Boycott Israeli Apartheid - TIAA CREF Denver Flashmob

[tranarchy000]

my response to some of the violent threats i have gotten from zionists on this comment thread bit (dot) ly (slash) zFWm9I (sorry, i guess it wont let you post URLs on here)

[360dupont]

These people should know there making a fool out of themselves. And there wrong.

[DrHijabi]

Good for you! Free Palestine <3

[Sabraguy]

Oh dear. How embarrassing. Don't these idiots realise people are laughing at them?

[Knock1225]

look at that transgender freak, where would that freak have a better time,in Israel or any Arab country

o Yea, and Israel is Jewish land, it is not stolen like all these Americans who are squatting in the Native American land, Jews have been in "Palestine" for 3,000 years

[FlotillaCrew]

WHY NOT BOYCOTT ISRAELS BIGGEST INDUSTRY? DIAMONDS!

[MrBietarZona]

lets say it like this. if the "palestines" will see them dressed like this they will end with a rock in the had.

[UnderclasSum41]

Do you even know what the word Aparthied means? Because you use it so many times and I still can't relate it to Israel. All you know is to shout sayings you hear in the media without knowing what they really means. And it's really hard for me to believe that you boycott Israel, since so much of technology, medicens are from Israel. The Israeli inventions are so deep in everyhing today that it's impossible to boycott Israel without living like the first man in Stone Age

[jacoby841]

HI Europe is already in deep financial crisis thousands of jobless ppl and you keep boycotting its good for us in India we get more start up in our country

[rachelgolem]

Laughing when Syrian people kill each other is NOT Anti-Semitism.

[hawkman672]

GOD BLESS TIAA CREF HELL WITH THE PALETINES ARE TERRORIST LIKE THE UNITED STATES GIVEN THE CHANCE THEY WILL BOMB THE UNITED STATES......

[Dharani26]

They should have also mentioned Starbucks in the protest too. There will be justice and freedom for Palestine! Zionist will warm the dock of the World Court yet.

[emwatcher]

@arcz10 is obviously a troll trying to discredit BDS.

Great video and action; thanks to ProudYid for clarifying the queer position in favour of human rights.

[arcz10]

@emwatcher please dont comment if you have difficulties with comprehension.

[pekhambanerjee]

@arcz10plz dont comment widout knowing the facts.u know nothing the arabs had a gr8 tactic they are use to do stupid act to make zionists excite , thereby using the civilians as human shields , knowing well they might be killed in the israeli response, as there is no other way to stop the acts.And then they use the dead bodies as a propaganda tool , screaming the zionists are doing them genocide.

Now , what kind of genocide is it when the palestinians from 1 million in 1948 are now 10 millions?

[arcz10]

@pekhambanerjee go back to ganesha and leave the Ibrahamic faiths to debate among themselves.

[pekhambanerjee]

@arcz10 dont u think these r similar topic there in india pakisthan try to creat problems and say there are a lot prob btw hindus and muslims in india,while here in israel the arab us to creat artificial problems and use to show lot probs are there btw zionists and muslims and i am not surprice to found ur comment over here ,rather i am now sure that u r a problem created by the muslim comulalist and use u like a instrument .

[pekhambanerjee]

@arcz10 i told u b4 ,dnot try to prove urself a master of all ,coz it is impossible i know after reciving my first msg u r going to send something like that ,thus to make it clear, i send my second msg about this topic,i am not saying that the jews r the one 2 live there and not the israeli muslims,all israeli have the right to stay in their own land ,my nature of study lets me to avoid all these irrational words,i was talking abt that the conspiracy of arab,they have no rigth to craet prob.

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[arcz10]

@pekhambanerjee Jews were always foreign to the land, they cam from Egypt, remember the EXODUS.

Ilan Pappe, Norman Finklestein, Alan Hart, Noam Chomsky, Jimmy Carter, ALBERT EINSTEIN, Bertrand Russsel,

Go educate yourself rather than having an orgasum by posting trouble making shit..

[pekhambanerjee]

@arcz10 else all israeli citizenship holder who love their israel have the right to stay there and try to mentain peace,and do not let arab to creat problems and if anybody help arab in their evil work they must die.

[pekhambanerjee]

@arcz10 n what do u mean by foreign elements,if i am not wrong then u r a citizen of indian peninsula,and u r a muslim and not a tribal ,so u me we all are foreign element bcoz the people of indus valley are no more,the muslims and the present hindus are not the original trib of the land some tribal in the land are almost in its extinct...so for their sack we must leave that land which we think our own land and love it tomuch,i know u too love ur land a lot.so r u going to leave ur mother land?

[pekhambanerjee]

@arcz10 dont u have any work to do than blaming tha non muslim?

[jfestinga]

However, if you are still so violently opposed to israel, then i would suggest boycotting everything made in israel. that means throw away your cell phones, computers, a lot of medication, usb hard drives (those little ones) and your paypal account (which wouldnt realy matter because you wouldnt have a computer)

[millerjg0]

@jfestinga

The BDS movement does not oppose Israel--only Israel's occupation and continuing theft of Palestinian lands. how can there be two states if one is still stealing the land from the other? until the occupation ends, there will be no peace. the boycott focuses on businesses profiting from the occupation--e.g. businesses based in Israeli settlements in the West Bank.

[jfestinga]

all that i think you could realy say about this, is that these people (in the video have no idea what they are talking about and are clearly only looking at the subject from one side of the problem.

If I were you guys, i would take a step back and look at all the information on the subject, including all the attacks on israel from palestine before the wall went up.

[tranarchy000]

(oops: correction, NARTH wants to argue that homosexuality is a "disease" that can be "cured", not "illegal".)

[tranarchy000]

@ ProudYid

justify a violent and brutal military occupation.

in the mean time, the BDS movement has brought increased publicity and mobilizing to queer palestinian groups-- particularly Palestinian Queers for BDS, which has been working directly with Omar Barghouti (a figurehead in the BDS movement) and they are working together to bring the first queer delegation to Palestine soon.

[tranarchy000]

@ ProudYid

(pt 3) that wants to argue that homosexuality is illegal?

the reality that queer palestinians on the ground are faced with is that it is VERY HARD to start any kind of queer organizing when you are faced with a brutal military occupation that has you locked into an open-air prison.

if you actually want to do something to support queer palestinians, then end the occupation. but you obviously dont. all you care about is exploiting the suffering of queer palestinians in order to

[tranarchy000]

@ ProudYid

(pt2) over the queerphobia that exists in israel. what about the israeli who murdered a bunch of people in an LGBT center in tel aviv a few years ago? israel convienently glosses over that inconvieniant fact when trying to put forward the idea that israel is some sort of gay-friendly haven in the middle east.

or maybe we can talk about b'nai brith, which likes to make the same argument, claiming that "gay rights" = supporting israel... when they have close ties with NARTH, a group

[tranarchy000]

@ProudYid

first of all, i am transgender and do not identify as a "boy", so fuck you for making assumptions. second of all, yes, queerphobia exists in palestine, and it exists in israel as well. and queer palestinian groups have spoken up LOUDLY, supporting the BDS movement and saying that the single biggest obstacle to queer liberation in palestine is the BDS movement. no, palestinian society is not perfect. but when zionists such as yourself make arguements like that, you completely

[eligottlieb]

At 1:09 you can see one of the BDS protesters holding a sign saying, "Victory to Palestine". It really shows how much they're a non-partisan movement solely out to achieve equal human-rights for all, or rather, how they're no such thing at all.

[nasri1011]

@eligottlieb

If you think Victory to Palestine is against human rights and equality and so on.

then you are clearly indoctrinated to see things in an 'interesting' way.

[eligottlieb]

@nasri1011 How in hell is it "indoctrinated to see things in an 'interesting' way" when one believes that peace is a better end to a war than one side triumphing over the other?

[nasri1011]

@eligottlieb

Victory to Palestine means the Palestine will win their right to self determination and statehood but most importantly to live with equal rights in the west bank and Gaza.

that's is what most of boycott movement is about they will stop the boycott when Palestine are given equal rights. that why they call it Apartheid.

that is peace.

you interpret Victory to Palestine as death and loss to Israel. hence you view things in an 'interesting' way.

[eligottlieb]

@nasri1011 Tell me, nasri my friend, what is it you think about the so-called "right of return" and what do you think the BDS movement's position on that is?  The movement's position is that the "right of return" exists and is absolute, which means sacrificing the Jews' self-determination on the altar of "Victory to Palestine". That is what they are protesting for, not equality but domination, only the other way around again.

What do you think of this?

[nasri1011]

@eligottlieb

why are you changing the subject?

BDS movement's position is varied its not just one group you know. sure some say that but mostly they say whatever the Palestinians agree too they will accept. things are not that black and white.

do you really believe if there was a viable Palestinian state. (and some refugees were allowed back and other given compensation like agreed in the Taba negotiations by both sides.)

then the boycott movement will still go on? of course it wont.

[eligottlieb]

@nasri1011 Unfortunately, yes, the boycott movement would go on. Their heads are quite thoroughly enough buried in sand that they continue to view anything less than the total victory of the Palestinian nationalist movement over Zionism as "apartheid". Go look up the views of their leader, Omar Barghouti (who fights "Israeli apartheid" by getting his Master's degree at Tel-Aviv University), if you don't believe me.

It's really not a united group? News to me.

[nasri1011]

@eligottlieb

don't know him hes not the leader. boycott started before him.

no movement is ever untied you always have factions and dissent.

in the anti war movement people argue about how to stop war. but they have the same general aim of stopping the war. why would it be different here.

the boycott Israel movement that i know. focuses on goods from the illegal settlements and arms to Israel in fact arms to the whole region, and the world as a whole.

i don't see a problem with that.

[palmtree4588]

this is the saddest thing I have ever seen

[ProudYid]

Is this meant to be satire? I would like to see what people would do to that tall boy george look alike if he went to Gaza city dressed like that.

[snaarlgard]

ROFL! You do realise that Intel, Microsoft and Google all operate from Israel, don't you? And that Google owns Youtube? So why are you putting your boycott vid on Youtube?

[tsafanyoh]

By operate from Israel, I presume you mean 'have offices in Israel'? Because all 3 companies are based in the USA.

But as for the video itself.... these idiots really dont know the first thing about the Middle East.. they should all just go back to Wallmart.

[snaarlgard]

@tsafanyoh Exaclty. If they want to do their silly dance outside banks that invest in Israel, why is Google etc. any different? They should boycott ALL companies that invest in Israel, not forgetting all the mobile phone companies (a lot of the technology comes from Israel) and all the drugs that were created in Israel.

[mooninquirer]

@snaarlgard There is another protest song against Motorola using Lady Gaga's "Telephone"

[mooninquirer]

@snaarlgard It is good that Israel knows about this anyway. And there are many Jews in Israel who are against the wall, but I am not sure if they approve of a boycott of Israel. However, Haaretz, a very liberal newspaper in Israel ( check it out online ), published an article in which it foresees a dark future for Israel if the UN recognizes Palestine, and Israel will become like South Africa. But this newspaper worries that Netanyahu is never going to go along with any peace treaty.

[tranarchy000]

@mooninquirer yes, there are many jews in israel who support the BDS movement. (check out boycott from within: boycottisrael.info) but, being as israel has just made it ILLEGAL to support that movement, many of them are risking their lives and their safety to speak out in support of tat movement. and yes, there are many queer and trans folks who are part of boycott from within, as well as the global BDS movement.

[hawkman672]

@tranarchy000

[millerjg0]

Beautiful and inspiring! Educational and fun. Love the song and dance - so clever! Seems like TIAA-CREF, investing teachers' pensions, with its forward-looking programs for its employees, would welcome the opportunity to take their money out of businesses that kill people on the other side of the world.

[WorkingAgainstWalls]

Good job!  TIAA CREF: Isn't it a no-brainer? Teachers help educate kids all their lives, should their money be invested in companies that profit form the occupation? Did you know Israel makes education a crime in the west bank? Closing schools and universities? Did you know Israel bombed schools and universities to rubble in Gaza? Teachers, wake up, ask TIAA CREF to stop investing in occupation! Apartheid is a crime!

[kirby4d]

@WorkingAgainstWalls Did you know that you have no idea what you are talking about and none of what you said in this comment is factual?

[snaarlgard]

@WorkingAgainstWalls "No-brainer" is right. Unfortunately the no-brainer is YOU! Education is not only encouraged by Israel in the West Bank, we actually PAY for it! Are YOU aware that 20% of Israelis are Arabs who don't want to give up their Israeli citizenship and have said very clearly they do NOT want to be Palestinian? Are you aware that the PA have barred their citizens from working for Israeli companies, thus depriving their own people of an income? Do you have ANY clue?

[elenaketzal]

thanks, you guys!!!! that was great!!!!!!-elena