Bad people aren't bad because their religious/atheist. Some people use their beliefs to justify what they do, but they're just making up excuses. Most people, regardless of their beliefs, just kinda chill and go about their lives. People like to point fingers at big obvious evil figures and say "they're the other guy!" just to push their own beliefs.
Think middle east. There are entire tribes and people in those areas who suppress the rights of their females, persecute homosexuals etcetera, not because they're particularly bad people - they would've been fine citizens in other, less religious countries - but because they grew up believing their sacred texts.
Those are people using religion to gain supremacy in their culture. Religion is a tool to them, a trump card they use to ensure that they're always right.
I don't think so. Remember, we're talking about ENTIRE PEOPLES here. Each and every one of them a powerhungry madman willing to use his fellow humans as a stepping stone? Not bloody likely. I think this is because of cultural influences, and in these cases, religion is that cultural influence.
In these situations, the males are used to being on top and their religion gives them a means of supremacy over women. There may be select few men within their societies, but the overwhelming male majority hold on to religious dogma to remain on top. The bible distinctly puts women in an inferior position, but nations that are mostly christian don't have the same problem because the zeitgeist of women having rights caused them to ignore those parts of it as they ignore the kid killing parts.
To give an example, in parts of the muslim world they say it's a sin to kill a virgin female, so to get around it they're rape her first. Similarly, in the bible there is a clause that would allow you to force a woman to marry you if you rape her and pay her father.
Now i'm not saying i like or approve of any of these books, but it is the society that choses which parts to follow; it is the society that poisens the minds of the children. The books are just means to an end.
Yeah Christians do good, like Hitler, Pinochet etc... they were good model Christians... please respond to why in the bible god promotes murder to unfaithful and those who entice you to leave your god ? why does god promote slavery ? I thought the bible was a book of morality...
God allowed murder people lived under the Law (OT) and not under Grace (NT); And the slavery back then was different from how we think of it today. Back then, it was willing servantry and labor to survive under a roof and food. Not like the blacks being caught, sold, and forced to toil.
"He who kidnaps a man, whether he sells him or he is found in his possession, shall surely be put to death." (Exodus 21:16)
Hitler and Pinochet were NOT Christians. They may have CLAIMED to be Christians, but their lifestyles did not reflect it. Did Hitler, for example, love his neighbor and pray for those who cursed him? No. Did he take care of the orphans and widows? No. Did he follow the teaching "but I tell you if anyone is so much as angry with his brother, he is already subject to judgement [of murder]." No. So, I'm failing to see how Christianity is to blame for Hitler.
No one who is Christian lives the Christian life, its a fact. Every Christian has premarital sex, which is forbidden in the bible. They all cheat on their wives, not to mention the refugee
of pedophiles AKA Catholic Church. Go to death row and see how many in there are atheists... maybe 1% ? all the rest are christians or of islamic faith. Hitler united the people under
Are you sure about that? My own two parents are devout, fundamentalist Protestants who have been married for nearly thirty years. They were virgins when they were married and they have always stayed faithful to each other. ALWAYS! See how dangerous it is to use words like "all", "every", "none" "nobody", "everybody", and "no one"?
And no, it DOES matter what you say. I have never rejected atheism but I have also never seen any evidence that the universe can come into exisence without a God. And how can you expect me to take you seriously when you spew out crap like "Hitler was a Christian" and "no Christians are faithful to their spouses"? You think I'M ignoring concrete facts? Religion can't hold a candle to people like Mao, Stalin, Pol Pot, and Kim Jong-Il. Atheism is the worst killer of all time; not religion!
Yeah because more people have died because of Atheism than religion. Christian missionaries go to Africa and preach that condom use is sinful,
how is this bad ? Well in Africa around 2 million people die of aids every year. THERES GREEN leprechauns FARTING ON EACH OTHER IN THE MIDDLE OF THE SUN... since you cant deny it, it must be true ? is that your logic ? If it is I question your power to reason.
Do you have any evidence that all 2 million died because Christians told them not to use condoms? Did you ever consider that maybe Africans can't AFFORD condoms in the first place? No, of course you didn't. . .
For some reason, you are looking only at the faults of Christians without considering that we are the first ones to jump at an opportunity to go down to the third world in the first place to build houses for the homeless and feed the hungry. Atheists, as a whole, do nothing similar.
So you think its alright to preach to a nation where 2 million die of aids each year that condom use is sinful and just let them get aids, then give it to their child.... wow you're one great christian.
Thank you for twisting my words by setting up a straw man. I'm pretty sure you have managed to use every informal fallacy in logic in this discussion. You know why I can't stand atheists? Because of what it does to their attitude. You're abrasive, arrogant, condescending, smug, slanderous, sinful, illogical and proud of it.
I'm pretty sure I never said you have to prove that God doesn't exist. I said that I would like to see evidence of the POSSIBILITY that God doesn't exist. By this I mean that if you can't explain how matter, energy, and order created themselves, or how life arose from non-life, then how can I consider atheism a valid belief system?
(Btw, if you do show this to me, you will be the first and only person to do so!)
Thats the problem with religious people, they are arrogant like you; thinking they know life's mysteries, waving a book that is morally and scientifically wrong, but that doesnt matter to you right... you don't pay attention to facts. Keep thinking the world is 6000 years old and that you were created from a God even though evidence shows otherwise.
you may have a good point that not all christians are the same. some christians are great people, some are nuts ...BUT, many of your other points are wayyy off. YES, the bible is calling all athiests fools. in all of your quotes, its saying that a person cannot be truly wise without believing in god. that is calling athiests fools. its also saying that no matter what good a person does in his or her life, if they dont believe in god, they are damned.
all of the "fools" listed in the video do not "show off". you are belittling their accomplishments and contributions to mankind. The reason they are famous is because of their accomplishments, not because they simply want to be famous.
the point of that video, which seems to escape you, is that there are many athiests out there who are good, kind, and intelligent people. "He provides true wisdom for those who are righteous and honest." can you honestly tell me that those men and women are not? even if they dont believe, they still do serve god by many christian definitions.
in response to the end of the video... "show me your proves!" (im assuming you mean 'proof'.) i will turn Carl Sagan's quote against you... "extraordinary claims demand extraordinary profs." i would like you to prove to me that god does exist. can you show me something that proves his/her/its existence that cant be explained by random chance or pseudoscience? if not... there is no proof god exist, just like their is no proof that he/she/it doesnt.
Damn, dude! If you are going to spend hours creating and editing a video and post it for the world to see, have a friend who can read and write proofread it for you.
People like you make "Christian" and "ignorant" seem synonymous. You weaken your case with every attempt to defend it.
2) What gives the bible the right to rewrite the meaning of the word 'fool'?
3) George Bush senior's comments are the epitome of American's view of Athiesm.
4) This fails to address the fundemental argument of 'Athiest' which is; athiests can be decent and intelligent people and there is nothing wrong with refusing to follow the Bible. I've given this a rating of one as zero is not an option.
Your kidding right, the point wasto prove that athiest weren't horrible people. So you say don't put everyone in a bag when the man who made the video is just syaing look at yourselfs. If you open-minded, you'll see this video (Atheist) was not meant for you.
God hangs a circular earth over nothing, He made innumerable stars, and He expands all of Space. And your response to how these simple, nomadic people understood these futuristic concepts and wrote them in the Bible, is what again? Beginner's luck? God perhaps!, -who said that He guided the Biblical writers with His Spirit.
oh, because there's a kids book talking about replicator cells and DNA origination...hahaha. Must be thrilling to decide which nucleotide to color in. And besides, please share ur version of where DNA came from. Then argue.
STOP TRYING TO GET ATHEISTS TO PROVE THERE IS NO GOD! Do you not understand the concept of innocent until proven guilty? What if we just arrested people and forced them to prove that they didn't do anything without proving that they did? Besides, it is impossible to disprove god because god has been designed to be an unfalsifyable argument. THAT'S NOT A GOOD THING.
If I call an atheist slime, a sack of shit, a dirt ball, or lower than the bottom of my shoe, would I really be stretching their beliefs, if after all, we all call from the same compost pile?
Nah,... Earth dust forming a DNA molecule all by itself is what I call a little silly, -for all you "rational thinkers" out there.
Your right, A big man in the sky created a guy and created a woman using ne of the guy's ribs. It's quite rational and takes years of knowledge to understand that.
I love this video. But I hate when critics hack away at the Old Testament over and over and over again. The OT is DONE AWAY WITH when Jesus brought the New Covenant!!! We don't have to stone people, we don't have to make sacrifices, etc. Jesus is called "The Lamb" for being the ultimate sacrifice for mankind. Jeez, even when God makes it easier, pompous atheism just ruins it for themselves.
If Atheists are Humanists and are free thinkers, meaning that they can choose to believe in whatever thing that makes sense to them, then what if an Atheist decides that his/her way of being happy is by killing others, what is there to stop him/her?
What if these "social animals" decide to lead a life in a "non-social animal way". What is there in Atheism to supress such kind of moral behavior and encourage a "social animal" way of life? Where is then the accountability in Atheism.
We can't choose to believe anything we want! where did you get that from? Just because Atheists don't get the morals from the Bible doesn't mean we don't have any! "Morals" evolved along with humans. Humans evolved in small groups of 50-100 and we needed to cooperate to survive. This simple altruism evolved into our complex morals. The prison population in the US is 75% Christian and only .2% Atheist.
And by the way, if you got your morals from the Bible, when was the last time you stoned an adulterer or someone that worked on the Sabbath? Letting those Morals slip a little aren't you?
The fact is God's laws are absolute. If we believe man makes the rules, then really, anything is allowable as long as it's in popular interest. The reason God makes better sense is because His laws can't be changed. But now, the world tolerates witchcraft, homosexuality, abortion, etc. Why? Because these laws can slip beneath the wire of PRACTICAL infractions, while atheists just keep the "important" ones.
We all live in a systematic, yet mysterious universe which we can learn to appreciate through science. The evidence is there before you and is waiting to be found.
We live on a planet magically created in 7 days, 6000 years ago, and are governed by an invisible, all-seeing sky daddy who wrote a book that is absolutely true. We don't need evidence for this because our parents told us so.
This assumes that atheists don't. You never say what's wrong with the Open-Relationship System. It's apparently just fine, since people have more successful marriages by it, assuming that all atheists use the system.
What the hell is a "real Christian"? Somebody who believes in the divinty of Jesus, only *more so*? Don't try to bullshit your way into saying that everybody who doesn't give a positive image to Christianity is not a Christian. And how are radical Muslims twisting their religion when they are expressing Islam's tendency to attack other religions through violence? "Islam" may mean "peace", but that sure as hell isn't what it brings.
Yeah you conveniently skipped Bill Gates and Warren Buffet there, two of the biggest philanthropists in the world. Those two people alone make that bible passage ridiculous.
SHUT THE FUCK UP YOU BIBLE-THUMPING MUTHERFUCKER! <yes i can say that to you because im an athiest,if i was a christian id have pray for hours and probably have to BUY A FUCKING INDULGENCE FOR THAT. Anyway....there is no proof that god is real hell christians dont even have proof "we have faith" not "we know" <cause they dont know!
Do you know beyond a shadow of a doubt that god isnt real? you cant know. there is no way until you die. so i wouldnt judge until you can know for sure
Do you know beyond a shadow of a doubt that Vishnu isn't real? If you say yes,the only reason is that you're indoctrinated into Christianity. If you were indoctrinated into Hinduism, you'd believe in Vishnu and think that Christianity is wrong. Oh, and by indoctrination I really mean brainwashed.
Yes but my point is that atheist believe in no God, and all that they have is an assumption. Let me ask you this though. What if you are wrong. If I am wrong then I have nothing to lose I will be just like you when i die. If you are wrong you are going to hell. I could disprove every single argument fo atheism you throw at me but i dont have enough room on here
Atheist have much more than assumption, we have observation and facts. What if you're wrong about Christianity and it turns out Islam is right. You won't be "just like me", you'll burn in Jahannum for internity. You're making an assumption that the only 2 choices are atheism and Christianity. You're an atheist when it comes to every other religion besides yours.
Do you know the defenition of atheist? You can't be atheist against other religions except your own. ATHEISTS HAVE NO RELGION. Use the word correctly. Secondly, if islam is right , and if you are atheist then I will be "just like you", because we are both going to Jahannum. And what facts do you have that atheism is true? You use science but all evidence points to intelligent design. I would list the facts but it would take up the entire page.
YOu missed my point! Of course I misused the word atheist on purpose. Let's put it this way. there are thousands of religions on Earth but you disbelieve all of them except one, so in effect you are an unbeliever with respects to all but one religion. I just happen to be an unbeliever when ot comes to ALL religions. I just take my unbelief one step past yours.
The facts that support Atheism are a total lack of provable, verifiable and testable facts FOR there being a God (I refuse to use the term "intelligent design")! If I were to be shown provable, verifiable and testable facts supporting a God, I would change my views. See, I have the ability to change my views with proof. You, however, have to ignore so much real science to continue to believe in the supernatural.
My friend I have studied both sides with an open mind (unlike you obviously because need to "be shown provable facts supporting a god") scientifically, not biblically i might add, and have formed my views from that. Are you aware that as far as evolution is concerned the evolutionists' two main tools, transitional forms and the geologic column, exist nowhere on earth? And in his book, Darwin used the word presume and suppose more than 250 times? you have theory, thats all
Which "both sides" are you referring to? I asked you before you decided to become a Christian, did you study every other religion on the planet? If not, how are you sure you have the right one? Even the major ones? I'm asking because, when looked at from the outside (a non-believer) none of them make any more sense than any other. Without quoting the Bible, convince me that Christianity makes any more sense than any other religion.
First of all by saying I studied both sides I mean Atheism and Christianity, because these are the two "religions" if you want to call atheism a religion, in question. Secondly, I am not trying to convince you that Christianity makes more sense than every other religion, just atheism, because once again that is the "religion" in question in this debate. Thirdly, think about it. And I can disprove atheism without quoting from the Bible, by disproving a major aspect of it, evolution.
Even if you could disprove a major aspect of evolution (I'm waiting), that still would not prove that the Christian God (or any other God) exists. Making the leap to a super complex God that is somehow outside of time and space is way more unbelievable than any theory science now has. If you want to make that leap without proof, I can't argue with that, you're beyond logic.
Look, this debate is getting absolutely nowhere. I have the facts (and no I am not talking about the Bible) and if you want them I will get them to you. If not then this debate is over and let's just agree to disagree
"You use science but all evidence points to intelligent design." ARE YOU FUCKING KIDDING ME!?!?!?!?!??!? There's fucking fossil evidence to show how old earth is plus chimps share 99 or 98% of our DNA. Don't tell me that bullshit about the Protein DNA. Poor excuse to defend yourself from your myths and fairy tales.
Jordaniac89, pleased to meet you. Just wanted u to know that pandstar is just another one of the misleading Dawkins-possie who makes assumptions on indoctrination. The truth is atheist Madelyn Murray O'hair (founder of American Atheists) disowned her son because he believed in God and became a pastor. Indoctrination, or more atheist bullshit? Don't listen to atheism; they sell you nothing but deceit.
Christians have raised money for charities, built wells in Africa, sheltered the needy and given food to the poor for years and years. I am no different than the many of you who "dare to characterize all of us Christians by using bad examples."
I, nor the Bible, ever said that Christians and atheists can't do good works, because they both can.
However, God defines goodness because that is His nature. He does not seek it like we do. He Is It! And second of all, Bill Gates is more of an agnostic than an atheist.
"I don't know if there's a god or not, but I think religious principles are quite valid," -Bill Gates.
Good to meet you too wordkeeper. It is good to know that there are more like me who are free thinkers. Atheist may not agree, but as non atheist (those with any religion) are more free thinkers than they are because they accept what scientists tell them with out doing research
oh I know. Once you challenge the status quo, you will lose your career and reputation. But seeing that the humanists refuse to accept any revisions to evolution (for example), simply exposes the 'religiousness' of their side. They are like 'traditionalists' or "Orthodox" atheists, lol.
You obviously don't realize that most americans are just uneducated protestants and catholics Vulkanom. also, please do a bit of research from a RELIABLE source before making a video like this. For the things you made up...WHEN YOU DIE YOU ROT IN THE GROUND!!!
God loves you. If you want proof, read NUMBERS 15. Evolution is from the DEVIL. Buy my book to find out more or just send me some money. It doesn't matter how much. Whatever you can afford. Say $10. That's so little compared to the rewards in Heaven, such as 72 virgins. Westside.
Your full of shit, and you sound like a fool, and not the type of fool "who doesn't belive in god" the one who sounds like an idiot! Angelina, and Jodie Foster are GOOD people. Angelina saves about 2 foriegn kids from aids or starvation, and that is two more lives saved. and when you skip the scientetst, and saw that part is boring, that shows how unitillegent you are.!!
good job defending christains saying that most of them arnet christains... people who are over religous like you turn out to be pyscho paths who dont have a life.. you want proof there is no god hmmmm.... who made god? if he was allways there.. why cant we save a step and say the universe was allways here... your saying that bill gates dosnt matter? lol your brain washed if you beleve in hell you probally should go there
You're an asshole... but I don't mean like an "asshole" by asshole I mean someone who makes half-assed youtube videos filled with tons of grammar errors.
I just can't believe how STUPID a person can be, excuse me let me take that back, I now know how stupid of a FOOL (in context) a person can be, just look at this sad of excuse video as a response for that work of art. It's just typical of a Christian way of thinking, no reasoning what so ever, just follow what a book or person says blindly. It's saddens my heart to know that now in the 21st century still we have persons like the one who did this video.
Este é o pior vídeo que eu vi na vida. Não importa se é escrito em português ou em inglês...o que você diz não tem razão, e todos os cristões do mundo parecem mais estúpidos a causa de você. Felicidades!
This is an awful video. Just really bad. Don't try to blame it on your poor English grammar; the things you say would be dumb in any language. All the Christians of the world look a little stupider now. Congratulations!
Even if "fools" are non believers it still puts Atheists in a lower position. When you see an Atheist you see a person who does not believe in the "real truth" and thus is a lower individual in religious society much to the similarities of black and white relationships in the 1800s to 1950s. Also Christianity shames other religions and gives them no room for disagreement. "Fools" is taken is context for both meanings of the word, believer or low IQ. It all makes me feel oppressed.
Bravo!! You have managed to FAIL in making your point because you CAN'T SPELL OR USE ENGLISH GRAMMAR PROPERLY. This is *par for the course* for an ignorant Christian. Virtually all of them can't spell. If they can't spell they most likely can't read. If they can't read or have poor reading skills then they most likely have never read their Bible either. Read it and you'll walk away from it. Fast. Conclusion: Can't spell? Then you're most likely a very ardent Christian.
"To have knowledge, you must first have reverence for the Lord. Fool(?) people have no respect for wisdom and refuse to learn."
i am an atheist, but i go to a uniting church full-on religious school. we study the bible in class. I've read that passage recently but evidently in a different Bible, cos guess what, mine says"Stupid people have no respect for wisdom and refuse to learn."
the original video interpreted it correctly... -_-
The piss-poor standard of spelling and grammar in this video tells us all we need to know about the connection between poor education and religious faith.
Your trying to claim people in jail lie about there beliefs? What would they gain from that? How can you claim it is out of context when you don't give a bible reference? And then use sensational text and flash to say Lie when your book says fool? And now your using numbers to prove what you disproved with numbers at the start.. What a farce. The hours is not dead he is just sleeping I guess.
Concerning the use of Carl Sagan's quotes in the end. Burden of proof is on those making the religious claims, not the people who question them. I'm sure its already been mentioned. Carl Sagan ftw.
...trash. How strange a crazy christian defying atheists and cite things for the bible(a book written by MEN). Pitiful, we don't care if you believe in Zeus, Jehova, Yu Yevon, Anubis, Odin, etc, etc, etc...In fact is kinda funny heard when you theist get nuts trying to justify the existence of a god with fool arguments such as: "...the bible said so or I can feel god in my heart"
75% of US christians aren't REAL christians? No matter what, it shows no contribution of morals AT ALL...because the percentages are equal. USE LOGIC. And with all of those different points of view, what makes you think that yours is right? btw, the Bible WAS written by man. You read a DIFFERENT SCRIPTURE of psalms! And I'm wondering if that's because you have trouble reading!!!
You said it...If you claim christanity in prison, well you don't count becuase you make us look bad...? WTF? Oh yeah and by the way out of all the mass murderers, serial killers, and rapist 95 % claim christanity and read the bible on a regular bassis
Holly shit are you *ever* FUCKING IGNORANT!!!! Your respons to the numner of people who don't believe in god is to point out that most people don't believe in ANOTHER GOD either? Then you say "This don't *proves* nothing" What hick grade school did you drop out of anyway? All that in just the FIRST 28 seconds!!!!
You ask us to prove he Doesn't exist, I am only going to remind you that the Burdon of proof falls on the xtians. Wine complain and twist the truth all you want we are still 36 million strong stateside, 1.1 Billion strong world wide and the 2nd fastest growing religion. It should also be noted that discrimination based on our beliefs is wrong, however there are still laws in more than 15 states banning atheist from taking political office.
This just shows how the bible can be misinterpreted in so many ways so if it was gods will to make the book then why did he make it so easy to misinterpret? and plus you are very inexperienced with spelling(are you still in elementary school?)so i should disregard this blasphemy and carry on.
The moment this guy came out with the "no true scotsman" fallacy, I could see that he was never going to come out with a substantial point... you can't just say "oh, all those Christians in jail might think they are Christians, and call themselves Christians, but they are not", just because they've done something bad. Atheists don't say "oh, that guy punched someone, so he's not an atheist" - and that's because we have, unlike this guy, both a brain and a spine!
Very weak response I must say. I also find it hard to see what the purpose is, in general, for a Christian, to reply to a video that is just saying, atheists are as good as other people, at least. End of it. The numbers were also correct in the original video. Your only point is on esegesis, but what's true is that that can be turned around in many ways, and has been also by Christians. It'd be an endless discussion.
Very weak response I must say. I also find it hard to see what the purpose is, in general, for a Christian, to reply to a video that is just saying, atheists are as good as other people, at least. End of it. The numbers were also correct in the original video. Your only point is on esegesis, but what's true is that that can be turned around in many ways, and has been also by Christians. It'd be an endless discussion.
Just watching it made me start to feel like my brain was melting. Was it made by a 12 year old?
I mean, if your going to go to the effort of making something like that atleast do it well. Spelling mistakes, bad grammer, poor use of a quote in the "context" bit, and some of the most child like reasoning possible.
Wrong. If you are a christian for example: then you believe that Hell will be made up of BILLIONS of people who believe in god and live good lives: Perhaps you've heard of muslims, Jews, Hindus?
Your god apparantly created billions of people just to confuse them into picking the wrong god, so he could torture them in hell for eternity? PLEASE.
this was not an attack on the bible, it was a response to society's assumptions about atheism. the quote in the bible may have been taken out of context, but the point was that despite the distrust or whatever one may have towards atheists, these examples of atheists might change your mind.
ok, so Marlon Brando drank; and ate too much icecream, but remember Hitler? He was teatotal. You should learn to write coherently. What's so easy to pick here, is that you scorn the human intellect.
You're joking right? You are not "responding" to anything, you are mimiking (you'd get an F in school for copying someone's work!) and then trying to add your "answers." Perhaps you need to take a remedial spelling class. You cannot even spell or think for yourself, so your stance is not surprising. This is typical of religion - having someone else doing the thinking and then not taking responsibility for your own actions! (the devil made you do it!)
haha yes and based on the number of spelling errors in your response i can see why you would take that ridiculous stand. any final presentation should be in its best form. this clearly is not. well written/published pieces of literature rarely has the ridiculous errors this video or your response has bc they actually take the time to finalize their work. any respected college professor would tell you the same.
grammar and syntax exist as a standard for communication so that all can understand the writing despite differences in style, diction, etc. as long as the point is being communicated and well articulated w/o punctuation there isn't really that strong a need for absolutely correct grammar. you have spelling, syntax, and other errors in your post, but i get the gist of it so it's ok. this youtube post IS more conversational and should not be put up to the standards of published works.
"dose'nt" the correct spelling is doesn't. how can someone even view you as a credible source if u fail to use appropriate grammar and spelling in your final presentation. simply pathetic.
They can veiw it as a crediable sorce becuase of the content that is protrayed. You must be some type of moron to think an entire sorce is wrong or cannot be veiw as right over a type-o. Using your logic, if a book has a type-o in it or a mispselled word its info is no longer valid. How shamefully wrong.
"Maybe this is why your prisons don't have much [sic] riots."
Perhaps if you actually knew what you were talking about, prison riots are somewhat frequent.
Also, the distinction about "nominal" Christians is fallacious. The number of actual Christians would be much lower than the 75% of Americans cited, especially depending on who you asked.
Because Christians share a common belief structure and choose to brand themselves as such. Basically, a Baptist IS_A Christian (to borrow computer science terminology), and so forth.
Your claim that George Bush's statements were taken out of context is false. He quite literally meant that atheists are not Americans. Unless he would choose to restate his opinion, that is.
As you asked, I won't mention the bad as hell spelling and grammer or the third grade reading level. And I'm sorry public school has failed you so badly. I'm glad I went to a quality Catholic one.
Also, If we were the only intelligent life in the universe it would be a terrible waste of space. I mean honestly, we're getting ready to go extict soon anyway.
You're logic is terrible. It resembles that of a seventh grader. I don't have time to go into all the specifics, but "for the love of God" watch the video yourself. In essence you said it was great that so many Christians are imprisioned, and that it was good because they are so peaceful(in prison). I'm holding back the rant right now, but Jesus Christ, kid, try to hit puberty before you go making videos about philosophical theology.
Nothing was taken out of context. What a bunch of garbage. 75% of Americans are not real christians. Twisted Muslims, whatever. What's your definition of a real christian? Nominal christians? You mean only evangelical assholes are real christians? Not many prison riots? What planet are you on? And by the way the bible was written by man. Learn something before taking on an argument.
33,000 different beliefs in a single supernatural "hero". Doesn't that tell you something? How could a divine "perfect" being be so clumsy or cruel to create a world of imperfect beings so he can watch them kill each other in his name? Pretty sick if you ask me.
Learn how to write proper English before you lecture me about my views, and stop construing facts while you're at it. Spending all your time praising "god" is a waste of life, you'll have wished you lived your life for yourself when you find out that there's no life after death.
The bloke who is trying to make his point would make it a lot better if he learned how to write properly.
sarahplum87 2 years ago
Methinks you missed the points made in the original video. Maybe it was over your head. Religion is for suckers, anyway.
sritger 2 years ago
Ah, a brilliantly conceptualized lack of understanding. Never mind, vulkanom, keep trying!
XGralgrathor 4 years ago
I saw that " the fool says, in his heart , "there is no god" " quote today in my philosophy text.
TheFlyingSwede 4 years ago
Bad people aren't bad because their religious/atheist. Some people use their beliefs to justify what they do, but they're just making up excuses. Most people, regardless of their beliefs, just kinda chill and go about their lives. People like to point fingers at big obvious evil figures and say "they're the other guy!" just to push their own beliefs.
aleceth 4 years ago
Think middle east. There are entire tribes and people in those areas who suppress the rights of their females, persecute homosexuals etcetera, not because they're particularly bad people - they would've been fine citizens in other, less religious countries - but because they grew up believing their sacred texts.
XGralgrathor 4 years ago
Those are people using religion to gain supremacy in their culture. Religion is a tool to them, a trump card they use to ensure that they're always right.
aleceth 4 years ago
"people using religion to gain supremacy"
I don't think so. Remember, we're talking about ENTIRE PEOPLES here. Each and every one of them a powerhungry madman willing to use his fellow humans as a stepping stone? Not bloody likely. I think this is because of cultural influences, and in these cases, religion is that cultural influence.
XGralgrathor 4 years ago
In these situations, the males are used to being on top and their religion gives them a means of supremacy over women. There may be select few men within their societies, but the overwhelming male majority hold on to religious dogma to remain on top. The bible distinctly puts women in an inferior position, but nations that are mostly christian don't have the same problem because the zeitgeist of women having rights caused them to ignore those parts of it as they ignore the kid killing parts.
aleceth 4 years ago
To give an example, in parts of the muslim world they say it's a sin to kill a virgin female, so to get around it they're rape her first. Similarly, in the bible there is a clause that would allow you to force a woman to marry you if you rape her and pay her father.
*Deuteronomy 22:28-29
Now i'm not saying i like or approve of any of these books, but it is the society that choses which parts to follow; it is the society that poisens the minds of the children. The books are just means to an end.
aleceth 4 years ago
I love at the end you skip the civil rights leader and donated millions the charity part.
Whoops can't argue that so I guess I'll just skip it.
tmas5656 4 years ago
Yeah Christians do good, like Hitler, Pinochet etc... they were good model Christians... please respond to why in the bible god promotes murder to unfaithful and those who entice you to leave your god ? why does god promote slavery ? I thought the bible was a book of morality...
emoblowsass 4 years ago
God allowed murder people lived under the Law (OT) and not under Grace (NT); And the slavery back then was different from how we think of it today. Back then, it was willing servantry and labor to survive under a roof and food. Not like the blacks being caught, sold, and forced to toil.
"He who kidnaps a man, whether he sells him or he is found in his possession, shall surely be put to death." (Exodus 21:16)
wordkeeper 4 years ago
Hitler and Pinochet were NOT Christians. They may have CLAIMED to be Christians, but their lifestyles did not reflect it. Did Hitler, for example, love his neighbor and pray for those who cursed him? No. Did he take care of the orphans and widows? No. Did he follow the teaching "but I tell you if anyone is so much as angry with his brother, he is already subject to judgement [of murder]." No. So, I'm failing to see how Christianity is to blame for Hitler.
jwetsel 4 years ago
No one who is Christian lives the Christian life, its a fact. Every Christian has premarital sex, which is forbidden in the bible. They all cheat on their wives, not to mention the refugee
of pedophiles AKA Catholic Church. Go to death row and see how many in there are atheists... maybe 1% ? all the rest are christians or of islamic faith. Hitler united the people under
Christianity to popularize his war.
emoblowsass 4 years ago
Are you sure about that? My own two parents are devout, fundamentalist Protestants who have been married for nearly thirty years. They were virgins when they were married and they have always stayed faithful to each other. ALWAYS! See how dangerous it is to use words like "all", "every", "none" "nobody", "everybody", and "no one"?
jwetsel 4 years ago
Doesnt matter what I say, your religious, which makes you oblivious to concrete facts.
emoblowsass 4 years ago
And no, it DOES matter what you say. I have never rejected atheism but I have also never seen any evidence that the universe can come into exisence without a God. And how can you expect me to take you seriously when you spew out crap like "Hitler was a Christian" and "no Christians are faithful to their spouses"? You think I'M ignoring concrete facts? Religion can't hold a candle to people like Mao, Stalin, Pol Pot, and Kim Jong-Il. Atheism is the worst killer of all time; not religion!
jwetsel 4 years ago
Yeah because more people have died because of Atheism than religion. Christian missionaries go to Africa and preach that condom use is sinful,
how is this bad ? Well in Africa around 2 million people die of aids every year. THERES GREEN leprechauns FARTING ON EACH OTHER IN THE MIDDLE OF THE SUN... since you cant deny it, it must be true ? is that your logic ? If it is I question your power to reason.
emoblowsass 4 years ago
Do you have any evidence that all 2 million died because Christians told them not to use condoms? Did you ever consider that maybe Africans can't AFFORD condoms in the first place? No, of course you didn't. . .
For some reason, you are looking only at the faults of Christians without considering that we are the first ones to jump at an opportunity to go down to the third world in the first place to build houses for the homeless and feed the hungry. Atheists, as a whole, do nothing similar.
jwetsel 4 years ago
So you think its alright to preach to a nation where 2 million die of aids each year that condom use is sinful and just let them get aids, then give it to their child.... wow you're one great christian.
emoblowsass 4 years ago
Thank you for twisting my words by setting up a straw man. I'm pretty sure you have managed to use every informal fallacy in logic in this discussion. You know why I can't stand atheists? Because of what it does to their attitude. You're abrasive, arrogant, condescending, smug, slanderous, sinful, illogical and proud of it.
Why should I continue talking to you?
jwetsel 4 years ago
I'm pretty sure I never said you have to prove that God doesn't exist. I said that I would like to see evidence of the POSSIBILITY that God doesn't exist. By this I mean that if you can't explain how matter, energy, and order created themselves, or how life arose from non-life, then how can I consider atheism a valid belief system?
(Btw, if you do show this to me, you will be the first and only person to do so!)
jwetsel 4 years ago
Thats the problem with religious people, they are arrogant like you; thinking they know life's mysteries, waving a book that is morally and scientifically wrong, but that doesnt matter to you right... you don't pay attention to facts. Keep thinking the world is 6000 years old and that you were created from a God even though evidence shows otherwise.
emoblowsass 4 years ago
I didn't releize that English wasn't this guy's native toughe. Sorry if a posted a comment ogainst that.
PinkFloydNirvana 4 years ago
you may have a good point that not all christians are the same. some christians are great people, some are nuts ...BUT, many of your other points are wayyy off. YES, the bible is calling all athiests fools. in all of your quotes, its saying that a person cannot be truly wise without believing in god. that is calling athiests fools. its also saying that no matter what good a person does in his or her life, if they dont believe in god, they are damned.
freqimann 4 years ago
all of the "fools" listed in the video do not "show off". you are belittling their accomplishments and contributions to mankind. The reason they are famous is because of their accomplishments, not because they simply want to be famous.
freqimann 4 years ago
the point of that video, which seems to escape you, is that there are many athiests out there who are good, kind, and intelligent people. "He provides true wisdom for those who are righteous and honest." can you honestly tell me that those men and women are not? even if they dont believe, they still do serve god by many christian definitions.
freqimann 4 years ago
in response to the end of the video... "show me your proves!" (im assuming you mean 'proof'.) i will turn Carl Sagan's quote against you... "extraordinary claims demand extraordinary profs." i would like you to prove to me that god does exist. can you show me something that proves his/her/its existence that cant be explained by random chance or pseudoscience? if not... there is no proof god exist, just like their is no proof that he/she/it doesnt.
freqimann 4 years ago
Damn, dude! If you are going to spend hours creating and editing a video and post it for the world to see, have a friend who can read and write proofread it for you.
People like you make "Christian" and "ignorant" seem synonymous. You weaken your case with every attempt to defend it.
MarcWhitaker 4 years ago
1)It states "a god" not "God" meaning deity.
2) What gives the bible the right to rewrite the meaning of the word 'fool'?
3) George Bush senior's comments are the epitome of American's view of Athiesm.
4) This fails to address the fundemental argument of 'Athiest' which is; athiests can be decent and intelligent people and there is nothing wrong with refusing to follow the Bible. I've given this a rating of one as zero is not an option.
SPAG22 4 years ago
Your kidding right, the point wasto prove that athiest weren't horrible people. So you say don't put everyone in a bag when the man who made the video is just syaing look at yourselfs. If you open-minded, you'll see this video (Atheist) was not meant for you.
geo171991 4 years ago
Wow what a crap video.
civwarfan 4 years ago
Why are atheists a bunch of idiots?
They claim that science cannot prove God's existence.
of course , it cant. Science is limited in the material world.
While God is in the realm of the spiritual world.
two different things.
Scientists cannot prove that God does not exist.
MATERIAL ... SPIRITUAL
body ... mind
matter ... soul
ATHEISM is a fallacy...
dakopisot 4 years ago
exactly. But u know they'll just respond with something like "God still isn't real" or something. It only proves their intellectual paucity.
wordkeeper 4 years ago
Though science has proven many verses wrong (earth-centered universe, earth's age being thousands of years, etc.)
PinkFloydNirvana 4 years ago
God hangs a circular earth over nothing, He made innumerable stars, and He expands all of Space. And your response to how these simple, nomadic people understood these futuristic concepts and wrote them in the Bible, is what again? Beginner's luck? God perhaps!, -who said that He guided the Biblical writers with His Spirit.
wordkeeper 4 years ago
boooo
whoisthesteve 4 years ago
oh, because there's a kids book talking about replicator cells and DNA origination...hahaha. Must be thrilling to decide which nucleotide to color in. And besides, please share ur version of where DNA came from. Then argue.
wordkeeper 4 years ago
There are many fossils that prove that the earth is at least a billion years old you dumbass.
PinkFloydNirvana 4 years ago
Take your case to the scientists who dispute that claim.
wordkeeper 4 years ago
STOP TRYING TO GET ATHEISTS TO PROVE THERE IS NO GOD! Do you not understand the concept of innocent until proven guilty? What if we just arrested people and forced them to prove that they didn't do anything without proving that they did? Besides, it is impossible to disprove god because god has been designed to be an unfalsifyable argument. THAT'S NOT A GOOD THING.
macman13 4 years ago
Trrorists are absolute bonefied muslims, they live by the koran.
macman13 4 years ago
If I call an atheist slime, a sack of shit, a dirt ball, or lower than the bottom of my shoe, would I really be stretching their beliefs, if after all, we all call from the same compost pile?
Nah,... Earth dust forming a DNA molecule all by itself is what I call a little silly, -for all you "rational thinkers" out there.
wordkeeper 4 years ago
Your right, A big man in the sky created a guy and created a woman using ne of the guy's ribs. It's quite rational and takes years of knowledge to understand that.
Chainedorlo 4 years ago
Did you know the rib is the only bone that grows back?
wordkeeper 4 years ago
I love this video. But I hate when critics hack away at the Old Testament over and over and over again. The OT is DONE AWAY WITH when Jesus brought the New Covenant!!! We don't have to stone people, we don't have to make sacrifices, etc. Jesus is called "The Lamb" for being the ultimate sacrifice for mankind. Jeez, even when God makes it easier, pompous atheism just ruins it for themselves.
wordkeeper 4 years ago
If Atheists are Humanists and are free thinkers, meaning that they can choose to believe in whatever thing that makes sense to them, then what if an Atheist decides that his/her way of being happy is by killing others, what is there to stop him/her?
What if these "social animals" decide to lead a life in a "non-social animal way". What is there in Atheism to supress such kind of moral behavior and encourage a "social animal" way of life? Where is then the accountability in Atheism.
YourPurposeInLife 4 years ago
We can't choose to believe anything we want! where did you get that from? Just because Atheists don't get the morals from the Bible doesn't mean we don't have any! "Morals" evolved along with humans. Humans evolved in small groups of 50-100 and we needed to cooperate to survive. This simple altruism evolved into our complex morals. The prison population in the US is 75% Christian and only .2% Atheist.
pandstar 4 years ago
You owned Mr. Biblical Morals. Have a Pastry. :)
Chainedorlo 4 years ago
And by the way, if you got your morals from the Bible, when was the last time you stoned an adulterer or someone that worked on the Sabbath? Letting those Morals slip a little aren't you?
pandstar 4 years ago
The fact is God's laws are absolute. If we believe man makes the rules, then really, anything is allowable as long as it's in popular interest. The reason God makes better sense is because His laws can't be changed. But now, the world tolerates witchcraft, homosexuality, abortion, etc. Why? Because these laws can slip beneath the wire of PRACTICAL infractions, while atheists just keep the "important" ones.
wordkeeper 4 years ago
"Show me your proves!"
No. *You* show me *your* proves.
Which sounds more extraordinary?:
We all live in a systematic, yet mysterious universe which we can learn to appreciate through science. The evidence is there before you and is waiting to be found.
We live on a planet magically created in 7 days, 6000 years ago, and are governed by an invisible, all-seeing sky daddy who wrote a book that is absolutely true. We don't need evidence for this because our parents told us so.
tacopylas 4 years ago
"Christians have moral marriages."
This assumes that atheists don't. You never say what's wrong with the Open-Relationship System. It's apparently just fine, since people have more successful marriages by it, assuming that all atheists use the system.
tacopylas 4 years ago
What the hell is a "real Christian"? Somebody who believes in the divinty of Jesus, only *more so*? Don't try to bullshit your way into saying that everybody who doesn't give a positive image to Christianity is not a Christian. And how are radical Muslims twisting their religion when they are expressing Islam's tendency to attack other religions through violence? "Islam" may mean "peace", but that sure as hell isn't what it brings.
tacopylas 4 years ago
Yeah you conveniently skipped Bill Gates and Warren Buffet there, two of the biggest philanthropists in the world. Those two people alone make that bible passage ridiculous.
lornloxor 4 years ago
SHUT THE FUCK UP YOU BIBLE-THUMPING MUTHERFUCKER! <yes i can say that to you because im an athiest,if i was a christian id have pray for hours and probably have to BUY A FUCKING INDULGENCE FOR THAT. Anyway....there is no proof that god is real hell christians dont even have proof "we have faith" not "we know" <cause they dont know!
Rozzrocks666 4 years ago
Do you know beyond a shadow of a doubt that god isnt real? you cant know. there is no way until you die. so i wouldnt judge until you can know for sure
jordaniac89 4 years ago
Do you know beyond a shadow of a doubt that Vishnu isn't real? If you say yes,the only reason is that you're indoctrinated into Christianity. If you were indoctrinated into Hinduism, you'd believe in Vishnu and think that Christianity is wrong. Oh, and by indoctrination I really mean brainwashed.
pandstar 4 years ago
Yes but my point is that atheist believe in no God, and all that they have is an assumption. Let me ask you this though. What if you are wrong. If I am wrong then I have nothing to lose I will be just like you when i die. If you are wrong you are going to hell. I could disprove every single argument fo atheism you throw at me but i dont have enough room on here
jordaniac89 4 years ago
Atheist have much more than assumption, we have observation and facts. What if you're wrong about Christianity and it turns out Islam is right. You won't be "just like me", you'll burn in Jahannum for internity. You're making an assumption that the only 2 choices are atheism and Christianity. You're an atheist when it comes to every other religion besides yours.
pandstar 4 years ago
Do you know the defenition of atheist? You can't be atheist against other religions except your own. ATHEISTS HAVE NO RELGION. Use the word correctly. Secondly, if islam is right , and if you are atheist then I will be "just like you", because we are both going to Jahannum. And what facts do you have that atheism is true? You use science but all evidence points to intelligent design. I would list the facts but it would take up the entire page.
jordaniac89 4 years ago
YOu missed my point! Of course I misused the word atheist on purpose. Let's put it this way. there are thousands of religions on Earth but you disbelieve all of them except one, so in effect you are an unbeliever with respects to all but one religion. I just happen to be an unbeliever when ot comes to ALL religions. I just take my unbelief one step past yours.
pandstar 4 years ago
The facts that support Atheism are a total lack of provable, verifiable and testable facts FOR there being a God (I refuse to use the term "intelligent design")! If I were to be shown provable, verifiable and testable facts supporting a God, I would change my views. See, I have the ability to change my views with proof. You, however, have to ignore so much real science to continue to believe in the supernatural.
pandstar 4 years ago
My friend I have studied both sides with an open mind (unlike you obviously because need to "be shown provable facts supporting a god") scientifically, not biblically i might add, and have formed my views from that. Are you aware that as far as evolution is concerned the evolutionists' two main tools, transitional forms and the geologic column, exist nowhere on earth? And in his book, Darwin used the word presume and suppose more than 250 times? you have theory, thats all
jordaniac89 4 years ago
Which "both sides" are you referring to? I asked you before you decided to become a Christian, did you study every other religion on the planet? If not, how are you sure you have the right one? Even the major ones? I'm asking because, when looked at from the outside (a non-believer) none of them make any more sense than any other. Without quoting the Bible, convince me that Christianity makes any more sense than any other religion.
pandstar 4 years ago
First of all by saying I studied both sides I mean Atheism and Christianity, because these are the two "religions" if you want to call atheism a religion, in question. Secondly, I am not trying to convince you that Christianity makes more sense than every other religion, just atheism, because once again that is the "religion" in question in this debate. Thirdly, think about it. And I can disprove atheism without quoting from the Bible, by disproving a major aspect of it, evolution.
jordaniac89 4 years ago
Even if you could disprove a major aspect of evolution (I'm waiting), that still would not prove that the Christian God (or any other God) exists. Making the leap to a super complex God that is somehow outside of time and space is way more unbelievable than any theory science now has. If you want to make that leap without proof, I can't argue with that, you're beyond logic.
pandstar 4 years ago
Look, this debate is getting absolutely nowhere. I have the facts (and no I am not talking about the Bible) and if you want them I will get them to you. If not then this debate is over and let's just agree to disagree
jordaniac89 4 years ago
where the hell did u get that figure from. Most science supports evolution.
PinkFloydNirvana 4 years ago
what figure? I would be glad to show you because unlike you I have facts and resources to back them up
jordaniac89 4 years ago
First show me the evidense of intelligent design
PinkFloydNirvana 4 years ago
"You use science but all evidence points to intelligent design." ARE YOU FUCKING KIDDING ME!?!?!?!?!??!? There's fucking fossil evidence to show how old earth is plus chimps share 99 or 98% of our DNA. Don't tell me that bullshit about the Protein DNA. Poor excuse to defend yourself from your myths and fairy tales.
Chainedorlo 4 years ago
Owned someone again.
Chainedorlo 4 years ago
Jordaniac89, pleased to meet you. Just wanted u to know that pandstar is just another one of the misleading Dawkins-possie who makes assumptions on indoctrination. The truth is atheist Madelyn Murray O'hair (founder of American Atheists) disowned her son because he believed in God and became a pastor. Indoctrination, or more atheist bullshit? Don't listen to atheism; they sell you nothing but deceit.
wordkeeper 4 years ago
My dad is an atheist and he saved a man from drowning in the water. How dare you characterize all of us atheist by using bad example.
PinkFloydNirvana 4 years ago
Christians have raised money for charities, built wells in Africa, sheltered the needy and given food to the poor for years and years. I am no different than the many of you who "dare to characterize all of us Christians by using bad examples."
wordkeeper 4 years ago
True christian have done good but atheist do good too. Have you ever heard of Bill Gates?
PinkFloydNirvana 4 years ago
I, nor the Bible, ever said that Christians and atheists can't do good works, because they both can.
However, God defines goodness because that is His nature. He does not seek it like we do. He Is It! And second of all, Bill Gates is more of an agnostic than an atheist.
"I don't know if there's a god or not, but I think religious principles are quite valid," -Bill Gates.
wordkeeper 4 years ago
Good to meet you too wordkeeper. It is good to know that there are more like me who are free thinkers. Atheist may not agree, but as non atheist (those with any religion) are more free thinkers than they are because they accept what scientists tell them with out doing research
jordaniac89 4 years ago
oh I know. Once you challenge the status quo, you will lose your career and reputation. But seeing that the humanists refuse to accept any revisions to evolution (for example), simply exposes the 'religiousness' of their side. They are like 'traditionalists' or "Orthodox" atheists, lol.
wordkeeper 4 years ago
you have yet to show me any evidence either.
PinkFloydNirvana 4 years ago
God makes it clear that evidence is not the issue. Jesus performed many miracles before the disciples' eyes, and very few followed Him to the cross.
Our evidence will never be good enough for atheists, because they're not looking for the Truth.
The Bible, the testimonies, the miracles, the crucifixion, will never be enough.
wordkeeper 4 years ago
Sorry but i want to see evidence. And sorry about calling you a dumbass. That's usually out of my character.
PinkFloydNirvana 4 years ago
You obviously don't realize that most americans are just uneducated protestants and catholics Vulkanom. also, please do a bit of research from a RELIABLE source before making a video like this. For the things you made up...WHEN YOU DIE YOU ROT IN THE GROUND!!!
Tsukae 4 years ago
God loves you. If you want proof, read NUMBERS 15. Evolution is from the DEVIL. Buy my book to find out more or just send me some money. It doesn't matter how much. Whatever you can afford. Say $10. That's so little compared to the rewards in Heaven, such as 72 virgins. Westside.
VenomFanqX 4 years ago
dick!
TheDoorsFan1232 4 years ago
Someone really doesn't understand the Sagan quote about extraordinary claims. lol
God is an extraordinary claim. Prove it. And no, "The bible says so" isn't proof, jackleg.
phlyergirl 4 years ago
Your first point was a Scotsman's Fallacy...I stopped taking you seriously even before the tragic spelling and grammar kicked in.
moronicnotions 4 years ago
Might want to check your spelling and grammar in the video buddy.
jrapley 4 years ago
Your full of shit, and you sound like a fool, and not the type of fool "who doesn't belive in god" the one who sounds like an idiot! Angelina, and Jodie Foster are GOOD people. Angelina saves about 2 foriegn kids from aids or starvation, and that is two more lives saved. and when you skip the scientetst, and saw that part is boring, that shows how unitillegent you are.!!
vanessa0brckn 4 years ago
WOW! MY GOSH! WHAT an amazing video response!
I salute you VULKANOM! Perfect! just perfectly done with God's holy spirit...
GOD EXISTS!
cheers!
lightyears888 4 years ago
For someone who dares to call someone unintelligent, you can't even spell the word! -Sorry Vanessa, u look like the bigger fool here babe.
wordkeeper 4 years ago
good job defending christains saying that most of them arnet christains... people who are over religous like you turn out to be pyscho paths who dont have a life.. you want proof there is no god hmmmm.... who made god? if he was allways there.. why cant we save a step and say the universe was allways here... your saying that bill gates dosnt matter? lol your brain washed if you beleve in hell you probally should go there
thirdpupil 4 years ago
A SIMPLE LOGIC:
1. Atheists DO NOT believe God exists.
2. If God DID NOT exist, then there would be NO atheists.
3. Therefore, God MUST exists.
See? It is simple logic! God must exist!
GOD DOES SIMPLY EXIST!!!
Cheers!
lightyears888 4 years ago
A SIMPLE LOGIC:
1. If there's a God, then there's hard evidense to prove there's a God.
2. There's no hard evidense to prove there's a God.
3. Therefore, there is no God.
See? It's simple logic! God must not exist!
GOD SIMPLY DOESN'T EXIST!!!
Cheers!
PinkFloydNirvana 4 years ago
You're an asshole... but I don't mean like an "asshole" by asshole I mean someone who makes half-assed youtube videos filled with tons of grammar errors.
Shaun1018 4 years ago
lol, the reason why prison riots are down because they are 75% Christian. What a fucking load.
Shaun1018 4 years ago
I just can't believe how STUPID a person can be, excuse me let me take that back, I now know how stupid of a FOOL (in context) a person can be, just look at this sad of excuse video as a response for that work of art. It's just typical of a Christian way of thinking, no reasoning what so ever, just follow what a book or person says blindly. It's saddens my heart to know that now in the 21st century still we have persons like the one who did this video.
jorgeantoniomartir 4 years ago
funny, I think this video STRENGTHENS the atheist argument.
zekelogan 4 years ago
your a fuck wit
this is the normal christian reactionary squirming that would be expected. like "fools, but they don't actually mean fools"
mathmyster 4 years ago
Este é o pior vídeo que eu vi na vida. Não importa se é escrito em português ou em inglês...o que você diz não tem razão, e todos os cristões do mundo parecem mais estúpidos a causa de você. Felicidades!
This is an awful video. Just really bad. Don't try to blame it on your poor English grammar; the things you say would be dumb in any language. All the Christians of the world look a little stupider now. Congratulations!
slammdunc23 4 years ago
Great video! Keep up the good work. God bless you =]
sammygdawg 4 years ago
Even if "fools" are non believers it still puts Atheists in a lower position. When you see an Atheist you see a person who does not believe in the "real truth" and thus is a lower individual in religious society much to the similarities of black and white relationships in the 1800s to 1950s. Also Christianity shames other religions and gives them no room for disagreement. "Fools" is taken is context for both meanings of the word, believer or low IQ. It all makes me feel oppressed.
zamptor 4 years ago
great point on the whole "fools" part; excellent
biggmassuh 4 years ago
I know, since when was the Bible the Dictionary? These Christains actually think they can define words from the Bible, sad excuse.
Chainedorlo 4 years ago
Wow. Nice grammar.
steveganREDUX 4 years ago
Bravo!! You have managed to FAIL in making your point because you CAN'T SPELL OR USE ENGLISH GRAMMAR PROPERLY. This is *par for the course* for an ignorant Christian. Virtually all of them can't spell. If they can't spell they most likely can't read. If they can't read or have poor reading skills then they most likely have never read their Bible either. Read it and you'll walk away from it. Fast. Conclusion: Can't spell? Then you're most likely a very ardent Christian.
KestrelK1 4 years ago
Bless you all.
davepeter 4 years ago
Bless especially slicedoranges, -he's not a happy camper.
wordkeeper 4 years ago
What do you say about the really rich donaters too? I mean, you skip them lol.
TiedLaces 4 years ago
"Maybe this is why your prisons don't have much riots" Great insight.
chadwalker68 4 years ago
Are you kidding?
Can you say... brainwashed.
Remember slavery...KKK. enough said.
NEXT!
Do you remember God before you were born.
I bet you wont remember him after your dead....
sleeptakesover 4 years ago
"To have knowledge, you must first have reverence for the Lord. Fool(?) people have no respect for wisdom and refuse to learn."
i am an atheist, but i go to a uniting church full-on religious school. we study the bible in class. I've read that passage recently but evidently in a different Bible, cos guess what, mine says"Stupid people have no respect for wisdom and refuse to learn."
the original video interpreted it correctly... -_-
mmmmcoffee 4 years ago
The piss-poor standard of spelling and grammar in this video tells us all we need to know about the connection between poor education and religious faith.
nogodsplease 5 years ago
you want proof, read A Demon Haunted World, Billions and Billions, Comso, etc.
gooyzit 5 years ago
Your trying to claim people in jail lie about there beliefs? What would they gain from that? How can you claim it is out of context when you don't give a bible reference? And then use sensational text and flash to say Lie when your book says fool? And now your using numbers to prove what you disproved with numbers at the start.. What a farce. The hours is not dead he is just sleeping I guess.
Tacos25n28 5 years ago
Even if this was a good rebuttal, your grammar was horrible and couldn't be taken seriously anyway.
califOrnicationxx 5 years ago
You fail.
prodigylp 5 years ago
This was a weak rebutle at best, nice try though.
ClemClemens1111 5 years ago
What...
This video doesn't even make sense, this is shit, even If i was the most christian person in the world, I wouldn't be able to decipher this tripe.
2good4name 5 years ago
Concerning the use of Carl Sagan's quotes in the end. Burden of proof is on those making the religious claims, not the people who question them. I'm sure its already been mentioned. Carl Sagan ftw.
RevolvingRevolver 5 years ago
...trash. How strange a crazy christian defying atheists and cite things for the bible(a book written by MEN). Pitiful, we don't care if you believe in Zeus, Jehova, Yu Yevon, Anubis, Odin, etc, etc, etc...In fact is kinda funny heard when you theist get nuts trying to justify the existence of a god with fool arguments such as: "...the bible said so or I can feel god in my heart"
titoyepezliut 5 years ago
Limited space, so:
Immoral marriages last longer than moral ones? You're having a laugh! And even if you were right, does this mean YOUR morality is on its head?
Nice of you to skip past Brando and ignore the $67 billion donated by Buffet and Gates. Now who's abusing context?
Prove that the Aztec god Huitzilopochtli doesn't exist or I won't bother disproving your flavour of god.
marakith 5 years ago
75% of US christians aren't REAL christians? No matter what, it shows no contribution of morals AT ALL...because the percentages are equal. USE LOGIC. And with all of those different points of view, what makes you think that yours is right? btw, the Bible WAS written by man. You read a DIFFERENT SCRIPTURE of psalms! And I'm wondering if that's because you have trouble reading!!!
Darxtarox 5 years ago
wow... you have got to be the biggest hipocritical piece of sht... on planet earth... he's fallatical, more like you are retarded
darris321 5 years ago
Man, the christians gotta have someone smarter than this to their retort.
tsferg 5 years ago
You said it...If you claim christanity in prison, well you don't count becuase you make us look bad...? WTF? Oh yeah and by the way out of all the mass murderers, serial killers, and rapist 95 % claim christanity and read the bible on a regular bassis
ne014x 5 years ago
Holly shit are you *ever* FUCKING IGNORANT!!!! Your respons to the numner of people who don't believe in god is to point out that most people don't believe in ANOTHER GOD either? Then you say "This don't *proves* nothing" What hick grade school did you drop out of anyway? All that in just the FIRST 28 seconds!!!!
hyperkinetic 5 years ago
You ask us to prove he Doesn't exist, I am only going to remind you that the Burdon of proof falls on the xtians. Wine complain and twist the truth all you want we are still 36 million strong stateside, 1.1 Billion strong world wide and the 2nd fastest growing religion. It should also be noted that discrimination based on our beliefs is wrong, however there are still laws in more than 15 states banning atheist from taking political office.
ne014x 5 years ago
This is pathetic, you're only proving how ignorant you are. "Let's skip the boring part" Dumbass, go likc your false god's balls.
Trabdood 5 years ago
lmao, yea man, go suck balls, ATHEISTS FTW WOOOT
junkiejbomb 5 years ago
This just shows how the bible can be misinterpreted in so many ways so if it was gods will to make the book then why did he make it so easy to misinterpret? and plus you are very inexperienced with spelling(are you still in elementary school?)so i should disregard this blasphemy and carry on.
SasukeFan951 5 years ago
The moment this guy came out with the "no true scotsman" fallacy, I could see that he was never going to come out with a substantial point... you can't just say "oh, all those Christians in jail might think they are Christians, and call themselves Christians, but they are not", just because they've done something bad. Atheists don't say "oh, that guy punched someone, so he's not an atheist" - and that's because we have, unlike this guy, both a brain and a spine!
SovietChris 5 years ago
So, most of these arguments just show how wrong at least some (if not all) you christians must be...
Who are you to judge who has the right to say they are a christian?
If there are 33,000 different views to what christianity should be, then surelay at least 32,999 of them MUST be WRONG. They cant all be right.
Surely the extrodinary claim that there is a God needs far more proof than the (more obvious) fact that there isnt one?!!
vaderag 5 years ago
weak
KoutetsuTenshin 5 years ago
the dude can't even speel LOL!
razorflown 5 years ago
Kneethur Ken Yew. Sorry about that, I just hate it, when people point out mistakes that they themselves also make.
Dati666 5 years ago
Very weak response I must say. I also find it hard to see what the purpose is, in general, for a Christian, to reply to a video that is just saying, atheists are as good as other people, at least. End of it. The numbers were also correct in the original video. Your only point is on esegesis, but what's true is that that can be turned around in many ways, and has been also by Christians. It'd be an endless discussion.
schrodcat 5 years ago
Very weak response I must say. I also find it hard to see what the purpose is, in general, for a Christian, to reply to a video that is just saying, atheists are as good as other people, at least. End of it. The numbers were also correct in the original video. Your only point is on esegesis, but what's true is that that can be turned around in many ways, and has been also by Christians. It'd be an endless discussion.
schrodcat 5 years ago
Wow, that was...well....frankly....crap.
Just watching it made me start to feel like my brain was melting. Was it made by a 12 year old?
I mean, if your going to go to the effort of making something like that atleast do it well. Spelling mistakes, bad grammer, poor use of a quote in the "context" bit, and some of the most child like reasoning possible.
vejbok 5 years ago
What a waste of time and effort, vulkanom.
Why quote scripture as evidence when atheists disregard the bible as a load of shit?
Think about it. Then kill yourself.
timchilli 5 years ago
i keep having to pinch myself to make sure this is serious
rubey2378 5 years ago
the description says: detailed answer, point by point... "so what?" "lets skip to the last" "they are not real christians" -- not very detailed.
it doesnt even get the point of the video it replied to.
deathwish123456789 5 years ago
Christians deny the existence of 99.999% of all gods who have ever been described by man;
Atheists deny 100%
Your argument is so flawed that you must be joking.
btw: Muslims are montheists too...but they are going to hell based on YOUR religion. And YOU are going to hell based on theirs.
Your video has violated the most basic rules of logic and you have insulted my intelligence. Thanks.... thanks for wasting my time.
ginoggg 5 years ago
LOL, Athiest will make up 100% of Hells population.
SlickDust 5 years ago
hell dont exist. lol
Rikusaki 5 years ago
Wrong. If you are a christian for example: then you believe that Hell will be made up of BILLIONS of people who believe in god and live good lives: Perhaps you've heard of muslims, Jews, Hindus?
Your god apparantly created billions of people just to confuse them into picking the wrong god, so he could torture them in hell for eternity? PLEASE.
ginoggg 5 years ago
Why put all atheist in the same bag?
MAN wrote the Bible, just like a MAN said that 'terrible, predjudice, and shameful statement'
An extroidinary claim could be that God exist, show me YOUR extroidinary proof.
I'm also glad that you decided to show two things that one actor did wrong, as your proof for why all atheist are vile. Ignorance.
elinpearce 5 years ago
this was not an attack on the bible, it was a response to society's assumptions about atheism. the quote in the bible may have been taken out of context, but the point was that despite the distrust or whatever one may have towards atheists, these examples of atheists might change your mind.
simus0505 5 years ago
ok, so Marlon Brando drank; and ate too much icecream, but remember Hitler? He was teatotal. You should learn to write coherently. What's so easy to pick here, is that you scorn the human intellect.
valland55 5 years ago
You're joking right? You are not "responding" to anything, you are mimiking (you'd get an F in school for copying someone's work!) and then trying to add your "answers." Perhaps you need to take a remedial spelling class. You cannot even spell or think for yourself, so your stance is not surprising. This is typical of religion - having someone else doing the thinking and then not taking responsibility for your own actions! (the devil made you do it!)
LeeLeeOne 5 years ago
Im sorry but the Atheist video is far better than this crap!
DemonProducer 5 years ago
haha yes and based on the number of spelling errors in your response i can see why you would take that ridiculous stand. any final presentation should be in its best form. this clearly is not. well written/published pieces of literature rarely has the ridiculous errors this video or your response has bc they actually take the time to finalize their work. any respected college professor would tell you the same.
cp5523 5 years ago
grammar and syntax exist as a standard for communication so that all can understand the writing despite differences in style, diction, etc. as long as the point is being communicated and well articulated w/o punctuation there isn't really that strong a need for absolutely correct grammar. you have spelling, syntax, and other errors in your post, but i get the gist of it so it's ok. this youtube post IS more conversational and should not be put up to the standards of published works.
simus0505 5 years ago
"dose'nt" the correct spelling is doesn't. how can someone even view you as a credible source if u fail to use appropriate grammar and spelling in your final presentation. simply pathetic.
cp5523 5 years ago
They can veiw it as a crediable sorce becuase of the content that is protrayed. You must be some type of moron to think an entire sorce is wrong or cannot be veiw as right over a type-o. Using your logic, if a book has a type-o in it or a mispselled word its info is no longer valid. How shamefully wrong.
87BII 5 years ago
"this don't proves nothing" obviously u never learned how to correctly form sentences in grade school
cp5523 5 years ago
Show me your proves? right...
mattmcmurry 5 years ago
*a-hem*
"Maybe this is why your prisons don't have much [sic] riots."
Perhaps if you actually knew what you were talking about, prison riots are somewhat frequent.
Also, the distinction about "nominal" Christians is fallacious. The number of actual Christians would be much lower than the 75% of Americans cited, especially depending on who you asked.
DoomCenturion 5 years ago
"...why say we are all the same?"
Because Christians share a common belief structure and choose to brand themselves as such. Basically, a Baptist IS_A Christian (to borrow computer science terminology), and so forth.
Your claim that George Bush's statements were taken out of context is false. He quite literally meant that atheists are not Americans. Unless he would choose to restate his opinion, that is.
DoomCenturion 5 years ago
As you asked, I won't mention the bad as hell spelling and grammer or the third grade reading level. And I'm sorry public school has failed you so badly. I'm glad I went to a quality Catholic one.
Also, If we were the only intelligent life in the universe it would be a terrible waste of space. I mean honestly, we're getting ready to go extict soon anyway.
antz1290 5 years ago
You're logic is terrible. It resembles that of a seventh grader. I don't have time to go into all the specifics, but "for the love of God" watch the video yourself. In essence you said it was great that so many Christians are imprisioned, and that it was good because they are so peaceful(in prison). I'm holding back the rant right now, but Jesus Christ, kid, try to hit puberty before you go making videos about philosophical theology.
antz1290 5 years ago
God, easter bunny, spiderman, all fiction.
Nothing was taken out of context. What a bunch of garbage. 75% of Americans are not real christians. Twisted Muslims, whatever. What's your definition of a real christian? Nominal christians? You mean only evangelical assholes are real christians? Not many prison riots? What planet are you on? And by the way the bible was written by man. Learn something before taking on an argument.
Show me your "proves".
RockinRickChicago 5 years ago
33,000 different beliefs in a single supernatural "hero". Doesn't that tell you something? How could a divine "perfect" being be so clumsy or cruel to create a world of imperfect beings so he can watch them kill each other in his name? Pretty sick if you ask me.
SeekTheTruthXX 5 years ago
Learn how to write proper English before you lecture me about my views, and stop construing facts while you're at it. Spending all your time praising "god" is a waste of life, you'll have wished you lived your life for yourself when you find out that there's no life after death.
LZPhishhead 5 years ago
I'm an atheist and I have morals. What makes you think atheists don't have morals. Being christian is immoral to me and you are the fool.
higherpower 5 years ago