good video....but its kinda silly to say MMA is non-existant in China, ...what about "the art of war" ? That organization is growing in China. Even though ive never been to china, I have seen some schools from the internet (usually wing chun, and a few xingyi schools) that really go at it full contact. Personally I think modern wushu and the lack of exposure to other arts really messed up kung fu. Whether you like antonio or not...hes out there ACTUALLY training and sweating. no key board wars
its not silly to say there is almost no MMA in china. china has a very limitted history of grapping, full stop. of martial artists in china probably less than 5% have had any grappling beyond the grappling component of san da or san schau.
art of war is a growing circuit in china but not one-millionth as developed as MMA in Korea, japan, USA or philippines. i do stand by my convention that there are almost no fighting schools in china, apart from the san da academies, which i think are awesome and where i hope to study one day.
Another user was talking about , "Combat Sanshou"...which is a more complete form. But, have you ever heard of "Jing Quan do" ? Its the chinese police martial art. No one has really did a good documentary on that, And there seems to be alot of submissions in it. Combat Sanshou is gonna very hard to find. I hope you can find a place teaching it. Its almost unseen by normal pepole
I agree with you. Grappling in CMA isnt non-existent, but I do agree with you in saying it is very limited. The only ground fighting I have seen in kung fu is "dog boxing", "Snake groundfighting system" and Shuai jiao.....but compared to folk style or bjj...its not as intricate. And thats coming from a kung fu student (but im open minded). I was just saying that, their are a few rare placed that practice kung fu without all the fluff. But, its almost unheard of. U ever gonna go back to china?
Gotta disagree with you about Chinese MMA. Sanda (sanshou), is similar to Sambo in that it has several distinct sub-styles. Competition Sanda is certainly similar to kickboxing (but with some grappling), but military or combat Sanda is pure practical combat, just like combat Sambo vs. competition Sambo. Head over to the mainland sometime. Taiwan is nice, but small, and that geographical smallness is reflected in the mentality as well.
You dont need to insult all taiwanese people because you dont like what i said about a martial art. that's sillyness. for one thing, taiwan is a free and open democracy, so that is a bit better than the system they have in china. but i never intended this as an indictment of china. why do you attack taiwan?
You mistake my meaning kind Monk. I am speaking not of a specific phenomenon of individuals, but rather a larger epiphenomenon that is perfectly understandable considering what was occurring from 1949 until about 1986~90 (Imagine what happens when you try to pour a whole barrel into a bottle) This is not the right place to go into details.
maybe but they have freedom of speech, press, religion, and assembly in taiwan but not in china. so not sure what you are on about. i have lived in both, and also in hong kong and i must say freedom beats communism hands down.
i have trained in the mainland already. i lived in shaolin for three months, training. and didnt find or hear of combat san schau. if you have the contact information for the combat san schau school you trained at in the mainland, please tell me, and i will go there.
Timbo is right as far as sanda goes. THere is a military version that has alot of groundfighting, Qin Na (which comes from eagle claw), weapon defense, ect. But, as far as Taiwan goes....I think Antonio is right. I mean look at his vids. Taiwan MMA which has (taichi,sanda, bjj...ect). Thats very open minded! Just because its a small country doesnt mean alot. Japan is small, but look how advanced they are. Regardless, we are all entitled to our opinions. have respect
Too bad I'm gonna be in Hsinchu, I'd love go and grapple these guys.
Some tips (from a grappler): Unless you've been wrestling since age five or have some extensive wrestling pedigree from high school or college, you're not gonna be able to shoot in for a takedown from punching range. Clinch up first, then go for the takedown.
Wrestling and judo are all about hips and legs, both of them you want under your opponents so you can lift them or knock them over. Look for a grappling school next!
there was a column about this in Blackbelt right? I actually enjoyed reading about Ziyou Bodji never heard of this style before. grazie Antonio
BareseMaledetto 11 months ago
good video....but its kinda silly to say MMA is non-existant in China, ...what about "the art of war" ? That organization is growing in China. Even though ive never been to china, I have seen some schools from the internet (usually wing chun, and a few xingyi schools) that really go at it full contact. Personally I think modern wushu and the lack of exposure to other arts really messed up kung fu. Whether you like antonio or not...hes out there ACTUALLY training and sweating. no key board wars
randyds5 2 years ago
its not silly to say there is almost no MMA in china. china has a very limitted history of grapping, full stop. of martial artists in china probably less than 5% have had any grappling beyond the grappling component of san da or san schau.
brooklynmonk1 2 years ago
art of war is a growing circuit in china but not one-millionth as developed as MMA in Korea, japan, USA or philippines. i do stand by my convention that there are almost no fighting schools in china, apart from the san da academies, which i think are awesome and where i hope to study one day.
brooklynmonk1 2 years ago
Another user was talking about , "Combat Sanshou"...which is a more complete form. But, have you ever heard of "Jing Quan do" ? Its the chinese police martial art. No one has really did a good documentary on that, And there seems to be alot of submissions in it. Combat Sanshou is gonna very hard to find. I hope you can find a place teaching it. Its almost unseen by normal pepole
randyds5 2 years ago
I agree with you. Grappling in CMA isnt non-existent, but I do agree with you in saying it is very limited. The only ground fighting I have seen in kung fu is "dog boxing", "Snake groundfighting system" and Shuai jiao.....but compared to folk style or bjj...its not as intricate. And thats coming from a kung fu student (but im open minded). I was just saying that, their are a few rare placed that practice kung fu without all the fluff. But, its almost unheard of. U ever gonna go back to china?
randyds5 2 years ago
Gotta disagree with you about Chinese MMA. Sanda (sanshou), is similar to Sambo in that it has several distinct sub-styles. Competition Sanda is certainly similar to kickboxing (but with some grappling), but military or combat Sanda is pure practical combat, just like combat Sambo vs. competition Sambo. Head over to the mainland sometime. Taiwan is nice, but small, and that geographical smallness is reflected in the mentality as well.
Timbot2002 2 years ago 3
You dont need to insult all taiwanese people because you dont like what i said about a martial art. that's sillyness. for one thing, taiwan is a free and open democracy, so that is a bit better than the system they have in china. but i never intended this as an indictment of china. why do you attack taiwan?
brooklynmonk1 2 years ago
You mistake my meaning kind Monk. I am speaking not of a specific phenomenon of individuals, but rather a larger epiphenomenon that is perfectly understandable considering what was occurring from 1949 until about 1986~90 (Imagine what happens when you try to pour a whole barrel into a bottle) This is not the right place to go into details.
Timbot2002 2 years ago
maybe but they have freedom of speech, press, religion, and assembly in taiwan but not in china. so not sure what you are on about. i have lived in both, and also in hong kong and i must say freedom beats communism hands down.
brooklynmonk1 2 years ago
i have trained in the mainland already. i lived in shaolin for three months, training. and didnt find or hear of combat san schau. if you have the contact information for the combat san schau school you trained at in the mainland, please tell me, and i will go there.
brooklynmonk1 2 years ago
Timbo is right as far as sanda goes. THere is a military version that has alot of groundfighting, Qin Na (which comes from eagle claw), weapon defense, ect. But, as far as Taiwan goes....I think Antonio is right. I mean look at his vids. Taiwan MMA which has (taichi,sanda, bjj...ect). Thats very open minded! Just because its a small country doesnt mean alot. Japan is small, but look how advanced they are. Regardless, we are all entitled to our opinions. have respect
randyds5 2 years ago
Judo is still intense i have to say
WarrenKeingGaw 2 years ago
Too bad I'm gonna be in Hsinchu, I'd love go and grapple these guys.
Some tips (from a grappler): Unless you've been wrestling since age five or have some extensive wrestling pedigree from high school or college, you're not gonna be able to shoot in for a takedown from punching range. Clinch up first, then go for the takedown.
Wrestling and judo are all about hips and legs, both of them you want under your opponents so you can lift them or knock them over. Look for a grappling school next!
dboyzero 2 years ago
yo i need a private teacher can any one please teach me
DOMINICAPO 2 years ago
I can
darkgreensoldier666 2 years ago
nice good video why but why is there not sanda fighter Taiwan?? it seem like they should have a lot
buklao123 2 years ago
and why no Shuai Jiao that good grappling for Chinese
buklao123 2 years ago
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buklao559 2 years ago
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