Christina bellantoni goes on msnbc to discuss the state of the health care debate

[Slickback83]

i want 2 do h3r

[veriteez]

Can someone tell me why Obama will not purse allowing insurance companies to compete across state lines? Seems like by allowing all of them to compete in all states that demand would go down along with costs. It's an option Obama knows would work, but it would fail to give more control to the govt.. Obama, is this about Govt. control or personal control? Open the damn state lines and let competition in. I thought Dems. hated monopoly? Freedom of choice!

[bigc028282]

Doesn't sound like "free trade" to me. Of course the idiots representing the idiots, will act like it is. Free trade would cure it all. When you can't call up BlueCross in another state, to get the rate you can get there, there is the problem. There is no competition, and it's been that way since the retard representatives sold everyone out in the 70's; to the insurance lobby. Now the insurance industry will make even more money with either bill. THAT ISN'T WRITTEN YET. All we got is PORK so far

[augoustinos]

@veriteez Sure Veriteez! Opening state lines will allow ALL insurers to choose states that require them to offer the least service to their clients, effectively continuing the current problem. Also, it would lead to a HUGE mergers and acquisitions spree that will make insurers even more powerful than they are today, effectively strengthening their oligopoly on the health insurance market.

[veriteez]

@augoustinos - over 1,000 companies in the u.s., and an average of 20 per state. Don't you think mergers would have happened by now blocking out competition? yes. Obama doesn't want true competition amongst companies. Free-market isn't what is creating this. The problem is that they are not allowing free-market into each state. People lose. Govt. wins.

[augoustinos]

@veriteez Ok, but do we agree that competition does not happen within states at this point? We are talking of expanding this nationally. Why would Blue Cross of This State stay independent from Blue Cross of That State?

[veriteez]

@augoustinos - I think Bluse cross should have the same coverage in every state. I also think that ALL 1,200 companies should be allowed access across all state lines before the govt. steps in as "another" competitor. You don't fix the problem by injecting govt. YOU ALLOW ALL TO COMPETE, to bring down costs. See how that goes before this happens. Majority doesn't rule, according to Obama. The majority doesn't want this.

[kaysandesses]

"Can someone tell me why Obama will not purse allowing insurance companies to compete across state lines?"

Because that is a State's issue, not a federal government issue. It is the regulations in the various States that prevent insurance companies who do not meet the specific state standards from doing business there. If an insurance company wants to meet the reg's, they can do business in that state. Blue Cross Blue Shield has presence in most states because they will meet the various regs

[veriteez]

@kaysandesses - I know it's due to state regulations. My concern is why set a regulation-bar on companies? Let all of them compete freely and I believe changes within that setting could change. It's not a federal issue, but Obama is making it a federal issue by implementing penalties on those who refuse any coverage.

[kaysandesses]

I still think you don't fully understand the issue. Do you understand the difference between States powers and fed. gov. powers? I don't understand what you mean by "regulation bar".

The proposed penalties for not having health insurance even though it is a federal bill has absolutely nothing to do with the fact that states have the purveyance to regulate insurance policies sold with that state.

[veriteez]

@kaysandesses - my point is HR 3962 wants to determine what is sufficient health insurance amongst private insurers. Now if it is regulated by the states, than 3962 should not be interferring. That's not "another competitor". I understand federal and state powers. Though I'm no expert on it. By setting regulations on a state-level, competition is being stifled. Let all companies compete.

[datachip]

The reporter failed to answer the anchor's final question: Are the administration's dire warnings just scare tactics or real? Instead of answering this critical question, Ms. Bellatoni opines on the political, horse race aspect of the debate.

How disappointing. It does not help us as a country decide what's best to do.

[Tha89Kid]

you people dont recognize how crhristina is beautiful,seen her for the first time :) what are the democratic principles?bailing out health insurances?mmmh i thought it was universal health care?are these democrats aware of that?i guess is the letter "D".....we need tough,people with balls!........Public Option!

[MotionFrequency]

Give the democrats your health care and let them tax you more because if you went to Harvard you would know that the answer to everything is to raise taxes and let government which is the only intelligent entity in existence know how to spend you money. Give the government your check, and they will take care of you. You are too dumb to decide for yourself how to spend the money you worked for. Only big brother can decide where to spend your taxes whether on global warming, economy, or health.

[pakratmak]

When I see people so passionately spewing venom and vitriol at their fellow countrymen, who are actually on the same side as them, I see that politicians and the media are far more successfull than we give them credit for. The venom and vitriol is actually the product of their efforts.

Stop fighting amongst each other and know your enemy folks. You can have the most clever or even correct argument over the next poster and you are both still losing. Snap out of it. Wake up.

[IAMtheNewWorldOrder]

Wow, that was quite a refreshing and unexpected thing to read on youtube. What a concept right?

[pakratmak]

Thanks. Indeed- what a concept.

[Zakdayak]

Bellatoni seems to be towing the Obama line in her latest interviews. The stress of this is " Pass something...ven a gallstone!"

[AnneOnAMoose]

What the fuck!? The host says people are just to busy to find out what's in the bill! IT'S YOUR FUCKING JOB TO INFORM THE PUBLIC!

[dennist3hmenace]

Haha, no, it isn't. It's her job to keep people as misinformed as possible. OHMYGAH TIGERWOODS VOICEMAIL

[route99]

Truthfully without the right health care reform Medicare's and Medicaid's costs will grow so far out of control that they will bankrupt the nation. You can look at anyone's projections they all say the same thing.

The public option was a compromise most cost conscious Americans could stomach. The Medicare buy-in or Kuchinich's Amd. to allow state's to choose single payer would have been better. All 3 are out of the bill, and we're stuck with a watered down give away to private insurance.

[tomst1212]

what do you think will happen with the public option the same people that run medicare and social security will be running it so how will it be better

[bigc028282]

There is a larger number that don't want it than that. IT'S THE PORK, POLITICS, AND LIES, you stupid F*ckers. Thanks for all the "news".

What do you expect from "news" that is owned by as many as 5 corps like GE, that make more money on the agenda's than providing the "news". Comcast is no different.

If THEY were worried about bankruptcy, they should not have allowed 120+ years of OUR GDP, in "bailouts, interest, and derivatives.

NOW the retards want a "carbon credit/tax" SCAM! BILL NOT WRITTEN!

[goldensextant]

bigc you should try making sense and completing a coherent sentence... OR shut the fuck up

[bigc028282]

It's not my fault you cannot read, must less post, something of substance based on FACTS. You got hope and change f*cked, didn't you!

F*CKING MORON!

Don't tell me, your for THE BILL THAT HAS NOT BEEN WRITTEN YET; and that must be "signed or the government will go bankrupt".

Your now like the 37% that were behind Bushtard in the end. Now it's that number for Obumass in less than a year.

[IAMtheNewWorldOrder]

calm the fuck down. go jack off to some sarah palin pictures and watch Falling Down or something.

Jesus who are you even yelling at? don't you know Obama even pissed half of the left off by watering down this bill?

[bigc028282]

@IAMtheNewWorldOrder

Cause it was ALL BULLSH1T in the first place. I am glad that retards like you will have to find a pretend socialist country for your agenda's anyway.

HOPE in one hand, BUSH in the other.

The only agenda's that have a chance are the ones that f*ck all us little people; AS ALWAYS.

The majority will be flipped in the next election; like it always is when they have the WH.

I don't expect a hope and change sucker to get it. Isn't it past your bedtime? Is your homework done?

[IAMtheNewWorldOrder]

yeah, fuck coming up with new ideas when our country is in crisis, lets just keep doing more of the same. fuck the middle class, let's just become a corporate monarchy. i wonder how much you guys will like the "free" market when you're working for $2 an hour because thats the highest paying job in your area because anything more than that would be "socialism".

The problem with people like you is you think you're one of them. You're not. You are a pawn in their game.

[bigc028282]

@IAMtheNewWorldOrder Who brought us "NAFTA"? "CARBON CREDITS"? "HEALTH CARE" (almost) Who threatened congress with martial law for "bailouts". Who said the gov will go bankrupt, (like we haven't been since they let the Private Fed Reserve in) if the 'health care" bill, that isn't even written or transparent, isn't passed.

It has NOTHING to do with "socialism" lefty, it's corporate fascism on both sides. ELITE, and everyone else.

[Research1nterrupted]

bailouts were passed under bush, dumbass.

Oh, and someone who goes off spouting names like "lefty" at someone surely isn't a brainwashed teabagging drone. And, yes, I am being sarcastic.

[bigc028282]

Make sure to thumb down FACTS, you f*cking retards. There is the problem with the government, too many stupid idiots voting for lies.