devil fans are such jackasses, they think they're the best but no one else does because if they did, they would sell out. HAHA. Hate the devils, go flyers. from NJ
Oh, and the Devils average 90% attendance on any given night and turn a profit every year despite being sandwiched between the Rangers and Flyers and paying for a new arena in which they are legally bound to stay in for 24 more years as per a 27 year lease. Oh, and that beautiful new arena the Devils play in that I just mentioned? Yeah, the Devils OWN that arena. Can the Flyers say that?
@RockinFlyers all those empty seats are downstairs where seats are $200 minimum, and our prices overall are some of the highest in the league, upstairs is always pretty full the fact is we still turn a profit every year which is not what a lot of other teams can say. and like someone else said people selectively go to games, its the way around here you just dont notice it with the rangers becasue they list it as a sellout every game, msg is dimly lit on tv it hides the empty seats.
@Marsdevilsvolta It is your "hot shit" friend here. Just saw your page and noticed that you posted this well researched statement. Devil's attendance for 2010-11? at the BOTTOM of the league! 25th out of 30. Rangers? #13. Looking at a chart right now showing the NHL averages over the past 3 years. The Devils are #21 and did not average over 90% capacity in any one year. Not once! The Rangers? They are at #10 not once below 99% and in 2007-08 were at 100% even. Just so you were aware. ; )
@Marsdevilsvolta To your comment on the Devils and their profitability. I found some info on that as well which prefaces their data by saying "The most profitable NHL teams are not always the highest valued in any given year, but for the most part in 2010 profits corresponded with value -- while slightly more than half the teams in the NHL lost money, the top 10 on this list all were profitable."
Devils were ranked at #11! The Rangers? #2! Guess the data is all incorrect and lies right?
@DaveTV2 dude the rangers should be #2 they are in nyc and thats great for them, im a hockey fan. msg sells every ticket and they should, many are given to corporate sponsors however an go unused. thats all im talking about, its how it is in our area down low. and it is fine if they "preface their data" by saying that. but the devils DO turn a profit every year and even with the costs of the new arena they still are do more research. your last sentence made me laugh really hard, by the way.
@Marsdevilsvolta The difference between you and I is that your statements are based solely on opinion and assumptions and mine on facts. You are trying to make a point about how many seats at a rangers game go unused. Although this MAY be so you have nothing factual to back it up so your argument is weak and gets even weaker when all you have to do is look at the arenas during a game. The Devils's is consistency more empty than MSG and the FACTS back this up. Your point about profits is funny.
@DaveTV2 i do have facts i have been there and seen it, probably more than you, and its a shame i wish hockey was more popular. the rangers are obviously going to have a larger fanbase, anyone who would think differently is insane. its actually worse that it happens at your place now that i think of it lmao. all of my friends parents worked in the city and they always had free tickets most of the time they are unused. and whats funny about my point? devils always turn a profit unlike others.
@Marsdevilsvolta It is funny for a couple of reasons. You seem to think your opinions and observations trump facts. They don't! The FACTS show that the Rangers average attendance is between 98% and 100% over the past 3 years while the Devils average 80% capacity. The Rangers win. It is funny because you like to say that The Devils "turn a profit". If I spend $1,000 and make 1,001 I have "made a profit" haven't I? Just found info on Forbes that supports the last info I gave you. Devils are #11!
@DaveTV2 the devils dont spend 1000 and make 1001, you like to make up your own "facts". yes the devils are #11 they are more profitable than 19 other teams. for putting a team in between the flyers rangers islanders and then whalers, and have them do well is great. lol you really thought we were ever going to draw more than the rangers? why dont you go knock the isles about their attendance its much worse and they do not turn a profit. since the devils have been around 3-1 cups move along.
@Marsdevilsvolta LOL. Dude you are a riot. That "$1,001" comment was not intended as a statement of fact and only an idiot would think so. It was called an example! I also never said they were doing "bad" nor did I even give my personal opinion on the subject. I was not knocking anyone so why would I go knock the Iles? I simply gave you some facts which did not support what you said. What you said was incorrect and I was simply sharing the facts so you were aware. Please do move on!
@DaveTV2 you are the craziest son of a bitch i have ever come in to contact with thank god its on the internet. you are 40? you have the debating and writing skills of a 10 year old. you have a real problem staying on point you make up your own points to counter things i didnt say do you realize that? i hope you get some help some day, you are 40....lol.
@Marsdevilsvolta LOL! Thought you were moving on! Oh I love when people like yourself start throwing the insults around. Tells me all I need to know. I will leave you with this quote "Insults are the arguments employed by those who are in the wrong." BTW, It is HILARIOUS that you would comment on my writing skills. I mean, did you see that last mess of a message you wrote? Talk about hypocritical! See ya!
@DaveTV2 Why are you so hung up on attendance numbers, dude? Could it be that it's the only thing that the Rangers fans can say that their team does better than the Devils? Fill the seats? Because that has absolutely nothing to do with the on-ice product, which, judging by the past two decades, is an inferior product in Manhattan compared to the hockey club in Newark.
Oh, and by the way, the Devils have averaged more than the 80% you claim over the last three seasons. They averaged over 87%.
@pacmanghostx In case you missed it I am not a Rangers fan so no, that is not it. I only brought up attendance because that was the point being made. Please send me your source on that 87% because what I found showed VERY clearly that the 3 year average was closer to 80%.
@pacmanghostx Just double checked. Your 87% is correct. Guess my source was not so "clear". My bad! My point is still valid though. Rangers at close to 100% still win.
For the record. I have not axe to grind against the Devils. I just looked at what was being said and then checked the facts. Unfortunately I miscalculated them by 7%. Math was never my strong suit.
@DaveTV2 Yes, the Rangers "win" in terms of average attendance. I can't dispute that, however, if I had to choose, I'd rather a winning hockey team than the arena be sold out every single night. Of course, I love it when my team plays to a packed arena (Which they have on plenty of occasions in which the Rangers or Flyers weren't in the building.), but whatever, I can live with empty seats for crappy mid-week games. Makes it easier for me to get tickets.
@Marsdevilsvolta So says the guy who can't seem to help himself from sending ME reply, after reply after REPLY! How many times have you said you were "moving along" now? Please do dude. I have! I did not continue the conversation. @pacmanghostx responded to me so I replied. Upon realizing my math was not accurate and he was right, I admitted so and left it at that. Please just "move on" as you promised you would.
@DaveTV2 you probably werent old enough to see the rangers last cup, i dont know why im even bothering with this, will you be alive in 2048??? LOL the rangers ha. to think that its some accomplishment that the rangers are "more profitable" than the devils just goes to show how badly rangers fans are looking for things to be happy about. we are a small market team you are not lol.
@Marsdevilsvolta See? That is another example of your making assumptions. A. I am 40 so yes I do remember that and a lot more. B. I am not a Rangers fan. I am a Flyers fan but unlike you I tend to stick to points that are relevant to a conversation. The subject was regarding the Devils and Rangers so that was what I stuck to. If I would have brought up the Flyers in response to your inaccurate and baseless statements about the Devils and Rangers it would have been irrelevant.
@Chipoffurblock88 Thats how it is, we have tons of fans but they selectively go to games, sometimes it would be sold out, most times its not...but in the playoffs yea we always sell out
I mean, we only live and die with this team and stick with the Devils through thick and thin...
I mean, yeah, we make the playoffs every year, but a lot of the fairweather fans that currently follow teams such as the Penguins and Capitals would be put off by the terrible playoff exits.
i guess u call them devils fans bc there is only 200 fans there they suck they cant get fans if they try and there all the way up top realy fans go to flyers game and sell out bc we are realy fans so hows better flyers that get 19000 or devils that get 200
hey jackass just becuz the arena isnt filled up doesnt mean we dont have fans. im a HUGE devils fan n i live in south florida. we are all over the world. u just made urself look like a complete moron
hey "sportsngames9631" i bet u dont have the balls to say that in front of a devils fan u fuckin pussy. just stay home n hide behind the computer screen jackass. who won the cup in 1995? who won in 2000? n who won in 2003???? shut ur fuckin mouth moron. we r better then any eastern team. period.
ur mother suck with her big ass head thats y u suck dick and the rangers suck dick with u or so should i say the rangers and u suck on eachother dick lol !!!!!!!!!!!!!
flyers fans ran right up in the middle of the fuckin fags!!! devil fans wont even think of sittin in r nose bleeds cause it would be their noses bleeding!! PHILLY AINT NEVER SCARED!!
ive sat in the nose bleeds plenty of times in my devils jersey...and walked out of the building talking shit after the devils beat their asses 7-3 and 4-1 this season. lol @ cwood512 comment too!
can cheer for the penguins..flyers might still be playing but they havent met anyone from their own division yet, division full of teams they repeatedly lose to. canadiens & capitals...wow...rough
Umm, have you been to Flyers-Devils games? It's easily at least 1/3 Flyers fans on any given night. I was there for the playoffs a few years ago for both games and it was half-and-half. Devils fans are a joke.
devil fans are such jackasses, they think they're the best but no one else does because if they did, they would sell out. HAHA. Hate the devils, go flyers. from NJ
flyersfan221 2 months ago
Flyers fans own the Prudential Center.
Category5PHL 8 months ago
flyers suck
NightPro08 1 year ago
Flyers!!!!!
biggysmallz222 1 year ago
@biggysmallz222 suck
NightPro08 1 year ago
eeeeeeeeeempty seats
RockinFlyers 2 years ago 2
@RockinFlyers 1974 1974 1974 1974 1974 1974 1974 1974 1974 1974 1974 1974 1974 1974 1974 1974 1974
beercity 1 year ago
@RockinFlyers Good hockey team > Good attendance.
Oh, and the Devils average 90% attendance on any given night and turn a profit every year despite being sandwiched between the Rangers and Flyers and paying for a new arena in which they are legally bound to stay in for 24 more years as per a 27 year lease. Oh, and that beautiful new arena the Devils play in that I just mentioned? Yeah, the Devils OWN that arena. Can the Flyers say that?
pacmanghostx 1 year ago
@RockinFlyers all those empty seats are downstairs where seats are $200 minimum, and our prices overall are some of the highest in the league, upstairs is always pretty full the fact is we still turn a profit every year which is not what a lot of other teams can say. and like someone else said people selectively go to games, its the way around here you just dont notice it with the rangers becasue they list it as a sellout every game, msg is dimly lit on tv it hides the empty seats.
Marsdevilsvolta 9 months ago
@Marsdevilsvolta It is your "hot shit" friend here. Just saw your page and noticed that you posted this well researched statement. Devil's attendance for 2010-11? at the BOTTOM of the league! 25th out of 30. Rangers? #13. Looking at a chart right now showing the NHL averages over the past 3 years. The Devils are #21 and did not average over 90% capacity in any one year. Not once! The Rangers? They are at #10 not once below 99% and in 2007-08 were at 100% even. Just so you were aware. ; )
DaveTV2 8 months ago
@Marsdevilsvolta To your comment on the Devils and their profitability. I found some info on that as well which prefaces their data by saying "The most profitable NHL teams are not always the highest valued in any given year, but for the most part in 2010 profits corresponded with value -- while slightly more than half the teams in the NHL lost money, the top 10 on this list all were profitable."
Devils were ranked at #11! The Rangers? #2! Guess the data is all incorrect and lies right?
DaveTV2 8 months ago
@DaveTV2 dude the rangers should be #2 they are in nyc and thats great for them, im a hockey fan. msg sells every ticket and they should, many are given to corporate sponsors however an go unused. thats all im talking about, its how it is in our area down low. and it is fine if they "preface their data" by saying that. but the devils DO turn a profit every year and even with the costs of the new arena they still are do more research. your last sentence made me laugh really hard, by the way.
Marsdevilsvolta 8 months ago
@Marsdevilsvolta The difference between you and I is that your statements are based solely on opinion and assumptions and mine on facts. You are trying to make a point about how many seats at a rangers game go unused. Although this MAY be so you have nothing factual to back it up so your argument is weak and gets even weaker when all you have to do is look at the arenas during a game. The Devils's is consistency more empty than MSG and the FACTS back this up. Your point about profits is funny.
DaveTV2 8 months ago
@DaveTV2 i do have facts i have been there and seen it, probably more than you, and its a shame i wish hockey was more popular. the rangers are obviously going to have a larger fanbase, anyone who would think differently is insane. its actually worse that it happens at your place now that i think of it lmao. all of my friends parents worked in the city and they always had free tickets most of the time they are unused. and whats funny about my point? devils always turn a profit unlike others.
Marsdevilsvolta 8 months ago
@Marsdevilsvolta It is funny for a couple of reasons. You seem to think your opinions and observations trump facts. They don't! The FACTS show that the Rangers average attendance is between 98% and 100% over the past 3 years while the Devils average 80% capacity. The Rangers win. It is funny because you like to say that The Devils "turn a profit". If I spend $1,000 and make 1,001 I have "made a profit" haven't I? Just found info on Forbes that supports the last info I gave you. Devils are #11!
DaveTV2 8 months ago
@DaveTV2 the devils dont spend 1000 and make 1001, you like to make up your own "facts". yes the devils are #11 they are more profitable than 19 other teams. for putting a team in between the flyers rangers islanders and then whalers, and have them do well is great. lol you really thought we were ever going to draw more than the rangers? why dont you go knock the isles about their attendance its much worse and they do not turn a profit. since the devils have been around 3-1 cups move along.
Marsdevilsvolta 7 months ago
@Marsdevilsvolta LOL. Dude you are a riot. That "$1,001" comment was not intended as a statement of fact and only an idiot would think so. It was called an example! I also never said they were doing "bad" nor did I even give my personal opinion on the subject. I was not knocking anyone so why would I go knock the Iles? I simply gave you some facts which did not support what you said. What you said was incorrect and I was simply sharing the facts so you were aware. Please do move on!
DaveTV2 7 months ago
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Marsdevilsvolta 7 months ago
@DaveTV2 you are the craziest son of a bitch i have ever come in to contact with thank god its on the internet. you are 40? you have the debating and writing skills of a 10 year old. you have a real problem staying on point you make up your own points to counter things i didnt say do you realize that? i hope you get some help some day, you are 40....lol.
Marsdevilsvolta 7 months ago
@Marsdevilsvolta LOL! Thought you were moving on! Oh I love when people like yourself start throwing the insults around. Tells me all I need to know. I will leave you with this quote "Insults are the arguments employed by those who are in the wrong." BTW, It is HILARIOUS that you would comment on my writing skills. I mean, did you see that last mess of a message you wrote? Talk about hypocritical! See ya!
DaveTV2 7 months ago
@DaveTV2 Why are you so hung up on attendance numbers, dude? Could it be that it's the only thing that the Rangers fans can say that their team does better than the Devils? Fill the seats? Because that has absolutely nothing to do with the on-ice product, which, judging by the past two decades, is an inferior product in Manhattan compared to the hockey club in Newark.
Oh, and by the way, the Devils have averaged more than the 80% you claim over the last three seasons. They averaged over 87%.
pacmanghostx 7 months ago
@pacmanghostx In case you missed it I am not a Rangers fan so no, that is not it. I only brought up attendance because that was the point being made. Please send me your source on that 87% because what I found showed VERY clearly that the 3 year average was closer to 80%.
DaveTV2 7 months ago
@pacmanghostx Just double checked. Your 87% is correct. Guess my source was not so "clear". My bad! My point is still valid though. Rangers at close to 100% still win.
For the record. I have not axe to grind against the Devils. I just looked at what was being said and then checked the facts. Unfortunately I miscalculated them by 7%. Math was never my strong suit.
DaveTV2 7 months ago
@DaveTV2 Yes, the Rangers "win" in terms of average attendance. I can't dispute that, however, if I had to choose, I'd rather a winning hockey team than the arena be sold out every single night. Of course, I love it when my team plays to a packed arena (Which they have on plenty of occasions in which the Rangers or Flyers weren't in the building.), but whatever, I can live with empty seats for crappy mid-week games. Makes it easier for me to get tickets.
pacmanghostx 7 months ago
@DaveTV2 you need to seek help, asap.
Marsdevilsvolta 7 months ago
@Marsdevilsvolta So says the guy who can't seem to help himself from sending ME reply, after reply after REPLY! How many times have you said you were "moving along" now? Please do dude. I have! I did not continue the conversation. @pacmanghostx responded to me so I replied. Upon realizing my math was not accurate and he was right, I admitted so and left it at that. Please just "move on" as you promised you would.
DaveTV2 7 months ago
@DaveTV2 you probably werent old enough to see the rangers last cup, i dont know why im even bothering with this, will you be alive in 2048??? LOL the rangers ha. to think that its some accomplishment that the rangers are "more profitable" than the devils just goes to show how badly rangers fans are looking for things to be happy about. we are a small market team you are not lol.
Marsdevilsvolta 8 months ago
@Marsdevilsvolta See? That is another example of your making assumptions. A. I am 40 so yes I do remember that and a lot more. B. I am not a Rangers fan. I am a Flyers fan but unlike you I tend to stick to points that are relevant to a conversation. The subject was regarding the Devils and Rangers so that was what I stuck to. If I would have brought up the Flyers in response to your inaccurate and baseless statements about the Devils and Rangers it would have been irrelevant.
DaveTV2 8 months ago
I'll be honest, devils r first in the east right now... But their arena is still EMPTY hahahaha
Chipoffurblock88 2 years ago 7
@Chipoffurblock88 This was from 07 and the old shitty arena we had which no one went too. Come to an NJ game at the rock now and say that
Julian24151 1 year ago
@Julian24151 Nahh i kno its from 07 but I was talking about last year. I wud barely see anyone in the arena until the playoffs came around
Chipoffurblock88 1 year ago
@Chipoffurblock88 Thats how it is, we have tons of fans but they selectively go to games, sometimes it would be sold out, most times its not...but in the playoffs yea we always sell out
Julian24151 1 year ago
posers..... lame ass Devils "fans"
flyerz1321 2 years ago
@flyerz1321 1974 1974 1974 1974 1974 1974 1974 1974
beercity 1 year ago
@beercity It's 1975. Get your own one-dimensional comeback right.
GrkFlyersFan 1 year ago
@GrkFlyersFan 1975 1975 1975 1975 1975 1975 1975 1975 1975 1975 1975 1975 1975 1975
Julian24151 1 year ago
@flyerz1321 Yes, we're posers...
I mean, we only live and die with this team and stick with the Devils through thick and thin...
I mean, yeah, we make the playoffs every year, but a lot of the fairweather fans that currently follow teams such as the Penguins and Capitals would be put off by the terrible playoff exits.
pacmanghostx 1 year ago
Rofl...im fucking 16 and i've never been to a NHL hockey game...When I get a job, im driving to the Rock
harsch45 2 years ago
lmfao im a flyers fan...but i love hockey fans. theyre better then ANY fans ANYWHERE.
charliemonzo 2 years ago
i guess u call them devils fans bc there is only 200 fans there they suck they cant get fans if they try and there all the way up top realy fans go to flyers game and sell out bc we are realy fans so hows better flyers that get 19000 or devils that get 200
vadino05 3 years ago
hey jackass just becuz the arena isnt filled up doesnt mean we dont have fans. im a HUGE devils fan n i live in south florida. we are all over the world. u just made urself look like a complete moron
hahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
dmak646 3 years ago
vadino, that must be why our average attendance draw for the inaugral season at The Rock last year was 15,500 in a 17,625 seat arena.
pacmanghostx 2 years ago
this year its like 16,500
kewlnsimpguy 2 years ago
ur team name is the flyers you haven't won a cup in over 30 years you suck
kewlnsimpguy 2 years ago
That was hilarious.
ChetCampbell72 3 years ago 2
flyers suck n they will always suck. wtf is a flyer anyway. thats gay
dmak646 3 years ago
Damn straight.
smsgrabber 3 years ago 2
i like parise but the flyers are way better
austS17 3 years ago
if the flyers were way better then y r they in 8th place in the NHL n the devils 4th?
o idk maybe cuz THEY SUCK!!!!!!!!!
LOL
dmak646 3 years ago
hey "sportsngames9631" i bet u dont have the balls to say that in front of a devils fan u fuckin pussy. just stay home n hide behind the computer screen jackass. who won the cup in 1995? who won in 2000? n who won in 2003???? shut ur fuckin mouth moron. we r better then any eastern team. period.
dmak646 3 years ago
I have to agree...
He is more than likely an eleven-year-old child...
Oh, and the Flyers... Two Cups... Both of them before 1975.
The Devils? Three in nine years, with the last one being six years ago.
Now, which one, the Devils or Flyers, sucks?
Yeah, I thought so.
pacmanghostx 2 years ago
hahahahahaha i feel sorry for faggot flyer fans. they r pathetic n brain-dead
dmak646 3 years ago
Speak for yourself, pal.
Hockeyevan9992 3 years ago
cwood that comment is horrible, i hear 4 year olds sayin bad ass jokes like that. why dont u think of something funny to say you fuckin loser
and for the record i have hockey equipment worth more than u make in 2 months and ur gonna say im poor ahah
497284 3 years ago
it's a shame you sell less tickets than all the teams in the sunbelt.
twodayslatertdl 3 years ago
that building is EMPTY.
NYRNYM9486 3 years ago
Its the end of the game u idiot
kallstarn 3 years ago
I think I was at that game.
TGOTaylor 3 years ago
devils suck!!!
sportsngames9631 3 years ago
ur mother suck with her big ass head thats y u suck dick and the rangers suck dick with u or so should i say the rangers and u suck on eachother dick lol !!!!!!!!!!!!!
apromisjayden 3 years ago 2
were you responding to my comment about the devils sucking?
SPORTSGUY9933 3 years ago
flyers fans ran right up in the middle of the fuckin fags!!! devil fans wont even think of sittin in r nose bleeds cause it would be their noses bleeding!! PHILLY AINT NEVER SCARED!!
phishscale215 3 years ago
no were just not as poor as you
Cwood512 3 years ago 2
ive sat in the nose bleeds plenty of times in my devils jersey...and walked out of the building talking shit after the devils beat their asses 7-3 and 4-1 this season. lol @ cwood512 comment too!
psuscott0483 3 years ago
can cheer for the penguins..flyers might still be playing but they havent met anyone from their own division yet, division full of teams they repeatedly lose to. canadiens & capitals...wow...rough
psuscott0483 3 years ago
it must suck sitting at home having no team to cheer for and watching the flyers kick ass it sucks for all you devils fans
kdunn16 3 years ago
yeah watching your team make it to the playoofs for 11 staright years and win the stanley cup 3 times in 9 years sure is rough
Cwood512 3 years ago
who's still in the playoffs
flyersfanbrawlfan 3 years ago
flyers suck ass
prepssuck23 3 years ago
devils suck! lets go flyers!
Deserteye7 3 years ago
UGH! i hate it when in in the top section! you can barelee see anything. i like the glass or the nosebleed section!
airshowfanforever 3 years ago
lol philthy fans
SildenafilCitrate 4 years ago
You count 5 people "that many"? LOL Flygirls are a joke.
SQ1Fan 4 years ago
Umm, have you been to Flyers-Devils games? It's easily at least 1/3 Flyers fans on any given night. I was there for the playoffs a few years ago for both games and it was half-and-half. Devils fans are a joke.
rcp4 3 years ago
1975
melsdarttavern 4 years ago
Devils suck and their fans blow!
flyerz1321 4 years ago
flyers are a joke.. and they suck
nmigliore 4 years ago
devils suck. so do their fans. ive been to the rock, nothinng special
midget34man 4 years ago
How's the new Flyers' arena coming along?
billtei 4 years ago
thats pretty much how the rock is...another arena for flyers fans to take over.
daltz25 4 years ago
too bad nobody's there to see it. Scumbag Devils fans.
spidaman1111 4 years ago 2
Flyers suck.
billtei 4 years ago