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  • FAKE IMAGES

  • Because the assumption of rectangular shape is residence area, the border line of rectangle should be roads. But in the photo of Mars, I don't see any noticeable thickness in the board, which means, it's the rectangle is probably not the border of residence block. I highly guess that's just aliasing effect of photo pixels.

  • isn't that rectangular shapes are resulted from the pixels by aliasing in the photo itself? To me, it looks like..

  • Shit music!

  • looks pixilated

  • Finnlander, why don't you download the images for yourself from ESA. I have downloaded 2 images of the hale crater, one west , the other from south viewing and checked the images myself. The strange outlines in the crater are repeatable in both images indicating that it is NOT jpg compression or some other noise artifact in the camera or transmission of the image. If you use photoshop you can repeat what everybody else is doing farily easily.

  • I've seen this kind of patterning in many photos of both Mars and the Moon. I think this is a form of pixelation caused by the camera not having enough colours to choose from.

    I was excited when I first saw this. I checked it out and discussed it with some artist friends. I looked further and found similar patters elsewhere. Sadly this is indeed a form of pixelation.

  • They are in fact JPEG compression artifacts. The HRSC definitely uses JPEG compression on the photometric data prior to sending it back to earth. The reason why the patterns are aligned with the topology of the surface and are the same from different perspectives is that the perspective views are actually computer genererated images using a 3D model of surface (derived from the HRSC's stereo data) with 2D images of the surface (bearing the artifacts) projected onto them.

  • So nothing special here. You just need to know that the compression the camera uses creates such artifacts and that the 3D-views are not actually "photos" but 3D renderings.The artifacts could even have been amplified by the lighting calculations used when creating the 3D image, or by other steps of image processing like extracting the natural colour of the landscape from the photometric data (which contains much more colour information than visible by humans - far into infrared and ultraviolet)

  • Yes you are absolutely right. I checked each camera colour R,G,B and there are no patterns in one colour band and different patterns in each of the remaining colour bands indicating that it is a JPG compression effect. And you are also correct in that the rotation of the effects is due to the 3D image processing. The rotation of the artifacts is what gives the illusion that it is an ancient city.

  • Yep, only access to the raw images in uncompressed format, would I be interested in, the actual snapshots taken.

  • @gwani , you are 100% right!

  • The image of the crater is synthetic virtual scene of Mars. It was produced by draping a satellite image of Mars on top of 3D topography, the blocky appearance is caused by Jpeg compression artifacts in the low quality draped image.

    Take an Jpeg image, use a photo viewing program, save the image at a quality setting of only 5 to 10, you will see the same blocky effect.

  • Not quite. This video footage was taken from a NASA documentary, I'm sure NASA know what they're talking about more than you do.

  • The data is from the European Space Agency's (ESA) Mars Express space probe, its not from NASA.

  • Same thing applies.

  • ESA says its the Crater Hale (latitude 36° South and longitude 324° East). Here are two a higher resolution images taken by Mars Global Surveyor (1 meter) and Mars Express (40 meter).

    Google "MGS MOC Release No. MOC2-257, 17 November 2000" and "Hale Crater in black and white"

  • Will those people who believe we came from a planet in a galaxy far far away .Could you please find out where we parked the spaceship.

  • Who says we need a spaceship? There are different theories why we're here. Most plausable one is that we're brought here by meteor, evolved for some billion years. Or that we're hybrids. God said that he made us in his image. In ancient times and now we look into the sky to symbolize our affection towards God. Well, what if this so called God or Gods are just aliens that made us in their image? Other more accepted theory is well, just evolution, random chance. Choose one to believe..

  • the genesis says "let US make man in OUR image" there is no singular reference to god at any time, the US and OUR imo, was the hybridisation of the reptilians and the humanoids, the 50/50 ones rule humans on earth now and can 'shapeshift' the reptilians, or atleast some of them apparently came here riding venus, which has 7 domed areas(7 races of reptilians) and this caused a cataclysm on earth and especially mars, and the humans from mars came here, and got dominated and enslaved by reptilians

  • some think the moon is a spaceship, and also venus, venus was found to have 7 domed areas on it, and they flew it into our solar system, the moon is also likely, as it is in a crazy orbit, always facing the same side to earth, like it was parked there like a satellite...

  • i think you shuld study de bible better

  • ok MAYBE BUT IF YOU VISIT THE GIANTS CAUSEWAY IN NORTHERN IRELAND you will swear someone built it.

  • there are other intelligent life forms out there, and not idiots with lasers, but i do believe they are making great progress in technology without any actually releasing shit in the air like us, that means every other civilization out there is smarter than us, and probably knows more about the universe

  • we are not taking that shit...when it comes to science, i really dont give a damn about the bible, the universe it too big and mysterious to have all life on earth, and nothing on mars, too big, there are other universes too, that are part of the galactic web, those universes probably have planets with intelligent life too smart one!

  • scientists now think mars had conditions with liquid water that COULD have supported life

  • I doubt we came from earth. Probably from afar in the galaxy, or farther. Perhaps migration from a dying world somewhere out there, long ago...perhaps ran off by war or disaster.

  • Mars wasn't suitable for life for several hundred million years, maybe even a billion years. I doubt we would see such clear remains on the surface after such long periods of time. Many ancient Egyptian remains are underground now, and the pyramids are falling appart quickly, and it's only been a few thousand years since their contruction, with people constantly trying to restore them. I think Mars might have had intelligent life in the past, but I don't think this is the proof. It's underground

  • cool video..yeah i downloaded the same info from the esa site, i noticed now at the esa site those pictures are now all fucking altered, but i have the proof on my hard disc,

  • You idiot. Really, you complete idiot.

    I have no time for religious nuts. Now fuck off.

  • why not send the landrover there?

  • I know for a fact my neighbor is an alien. She's weird... We're not alone in the universe? After seeing my neighbor, YES WE WANNA BE ALONE!

  • isnt water on the moon too?

  • I volunteer to go with the first rocket to Mars,.....well maybe the second.

  • We're not alone. How can it be that in this immense universe we are the only life form?

  • i aggree, but if we are, we really screwed things up haven't we, univrese depending on us to colonize?? what a joke!

  • it's really stupid to think that we're alone

  • REAL!!

  • It is clear the pics have been heavily edited (color and zoom) to show those "rectangular patterns", which may very well be compression artifacts as previously stated. Take a picture of any other irregular surface with similar resolution and apply the same editing procedures. You will most likely get the same result.

  • The world is full of the inexplicable and the unknown, just

  • maybe not mars but in the whole of space ! do you thing where the most intelligent ( see i cant even spell!!! ) creatures out here ? god i hope not!

  • jpg compression artifacts are not evidence of alien civilsation. even if you enhance them.

    today i went past harper's ferry and the shenadoah river has an amazing grid in the rocks which the wter courses over and it is not man-made, although by your standards it must be the foundation of come cyclopean megapolis, it is simply geology.

  • No, but the fact that the rock has grids in it made from WATER means that there is life there!

  • Water is not alive...

  • were there is water there is life

  • nice song

  • Nice job displaying the Hale Crater anomalies!

    The more publicity the better.

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