Proper continuity of events = +1 point. Good use of Tolkien's dialogue = +1 point. Reliance on source material = +1 point. Making the Witch King of Angmar sound like Commander Cobra = -3 points.
Actually...I enjoy this Witch King. Between its hollow, mechanical voice, and its stark difference from the rest of Middle-Earth, it suggests that it is, in fact, a lost piece of magical technology that was recharged, if you will, by the stirring of Sauron. Perhaps all magic of Middle-Earth is highly advanced...magitechnology, down to the ring and the staff of Gandalf.
Personally I think Peter Jackson did a better job of capturing the feel of the fight. Plus nothing was more epic when she pulled off her helm and said "I am no man!" and smote the Witch King. Plus I liked the fact Peter Jackson's version was a not musical! Plus the movie did not need a narrator. Which is what this movie suffers from.
they made this like a bad scooby doo cartoon ,i wish the 1st director was given the means to finish what he started ,,they did a bad job of the 2nd half of the books
@reksub10 Yep, totally agree man, this shit sucks, Ralph Bakshi's LOTR was far better than this hannah-barbera style cheap crap with songs and all that childish stuff...puaggghhh.....i'll spit 10 times for each dislike this crap gets!!!!!
@mrksuckerberg ralph bakshi ,thats the directors name right enough cheers for reminding me ,,,,the sound effect of eowyn's sword hitting the witch kings dragon was pityfull ,,not to mention the voices .......and did you hear the words to some of the songs ?"where theres a whip theres a way"? i couldnt watch this is was bull compared to the 1st half ..all the comments so far have slagged this off ,what where the makers thinking.al least R.Bakshi didnt trod all over tolkiens work
This is a pretty accurate portrayal of the Witch King,,with an invisible head with a crown on top and two floating disembodied red eyes as his only visible features. But while the text clearly says that it has a "metallic voice", I don't think that Starscream voice quite conveys the sense of being undead, Still,close enough.
@SardaukarPrime Yeah, not only did he have the disembodied eyes, but he had a metallic voice because if I remember correctly, it said, "His voice sounded 'metallic' because it the sound of his voice reverberated throughout his empty crown." or something like that.
I liked the Witch King in the other animated movie, which was like the combination of the Fellowship of the Ring and The Two Towers. However, the Eowyn in this movie is far prettier than the Ewoyn in the other animated movie. It's like night and day difference.
You know, for a second there I thought the Witch King was a pretty intimidating villain, what with the black armor and floating crown and evil-looking red lights. Then he talked.
See, the Jackson version still seems more concise and dramatic. In this it's "No man can harm me!" "I'm no man, I'm Eowin!" "Gasp, it's Eowin!, she was forbidden from riding with us!"
And this all happens BEFORE the battle, so the battle seems almost fait accompli. In Jackson's version, the reveal comes after the battle and it has more dramatic impact, and we learn everything we need to know in fewer redundant lines. "But, no man can harm me" "I'm no man" boom, done.
Take this animation, which portrays the Witch King far more visually accurate to the Tolkien books, and put the voice of the of the one from Peter Jackson's version over it, and it would be perfect.
OK...replace this lame-ass Witch King and voices with the ones fro Peter Jackson's LOTR, and you've got the most perfect fn scene ever put to cartoon cell.
THAT VOICE THO! I just can't..he sounds like a robotic Skeletor.
technical aspects/2D animation/CGI aspects aside, I personally liked the character design of the Witch King in the newer series better, he was more menacing...take Disney's the Black Cauldron, done 5 years later, not so great of a movie, and was a total flop, but the villain, the Horned King was pretty creepy, the Witch King here is just kinda "ehh..."
Do you people think that the audiences viewing the Fellowship would have understood the language from the books? Tolkien was a professor in English, imagine the difficulty in understanding the language in the films.
its funny how everybody trashes these movies. jacksons versions were better? yea thats because jacksons versions came out a quarter of a century later with a lot of new technology when it comes to storytelling. its so sad to realize that everyone posting here hasnt read any of tolkiens works except me and yet you all seem to be expert critics. these old cartoons did the best they could for their time and actually used more lines directly from the books than the new movies did.
I love Eowyn, one of my favorite characters from the books. Jackson's interpretation is okay, B-, but I can't believe he left out " . . and if you touch him, I will smite you.". Surely one of the most classic lines in fantasy literature.
And as someone who actually does like the books, I honestly don't care much for the animated movies. I did like animated adaptation of The Hobbit though.
Also, I just can't take the Witch King seriously when he sounds like Skeletor.
the movies (though really good) could have been a lot better had jackson not butchered many many small details. this scene in the movie eowyn appears scared and weak, the dialog is HORRIBLE, and action too drawn out. here in this 1980 animated version she is brave and unflinching in the face of evil and the scene plays out much better. women everywhere should be pissed off at what jackson did to eowyn in this scene. he denied us a fine moment of a great character.
peter jackson left out huge bits of dialogue that was necessary, made several battles into one big one, and made them mostly spectacle, and made some lines said by some people, namely one said by Gandalf, as he was a prophet of sorts and knew vaguely the future, and gave it to Aragorn, good choice, but wrong idea, he didnt push through with the spirit of man, Gandalf knew through cunning and being a freaking wizard, and where did the comeback line go? there was so much missing
Peter Jackson did a mostly admirable job of making the film. But the language in this part is more interesting in the original than in the Jackson film.
Whether not you likes Peter Jackson's version the Books will always stand out as the best. You can not (I repeat) can not put every detail from a book into a movie. Also something you can write in a book does not always translate well to film. From watching the deleted scenes Jackson tried his best to include everything but the time frame for the movie would not allow it
Peter Jackson's version looked much better. It was more darker and it looked much better. The witch king looked like the devil himself instead of some wierd shit. The orcs looked more darker and evil then the hilarious ones here.
@UpTheIronOzzy Theres nothing demon like about either witch king and what do you mean by "weird shit"? This version of the witch king is more faithful to what a nazgul is, a spirit, in robes, not living magical armor. The orcs weren't dark, they were just larger, dumber, and lacked personality.
@Visser0x ??? The Nazgûl was the nine kings of Númenor. Former men! They have bodies, and are dressed in black ROBES... And they were dark sorcerers, DEMON-like. And the orcs? Please... Those orcs must have raising the morale of Gondor's and Rohan's men. The PJ orcs looked more like the forces of the dark lord. And personality? The orcs were mass-produced! And they were cannonfodders!! And you have to agree that PJ's version looks better and actors looks more Tolkien the cartoon character
@UpTheIronOzzy Invisible bodies, and dark sourcers, but no demon quailities at all, there bodies are still human it just can't be seen. Those orcs were much smarter and had two throats, doubt the were moral raising. PJ orcs were basiclly green elves with fangs that squilled like pigs, hardly the army of the dark lord. The only tolkien looking character in PJ movies were the elves. the dwarves and the hobbits (especially the hobbits) just look like regular humans.
@Visser0x The PJ orcs were never green... And what the fuck do you mean by smarter? They are just like the PJ orcs. Except that these looks just stupid and are too short and does not look like that they are warriors. The PJ orcs looks kinda scary, fights kinda good and they are fearsome and powerful in numbers. So i don't really see how you can see those orcs as the superior. And soon you i can guess that you say that the PJ Uruk-Hai are fail. Which they are not.
@UpTheIronOzzy PJ orcs were green, but some were other colors. These orcs aren't mindless, blood thirsty savages like PJ, these orcs are reluctant, fear filled, and would turn of sorron if they could . They aren't warriors their monsters and thats what look like monsters. PJ's mythical creatures hardly look mythical compared to the ones in these films.
@Visser0x Okey this conversation looks kinda stupid... Two Tolkien-lovers fights over minor differences? But i stand for that the PJ version looks more awesome. Period!
@Visser0x Oh sh*t. Sorry. I just read that the Nazgûls physical form disappeared after time. But still, The Witch King wore his helm over his robes. And the only visible armor was their gloves and boots. And everything evil in PJ's movies looked way more evil than in the series.
I'm gonna say Peter Jackson was pretty close to the book, cinematically adapted. Seriously, that's too much dialogue for a movie that needs to be kept at around 2 hours, what with all the other things they needed to put in and/or lengthen for necessary effect. LOTR was having trouble keeping it short as it is...
whoever decided it'd be funny to make the most badass literary villain EVER into a robot is being tortured repeatedly everyday in Hell for this treachery, a treachery for which there is no word in Elvish, Entish or the Tongues of Man!
@FanJamesMarsters Eh, dude, I hate to break it to you. That wasn't meant to be funny. That's why it's so particularly pathetic. That was meant in all seriousness.
@flamehands21 Are you refering to the witch king? because the witch king's body is invisble, but is still there, or are you talking about the felbeast, her sword hit it on the neck but we couldn't see the felbeast when she swung her sword.
Note to Novuso, watch the end of the animated Two Towers. Movies always get things wrong, and the newer Lord of the Rings was done in such a manner that even an audience with no knowledge of LOTR would understand the continuity of the plot. Add this type of speech? You'd alienate nearly every person who would potentially go and see the movie. It's great for a book, not so much for a 21st Century film.
as much as those Rankin Bass movies were accurate to the book, they lack atmosphere and those songs, are so out of place, and the animation was plain horrible. Bakshi in the other hand, added alot of atmosphere in the film, which in m opinion is ages better than these, and most people say that RK took the time to animate stuff, but the use of rotoscoping on his LOTR are an artistic choice, and Bakshi style of animation is really good,but when it comes down to it, the rotoscoping kicked ass.
No, this is a scene from the Rankin and Bass movie of "Return of the King." That company also made a movie of "The Hobbit." Their work is better than Ralph Bakshi's.
Peter Jackson didn't butcher the story you asshole, he made the books into movies. They're two different mediums and they need to be treated as such. Your ignorance is pathetic.
@rcameronswindsor Can't say I agree with your willing acceptance of Tolkein gold being turned into crap by PJ. I mean c'mon, even this animated mess is closer in letter and spirit to LOTR than all of PJ's movies put together AND it has better acting, which isn't saying much. Just because it's a movie version of the books doesn't excuse PJ's messing up the story with his multiple and baffling changes, most of which I think were born more from sheer laziness than a desire to deliver good movies.
@rcameronswindsor He might not have butchered it but he did change events around, remove certain characters, and even remove some events entirely. Examples, the beacons were lit in the book well before Gandalf and Pippin got to the city, Imrahil was not even introduced nor were any of the people that came to defend the city, and the Scouring of the Shire never took place.
@rcameronswindsor Exactly, a lot of this dialogue is completely worthless in a visual medium like film. It's just telling the audience crap they already know and it's better off cut out and truncated where possible. Honestly, if Jackson had tried to be excessively faithful to the books, his movies would have been piss poor. Fellowship probably would have bombed critically and commercially. Post-production on Two Towers would have ceased, and we would never have seen the rest of the trilogy.
You know, this scene might have been more moving...if Theoden's death hadn't happened several scenes before this fight. Or if the Nazgul didn't sound like Skeletor. Or...or...never mind. There are too many levels of wrong to list them all here.
Jackson's effects were better, but in terms of language this is better, so combine the language of this version with the effects of Jackson's movie and we have a perfect movie.
LOL at the video description talking about a "proper continuity of events" in a clip that has Pippin inexplicably on Plennor Fields bullshitting with Merry while Eowyn does her thing. Hey Pippin, shouldn't you be saving Faramir right now?
Proper continuity of events = +1 point. Good use of Tolkien's dialogue = +1 point. Reliance on source material = +1 point. Making the Witch King of Angmar sound like Commander Cobra = -3 points.
ExpertGamer951 1 day ago
Skeletor?
Rolle66666 1 day ago
Holy crap, this is awful.
hawanja 2 days ago
Do they ever explain why the swords don't make contact and instead make zappy lights/noises, other than to keep it kid-friendly?
DeltaKilo3 2 days ago 2
Actually...I enjoy this Witch King. Between its hollow, mechanical voice, and its stark difference from the rest of Middle-Earth, it suggests that it is, in fact, a lost piece of magical technology that was recharged, if you will, by the stirring of Sauron. Perhaps all magic of Middle-Earth is highly advanced...magitechnology, down to the ring and the staff of Gandalf.
And flame war in three, two, one...
DetectiveSpratt 2 days ago
why did they not include Legolas and Gimli in this version?
MikeGMinc 3 days ago
I'LL GET YOU HE-MAN
Simetra666 4 days ago
EXTERRRRRMINATE!
dervine7 4 days ago
what is this monty pyton?
TheRyano4ever 4 days ago
Nice going!!! Showed that you don't need to be a guy to beat the impossible
kevinsharpe97 6 days ago
"Ha! She disguised as a knight and she came hither!"
VenomProject 6 days ago
In my opinion, this version sucked AND the Bakshi version sucked.
ITzHaZzA666 1 week ago
Personally I think Peter Jackson did a better job of capturing the feel of the fight. Plus nothing was more epic when she pulled off her helm and said "I am no man!" and smote the Witch King. Plus I liked the fact Peter Jackson's version was a not musical! Plus the movie did not need a narrator. Which is what this movie suffers from.
trisdragon 1 week ago
COME NOT BETWEEN SKELETOR AND HIS PREY!
drcoolcabbage 1 week ago
1.Orcs look like a pile of shit
2.The Witch king kinda sounds like Mysterio from the PS1 Spiderman
3.Ohh dear lord what did they do to the hobbits >_<
Illier1 1 week ago
guys
guys...
this is fucking weird
TJkiwiOWEG 1 week ago
1:10 Shaggy?
darthmarshy619 1 week ago
@darthmarshy619 - Yep, Casey Kasem
frameraid 1 week ago
I'm glad to know the guy who voiced the Daleks found some extra work.
coreylewismusic 1 week ago
3PO-king to Eowyn:
"Come not between a protocol droid and his pray..."
mrksuckerberg 2 weeks ago 4
these are scooby doo villian voices
scottsscotty 2 weeks ago
They loved using Paul Frees as many of the voices of different characters in both The Hobbit and The Return of the King.
GaryFP54 2 weeks ago
How did they not know she was a woman, she had breast bumbs and glittery eyes.
NeoNanoRetard 2 weeks ago
they made this like a bad scooby doo cartoon ,i wish the 1st director was given the means to finish what he started ,,they did a bad job of the 2nd half of the books
reksub10 2 weeks ago
@reksub10 Yep, totally agree man, this shit sucks, Ralph Bakshi's LOTR was far better than this hannah-barbera style cheap crap with songs and all that childish stuff...puaggghhh.....i'll spit 10 times for each dislike this crap gets!!!!!
mrksuckerberg 2 weeks ago
@mrksuckerberg ralph bakshi ,thats the directors name right enough cheers for reminding me ,,,,the sound effect of eowyn's sword hitting the witch kings dragon was pityfull ,,not to mention the voices .......and did you hear the words to some of the songs ?"where theres a whip theres a way"? i couldnt watch this is was bull compared to the 1st half ..all the comments so far have slagged this off ,what where the makers thinking.al least R.Bakshi didnt trod all over tolkiens work
reksub10 1 week ago
lmao that was terrible
Kyuunin 2 weeks ago
WHAT THE FUCK IS A ROBOT VOICING THE WITCH KING FOR
BabmerChan 2 weeks ago
"Come not between the nice cow and his prey!"
plop262 2 weeks ago
Skeletor? What are you doing in Middle Earth!?
berserkur19 2 weeks ago
1:24 A foul and putrid wind? I guess the witch-king stopped at Taco Bell before he took to the field.
On a serious note, why does his voice sound so familiar?
ronin6401 2 weeks ago
okay by the time he started talking all I heard was: "I am.... THE MONARCH!!!!"
threatcon1 2 weeks ago
This is a pretty accurate portrayal of the Witch King,,with an invisible head with a crown on top and two floating disembodied red eyes as his only visible features. But while the text clearly says that it has a "metallic voice", I don't think that Starscream voice quite conveys the sense of being undead, Still,close enough.
SardaukarPrime 2 weeks ago
@SardaukarPrime Yeah, not only did he have the disembodied eyes, but he had a metallic voice because if I remember correctly, it said, "His voice sounded 'metallic' because it the sound of his voice reverberated throughout his empty crown." or something like that.
ShadowBlaide 2 weeks ago
I liked the Witch King in the other animated movie, which was like the combination of the Fellowship of the Ring and The Two Towers. However, the Eowyn in this movie is far prettier than the Ewoyn in the other animated movie. It's like night and day difference.
ShadowBlaide 2 weeks ago
whoever posted this video has no right to bash peter jackson for improving Lord of the Rings
BlightsBiohazard 2 weeks ago
Witch-King: *about to kill eyowen*
Pippin... or Merry.... wait... yea its pippin I think: NOOOO! *stab*
Witch-King: AGH! GAY!
Eyowen: *slash*
Witch-King: ASS WIPE!
*movie becomes a PC monitor and scroll out, you see the witch King playing a video game as himself*
Witch-King: IF THAT WERE REAL I WOULD HAVE KICKED HER ASS! FUCK THIS SHIT *Smashes computer monitor with flail*
Mangaman1100 2 weeks ago
I know "carrion" means "waste" or "putrid flesh", but what does "dwimmerlake" mean?
08skydancer 2 weeks ago
Starscream+Skeletor+Ganon=This....thing.
spacegoat4ever 2 weeks ago 3
The witch king reminds me of skeletor
Rosenkreuz00 2 weeks ago
You know, for a second there I thought the Witch King was a pretty intimidating villain, what with the black armor and floating crown and evil-looking red lights. Then he talked.
lemonade1531 2 weeks ago 50
@lemonade1531 lol ikr, I felt the same way XD
Mangaman1100 2 weeks ago
@lemonade1531 i know he soubds like mysterio from spider man lol
Blazethebest3 4 days ago
HE SOUNDS LIKE AN EVEN MORE ANNOYING VERSION OF STARSCREAM!
ATY9Productions 3 weeks ago
The Witch King sounds like Ganon from the Zelda cartoons.
Baddum12 3 weeks ago
Man when I was little I watched this movie every other day! One the days in beetween I watched the hobbit!
MrBagginsEsq 3 weeks ago
came hither old english is funny
jjjac213 3 weeks ago
See, the Jackson version still seems more concise and dramatic. In this it's "No man can harm me!" "I'm no man, I'm Eowin!" "Gasp, it's Eowin!, she was forbidden from riding with us!"
And this all happens BEFORE the battle, so the battle seems almost fait accompli. In Jackson's version, the reveal comes after the battle and it has more dramatic impact, and we learn everything we need to know in fewer redundant lines. "But, no man can harm me" "I'm no man" boom, done.
Nightingale2814 3 weeks ago
Take this animation, which portrays the Witch King far more visually accurate to the Tolkien books, and put the voice of the of the one from Peter Jackson's version over it, and it would be perfect.
Nowhereman10 3 weeks ago
The Witch-King is a motherfucking Dalek!!! =O
MrLePov 3 weeks ago
@MrLePov lol
twilightzoneseinfeld 3 weeks ago
@MrLePov i agree dalek or transformer
np02058 3 weeks ago
OMG the witch king is a robot!!!
Vorrutyer 3 weeks ago
This is by far the worst scene in all of LOTR. Women like this do not exist outside of fiction.
Razlo5000 3 weeks ago
The Witch King sounds like an effeminate robot. The fuck?
Muffinzeshlongun 3 weeks ago
Damn! This Eowyn is ridiculously more badass than any other, film or radio series.
witanowski 3 weeks ago
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Saw the animated films before the PJ Trilogy. Didn't think very highly of them then, and nor do I now.
inmyazuredreams 3 weeks ago
Goddamn Skeletor!
betsydeath 3 weeks ago
It's not a decapitation if he doesn't have a head.
NICKREAPER316 3 weeks ago
Eowyn here is better than the PJ movies, but the witch king is much better in the PJ films.
GameBeard 3 weeks ago
sad when your a girl has a deeper voice than you
TheSirDestroyer 3 weeks ago
0:27 ...and the Witch-King's menace is instantly deflated.
TheBermudaMan 3 weeks ago 25
OK...replace this lame-ass Witch King and voices with the ones fro Peter Jackson's LOTR, and you've got the most perfect fn scene ever put to cartoon cell.
invicta1313 4 weeks ago
THAT VOICE THO! I just can't..he sounds like a robotic Skeletor.
technical aspects/2D animation/CGI aspects aside, I personally liked the character design of the Witch King in the newer series better, he was more menacing...take Disney's the Black Cauldron, done 5 years later, not so great of a movie, and was a total flop, but the villain, the Horned King was pretty creepy, the Witch King here is just kinda "ehh..."
Chickengirl005 1 month ago 2
Do you people think that the audiences viewing the Fellowship would have understood the language from the books? Tolkien was a professor in English, imagine the difficulty in understanding the language in the films.
Syrath101 1 month ago
The Witch King sounds like Starscream in G1
tsisor 1 month ago
there u have it,the witch king is a badass robot......noone believed me.........
TheMrArtie 1 month ago
its funny how everybody trashes these movies. jacksons versions were better? yea thats because jacksons versions came out a quarter of a century later with a lot of new technology when it comes to storytelling. its so sad to realize that everyone posting here hasnt read any of tolkiens works except me and yet you all seem to be expert critics. these old cartoons did the best they could for their time and actually used more lines directly from the books than the new movies did.
vinnieknish 1 month ago 2
@vinnieknish There are alot of parts in these animated films I like alot better than the PJ movies, trust me.
bryal 4 weeks ago
@vinnieknish agreed, totaly
nightnoia 3 weeks ago
Sounds look a scooby doo character.
traxincron373 1 month ago
sees him, wow the animated version is better than the movie
hears him, never mind...
yaklin104 1 month ago
Jackson's version is better, simple as that.
spas16 1 month ago
MEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE XD
14wulfgar88 1 month ago
hinder ME???????????
123121s1 1 month ago
I love Eowyn, one of my favorite characters from the books. Jackson's interpretation is okay, B-, but I can't believe he left out " . . and if you touch him, I will smite you.". Surely one of the most classic lines in fantasy literature.
LegalizeTheDope 1 month ago
Has nothing on Peter Jackson. Sorry, but Jackson hit it on the nose for interpretation
temp54 1 month ago
no matter how good the dialogue or story flow of this film are, the animation is fucking terrible
blackstonewielder19 1 month ago 2
And as someone who actually does like the books, I honestly don't care much for the animated movies. I did like animated adaptation of The Hobbit though.
Also, I just can't take the Witch King seriously when he sounds like Skeletor.
evilemperordude 1 month ago
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evilemperordude 1 month ago
By Grabthars hammer I have avenged thee!
MysticPotato68 1 month ago
Is it just me, or does he sound kind of like a dalek?
TARaskelt 1 month ago
the sound effects, really?....................
frYZkYY 1 month ago
the movies (though really good) could have been a lot better had jackson not butchered many many small details. this scene in the movie eowyn appears scared and weak, the dialog is HORRIBLE, and action too drawn out. here in this 1980 animated version she is brave and unflinching in the face of evil and the scene plays out much better. women everywhere should be pissed off at what jackson did to eowyn in this scene. he denied us a fine moment of a great character.
s0meguy0001 1 month ago
peter jackson left out huge bits of dialogue that was necessary, made several battles into one big one, and made them mostly spectacle, and made some lines said by some people, namely one said by Gandalf, as he was a prophet of sorts and knew vaguely the future, and gave it to Aragorn, good choice, but wrong idea, he didnt push through with the spirit of man, Gandalf knew through cunning and being a freaking wizard, and where did the comeback line go? there was so much missing
Leviticus89 1 month ago
Peter Jackson did a mostly admirable job of making the film. But the language in this part is more interesting in the original than in the Jackson film.
Pfisiar22 1 month ago
yo this sucks the hoppits look like retarts and wtf is wit dat sword is she zelda or something shooting lasers out her sword wtf lmao
RobTG 1 month ago
Whether not you likes Peter Jackson's version the Books will always stand out as the best. You can not (I repeat) can not put every detail from a book into a movie. Also something you can write in a book does not always translate well to film. From watching the deleted scenes Jackson tried his best to include everything but the time frame for the movie would not allow it
davismw2000 1 month ago
This is a lot more how I imagined it. Without the crazy voices though.
wilgus28 1 month ago
Peter Jackson owned this. If you honestly think this is better, you need to take off your nostalgia goggles.
NuclearSalvation 1 month ago
@NuclearSalvation Or maybe you need to take off your "OMG FLASHY EFFECTS" goggles
I also saw this move AFTER PJ's version and I still think its better.
Visser0x 1 month ago
Starscream just got way more bad ass.
AMVslowking 1 month ago
Peter Jackson's version looked much better. It was more darker and it looked much better. The witch king looked like the devil himself instead of some wierd shit. The orcs looked more darker and evil then the hilarious ones here.
UpTheIronOzzy 1 month ago
@UpTheIronOzzy Theres nothing demon like about either witch king and what do you mean by "weird shit"? This version of the witch king is more faithful to what a nazgul is, a spirit, in robes, not living magical armor. The orcs weren't dark, they were just larger, dumber, and lacked personality.
Visser0x 1 month ago
@Visser0x ??? The Nazgûl was the nine kings of Númenor. Former men! They have bodies, and are dressed in black ROBES... And they were dark sorcerers, DEMON-like. And the orcs? Please... Those orcs must have raising the morale of Gondor's and Rohan's men. The PJ orcs looked more like the forces of the dark lord. And personality? The orcs were mass-produced! And they were cannonfodders!! And you have to agree that PJ's version looks better and actors looks more Tolkien the cartoon character
UpTheIronOzzy 1 month ago
@UpTheIronOzzy Invisible bodies, and dark sourcers, but no demon quailities at all, there bodies are still human it just can't be seen. Those orcs were much smarter and had two throats, doubt the were moral raising. PJ orcs were basiclly green elves with fangs that squilled like pigs, hardly the army of the dark lord. The only tolkien looking character in PJ movies were the elves. the dwarves and the hobbits (especially the hobbits) just look like regular humans.
Visser0x 1 month ago
@Visser0x The PJ orcs were never green... And what the fuck do you mean by smarter? They are just like the PJ orcs. Except that these looks just stupid and are too short and does not look like that they are warriors. The PJ orcs looks kinda scary, fights kinda good and they are fearsome and powerful in numbers. So i don't really see how you can see those orcs as the superior. And soon you i can guess that you say that the PJ Uruk-Hai are fail. Which they are not.
UpTheIronOzzy 1 month ago
@UpTheIronOzzy PJ orcs were green, but some were other colors. These orcs aren't mindless, blood thirsty savages like PJ, these orcs are reluctant, fear filled, and would turn of sorron if they could . They aren't warriors their monsters and thats what look like monsters. PJ's mythical creatures hardly look mythical compared to the ones in these films.
Visser0x 1 month ago
@Visser0x Okey this conversation looks kinda stupid... Two Tolkien-lovers fights over minor differences? But i stand for that the PJ version looks more awesome. Period!
UpTheIronOzzy 1 month ago
@UpTheIronOzzy It looks more morden
Morden =/= Awesome
PJ made the movie so it would appeal to avarage person, thus dumbing it down.
This version is supior in the fact that it actually looks like somthing from lord of the rings and a generic fantasy action film.
Visser0x 1 month ago
@Visser0x Oh sh*t. Sorry. I just read that the Nazgûls physical form disappeared after time. But still, The Witch King wore his helm over his robes. And the only visible armor was their gloves and boots. And everything evil in PJ's movies looked way more evil than in the series.
UpTheIronOzzy 1 month ago
@UpTheIronOzzy This one looked more super natural.
Visser0x 1 month ago
Well...I think Peter Jackson's Witch King was a little more intimidating, at least his didn't sound like a shitty 70s robot haha
panzertiger2000 1 month ago 2
"Behold the power of my beautiful flowing golden hair! With the power of Revlon, I shall smite you down!"
CinnabonChan 1 month ago
How the hell did all that hair fit in that helmet?
PaulusCunctator 1 month ago
Honestly though, I really like Eowyn's portrayal here. Very manly.
TheAle89515 1 month ago 2
He had come again, turning hope to despair, victory to defeat;
"Be gone foul dwimmerlake, lord of Carrion, leave the dead in peace!"
"Come not between Skeletor and his prey!"
Syrath101 1 month ago 44
@Syrath101 When I read the part about Skeletor, Orange juice shot out my nose. Funny shit!
Cap285 1 month ago
this guy is more like the bitch king. his voice makes me want to hit him
randomovieguy 1 month ago
Holy shit it's Starscream!
Deavi783 1 month ago 2
Peter Jackson's Witch King sounded more epic.
greenxxxable 1 month ago 35
@greenxxxable Whispering is epic?
Visser0x 1 month ago
@Visser0x Oh, I thought he sound reptilian. This sounds like a Transformers character.
greenxxxable 1 month ago
@greenxxxable Not enough voice rattling to be reptilian. this movie came out in 80s that transformers voice would be the popular choice.
Visser0x 1 month ago
@greenxxxable Just a Bit ...
djTwytch 4 weeks ago
Fuck me, I own this on Blu-ray. why am I watching it on YouTube?
letmedownagain 1 month ago
I'm gonna say Peter Jackson was pretty close to the book, cinematically adapted. Seriously, that's too much dialogue for a movie that needs to be kept at around 2 hours, what with all the other things they needed to put in and/or lengthen for necessary effect. LOTR was having trouble keeping it short as it is...
yeeunkim1991 1 month ago
why does the witch king sound like an annoying robot?
gentlemanREX 1 month ago
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donxavier10 1 month ago
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donxavier10 1 month ago
I love the random winds that blow for a second to with only purpose to make capes and hair sway.
Tobbs96 1 month ago
wait...
I thought Pippin was inside Minas Tirith during the battle...
ImAJ00guy 1 month ago
this is fail:D
willoswe 1 month ago
And so, with the help of Shaggy, Eowyn slew Skeletor....
FlamingSpidermonkeys 1 month ago
Who's eowyn?
mason8398 1 month ago
Note to Novuso: Precious dialogue and proper continuity of events are a poor reason to put up with bad voice acting, and weak animation.
simdae1 1 month ago
@simdae1 And awful sound effects.
lazerbeam134 1 month ago
Eowyb".....why is the eye on your chest looking at your crotch?"
angrydead 1 month ago
''But no living man am i! ..plus i have this lightsaberfairylightningawsome sword''
NoobSnoopy 1 month ago 2
"Sauron has yet to reveal his deadliest servant, the one who will lead Mordor's armies in war. The one they say no living man can kill. Skeletor!"
EpsilonRanger 1 month ago
Starcream?!
Hollywoodu360 1 month ago
wtf am i watching :S
yicancu56 1 month ago
he sounds like mysterio, aka the WORST spider man villain ever... not a good choice to base a characters voice off of
UnidentifiedLifeform 1 month ago
@UnidentifiedLifeform It's called a vocorder, dude. Cutting edge technology in the 70's. LOL!
CheshireCatFun 1 month ago
whoever decided it'd be funny to make the most badass literary villain EVER into a robot is being tortured repeatedly everyday in Hell for this treachery, a treachery for which there is no word in Elvish, Entish or the Tongues of Man!
FanJamesMarsters 1 month ago
@FanJamesMarsters Eh, dude, I hate to break it to you. That wasn't meant to be funny. That's why it's so particularly pathetic. That was meant in all seriousness.
CheshireCatFun 1 month ago
her blade didn't even touch it and it wasn't magical
flamehands21 1 month ago
@flamehands21 Are you refering to the witch king? because the witch king's body is invisble, but is still there, or are you talking about the felbeast, her sword hit it on the neck but we couldn't see the felbeast when she swung her sword.
Visser0x 1 month ago
he sounds like a knight who says ni
DaRkNeZz5972 1 month ago
Drugs??
IhasMetal 1 month ago
Apparently the Witch king is related to Skeletor.
AndRod29 1 month ago
How did she get all that hair in the helmet XD
icdetbtbb 1 month ago
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAHAHA!
thealmostjew 1 month ago
No living man shall hinder gollum
Visser0x 2 months ago
The Witch king's voice sound the same voice Of the army of robot soldier's voice from ratchet and clank 3 :D
ltjerryl 2 months ago
Note to Novuso, watch the end of the animated Two Towers. Movies always get things wrong, and the newer Lord of the Rings was done in such a manner that even an audience with no knowledge of LOTR would understand the continuity of the plot. Add this type of speech? You'd alienate nearly every person who would potentially go and see the movie. It's great for a book, not so much for a 21st Century film.
SpartanR41 2 months ago
This is cinematically… pathetic.
Bitters 2 months ago
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@Bitters This movie is great.
Visser0x 2 months ago
as much as those Rankin Bass movies were accurate to the book, they lack atmosphere and those songs, are so out of place, and the animation was plain horrible. Bakshi in the other hand, added alot of atmosphere in the film, which in m opinion is ages better than these, and most people say that RK took the time to animate stuff, but the use of rotoscoping on his LOTR are an artistic choice, and Bakshi style of animation is really good,but when it comes down to it, the rotoscoping kicked ass.
aquelescaraaaaaaaaaa 2 months ago
Wow. first time seeing this. This is Really Awesome!
SabrinaBouvier 2 months ago
0:36 BECAUSE A PIRATE IS FREE
Cokecakepopcorn 2 months ago
So did Bill Cosby inhale some helium before he recorded his lines?
MatchewBAR9 2 months ago
Is this movie anyway related to the crappy animated Lord of the Rings movie?
Melkhiordarkblade 2 months ago
@Melkhiordarkblade
No, this is a scene from the Rankin and Bass movie of "Return of the King." That company also made a movie of "The Hobbit." Their work is better than Ralph Bakshi's.
mollytherealdeal 2 months ago
You are an idiot, Starscream! :P
Vindrel 2 months ago
jesus god this is terrible. Peter Jackson may have butchered the story but at least it was watchable.
ousooners5193 2 months ago
Peter Jackson didn't butcher the story you asshole, he made the books into movies. They're two different mediums and they need to be treated as such. Your ignorance is pathetic.
rcameronswindsor 2 months ago 35
@rcameronswindsor This.
specterkev 2 months ago
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donxavier10 1 month ago
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@rcameronswindsor Can't say I agree with your willing acceptance of Tolkein gold being turned into crap by PJ. I mean c'mon, even this animated mess is closer in letter and spirit to LOTR than all of PJ's movies put together AND it has better acting, which isn't saying much. Just because it's a movie version of the books doesn't excuse PJ's messing up the story with his multiple and baffling changes, most of which I think were born more from sheer laziness than a desire to deliver good movies.
donxavier10 1 month ago
@rcameronswindsor He might not have butchered it but he did change events around, remove certain characters, and even remove some events entirely. Examples, the beacons were lit in the book well before Gandalf and Pippin got to the city, Imrahil was not even introduced nor were any of the people that came to defend the city, and the Scouring of the Shire never took place.
korrde 1 month ago
@rcameronswindsor Exactly, a lot of this dialogue is completely worthless in a visual medium like film. It's just telling the audience crap they already know and it's better off cut out and truncated where possible. Honestly, if Jackson had tried to be excessively faithful to the books, his movies would have been piss poor. Fellowship probably would have bombed critically and commercially. Post-production on Two Towers would have ceased, and we would never have seen the rest of the trilogy.
evilemperordude 1 month ago
why doses the witch king sound like starscream
Maxbun3 2 months ago
This is truly amazing.
ageshero 2 months ago
What is a headless Skeletor, riding Ridley from Metroid, doing fighting She-Ra?
jbohnoff 2 months ago
You know, this scene might have been more moving...if Theoden's death hadn't happened several scenes before this fight. Or if the Nazgul didn't sound like Skeletor. Or...or...never mind. There are too many levels of wrong to list them all here.
freodwyn 2 months ago
Is the Witch King a cyborg?
EuroFascist 2 months ago
Samus vs Ridley?
Blackharp 2 months ago
Theoden forbid 222 people to ride with him.
bellamori 2 months ago
"it's... it's EMPTY!"
Tsukiko330 2 months ago
I couldn't hear anything the witch king says, because I was laughing to hard a this voice. :/
ew275x 2 months ago
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Dispiacere 2 months ago
Jackson's effects were better, but in terms of language this is better, so combine the language of this version with the effects of Jackson's movie and we have a perfect movie.
WallisTylerJ 2 months ago
@WallisTylerJ if Bakshi had done the last half of the 2towers and ROTK, it would kick major assage.
aquelescaraaaaaaaaaa 2 months ago
LOL at the video description talking about a "proper continuity of events" in a clip that has Pippin inexplicably on Plennor Fields bullshitting with Merry while Eowyn does her thing. Hey Pippin, shouldn't you be saving Faramir right now?
zoor90 2 months ago
Always read the fine print.
CrimsonSuperNova 2 months ago
"No living man may hinder me!" cried Skeletor.
vos474747 2 months ago 55
Lol Shaggy was a hobbit
hinik7 2 months ago
3:44 that flag looks like is has a jewish menora on it and the stars represent the flames
AlienHunterAgent117 2 months ago
"Or he will slay thee in turn! FOR COBRA!"
Kiltmaster 2 months ago