by having had your head filled with lies, in this case particularly re Darwin, that you then go around repeating.
Doesn't that bother you? Get angry with those lying to you! They're making you look foolish.
@homelesspoet "I think you guys should take some advice from Penn Jilette, he at least has enough decency to respect people who do have opposing opinions."
You mean Penn "the bible is BULLSHIT!" Jilette? I respect people by default until they do or say something to lose my respect; & then it only goes in degrees. But like Penn Jilette, I don't respect others' *beliefs* when I strongly disagree with them. Anyone who claims to do so is, like so many religious leaders, a hypocrite.
@MrTruthAddict of course when you are arrogant and go out of your way to insult people and their beliefs, I'd say you do find it rather hard to respect people.
@homelesspoet your beliefs are an insult to our intelligence. Yours included. Fairy tale believers are deserving of ridicule and your tactic of playing victim and demanding respect while you insult those who use logic and reason. We won't tolerate people who are pushing us towards armageddon with your silly belief system.
@MrTruthAddict Trust me I don't feel like a victim, just don't understand why atheists are so hostile toward people who believe in supernatural things. I honestly think that atheists spend more time thinking about the Christian faith more than christians do, why is that? I don't believe that Jason Vorhees exists, so i dont spend a lot of time worrying about him and you want see bookshelves full of books that i have written explaining why he doesn't exists.
"I honestly think that atheists spend more time thinking about the Christian faith more than Christians do, why is that?"
That's because faith has an enormous influence on billions of lives, and not in a good way. If you can bring me one other *human* cause having such devastating effect on humanity, I promise, as people trying to fight bad ideas around the world, we will assign half of our atheist resources to it!
@homelesspoet imaginary father figures in the sky are no ones threat. It is the HUMANS that follow the religious BS that are the threat, pushing their ignorant views unto the logical free thinkers out there.
@MrTruthAddict I'm more logical and have more reason than any atheist, and that's because I'm a lot more knowledgeable on various things that atheists know nothing about. I get so fed up with people who know nothing, constantly acting is if their ignorant views are reasonable and true, and those who don't agree are unreasonable and an insult. If there were room here, I'd stick you with a huge pile of pointed questions that would make you look like a fool and show you to be the insult to humans.
I can only assume you're trying to say that you're not an Atheist and that you believe in a theological "God".
Logic - •the branch of philosophy that analyzes inference
if you take a nice look at the reasoning behind the Bible, Koran, and any other "Holy Book" it's written by a man. Considering new semi-religions or cults appear everyday, you can easily use your outstanding reasoning to piece together that it's false along with these other "Religions" or cults.
@homelesspoet I have plenty of respect for ppl with religious beliefs,my parents believe in a personal diety. But they are very clear about what they do and dont believe. The west boro baptistchurch are also clear about what they believe, they believe in the bible. I do not respect beliefs that allow ppl to b violently intolerant of others and I believe most atheists would agree w me when I say we're tired of seeing perfectly good people turned into nuts because behavior supported in the bible
@homelesspoet why don't you shut the hell up and at leasst have the balls to admit that the bible has some less than civilized behavior that NEEDS revision. I capitalize need because I doubt you're going to bother to take the seriousness and danger of religious belief into account. You ppl that r unwilling to see what religion does to the world have a disorder. Its very easy to fix and its called stupidity. You can still b religious and b a critic of it. That is actually more convincing
@homelesspoet likewise. it's incredible how seriously people are willing to believe in Santa Claus because their parents forced them too when they were children. Not Santa Claus, i mean jesus.. no no... i mean allah...no no... i mean thor.
@homelesspoet This is just.....another fail. I'm atheist, I'm narcissist so what? That's no illness it's called high selfsteem. Something you don't have.
If this is a part of the American educational system I'd rather stay in my 3rd world country. How can this go on over there? It's like a cult for goodness sakes!
This is childhood indoctrination in it's most vile unadulterated form. Disgusting.
Actually he is trying to educate people who are ignorant of understanding religion. i find it amusing that people waste so much time here arguing who is moral and who is not when the most immoral acts occur by religious zealots! Yes, that includes satanists. Car bombings, Jihad, Crusades and midevil torture on non-christians, intolerance of women, killing in the name of god, destroying secular or religiously different cultures, genocide, etc. How is his view disgusting? Seriously?
@darkfur35 The legal systems of pretty much every modern society on this planet are secular moral codes. Try invoking God in the court room. See how far you get.
@darkfur35 Is there anything about the US legal system that requires me to believe in an invisible supreme being? Religions may have a few good ideas about ethics and morality, but none of them require nonsensical superstitious beliefs.
I only saw the BR logo thumbnail and am assuming something. Just in case so you know. Bad Religion has never been intolerant of religion. The logo is not to be taken literally. It was made for punks to be worn on a t-shirt or patch and piss people off.
If you don't admit the truth to yourself, I'll do it for you: "This is the verdict: Light has come into the world, but men loved darkness instead of light because their deeds were evil. Anyone who does evil hates the light and will not come into the light, lest his deeds be exposed. But whoever lives by the Truth comes into the light so that it may be seen plainly that what he has done has been done through God." -John 3: 19
Wicked man can not tolerate the thought of judgment for sin.
People use their supposed "hate for religion" as a means to openly attack the God of the Bible on a personal level: the only God whom they know is a judge of sin. Man hates God because he can't be god.
my mum believes in god jesus and heaven, doesn't go to church or anything. i see no point in ruining that for her, she thinks her dead friends are in heaven she thinks jesus watches over me.... she also believes in astrology that i dont mind arguing with her about that
@sphereofinfluence247 no your missing the point, best explained by example..... if a group of people are arguing about wether or not we should do stem cell research, and one guy says 'im a biologist, i have evidence to suggest that even a 5 day old feutus feels pain' another says 'im a neurologist, it is not real pain that they feel' then another guy says 'my bible tells me that the feutus has a soul, we cant do stem cell research' ... harris is suggesting that we ignore the last guys view
umm, i have listen to 5 of your vidoes and every time u mention that christian are lunitics and arnt in our right minds... could you please have an argument on wheather or not Jesus is who He says He because if you really don't look into it you are allegedly as dogmatic as us christians
Harris mentions something I have often considered: What would an adult who has never heard of god or religion think if someone came to his door and told him about it. We are desensitized to it because we have been hearing about it our whole lives. I saw an interesting video called "christian missionary deconverted by tribe" about a missionary who went to pester some Africans who had no concept of god. It was great: they deconverted him!
@jimbrown257 "What would an adult who has never heard of god or religion think if someone came to his door and told him about it. "
I think ethnologists have written about this.
I remember watching some documentary about Papua New Guinea, where some guys who'd been proseltysed-at in the forest were frankly baffled by the Xian mind-body-afterlife concept; it seemed ridiculous & unlikely, but got consideration - cos the white guys appeared wealthy, powerful, authoritative & knowledgeable.
Thanks, Jim - I did, as soon as I left this vid the other day. Wow!!!!!!!!!.
My first encounter with Christianity was sitting at a "table" of tiny school desks, teacher & kids cutting-out & colouring etc - glue, glitter & poster-paint. On the table a book, a pastel-misty picture of a man nailed to a plank. Horizontal, I assumed.) I'd never suspected such things were possible, but it had to be deliberate. Cue Twilight Zone fear-creep: no-one was bothered or paid it any mind at all!
As a child raised to age 5 in happy ignorance of anything religious (pre-TV days) I was as nonplussed by "the bible" as I still am by Icelandic creation-myths & sagas: half the time you're asking yourself "Why on earth...?" The most basic plots are just incomprehensible. Why would anyone living in a largely egalitarian kin-group in a vast, bountiful forest "get" the first thing about Moses? All the taking orders, running around in distant forests making strangers unhappy - why??
I was taken to church as a kid and they tried to feed me the bible foolishness but, from the first time hearing about it, I rejected it; I remember sitting in church thinking it was like something out of The Twilight Zone (though I didn't know about the TZ then) because it was so crazy that all the adults could believe such obviously made-up nonsense.
I agree with and enjoy Mr. Harris often. But it would not be schizophrenia and he shows in this clip his further lack of understanding in the psycho-social field. By his terms we would then make definitions for what "thinking good" is, apart from the statistical norms and more verifiable criteria of a population. We aren't that smart yet. Laymen should not act as professionals determining sanity or diagnosing a genetic mental disorder in line with delusional thought
For the time will come when people will not put up with sound doctrine. Instead, to suit their own desires, they will gather around them a great number of teachers to say what their itching ears want to hear.
reason is what Sam Harris promotes. Reason. Never in any society did a civilization be TOO REASONABLE and then things went amuck. lol yeah..ohhh man you guys are just too reasonable....too much reason for me....
( we came from no where and are going nowhere) thats the athiest bottom line. there is a lot of human foul play and interference in religion, no question about that. there is no reason in athiesm. SAM HARRis is trying to find one, he will never find it in materialism
again Sam has said over and over again atheism is a word with no content. ie. you're an atheist when it comes to Thor being God. And saying Sam wont find reason, is assuming he seeking it. He's not he uses reason.
the ur looking for is skeptic (agnistic or something like it). there are ultimate truths waiting to be explored, with science and logic (morality) we will be able to understand them
There is no doubt that society is far better off if it's citizens behave morally. If the church wants to administer moral teachings, that's fine. Unfortunately, they take the stance that fear of hell is the best way to tatoo this on our brains. I would prefer an honest approach. Without the claims of knowing the will of god. State simply, what is best for mankind, a common goal of happiness and security
In a time when you cannot look down the street without seeing some immoral or disgusting act, how can you argue against the one institution that attempts to teach morality? I am a Presbyterian, we focus more on bettering ourselves, to lead a better life, to expect more of ourselves. Schools do not teach respect for our fellow man and parents are too lazy to do it. Thank God for the one institution that will take on the responsibility, even in the face of ridicule.
@jts1187, most of the immoral and disgusting acts I witness are committed by christians. The catholics I know personally, and have known, all to varying degrees cheat, lie, steal and invent & spread malicious gossip. Ok, you're not catholic, & my CofE neighbours are a little better but not much. I am an atheist. *I* don't do any of those things.
In the countries in the West that have the most atheists you get the best moral behaviour.
(cont'd) Those with highest rates of christians have the very worst problems from immorality (USA scores very badly).
I'm talking about highest rates of unwanted teenage pregnancies, STDs, children in care, murders & other violent crimes, %age of population in prison, etc. The USA is the biggest consumer of pornography on this planet.
So, if churches are trying to teach morality they are obviously failing miserably.
paolo27, it may well be a chicken & egg problem (does religion cause ignorance, poverty and social ills or just do really well when those things are already around?).
What's wrong with porn? I'm not sure, to be honest. Some people (I mean mostly women) in the industry are not in it out of completely free choice. Something tells me it's not a Good Thing to spend a lot of time on sexual fantasies, esp.if you need a constant supply of new pics/vids to keep that going. Maybe.
@queenastilon I often wonder if religion causes stupidity or if the stupid gravitate towards religion. While I think it is a combination of both, I think religion causes stupidity more than vice versa. The reason for this is the charts that show the average IQ within the states. The states that are more religious for cultural reasons always have lower IQs. If stupidity caused religion, it shouldn't be localized like that.
@jimbrown257 Well stupidity may not be exactly the same as ignorance but religion does promote ignorance by pretending to have all the answers. Religious people stop wanting to learn things when they think they already have all the answers. Also religion conditions the mind to not think for yourself but rather just accept what they tell you to think. A mind like that may have a harder time dealing with an IQ test
They hate critical thinking. Don McLeroy, the fundie who was in charge of the recent rewriting of Texas text books fiassco, and a YEC, said one of the things he wanted to de-emphasize was all "the critical thinking goobledy-gook" (his words).
@jimbrown257 Of course they hate critical thinking, and probably fear it. Critical thinkers are capable of exposing the lies that make up the foundations of their institutions. They made a crime out of pointing out where their scriptures contradicted reality for this very reason.
If god damns all unbaptized children, even those who never even hear about god, then... what a douche!
And if only those who hear about christianity and reject it go to hell, and missionaries are going out and giving thousands the chance to reject god and go to hell, then... what douches!
And if people think the unbaptized good people still get to go to "limbo", which was invented by Christians in the Middle ages (after people thought "wait that sucks that can't be right")... well you know...
Actually, the Catholic clergy recently had a conference where the decided limbo didn't really exist. The pope's quote was hilarious: "Limbo has never been more than a hypothesis."
You know, unlike the other stuff which is well supported fact, lol!
Bone chips and fragments are far more in the way of proof than your side has - which is NOTHING but "faith" another way of saying I will not be confused with facts. Put that in your kool-aid glass and drink it - oh I see you already have been hitting the jug for awhile......time for an intervention and long rehab stint if you are to be saved.
You're a moron. He's not saying religious people are uneducated retards.
In fact he's saying just the opposite...
Religion is only allowed to live on because it's so indoctrinated in our society. You can't criticize it without being viewed negatively. So people are allowed to believe it without any criticism. And basically it's wrong to ever wholey believe something without thinking about it. That's why you have your essays "peer reviewed". Checks and balances - religion has none. Ergo, wrong.
Well demographically speaking, in the US, high concentrations of religious people are statistically correlated with high concentrations of inbred, uneducated retards. But even more than that, I think it's perfectly justified to call even the educated ones retards because, as the guest said, we are highly and rudely discriminatory as a nation toward other unsupported claims. The religious must stop comparing race discrimination to deprecation of unfounded beliefs.
Always reply in love and patience if they happen to be angry!!
Never reply in anger.
Just love them!
You are the light of the world!! Show them that light!!
You will learn from this audio that mockers and atheists have lots of hate towards you. Do not give in to this!! Love them back so much more!! Also keep up the tempo with lots of patience!!
The sight of those young kids at the jesus camp makes my blood boil. Kids should not be exposed to their parents religious delusions until they are 18 years old; but preferably never.
@hoadmaback Why is it so awful? you satanists rule the rest of the world. turn on public broadcasting & all you see is death & sinful wickedness as a means of entertainment for kids. you rule the media which is the ultimate brainwashing tactic, but it angers you to see kids learning about righteousness & morality? could you be any more backwards? atheism is forced on us in school but damned we don't fall for your satanic religion, huh?
I don't think stoning women who lost their virginity is righteous or moral. The problem with the referring back to the bible is that it doesn't change (not anymore since the printing press). However, society has moved on to a different type of morality. Today, women losing their virginity before marriage isn't bad anymore, but having sex with 10 year olds is paedophilia, which use to be acceptable at the biblical times.
@blattt188 "you satanists rule the rest of the world." Huh? Satanism is religious; atheists are not. "...all you see is death & sinful wickedness as a means of entertainment for kids" as opposed to the good old days when good christians took the kids on happy outings to view real public torture & taught them to yell joyously as those falsely denounced as witches (by christians) screamed for mercy for hours while very slowly roasted to death? ...or to lynchings, taking home a keepsake ear?
@blattt188 "...it angers you to see kids learning about righteousness & morality?" It angers rational people to see kids' heads being filled with superstition
"atheism is forced on us in school..." HUH? No, religion was forced on us in school for a long time, less so in most now. Nowhere is atheism forced! Saying "you don't have to pray if you don't want to" is NOT forcing anything
Atheism a religion? Good grief. Ignorance as bad as yours should be illegal; it's certainly a sin.
It's an awesome documentary about a crazy camp. Run by a fat crazed up manipulative child abuser (mentally at least, we've all seen them cry). Those people should be fixed to fit society in a normal fashion.
greyhall1 - It's disgraceful; I couldn't agree more.
Can you imagine telling an innocent young child that her playmates at school who sing different songs and read a different book on Sundays (or who wisely stay home) are destined for "hell" where they will burn for all eternity?
What could be more perverted and immoral than that?
I remember once as a child suggesting that my Jewish friend had fallen and gotten hurt because God didn't like him because he was Jewish. My mother seemed surprised at this; I thought it followed pretty logically from the things they taught at church.
@greyhall1 When you say it makes your blood boil to see Jesus being exposed to these children is like you hate to see these children tought morals and respect for man kind. Jesus and the Holy Bible is the Text Book as to what you should think in this life and how you should conduct yourself in life as to ling, stealing, and cheating others. All Morals comes from Jesus and the Holy Bible. In the yr. 100 AD there was no books on Morals or respect to read.
teaching kids morals and respect for man kind? where is that in the bible, cause I must have missed it between all the genocide, gang rape, baby killing, animal sacrifice, incest and murder.
You must have missed it; there is a brief passage between the gang rape and animal sacrifice. It's small and open to interpretation but it's there: And god sayeth to David "C'mon, be a guy!"
But keep in mind that, like all god's commandments, it only applies to men of the same color, religion, denomination, sect and political leanings. You don't want to go overboard with the love and respect.
@jimbrown257 "... like all god's commandments, it only applies to men of the same color, religion, denomination, sect and political leanings." Exactly!
Love thy neighbour means love they neighbour, not the differently-thinking, other-god-worshipping, foreign-looking types way over there 10 miles away.
Interesting about religious states having lower IQs; didn't know that. But stupidity/ignorance certainly predisposes one to believe bs.
You know that's not true; there were books from the Greeks, Indians and others that had moral and philosophical teaching that the NT drew from. There is very little original philosophy in the NT.
However, to use the NT as a moral guide (if you can't figure out for yourself not to be a dick) is a good thing. However, too many "christians" find that stuff is secondary to blind and unwavering belief that Jesus is god/his son.
I have yet to receive a civil reaction from anyone when I say that I am a Christian. I've been discriminated against far more for my beliefs than I've ever discriminated against others.
"I'm a Christian"
"HOW DARE YOU FORCE YOUR BELIEFS ON US!!"
I'm constantly labeled as being intolerant...I've never EVER ridiculed anyone for their beliefs...But I have been ridiculed countless times. Again, and again, and again, simply for what I am. Nothing more. Just simply being what I am.
well man the christian religion is huge! if you call yourself christian, people will think of not only the catholic christians, but also the mennonites and all of those cults that fall under christianity. People see christians as intolerant becasue a lot of christians ARE. Theres so many christians that do force their beliefs on others. Many catholics try to raise their kids to be god fearing, and have complete faith in the church. Every christain religion discourages free thought.
Boo fucking hoo! Wait till I get out my violin. You honestly expect anyone to believe that when you say: "I'm a Christian"... the immendiate response is very frequently: "HOW DARE YOU FORCE YOUR BELIEFS ON US!!"
ndjm00 - It wasn't so long ago that admitting the truth (that there is zero evidence to support belief in Christianity or any supernatural creator) could very well mean torture and death at the hands of the "faithful" mob. No, it's not often that Christians are confronted with reason... that is what the speaker is urging an end to. Either you weren't paying attention or you're simply not smart enough to get it.
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I wrote that comment 3 months ago. I dont have a notion who I wrote it in response to so I can't reallty put yours into context.... but how fucking sad re you!!! HAHA!
Yes but if you aren't ridiculing other people's beliefs, then according to the bible you're not doing it right. You're supposed to look down on gays, supposed to think black people are black because their forefather was cursed, supposed to not allow people missing part of their penis to approach the altar (Deut). If you're at all moral, you're supposed to be violently intolerant of your atheist friends' beliefs, because what could be more immoral than not saving your friends' souls?
He makes a very valid argument; Tell a conservative Christian man that his wife is cheating on him, or that frozen yogurt will be a cure-all for any disease. He would call you crazy and demand evidence as proof of your claim. Tell him that a cracker will "literally" transform into the body of Jesus. He will believe superstition and myths from an ancient book with no demand for evidence or criticism.
There's absolutely no biblical basis that a cracker will turn into flesh or that wine will turn into blood. Communion is a time of personal reflection where Christians remember what Jesus did for us. "eating" his flesh and "drinking" is blood is a -metaphor- that we are alive in Christ because he died for us.
A literal interpretation of communion is an invented ritual of the Catholic church.
If you are willing to grant that there is NOT a conspiracy by the collected scientific community, than answering where all this stuff came from is easy: Big Bang. If you're asking what caused the big bang, the answer is simple but unfulfilling: No one knows.
exodus22482 3 months ago
If Jesus was a religious zealot nutcase, as you claim, thanks a lot for finally being the geniuses that this world has been waiting for all these millenia. Now....whew...been dying to ask this all my life....please tell me....how did all this "stuff" get here? And...oh, yes, please...if you don't mind my asking....what is the meaning of life? Anybody here is qualified to answer...please let me know...I'm dying to know....
finishstrongdoc 3 months ago
appaling! Stoning, amputation, etc.
Not to mention all of the homophobia in these religions, and sometimes the aggresive antisemitism and hatred for people of other religions.
besmb2105 5 months ago
I think that separation of church and state. That freedom of practising religion is OK, but a personal business, not something that is in controll. I cannot possibly see how religious autority can do any good, I mean just look at the history of the catholic church,only the last century. Many people died during wwII because of it, not only that, just look at the islamic states in the Middle east(Im now talking about those governed by islamic law)Africa and Indonesia. Human rights issues there are
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achromatic20xx 5 months ago
Speak out! Speak up to that pious Christian zealot with the holly attitude. Change the world.
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helpmetony 7 months ago
stamp out the holly attitude!!!!
helpmetony 7 months ago
@mrtruthaddict- awww..resorting to insults are we? and you accuse us of being intolerant and insulting :) so typical
homelesspoet 8 months ago
@homelesspoet A great way to combat religion is to mock and insult it. Thomas Jefferson said "Ridicule is the only weapon which can be used against unintelligible propositions. Ideas must be distinct before reason can act upon them; and no man ever had a distinct idea of the trinity. It is the mere Abracadabra of the mountebanks calling themselves the priests of Jesus."
Pooternackle5 6 months ago
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FACT: GOD IS VERY REAL AND LOVES US ALL UNCONDITONALLY.
FACT: THE BIBLE IS MOSTLY FANTASY AND HAS BEEN USED FOR CENTURIES TO INSTILL FEAR.
FACT: THERE IS NO DEVIL OR HELL. WHEN WE DIE, WE GO BACK HOME TO THE OTHER SIDE AND ANYONE WHO IS TRULY DARK OR EVIL WILL SIMPLY COME BACK AND DO IT ALL OVER AGAIN UNTIL THEY GET IT RIGHT.
FACT: WE ALL HAVE FREE CHOICE AND WE ALL CHOOSE OUR LIVES, WHO WE WILL BE AND HOW WE WILL DIE. GOD HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH IT, WE MAKE OUR OWN CHOICES IN LIFE.
JOHNNYBIX38 11 months ago
@JOHNNYBIX38 idiot
goodrhoden 9 months ago
@goodrhoden God bless you
JOHNNYBIX38 9 months ago
@JOHNNYBIX38 Easter bunny bless you
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buktomsin 9 months ago
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FACT.... you have no evidence for anything you just said
FACT...... you hold the same delusional view as psychic scam artists like Silvia brown & john Edward
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AnthonyT1978 1 year ago
Harris FTW!!!
jssherrard 1 year ago
Ahhhh....
You, guys on YouTube! You express views that make me believe we CAN get rid of religion and live together in peace after all! That the next generation will be smart enough to trash all divisive myths!
Thank you all!
AgentTheGreat 1 year ago
i like this guys!!!
juandeldiablo696 1 year ago
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There's also a mental disorder called Narcissistic personality disorder. A lot of Atheists seem to suffer from this far to often. I think you guys should take some advice from Penn Jilette, he at least has enough decency to respect people who do have opposing opinions.
homelesspoet 1 year ago
@homelesspoet
Right. Mental disorder. Excuse me while I LMAO.
I'll be just as concerned by your diagnosis of my "mental disorder" (you do broadly indict atheists), as I fear the "hell" to which you condem my everlasting soul.
Pardon me once more while I again LMAO.
Now fuck off dickwad. You bore me.
dfarmer1584 1 year ago 25
@dfarmer1584 my point proven, you are literally oozing arrogance. I never condemned anyone.
homelesspoet 1 year ago
@dfarmer1584 HAHA lmfao you totally nailed that guy. Great comment! On this note i heard something the other day: "Atheist fundamentalists are a problem" - WTF?!??!!?
jaylias 10 months ago
@homelesspoet It's not just a difference of opinions. Theists basically believe a crazy idea just because it's an old idea. Theists completely disregard the possibility that people two thousand years ago could make a book that says things that aren't true.
A crazy conspiracy theorist's opinion that alien, reptillian, shapeshifters came here and disguised themselves as political figures is just as valid as a theists opinion that god exists. Neither have any proof of it being true. Both are crazy.
ninjajesus81 1 year ago
@ninjajesus81 so i"m crazy because I believe in a Creator, but it's ok for someone to believe that our existence came out of a random accident, it's like saying you can put a bunch of metal into a blender and pull out a watch. Also a what about atheists that are now saying that we were placed here by the process of panspermia? are they nut jobs too? Sorry but it would take more faith to believe we evolved from amoeba. even if i was an atheists i would have problems with evolution.
homelesspoet 1 year ago
@homelesspoet No, the idea is crazy. You're not necessarily crazy because you believe it. The idea isn't looked at as crazy because it's so widespread and has been around so long. But it's no more valid than the belief that Silver Surfer created the universe. Neither ideas have any proof that they're true.
ninjajesus81 1 year ago
@ninjajesus81The title they dont like to quote "On the Origin of Species by Means of Natural Selection, or the Preservation of Favoured Races in the Struggle for Life" --Charles Darwin
That book has lead to nazism, eugenics, etc etc. thats what i would call crazy
homelesspoet 1 year ago
@homelesspoet The title who doesn't like to quote? Do you know what the title means? Here's a quote from Wikipedia. "Here the term "races" is used as an alternative for "varieties" and does not carry the modern connotation of human races—the first use in the book refers to "the several races, for instance, of the cabbage" and proceeds to a discussion of "the hereditary varieties or races of our domestic animals and plants"."
ninjajesus81 1 year ago
@ninjajesus81 I'm sorry but Darwin at one point in his early life was very bigoted, he was an elitist and he was friends with bigots who really bought into evolution because it gave credence to their racism( Aldous Huxley) they even married close kin to preserve their bloodlines, cause they though they were superior. And I'm suppose to think this guy is the authority on the origins og life, sorry but I dont buy it.
homelesspoet 1 year ago
@homelesspoet So Darwin and Huxley were friends? How is that possible when Darwin died before Huxley was even born?
You have any proof of what you say? People commonly married their first cousins back then.
I gave a passage that says your interpretation of the book's title is wrong. You have any counter-evidence?
Darwin isn't the authority of the origins of life. Evolution doesn't even explain the origins of life. I don't think you have any idea what you're talking about.
ninjajesus81 1 year ago
@ninjajesus81 sorry I did get that wrong, I was thinking of someone else. Huxley was heavily influenced by Darwin. Sorry I had some names mixed up. You are right, he is not the only authority on evolution but evolution has it's basis in the writing of a very racist man, so that to me is questionable. I mean the guy actually states that Africans and Aborigines occupy a sub-species between white caucasians and baboons. If thats not racist then I dont know what is.
homelesspoet 1 year ago
@homelesspoet Even if Darwin was racist, which I don't think he was, what does that have to do with the validity of evolution?
ninjajesus81 1 year ago
@homelesspoet "...evolution has it's basis in the writing of a very racist man, so that to me is questionable." Oh? Why? Newton was a nasty guy; it's irrelevant to his great discoveries. And WHICH very racist man? Darwin? (head meets desk)
1) Evolution was known before his birth;
2) He went against opinion (Christian!) of the time insisting that Africans were NOT inferior to whites. Read his book on the voyage of The Beagle & his letters; he was ANTI-racism, ANTI-slavery
queenastilon 1 year ago
@homelesspoet ""That book has lead to nazism, eugenics, etc etc." You have nothing to back up those assertions.
Darwin's work was banned under the Nazis, and all writings referring to it; burned with other forbidden books. Hitler stated in Mein Kampf that new species do not arise; only small changes are possible & anything else is an affront to God. Darwin was explicitly anti-eugenics.
I suggest that you research for yourself instead of going around ignorantly repeating deliberate lies.
queenastilon 1 year ago
@homelesspoet "I'm sorry but Darwin at one point in his early life was very bigoted..." Huh? He may have been more christian in early life, but apart from that..?
What others may have thought or proposed based on his work has *zero* bearing on the truth of natural selection theory.
"I'm suppose to think this guy is the authority on the origins og life" Nope, but it would be cool if you would just *think*!
Evolution was an established fact before Darwin was born. He just worked out *how*.
queenastilon 1 year ago
@homelesspoet The only reason the full title is not generally used is ignorance & the fact that it's long & clumsy for most, just as people refer to books Alice in Wonderland (Alice's Adventures in Wonderland) & Alice Through the Looking Glass (Through the Looking Glass and What Alice Found There).
"Favoured races" is not about ethnicity in humans, as you would know if you'd bothered to read some of the book or research that title at all. Intellectual laziness spreads ignorance
queenastilon 1 year ago
@homelesspoet Your watch analogy doesn't work because life didn't automatically start as complex as a watch. It starts very simple then gets more and more complex through trial and error. If you put metal in a blender, you can't expect a watch, but you may get a simple shape of metal that's stuck together when you pull it out. It's more complex than when you first put the metal in the blender.
ninjajesus81 1 year ago
@ninjajesus81 I beg to differ, "the simple cell", as Darwin liked to call it lol, is more complex than a watch anyway, just do some research on the functions of a single cell. So yeah evolution is basically sating what I said about the watch.
homelesspoet 1 year ago
@homelesspoet If I look up the functions of a single cell, I'm going to find the functions of a MODERN cell, right? Do you think evolution argues that this MODERN cell sprang into existence as complex as it is today?
ninjajesus81 1 year ago
@homelesspoet Never heard of panspermia, but I looked it up and it doesn't sound crazy at all. So maybe simple life was on an asteroid and when it landed on earth, it started evolving. I don't think anyone says they know for sure that's what happened, but they're probably just proposing that as a possibility.
If you don't know how evolution works, it's easy to say you don't believe it. If you don't know algebra, you'd probably not believe that .999... = 1
ninjajesus81 1 year ago
@homelesspoet There's more proof of evolution than proof of just about any other theory. No creature has ever been found that defies evolution. Through their knowledge of evolution, people have even predicted the existence of animals that hadn't even been discovered yet.
To not believe in evolution is to just be deliberately stubborn.
ninjajesus81 1 year ago
@homelesspoet "...even if I was an atheists i would have problems with evolution" No, you wouldn't. A few weeks studying would clear up most of your questions (not re the origin of life, another subject).
If you were an atheist your intellect wouldn't be hampered by having had your head filled with lies, in this case particularly re Darwin, that you then go around repeating.
Doesn't that bother you? Get angry with those lying to you! They're making you look foolish.
queenastilon 1 year ago
@homelesspoet "I think you guys should take some advice from Penn Jilette, he at least has enough decency to respect people who do have opposing opinions."
You mean Penn "the bible is BULLSHIT!" Jilette? I respect people by default until they do or say something to lose my respect; & then it only goes in degrees. But like Penn Jilette, I don't respect others' *beliefs* when I strongly disagree with them. Anyone who claims to do so is, like so many religious leaders, a hypocrite.
queenastilon 1 year ago
@homelesspoet It's pretty hard to have respect for people who believe in fairy tales which come from the bronze age.
MrTruthAddict 1 year ago
@MrTruthAddict of course when you are arrogant and go out of your way to insult people and their beliefs, I'd say you do find it rather hard to respect people.
homelesspoet 1 year ago
@homelesspoet your beliefs are an insult to our intelligence. Yours included. Fairy tale believers are deserving of ridicule and your tactic of playing victim and demanding respect while you insult those who use logic and reason. We won't tolerate people who are pushing us towards armageddon with your silly belief system.
MrTruthAddict 1 year ago 5
@MrTruthAddict Trust me I don't feel like a victim, just don't understand why atheists are so hostile toward people who believe in supernatural things. I honestly think that atheists spend more time thinking about the Christian faith more than christians do, why is that? I don't believe that Jason Vorhees exists, so i dont spend a lot of time worrying about him and you want see bookshelves full of books that i have written explaining why he doesn't exists.
homelesspoet 1 year ago
@homelesspoet This will explain it much better than I can here...listen carefully to the entire thing... watch?v=5b1aIuoCq4w
MrTruthAddict 1 year ago
@homelesspoet
"I honestly think that atheists spend more time thinking about the Christian faith more than Christians do, why is that?"
That's because faith has an enormous influence on billions of lives, and not in a good way. If you can bring me one other *human* cause having such devastating effect on humanity, I promise, as people trying to fight bad ideas around the world, we will assign half of our atheist resources to it!
AgentTheGreat 1 year ago
@MrTruthAddict If you don't believe in God, then why is he such a threat to you?
homelesspoet 1 year ago
@homelesspoet watch?v=5b1aIuoCq4w
MrTruthAddict 1 year ago
@homelesspoet imaginary father figures in the sky are no ones threat. It is the HUMANS that follow the religious BS that are the threat, pushing their ignorant views unto the logical free thinkers out there.
weareallanimals78 1 year ago
@MrTruthAddict I'm more logical and have more reason than any atheist, and that's because I'm a lot more knowledgeable on various things that atheists know nothing about. I get so fed up with people who know nothing, constantly acting is if their ignorant views are reasonable and true, and those who don't agree are unreasonable and an insult. If there were room here, I'd stick you with a huge pile of pointed questions that would make you look like a fool and show you to be the insult to humans.
Elhardt 1 year ago
@Elhardt
I can only assume you're trying to say that you're not an Atheist and that you believe in a theological "God".
Logic - •the branch of philosophy that analyzes inference
if you take a nice look at the reasoning behind the Bible, Koran, and any other "Holy Book" it's written by a man. Considering new semi-religions or cults appear everyday, you can easily use your outstanding reasoning to piece together that it's false along with these other "Religions" or cults.
Phaze252 1 year ago
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Assaultpredator 1 year ago
@homelesspoet How does it feel to be the town jester, demanding respect for being the town jester?
MrTruthAddict 9 months ago
@homelesspoet I have plenty of respect for ppl with religious beliefs,my parents believe in a personal diety. But they are very clear about what they do and dont believe. The west boro baptistchurch are also clear about what they believe, they believe in the bible. I do not respect beliefs that allow ppl to b violently intolerant of others and I believe most atheists would agree w me when I say we're tired of seeing perfectly good people turned into nuts because behavior supported in the bible
tamu77095 5 months ago
@homelesspoet why don't you shut the hell up and at leasst have the balls to admit that the bible has some less than civilized behavior that NEEDS revision. I capitalize need because I doubt you're going to bother to take the seriousness and danger of religious belief into account. You ppl that r unwilling to see what religion does to the world have a disorder. Its very easy to fix and its called stupidity. You can still b religious and b a critic of it. That is actually more convincing
tamu77095 5 months ago
@tamu77095 i get a kick out of you atheists lol
homelesspoet 5 months ago
@homelesspoet likewise. it's incredible how seriously people are willing to believe in Santa Claus because their parents forced them too when they were children. Not Santa Claus, i mean jesus.. no no... i mean allah...no no... i mean thor.
tamu77095 5 months ago 2
@homelesspoet This is just.....another fail. I'm atheist, I'm narcissist so what? That's no illness it's called high selfsteem. Something you don't have.
RichtoffenRoach 4 months ago
@homelesspoet To be fair, I've always really admired Penn's approach to this.
jadegecko 4 months ago
@jadegecko Wow a voice of reason, I appreciate your comment!
homelesspoet 3 months ago
harris is a very hate filled and intolerent man. A man who fears the truth.
darkfur35 1 year ago
If this is a part of the American educational system I'd rather stay in my 3rd world country. How can this go on over there? It's like a cult for goodness sakes!
This is childhood indoctrination in it's most vile unadulterated form. Disgusting.
AgentRiot13 1 year ago
@AgentRiot13 harris is trying to indoctrinate children to his point of view and that is disgusting. Harris is developing a cult with no ethics.
darkfur35 1 year ago
@darkfur35
Actually he is trying to educate people who are ignorant of understanding religion. i find it amusing that people waste so much time here arguing who is moral and who is not when the most immoral acts occur by religious zealots! Yes, that includes satanists. Car bombings, Jihad, Crusades and midevil torture on non-christians, intolerance of women, killing in the name of god, destroying secular or religiously different cultures, genocide, etc. How is his view disgusting? Seriously?
didgedude1 1 year ago
@darkfur35 This is hilarious. You are aware that Harris is releasing a book about secular morality in November right?
Bunny456 1 year ago
@Bunny456 There is no such thing as secular morality.
darkfur35 1 year ago
@darkfur35 The legal systems of pretty much every modern society on this planet are secular moral codes. Try invoking God in the court room. See how far you get.
Bunny456 1 year ago
@Bunny456 The moral and legal codes of every society is based on the religion in the area.
darkfur35 1 year ago
@darkfur35 Is there anything about the US legal system that requires me to believe in an invisible supreme being? Religions may have a few good ideas about ethics and morality, but none of them require nonsensical superstitious beliefs.
Bunny456 1 year ago
@darkfur35 yawn.
Laudrengen 1 year ago
@darkfur35 What truth would that be?
badtrunk456 1 year ago
I only saw the BR logo thumbnail and am assuming something. Just in case so you know. Bad Religion has never been intolerant of religion. The logo is not to be taken literally. It was made for punks to be worn on a t-shirt or patch and piss people off.
A2Z83 1 year ago
The pics are great! LOL!
prophetofpeace2010 1 year ago
If you don't admit the truth to yourself, I'll do it for you: "This is the verdict: Light has come into the world, but men loved darkness instead of light because their deeds were evil. Anyone who does evil hates the light and will not come into the light, lest his deeds be exposed. But whoever lives by the Truth comes into the light so that it may be seen plainly that what he has done has been done through God." -John 3: 19
Wicked man can not tolerate the thought of judgment for sin.
blattt188 1 year ago
@blattt188
He who believes this is an ass-tard..
Paul1;1
badtrunk456 1 year ago
People use their supposed "hate for religion" as a means to openly attack the God of the Bible on a personal level: the only God whom they know is a judge of sin. Man hates God because he can't be god.
blattt188 1 year ago
my mum believes in god jesus and heaven, doesn't go to church or anything. i see no point in ruining that for her, she thinks her dead friends are in heaven she thinks jesus watches over me.... she also believes in astrology that i dont mind arguing with her about that
honkyxadonis 1 year ago
So everyone can believe whatever they want as long as it lines up with your worldview? Sam Harris,....give me a break!
sphereofinfluence247 1 year ago
@sphereofinfluence247 no your missing the point, best explained by example..... if a group of people are arguing about wether or not we should do stem cell research, and one guy says 'im a biologist, i have evidence to suggest that even a 5 day old feutus feels pain' another says 'im a neurologist, it is not real pain that they feel' then another guy says 'my bible tells me that the feutus has a soul, we cant do stem cell research' ... harris is suggesting that we ignore the last guys view
honkyxadonis 1 year ago
umm, i have listen to 5 of your vidoes and every time u mention that christian are lunitics and arnt in our right minds... could you please have an argument on wheather or not Jesus is who He says He because if you really don't look into it you are allegedly as dogmatic as us christians
Bycoon 1 year ago
Education > Religion
MarvelsofaLifetime 1 year ago 2
Harris mentions something I have often considered: What would an adult who has never heard of god or religion think if someone came to his door and told him about it. We are desensitized to it because we have been hearing about it our whole lives. I saw an interesting video called "christian missionary deconverted by tribe" about a missionary who went to pester some Africans who had no concept of god. It was great: they deconverted him!
jimbrown257 1 year ago 2
@jimbrown257 "What would an adult who has never heard of god or religion think if someone came to his door and told him about it. "
I think ethnologists have written about this.
I remember watching some documentary about Papua New Guinea, where some guys who'd been proseltysed-at in the forest were frankly baffled by the Xian mind-body-afterlife concept; it seemed ridiculous & unlikely, but got consideration - cos the white guys appeared wealthy, powerful, authoritative & knowledgeable.
dunnonuffink 1 year ago
@dunnonuffink
You should check out that video I mentioned "Chrisitan Missionary Deconverted by Tribe".
jimbrown257 1 year ago
@jimbrown257
Thanks, Jim - I did, as soon as I left this vid the other day. Wow!!!!!!!!!.
My first encounter with Christianity was sitting at a "table" of tiny school desks, teacher & kids cutting-out & colouring etc - glue, glitter & poster-paint. On the table a book, a pastel-misty picture of a man nailed to a plank. Horizontal, I assumed.) I'd never suspected such things were possible, but it had to be deliberate. Cue Twilight Zone fear-creep: no-one was bothered or paid it any mind at all!
dunnonuffink 1 year ago
@jimbrown257
As a child raised to age 5 in happy ignorance of anything religious (pre-TV days) I was as nonplussed by "the bible" as I still am by Icelandic creation-myths & sagas: half the time you're asking yourself "Why on earth...?" The most basic plots are just incomprehensible. Why would anyone living in a largely egalitarian kin-group in a vast, bountiful forest "get" the first thing about Moses? All the taking orders, running around in distant forests making strangers unhappy - why??
dunnonuffink 1 year ago
@dunnonuffink
I was taken to church as a kid and they tried to feed me the bible foolishness but, from the first time hearing about it, I rejected it; I remember sitting in church thinking it was like something out of The Twilight Zone (though I didn't know about the TZ then) because it was so crazy that all the adults could believe such obviously made-up nonsense.
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lambpower99 1 year ago
I agree with and enjoy Mr. Harris often. But it would not be schizophrenia and he shows in this clip his further lack of understanding in the psycho-social field. By his terms we would then make definitions for what "thinking good" is, apart from the statistical norms and more verifiable criteria of a population. We aren't that smart yet. Laymen should not act as professionals determining sanity or diagnosing a genetic mental disorder in line with delusional thought
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For the time will come when people will not put up with sound doctrine. Instead, to suit their own desires, they will gather around them a great number of teachers to say what their itching ears want to hear.
2 Timothy 4:3
ROBBBLOCO 1 year ago
paganism normal and abrahimic religions abnormal?? is that the take home message? there is only 1 truth and by science we will discover it
reaperq88 2 years ago
Christianity: The belief that a Jewish Zombie who was his own father can make you live forever
if you symbolically eat his flesh and telepathically tell him you accept him as your master
so he can remove an evil force from your soul that is present in humanity because a rib-woman
was convinced by a talking snake to eat from a magical tree. Yea..
StinkyGreenBud 2 years ago 15
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Sam Harris and atheism: irrelevant
oran6es 2 years ago
true to that..
reaperq88 2 years ago
hahahahahaahaha ill light my blunt to that one!
dont you love rationality? its so easy to completely destroy religion, all you have to do is explain what it truly is
tonymontana1996 2 years ago
@StinkyGreenBud where you there???
mjw9363 1 year ago
@mjw9363
.... on a page of intellectuals, you sir, FAIL.
Hopefully you already realize your mistake..
Assaultpredator 1 year ago
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accusations of insanity were launched towards the early jews, christians and muslims. by whom??? the ancient pagans
athiesm is the new paganism. nothing true or special about it
reaperq88 2 years ago
reason is what Sam Harris promotes. Reason. Never in any society did a civilization be TOO REASONABLE and then things went amuck. lol yeah..ohhh man you guys are just too reasonable....too much reason for me....
maddtappin 1 year ago 9
@maddtappin
( we came from no where and are going nowhere) thats the athiest bottom line. there is a lot of human foul play and interference in religion, no question about that. there is no reason in athiesm. SAM HARRis is trying to find one, he will never find it in materialism
reaperq88 1 year ago
again Sam has said over and over again atheism is a word with no content. ie. you're an atheist when it comes to Thor being God. And saying Sam wont find reason, is assuming he seeking it. He's not he uses reason.
maddtappin 1 year ago
the ur looking for is skeptic (agnistic or something like it). there are ultimate truths waiting to be explored, with science and logic (morality) we will be able to understand them
reaperq88 1 year ago
sure, i'll buy that...i like that Sams call yourself a Humanist or Secular...sometimes saying you're Non-Theist...
maddtappin 1 year ago
There is no doubt that society is far better off if it's citizens behave morally. If the church wants to administer moral teachings, that's fine. Unfortunately, they take the stance that fear of hell is the best way to tatoo this on our brains. I would prefer an honest approach. Without the claims of knowing the will of god. State simply, what is best for mankind, a common goal of happiness and security
toelesshoe 2 years ago
In a time when you cannot look down the street without seeing some immoral or disgusting act, how can you argue against the one institution that attempts to teach morality? I am a Presbyterian, we focus more on bettering ourselves, to lead a better life, to expect more of ourselves. Schools do not teach respect for our fellow man and parents are too lazy to do it. Thank God for the one institution that will take on the responsibility, even in the face of ridicule.
jts1187 2 years ago
@jts1187, most of the immoral and disgusting acts I witness are committed by christians. The catholics I know personally, and have known, all to varying degrees cheat, lie, steal and invent & spread malicious gossip. Ok, you're not catholic, & my CofE neighbours are a little better but not much. I am an atheist. *I* don't do any of those things.
In the countries in the West that have the most atheists you get the best moral behaviour.
(...cont'd)
queenastilon 2 years ago
(cont'd) Those with highest rates of christians have the very worst problems from immorality (USA scores very badly).
I'm talking about highest rates of unwanted teenage pregnancies, STDs, children in care, murders & other violent crimes, %age of population in prison, etc. The USA is the biggest consumer of pornography on this planet.
So, if churches are trying to teach morality they are obviously failing miserably.
Its. Not. WORKING.
queenastilon 2 years ago
1 Poorer communities tend to be more religious and less educated too so it`s not just about religion, it`s a number of factors.
2 What`s wrong with porn?
paolo27th 1 year ago
paolo27, it may well be a chicken & egg problem (does religion cause ignorance, poverty and social ills or just do really well when those things are already around?).
What's wrong with porn? I'm not sure, to be honest. Some people (I mean mostly women) in the industry are not in it out of completely free choice. Something tells me it's not a Good Thing to spend a lot of time on sexual fantasies, esp.if you need a constant supply of new pics/vids to keep that going. Maybe.
queenastilon 1 year ago
@queenastilon I often wonder if religion causes stupidity or if the stupid gravitate towards religion. While I think it is a combination of both, I think religion causes stupidity more than vice versa. The reason for this is the charts that show the average IQ within the states. The states that are more religious for cultural reasons always have lower IQs. If stupidity caused religion, it shouldn't be localized like that.
jimbrown257 1 year ago 2
@jimbrown257 Well stupidity may not be exactly the same as ignorance but religion does promote ignorance by pretending to have all the answers. Religious people stop wanting to learn things when they think they already have all the answers. Also religion conditions the mind to not think for yourself but rather just accept what they tell you to think. A mind like that may have a harder time dealing with an IQ test
Nails077 1 year ago 2
@Nails077
They hate critical thinking. Don McLeroy, the fundie who was in charge of the recent rewriting of Texas text books fiassco, and a YEC, said one of the things he wanted to de-emphasize was all "the critical thinking goobledy-gook" (his words).
jimbrown257 1 year ago
@jimbrown257 Of course they hate critical thinking, and probably fear it. Critical thinkers are capable of exposing the lies that make up the foundations of their institutions. They made a crime out of pointing out where their scriptures contradicted reality for this very reason.
Nails077 1 year ago
If god damns all unbaptized children, even those who never even hear about god, then... what a douche!
And if only those who hear about christianity and reject it go to hell, and missionaries are going out and giving thousands the chance to reject god and go to hell, then... what douches!
And if people think the unbaptized good people still get to go to "limbo", which was invented by Christians in the Middle ages (after people thought "wait that sucks that can't be right")... well you know...
BboyVIRTUE 2 years ago 6
An all loving god...right?
Xeper9911 2 years ago
@BboyVIRTUE
Actually, the Catholic clergy recently had a conference where the decided limbo didn't really exist. The pope's quote was hilarious: "Limbo has never been more than a hypothesis."
You know, unlike the other stuff which is well supported fact, lol!
jimbrown257 1 year ago 10
6/9 = 2/3.
I would not classify 2/3 of the supreme court as lunatics.
Au contraire, Sammy. You, despite your podcast, are still the outcast.
Elvis lives !
oran6es 2 years ago
good point....
reaperq88 2 years ago
I noticed that Bad Religion logo at 2:18. Best band ever.
HANK0000 2 years ago
When almost everyone is crazy, the sane people stick out as appearing unusual.
MrSonicAdvance 2 years ago 8
Bone chips and fragments are far more in the way of proof than your side has - which is NOTHING but "faith" another way of saying I will not be confused with facts. Put that in your kool-aid glass and drink it - oh I see you already have been hitting the jug for awhile......time for an intervention and long rehab stint if you are to be saved.
sheema56 2 years ago 2
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oran6es 2 years ago
religious people are fucking mad period..
they love fighting and war
and they hate different people ..i will undoctrinate my kids from your perverted religious crap
ArtistEnrique 2 years ago 14
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Here's a good one: What's Catholic, intelligent, non schizophrenic, and powerful ?
6 or your 9 US supreme court justices.
Guess the joke's on you.
Have a great day.
oran6es 2 years ago
You're a moron. He's not saying religious people are uneducated retards.
In fact he's saying just the opposite...
Religion is only allowed to live on because it's so indoctrinated in our society. You can't criticize it without being viewed negatively. So people are allowed to believe it without any criticism. And basically it's wrong to ever wholey believe something without thinking about it. That's why you have your essays "peer reviewed". Checks and balances - religion has none. Ergo, wrong.
loopyloopss 2 years ago 7
Well demographically speaking, in the US, high concentrations of religious people are statistically correlated with high concentrations of inbred, uneducated retards. But even more than that, I think it's perfectly justified to call even the educated ones retards because, as the guest said, we are highly and rudely discriminatory as a nation toward other unsupported claims. The religious must stop comparing race discrimination to deprecation of unfounded beliefs.
BboyVIRTUE 2 years ago 2
Joke:
A Christian sees someone about to jump off a bridge, and decides to stop them. "Wait! before you jump, can I ask if you're a Christian." "Yes I am."
"Are you Catholic, Anglican, Episcopalian or Presbyterian?"
Uh, Presbyterian"
Okay, are you Free Church ,Church of Scotland, or Associated Presbyterian?"
"Church of Scotland...?"
"Good, now are you from the UP or UF tradition?"
"UP."
"Die, heretic scum!"
flankspeed 2 years ago 9
You forgot "Then he pushes him off the bridge"
GoblinXXX 2 years ago 7
No need; suicide or not, they're going to hell anyway....!
flankspeed 2 years ago
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wat a reatard
tylorlauer1 2 years ago
tylorlauer1 - If you insist on calling someone a "retard" you might consider learning how to spell the word.
How much paint do you huff on a regular basis champ? You sound brain damaged.
untamedgorilla 2 years ago 4
I agree with this its true. I give this video a 10
koolguy1472 2 years ago 4
We need many more people speaking out again the false tolerance that religion builds around itself. We need to break that spell! Thanks.
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jesusonlyalways 2 years ago
someone who finally makes sence. i'm religious and even I agree with this
Calebmoyer 2 years ago 5
I look forward to the end of faith.
the end of gibbering fools praying for armegeddon so heeby jesus can make his return fucking frightening !
ridicule is what it deserves get these fools out of office !
freezatron 2 years ago 9
Conversational intolerance towards religion... great idea.
dougmanjones 2 years ago 11
speaker is derek arugeo
lemonheartfly 3 years ago
The sight of those young kids at the jesus camp makes my blood boil. Kids should not be exposed to their parents religious delusions until they are 18 years old; but preferably never.
greyhall1 3 years ago 45
Well said, its awful watching them brain-washing children. Just awful.
hoadmaback 3 years ago 28
@hoadmaback Why is it so awful? you satanists rule the rest of the world. turn on public broadcasting & all you see is death & sinful wickedness as a means of entertainment for kids. you rule the media which is the ultimate brainwashing tactic, but it angers you to see kids learning about righteousness & morality? could you be any more backwards? atheism is forced on us in school but damned we don't fall for your satanic religion, huh?
blattt188 1 year ago
@blattt188
I don't think stoning women who lost their virginity is righteous or moral. The problem with the referring back to the bible is that it doesn't change (not anymore since the printing press). However, society has moved on to a different type of morality. Today, women losing their virginity before marriage isn't bad anymore, but having sex with 10 year olds is paedophilia, which use to be acceptable at the biblical times.
KayleLang 1 year ago
@blattt188 "you satanists rule the rest of the world." Huh? Satanism is religious; atheists are not. "...all you see is death & sinful wickedness as a means of entertainment for kids" as opposed to the good old days when good christians took the kids on happy outings to view real public torture & taught them to yell joyously as those falsely denounced as witches (by christians) screamed for mercy for hours while very slowly roasted to death? ...or to lynchings, taking home a keepsake ear?
queenastilon 1 year ago
@blattt188 "...it angers you to see kids learning about righteousness & morality?" It angers rational people to see kids' heads being filled with superstition
"atheism is forced on us in school..." HUH? No, religion was forced on us in school for a long time, less so in most now. Nowhere is atheism forced! Saying "you don't have to pray if you don't want to" is NOT forcing anything
Atheism a religion? Good grief. Ignorance as bad as yours should be illegal; it's certainly a sin.
queenastilon 1 year ago
Jesus Camp is a crazy documentary
patrickallain 3 years ago 4
It's an awesome documentary about a crazy camp. Run by a fat crazed up manipulative child abuser (mentally at least, we've all seen them cry). Those people should be fixed to fit society in a normal fashion.
FHomeBrew 3 years ago 10
greyhall1 - It's disgraceful; I couldn't agree more.
Can you imagine telling an innocent young child that her playmates at school who sing different songs and read a different book on Sundays (or who wisely stay home) are destined for "hell" where they will burn for all eternity?
What could be more perverted and immoral than that?
untamedgorilla 2 years ago 10
I remember once as a child suggesting that my Jewish friend had fallen and gotten hurt because God didn't like him because he was Jewish. My mother seemed surprised at this; I thought it followed pretty logically from the things they taught at church.
a42579 2 years ago 14
Telling them lies instead?
Cathain78 2 years ago
@greyhall1 When you say it makes your blood boil to see Jesus being exposed to these children is like you hate to see these children tought morals and respect for man kind. Jesus and the Holy Bible is the Text Book as to what you should think in this life and how you should conduct yourself in life as to ling, stealing, and cheating others. All Morals comes from Jesus and the Holy Bible. In the yr. 100 AD there was no books on Morals or respect to read.
turtle4aire 1 year ago
@turtle4aire
teaching kids morals and respect for man kind? where is that in the bible, cause I must have missed it between all the genocide, gang rape, baby killing, animal sacrifice, incest and murder.
TheHomelessCripple 1 year ago 4
@TheHomelessCripple
You must have missed it; there is a brief passage between the gang rape and animal sacrifice. It's small and open to interpretation but it's there: And god sayeth to David "C'mon, be a guy!"
But keep in mind that, like all god's commandments, it only applies to men of the same color, religion, denomination, sect and political leanings. You don't want to go overboard with the love and respect.
jimbrown257 1 year ago
@jimbrown257 "... like all god's commandments, it only applies to men of the same color, religion, denomination, sect and political leanings." Exactly!
Love thy neighbour means love they neighbour, not the differently-thinking, other-god-worshipping, foreign-looking types way over there 10 miles away.
Interesting about religious states having lower IQs; didn't know that. But stupidity/ignorance certainly predisposes one to believe bs.
queenastilon 1 year ago
@turtle4aire
You know that's not true; there were books from the Greeks, Indians and others that had moral and philosophical teaching that the NT drew from. There is very little original philosophy in the NT.
However, to use the NT as a moral guide (if you can't figure out for yourself not to be a dick) is a good thing. However, too many "christians" find that stuff is secondary to blind and unwavering belief that Jesus is god/his son.
jimbrown257 1 year ago 2
I have yet to receive a civil reaction from anyone when I say that I am a Christian. I've been discriminated against far more for my beliefs than I've ever discriminated against others.
"I'm a Christian"
"HOW DARE YOU FORCE YOUR BELIEFS ON US!!"
I'm constantly labeled as being intolerant...I've never EVER ridiculed anyone for their beliefs...But I have been ridiculed countless times. Again, and again, and again, simply for what I am. Nothing more. Just simply being what I am.
Senjutsu777 3 years ago
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punchdrunkatheist 3 years ago 7
well man the christian religion is huge! if you call yourself christian, people will think of not only the catholic christians, but also the mennonites and all of those cults that fall under christianity. People see christians as intolerant becasue a lot of christians ARE. Theres so many christians that do force their beliefs on others. Many catholics try to raise their kids to be god fearing, and have complete faith in the church. Every christain religion discourages free thought.
dresdog 3 years ago 7
Boo fucking hoo! Wait till I get out my violin. You honestly expect anyone to believe that when you say: "I'm a Christian"... the immendiate response is very frequently: "HOW DARE YOU FORCE YOUR BELIEFS ON US!!"
Your sooo full of shit I can nearly smell it!
ndjm00 3 years ago
ndjm00 - It wasn't so long ago that admitting the truth (that there is zero evidence to support belief in Christianity or any supernatural creator) could very well mean torture and death at the hands of the "faithful" mob. No, it's not often that Christians are confronted with reason... that is what the speaker is urging an end to. Either you weren't paying attention or you're simply not smart enough to get it.
untamedgorilla 2 years ago 2
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I wrote that comment 3 months ago. I dont have a notion who I wrote it in response to so I can't reallty put yours into context.... but how fucking sad re you!!! HAHA!
ndjm00 2 years ago
Yes but if you aren't ridiculing other people's beliefs, then according to the bible you're not doing it right. You're supposed to look down on gays, supposed to think black people are black because their forefather was cursed, supposed to not allow people missing part of their penis to approach the altar (Deut). If you're at all moral, you're supposed to be violently intolerant of your atheist friends' beliefs, because what could be more immoral than not saving your friends' souls?
BboyVIRTUE 2 years ago
He makes a very valid argument; Tell a conservative Christian man that his wife is cheating on him, or that frozen yogurt will be a cure-all for any disease. He would call you crazy and demand evidence as proof of your claim. Tell him that a cracker will "literally" transform into the body of Jesus. He will believe superstition and myths from an ancient book with no demand for evidence or criticism.
tooprettytopay 3 years ago 3
There's absolutely no biblical basis that a cracker will turn into flesh or that wine will turn into blood. Communion is a time of personal reflection where Christians remember what Jesus did for us. "eating" his flesh and "drinking" is blood is a -metaphor- that we are alive in Christ because he died for us.
A literal interpretation of communion is an invented ritual of the Catholic church.
Senjutsu777 3 years ago