Occupy London: A Street level view: 'How clear are we all on what concencus actually is?'

[MrWibble91]

@irishrogue61mak2 Go read a book and get some education.

[spacedecoy]

Respect to St. Paul's ....we need to Occupy the mind of the pubic with car stickers to win our money and control back from the global 1% as every country does. Respect to Occupy... I sang a song to bypass the British propaganda machine... this modern folk song played at St. Paul's last Friday 4th Nov. YouTube type: "occupy folk song" after Tony Benn's historic speech sums up a lot, public use of this folk song "if you're brainy" ...is called for and its copyright free for the Occupy cause

[ammachi3]

Why will there be no techno-fix? Becuase soon, key resources that are needed to build many of out most advanced technolgies will have been depleated. Economic meltdown due to declining oil supplies (in the next few years) will not leave room for us to create a Venus Project or Zeitgeisty world.

[ammachi3]

The only viable long term solution, the one that will allow us to live indefinitely on Earth, is to return to a lifestyle that is low impact and in tune with nature. Permaculture living, for example. There will be no techno-fix where we live with science fiction like technology espoused by the Zeitgeist movement and the Venus Project.

[ammachi3]

Furthermore, do they have a course of action that can be implemented and integrated into society to help us mitigate the coming crises of peak oil or the end of cheap fossil fuels, economic meltdown, and the depletion of many other key resources like clean and available drinking water, arable top soil, and other minerals? No! No one does. There are just to many of us because oil allowed our numbers to proliferate beyond a healthy level. Its called over-shoot.

[ammachi3]

Do they have a better plan of action, and the current trajectory? Perhaps they do. But can you replace the current economic trajectory? No. It has so many huge forces keeping it in place and the sheer momentum of it will not be easily quelled.

[ammachi3]

What doe they really hope to achieve by protesting? They will never in a million, billion, trillion years, create a more equitable and just world through revolution - from the top down, by trying to topple those that have the economic and political power. Has that ever happened? No! It takes time to create a more just and fairer society. In a word…evolution.

[ifedthehorse]

It's like all the most annoying people at a festival, minus the grass.

[jiros00]

Latest Yougov poll shows 20% back the occupy london protest. It's more than I thought.

[pooth27]

St Paul's - church of satan...supporting the corporations...the church is wrong, the people need to be liberated from the oppression of banks and false democracy. If the church cannot see this, then they are participating in the enslavement of people. Keep on people of great hearts and actions - keep up your spirit! We are with you there.

[DEMOSxKRATOS]

@pooth27 Totally agree, the situation is that people are more and more poor and the church is just a puppet of corporations and governments since pfft, ANCIENT TIMES; with the trick of faith they fool people into shutting up and letting corporations take their money, working for transnationals, blah blah blah if you dont complain youll go to heaven!?, occupy london has a message and that message is one of the best things a person can do: erradicate that rotten system and stablish democracy.

[pooth27]

@DEMOSxKRATOS Yes!  Have you heard of Mathematically Perfected Economy (Mike Montagne)? I have just come across it - no banks, no interest and a People's Monetary Foundry managing accounts. It creates 'promises to pay' contracts issuing money on demand for those who need to buy a house or start/run a business with 'paying it back' calculated on a rate of depreciation i.e. a house worth £100k with a 100yr lifespan £83 p.m. - easy to afford. No interest in the economy = 60% more in pocket.

[DEMOSxKRATOS]

@pooth27 where i live is slightly different of course, we just simply afford that stuff with support of the state, a government from the people, with the people and for the people, a 1 % is always going to want to over throw that of course, but it satisfies the popular needs of the 80% , Thought, its fundamental to become independent from international banks to achieve this. ditch the transnationals mate, don't let the transnationals live from you!; corporations are behind everything!

[MrGerbal23]

It's unbelievable. The G20 -- the most powerful summit of world governments -- meets tomorrow to discuss the global economic crisis, and who is sponsoring the meeting? Banks and corporations!

Now they are buying their way into the very meeting that could decide the world's financial future

[Goat777Face]

Haaa, check out Dufrais Constantinople from Fonejacker at 0:15 xD

[mrbagmansir]

@LBCstunt101 a wise man once said " don't whinge about it, get on your bike and find it" trouble is most of these worthless bastards don't want to work, they're quite happy bumming off the rest of us because it's far too easy to do so.

[Nismo12121]

I chuckled when I heard this 2:53-3:00

[pauloscum]

oh u r gonna hijack this now r u? fuck u u dumb fuck batty boys... yes this is a time for demands.. no we dont want reform... we DEMAND an end to fractional reserve banking!!!!!!!!!!!!!! now go fuck your own face!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[pauloscum]

lol look at thier faces!!!! they got caught out & they know the world will see it!!!!! lol they closed it coz too many people turned up... thats thier oficial statement.

[drysift]

Keep the pressure on 'em London!

[mrbagmansir]

while all these freeloading wasters are making a nuisance of themselves, they are not actively seeking work, therefore their benefits should be stopped. as for the church, fuck 'em, religion is primitive and illogical and more about controlling the weak than capitalism ever could be.

[MR1QUEST]

st pauls cathedral has become a disgrace to our faith the bishop of London must go, the house of god should not be run by the word of business but by the word of god , the church has sold its faith , if you want to speak to god at st pauls speak to the people out side in those tents they are doing gods work , Christ is among us once again he has come back to us not as one man but as all men , well 99% of them , and he has shut the church of the market and is speaking to the people out side :) 

[pooth27]

@MR1QUEST Yes, I fully agree!

[petefentonp]

sheeps. why dont these churches pay their fair share. fuckin christards.

[DarrenRyanMurphy]

The role of power is being shown. The strategy has been set and a couple of chosen speakers will lead the way. I'm glad they listed to the lack of consensus, but they must remember the horizontal egalitarian society of which they advocate must be practised and not just idealised about.

...It is far too easy to allow 'the best speaker' to become the voice and the leader. Thus, you're building a top down organization once more.

[AllTheseWorldsAreUrs]

Jesus loves the 99%

[TommyTurntables1]

@AllTheseWorldsAreUrs Im not a Christian but im sure Jesus loves the 1% too.

[kitty6883]

"consensus"?