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  • man to hell with popular

  • I want to get one but should I get .410 or 20 guage/ which has cheaper ammo?

  • @jWARRICKm 20 gauge is by far cheaper than .410 and also packs a larger punch...which also means it tears up game more

  • hi i was wandering if you can get these in the uk

  • the screw problem that it might get lost is an easy problem to fix, just ask a machinist to make you a screw with a knob, so you can assemble and dis-assemble with out using a tool, a stainless material would be nice for the small project,

  • That is a great gun but I would rather have a .22 long rifle also. I got a great gun from rossi it is a .22 long rifle barrel with a 20 gauge barrel you can change the barrels out pretty easily with one screw witch does not need a screw driver. The cool thing about this is you cant loose the screw it breaks apart for easy carrying and you can put a survival gun in the stock witch you can find lots of videos about look at rossiusa.com if want this gun or this but with different caliber(s)

  • if you do put it together in the woods best not loose that little screw...might be a good idea to carry some electrical tape just in case...that's if you carry it in two parts in a back pack...

  • This looks like my fathers Benelli m1014. .3.

  • i like it. a swivel, sling lanyard to replace the screw,and a shotgun hologram sight. Maybe a variety of different shells,and a flashlight added.makes for a good SHTF gun.

  • Nice gun. Definitely handy in a survival/self reliance situation

    Nate

  • .410 is a great survival firearm.

    The .22 / .410 combos are a great choice for backpacking.

    The Savage Model 24 and Springfield Scout are excellent.

  • A .410 using slugs can take Deer and Wild Pigs...if you can get reasonably close and can shoot well.

  • You should invest in getting a Rossi matched pair it comes with a .22 barrel and a .410 one as well i think the going price is about $180 and that will give you a little more flexibility.

  • I've had an H&R "Topper" since I was 10 years old. Learning to hunt with a single shot .410 taught me how to be a patient and accurate hunter. I've had some other rifles and shotguns over the last 25+years but a few weeks into every season I go back to my "old reliable". It's rugged, simple, quiet, and lightweight for hunters like myself who like to trek 10+miles in the woods. If you need a 12 gauge pump/auto to kill anything turkey size and below....."You're doing it wrong".

  • have one of them shotguns they are nice and fun.  Down in the South we call them snake tamers..lol

  • why would you ever need a .22 when you already have a .410?

  • @Gthompson09 mainly when the m6 Scout was made military pilots to store under the seat. For some reason they was shot down. Y have both? Even tho the 410 had the knock down power it don't have the range as an 22 does. So y not have both into one gun.

  • I have a new england firearms .410 and i love those little shot guns.

  • You've Got to be from ND,Mn, MI or somewhere in that area!

  • would it kill a duck

  • @Aussiehunter100 i honestly wouldn't try to kill a duck with a 410. if you do, better make sure you are close. if the duck is at any decent distance the .410 may not be able to achieve a clean kill, or even kill it at all.

  • very nice shotgun!!

  • i have a very old stevens model 940 single shot .410 shotgun and that thing has a pretty big bite on it that im guessing is because its barely over 3.5 pounds

  • i have the handi rifle in 270,but the beauty of it is the interchangable barrels, I was wondering if you had any experience. Does the Tamer shoot slugs? How about buckshot experience? I was thinking about getting one to carry in the brush in lieu of the 22 auto i usually bring. think it would have the puissance for defense against animals?

  • Is this Gun full choke?

  • hello there, i have a .410 shotgun and i was wondering if it is illegal to saw off a part of the butt stock. it would still be over 26 inches i just dont know if i can modify this weapon like that. much appreciated if someone can help me out here.

  • wouldnt you have to pick out the pellets ?

  • hah my grampa has one of these with the stock cut down and the barrel sawed off. single shot 410 pistol :) only about 16in long or so and its perfect for survival. however yes it is very illegal x]

  • not a bad pattern. The standard target to pattern a shotgun is a 30 inch circle.

  • The H&R is better than the M6 Scout, because in a real situation you will be using the 410 anyways, and besides, the H&R has a shell ejector so it reloads faster. Anyone that has hunted with a 410 knows the value of fast reloads AND follow up shots.

  • For me the # 1 priority in the wild is get food and water as soon is it possible. And the 410 is perfect for get food quickly because it doesn´t cause to much damage to you catch, and for the self defence purpose or bigger animals you can use slugs and 000 ammo

  • @sietepeo1 I agree, the .410 is a pretty good choice. I would usually preffer a .22 or 12g but this little gun has a lot going for it IMO.

  • @swibo6 would this be good for turkey hunting

  • @swibo6 do u think you could shoot 45s out of it to or just 410s

  • @sietepeo1 in most places your priority is not food it is water fire shelter then food possibly switching the last 3 around. water is priority after just a small percentige of water lose you start to think slower and make bad decisions.

  • it would be a good rabbit hunting gun

  • Might see if you can find an after market sling/screw for the fore stock. I have a .410/ .22 combo and it's nice to just undo and swap barrels.

  • At that range the spread is bad. Tool large spread and no pellets at the center of the paper. Was the range 20 meters or so?

  • within the first 30 seconds of this vid i could tell your canadian lol

  • Interesting gun, but if I was backpacking it around I would saw off the pistol grip and lower part of the stock. (leaving the part of the stock that goes straight back to the shoulder. A folding stock would be even better (if you could find one that fits or possibly make it fold by sawing in half and adding a small SS hinge one side and a patch plate and screws on the other that hold it open for use) toavoid having to take it down each time.

  • what made you go with the 410ga over the 20ga

  • hey that looks like a rossi tuffy but with a different stock

  • @vpsaline I'm not sure if sgtboffy was trying to claim that the Tamer can "fire 45Lc just not with pinpoint accuracy" but I've owned a Tamer for a good seven months or so now so I can tell you that you can load a .45 LC into the chamber of a Tamer but I'd say with the full choke, there's a good reason why H&R specifies if a .410 barrel is designed for a .410/45 LC combination.

    So you probably CAN fire them in the gun, but I'd say your barrel will go Elmer Fudd on your REAL quick...

  • DUDE!! I love your videos!!! Excellent bush craft stuff! I love ur Canadian accent eh?

  • @SuperR3volver lol! Thanks, I want to do a survival guns vid soon I think that would be fun.

  • I have a Thompson Contender with a 410 barrel. So this inspiires me. Also have a Savage .22/20 guage. But like this.

    cheers

  • always use portection

  • I bought a H&R Pardner in 12Gauge, its a great single shot break action, but it kicks like a mule!

  • will it shoot slugs

  • just enough for stay alive in the jungle for a long period of time, for get you food and with right ammo for self defence too

  • @sietepeo1 YES!!! I think that with the right ammo and in the right hands,this little shotgun has a lot of potential.

  • ncie, looks a bit cheap tho.. but im used to wood stock and grips.. the asembely looks easy but might take a while when a black bear is chasing you up a tree lol.. sweet vid :) thumbs up and sub

  • @MdashMUNIT Thanks! I like a wooden stock as well but my synthetics see more use these days because of all the rain and dampness.

  • @swibo6 yeah thats ture i dont think a wooden stock would last half as ong as one of those where you hunt but if you took that to a english game shoot you would look a fool! haa. great little 410 tho :)

  • thats cool but u have no range with such a short barrel

  • I got a snake charmer but I think the stock is way to short. But the H&R is a big improvement over the snake charmer imo.

  • how much was this gun

  • @hhh123dx Cheap! I think it was about 150 Canadian brand new.

  • i got one i is so fun to shot

  • Thats a wicked looking shotgun maybe il look into this, it looks much lighter then the 12 gauge i like its a modern old school look a like with a single shot

  • Most any hardware store should be able to find a screw with a knurled head you could turn by hand.

    I saw one of these at a Gander mountain and thought it might be a great back pack gun. With slugs it should take even a deer from up close. I had looked at the Henry AR7 in .22LR but I think this would be more useful. It definitely would have more impact with slugs then the.22 and shot should be effective on small game. My Sears .410 brought home rabbits, squirrels, and pheasants as a kid.

  • Henry still makes the the .410/22 survival rifle

  • just bought the rossi version as it was smaller and lighter, but i do own the version of this that shoots the 45/410. the 410 is probably better than the m6 because you can shoot slug. but at the price of the scout you could probably get a decent .22 kit gun.

  • i just bought this yesterday only its the 20ga.  verson verry cool vid

  • @TheGunguy1 Good choice, 20ga. rocks in lightweight gun!

  • Just bought this gun. saw it and had to have it i really like it so far.

  • It would be nicer if they had the old pop off foregrips for dissembly, my old H&R you just have to yank the foregrip off, no screwing.

  • can it kill a deer from like 30 yards away?

  • @Xilser If you used 3" slugs and made a good shot I think it could. In a survival situation I wouldn't pass up the chance but I would choose a proper rifle if I had the option.

  • I bought one for my 12 year old son, and the first thing I did was replace the screw with a wing nut welded to a bolt, there is a spare in the shotshell holder as well. faster, easier takedown, and works great even w/ gloves on.

  • can you shoot 45 LC from it?

  • yea my dad spent the last 3 years looking for an m6 scout, he finnaly found one but it not all the great or very accurate. its a cool gun but it not that great.

  • G'day Mate well done on the vid pretty cool i am getting the survivor version and i cant wait i love H&R i had a Pardner in .410 but i like the Idea of Dual purpose. 410/45 I wonder if the new 460 S&W would fit that would be devistating on game!

  • Hey there newy22au, yeah I love the NEF/H&R's too. I'd like to have one to match every other gun caliber that I own but then I would probably leave the repeater at home and carry the single instead! I'll show a few more of my NEF/H&R's in videos soon! I'm glad you liked the vid!

  • i pearsonally like my ancient "k-mart" brand .410 you dont need a screwdriver it just pulls apart

  • dude ive got the same 1 it was my dads when he was 16 and its never failed me

  • Consider getting some of the .410 bore 000 buck loads for defence. The ammo storage is a nice feature.

  • I'm trying, it's hard to get anything that's low demand were I live so I may have to make some myself. So far I have slugs, 2.5 and 3" #4 and some 2.5" #6 but I'm hanging on to my empties!

  • great vid but that is one piece of crap gun!! that spread is disgusting. and a screwdriver need for assemply?and the screw doesint even stay in the stock...epic fail

  • Well, in it's defence It's not intended to be used as a take down gun so I will have to come up with a solution to the screw problem. Any gun that you buy is really just a starting point and will have to be changed to suit ones needs. And regarding the group, that's more my fault than the guns (I probably almost missed because I'm holding the cam as well) so don't write it off because of that!

    I'm glad you liked the vid though, thanks!

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  • Get the Choate Store-Arm forend and the screw that goes with it, about $20. My H&R Survivor has this and it not only allows you to take down without a screwdriver but you can store stuff in it. I keep 8 rounds 45 Colt, 4 rounds 2-1/2 inch #9 and 4 rounds 3 inch #4 in it. The Survivor stock , about $30, also has storage in it.

  • I'll look into that. I'm actually thinking about making my own forend for this thing. I have a survivor in .223 and the thumb screw works well so I'll have to make a similar setup for the .410.

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  • Well done! I prefer the singles over any other type. I have a NEF Tamer in 20 gauge...same type of gun. Good video.

  • The funny thing about this is that I bought the gun to be my wife's kayak "wilderness survival gun" but every time I borrow it find myself liking it more and more!!

  • get some #3 buckshot and some slugs. Have a variety of ammo for different things.

  • yep, good call! I mostly have #4 shot and slugs right now but I'll try more loads out as I findem'.

  • @swibo6 Well in my quest for slugs for my Stevens 20 Guage I found that most are for rifled barrels so beware when you look for them. There are only certain types. .410 at 50 yards will take down a deer.

  • Yes, I really only intended this gun to be for survival small game hunting, if I ever did have to us it for larger game I would only use it at bow hunting distances. I'll probably do some testing on vid one of these days.

  • @swibo6 So how well does the shell ejector work on yours? Have seen some of the H&R bigger gauges not work worth a poop. I hope they got the quality under control.

  • another gun that works for me is the 22/410 rossi youth. It fits in your pack and you get to choose what ammo u want to use

  • do you think this would fit in a medium size alice pack

  • I don't have an alice pack but this might help you:

    -the barrel including the chamber is about 19 3/8" long.

    -the stock and reciever is about 16 3/4" long.

    -the pistol grip from bottom to the place were a rear sight would be is under 5.5" with the hammer back.

    -side by side the two pieces are under 3" wide.

    I would imagine that this gun will fit in most any pack that is bigger than a regular day pack.

  • @swibo6 well how tall is your pack

  • I haven't measured the pack but it just barely fits the barrel so I would say it's about 19.5" inside height.If you are using a weekend or multi-day pack it will most likely fit inside.

  • does anybody have the 20 gauge, i have one but the third shell doesn't wanna stay in the spot on the side, the one closest to the bottom of the butt of the gun, does anybody else have this problem?

  • nice video and nice gun man, you got more snow than me hehe but probably not for too much longer !! :)

  • Only if H&R lightened the barrel and stuck a 22 on top ... Thanks for the vid

  • i started hunting with a .410 just like that. i love that gun. shot a lot of game with it, good video

  • I have got to hunt where you live, you have time to put on earmuffs before you shoot them.....lol just kidding great vid brother....and I miss my tamer...when I finish paying for the pistol I bought my wife im going to get another one.

  • Does the paper run away faster where you live? j/k!! If I'm just plinking I'll make the effort to save my ears but hunting is a different story. It has paid off, I often hear things but the people I'm with just can't pick it up.

  • Yuk snow I wonder if you can just swap that screw for a thumb twister ?

  • Yes, I swapped mine and painted it black to match tghe gun

  • I like that! I will have to try and find one somewhere.

  • most gun shops have them for around 150.00

  • yep, and that's brand new! That's some good bang for your buck IMO.

  • looks like a great setup

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