Until the Light Takes Us - Junket

[SpineyVarg]

That guy is a fucking idiot. Black metal started sometime in the 80's, not the 90's.

[gunsncrocker]

@SpineyVarg yeah he got the decade mixed up he must be a tooooootalll bassstardddddd LOL u retard

[SpineyVarg]

@gunsncrocker You call me a retard, when 1. You can't even use proper English, I don't recall 'u' or 'bassstardddddd' or 'tooooootalll' being words, 2. You are probably much older than me, I don't know why you'd actually try & start arguing with me when you are obviously trying to be the smarter more mature one, & 3. Replying to my comment & calling me a retard is immature & idiotic. But that doesn't matter now, I will leave you to sit in front of your computer to argue w/ other random people.

[skysilcox]

It's a great documentary. Very nonpartisan, non-groupie/marketing, and very humanizing.

[MetalHead420100]

i actually really liked the film, even though it was pretty boring at lots of parts. but i agree with lots of the stuff that they said about the church burnings and all that. it was also pretty interesting even hearing the things that they had to say about certain topics......interesting characters....

[HorridDreams]

It is a VERY good film! They allow the musicians themselves to speak and explain everything from their own points of vifew (which are sometimes different). Better than most documentaries.

[chicanachick18]

I had higher expectations.

Two years in Norway?An 8month wait alone, just hoping that Varg would agree to their interviews.

It's because these directors are COMPLETE outsiders.It is frustrating and infuriating.

This is an intro doc. made for the mass of people like them.

It seriously put me and my friend to sleep. Or maybe that was the pot.

Maybe it's better on coke.Tell me, because I will not give it a second chance otherwise.

[chicanachick18]

They claim to have a shit ton of extra footage with other bands that they had to edit out. But, if half of the film wasn't random scenic views,they could have fit more material, and it would have kept me AWAKE. Of course, once they showed their true colors and admit to coming from the experimental/ indie scene, I immediately understood their approach.

[deathtrapdeath]

Black Metal died in the late 90s. Church burning cunts. Fuck them for destroying those historical buildings. All we got was some lowFi shit albums and this liberal cunt salivating over it. If black metal had any balls they should bur the fkn Mosks down.

[smedheat]

we aren't "metal people"

[ZEANski]

i've seen the movie... and it was nothing special and new to me. it was just report about church burnings, the killing of euron., the jail and fenriz... so, why they put out the movie? all these things are already spread out in every magazine and internet-website...

if this should be a gyle-story, so called it "darkthrone - a black metal history" or something...

[nykretus]

I agree with SigilOf Sauron, and WarLord369, and i dont care at the same time, cause yhea this is going to be famous, and faxion, i like the genre but i like to read more about the behavior of the world every mind is as sleep because they like what the society create it at the time ( Christianity) but i like god as it is but nothing to be with jesus christ or any fake religion incorrect religion.

[TheMrChugger]

Fucking wicked film, I love it! An un-biased, REAL view on what happened, from the actual people involved and not the press!

[Mitsuraga]

The movie is really just about Varg and Gylve. It's very narrow in its focus; it's not nearly so much as the premise makes it sound.

[bramlock]

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[unhallowed45]

Kind of funny how black metal spawned from a band that was a parody of itself LOL

[MrGuitarguy1986]

cradle of filth is trying to make black metal a product.

[LordNazgulKing]

@MrGuitarguy1986 It's already begun...

[ProcreatingSorg]

I'm getting a bit tired of hearing about how the black metal "scene" is dead...

It's dead to those who want it to be. Those that waste their time obssessing with the 90's bands. So much so that they don't even want to find new bands worthy of the same movement, and don't even give them a chance despite them knowing they're good. With any genre of music, as it grows more popular more bands emerge, thus the chance of shit bands arise... you just have to stop living in the past and dig through!

[disturbedblackbird]

I still support the scene and I agree. I listen to many types of music not just black metal. Music is a trip a journey and an adventure it represents the voice of our spirit, it is something emotional deep and sincere!!

[bumzurvaj]

@ProcreatingSorg Fenriz said it best in the movie "It's everyones property, likes for people who want to do humor, and whatever, it's out of our fuckin hands. Black metal is still for me those secluded things that people are not the fuck intrested in. Black metal is like a brand now."

[ProcreatingSorg]

@bumzurvaj Listen, Fenriz has my eternal respect for his epic contributions to black metal, and for being a stand-up guy. But I am my own person, and I think for myself, so I have my own opinions. Just because I am not the drummer of Darkthrone doesn't mean that my opinion is less valid or anything. I am not going to hang on to every last bit of Fenriz's words, just because of whom the words are coming from. I agree with Fenriz for the most part, but I think some modern bands are great.

[boothoot]

@ProcreatingSorg The Black Metal "scene" IS dead. Anything else labled black metal is bullshit, and is NOT about the "movement". What do you people not understand about black metal?? - It is not just because we are stuck in the past, the past is alive and well in the hearts of real fans... But is a fucking disease ridden trand to all the faggots thinking USBM, or "newer" bands support the same feelings and ideas harbored by mere teenagers back in the early 90's... Get fucked.

[ProcreatingSorg]

@boothoot Man fuck YOU and your immature ways of expressing your simple ideas. You couldn't just disagree, right? God damn punk.

[Ansuz92]

@boothoot If you think black metal is dead you must live in a fucking trailer.

Black Metal isn't satanist garbage, it's gone in other directions. Try the Cascadian Black Metal Left-Wing scene.... Blackwave scene, which has come out DSBM... War Metal Scene which inspired shit like Beherit coming out of Canada.

[disturbedblackbird]

The girl seems more sincere though the dorky guy reeks of douche bags! I'm sure deep down she has metal and leather fantasies heh heh!

[WyldOats]

@disturbedblackbird, they arent, they are fans and actually know their shit!

[disturbedblackbird]

Am I the only one insulted by these perpetrators it all sickens me, because this is not a game or joke it is serious. These tools shouldn't be welcomed by such an anti-scene what a mockery!! The last thing this dying scene needed was someone to finish it off by exploiting "the cause" they are probably religious to boot! FUCK YOU ALL!

[uglyguido]

@disturbedblackbird The scene is long dead.

[disturbedblackbird]

I guess it depends on who you ask but you are right for the most part.

Something as extreme and emotional as this "scene" is exhausting and it takes a lot out of the persons involved. The one's that are doing it for popularity or to be cool are the real murderers!

Does that make any sense? Cheers!

[uglyguido]

yeah man, couldn't agree more.

[disturbedblackbird]

Our circle or at least metal-heads don't go delving into other peoples business why is it okay for them to judge and view us as the freaks who follow this "crazy" shit.

Shedding light in a scene which is better off without this type of exposure was never the intent so why the fuck is it okay now! Someone in the underground scene somewhere should kill them and that would be for the cause fuck these RATS and all the sell-outs, posers and documentarians.

[disturbedblackbird]

We already know most of the story (stories) why the fuck would I give my money to these imbecils?

They are not even a little metal!! FUCK ALL !!

What the fuck is really going on?

[iMPERIALSUPPORT]

@disturbedblackbird They have video footage of Varg Vikerness in prison who cares who they are, they are obviously interested in the movement, they may not be metal heads but they are documentarians meaning they know how to make movies.

[disturbedblackbird]

"The movement" "Their movie" your money "their pockets! You said it yourself they make movies if anything they are too late even if there was a movement these fools would only blow everyones cover!! I stand by my first comment thanks but I couldn't give two shits about vikernes. It is done and over with move along here people, remember it is about the music not drama and rumors, at least for me anyway, CHEERS!! Seriously get over it!

[beer4life101]

your right it is about the music

[bakkendorff]

Holy shit! She doesn't have any clue about the waves of black metal! Roughly speaking: 1st wave: Venom/Bathory/Mercyful Fate... 2nd wave: Darkthrone, Mayhem, Satyricon and so on... 3rd wave: Solefald, later Enslaved and so on..

[slayer1888]

fuckin agree with ya, an these 2 spent 2 years in norway with fenriz etc- the mind boggles-althought they are yanks

[iamjohnstone]

This movie covers NORWEGIAN black metal. The bands from the first wave were European.

[Mastafly7]

@bakkendorff

dumbass, Venom are not Black Metal

[beer4life101]

they have an album called black metal and thats were the term first came from.

[dynamitharry91]

@Mastafly7 Venom is black metal dude, they named the Genre together with Bathory.

[bumzurvaj]

@dynamitharry91 Venom is heavy metal with punk tempos, the only important impact they had was visual. Hellhammer and Bathory were the first.

[bakkendorff]

I don't know why everybody focuses so much on the church burnings, the one suicide and a couple of murders!?! It's actually not that big of a deal for the genre! Try seeing "Once upon a time in Norway..." It shows a more realistic picture of the early 2nd wave!

[munsterr777]

Why are regular people making movies about metal? Of any

kind? Fuck this shit.

[SevereRepugnance]

Hopefully this will see a DVD release. I need to watch this!

[khashayal2opeth]

i can`t find any link :( for download

[PMLI]

This film seems that doesn't exist!! where can I watch it?? Why it has no pubblicity or media support? It's also impossible to download it! you can't order it via internet! where the fuck this film is!!!

[invidkllr]

It's playing today at 4:30pm CST at the Alamo Ritz in Austin, TX. I'll see you there!

[Krist127]

Hey, It's still in the theatres right now. Here in Belgium it plays in Antwerp. Can't wait to get it on DVD tough! Stay dark, cheers!

[princessjunecake]

Christians are hypocrites... Some of the rituals and the traditions that they practice are Pagan.

What do an egg or a bunny have to do with Easter? What do wreaths a tree and holly have to do with Christmas?

[TheDestruktor]

you're an idiot.

[princessjunecake]

That would be you for insulting someone online.

As well as insulting someone online and not stating why. And not being able to give a response to why you think what I stated is wrong.

All you have to do is read the bible and study other religions and you'll see.

[burkas80]

ah well.... might be fun to watch, still remember the media frenzy about it....

[tbonesmuggler]

can you buy this documentary and if so where???

[iMPERIALSUPPORT]

thats the guy from Kenny Vs. Spenny who's cooler

[6Helen66]

When she speaks about art galleries at the ending, does anyone understand the names of the two artists refered! I can´t understand their names...

[Ulvgrimnir]

One of them is Harmony Korine.

[Viriatus]

can anyone find this movie in p2p?

[WarLord369]

trust me i'm not a random idiot rambling around about nonsense.. i understand norse history and their motives behind attacking christianity and i agree with them.. they're a pestilence crippeled ideologies aimed to control and enslave peoples lives and souls their rituals are replicas of pagan decent... don't try to lecture me. if u wanna have a conversatation about it let me know...

[grimgoat43]

@WarLord369 not much to lecture cuz u were right on about it :)

[sierota77]

They heard "lo-fi", and couldn't stay away.

[cannibalcorpse500]

I finally got a ticket to see this!

[noblewulfff]

these people are stupid

[L2kite]

Where the hell can I get this DVD?

[FallenTerrorizer]

i wish somone would tell me as well

[SubluxT7]

I need help! I can't find this movie ANYWHERE!

Someone must have a link :(

[hs201kf]

jesus, she sounds like a secondary school teacher.

[RebelData]

i want the DVD already... the screenings are way too far...

[ajvila]

I really want to see this

[NorgithDemonrace]

the movie is very good, for once black metal is painted in the light that it was meant to be painted in. whether or not they are hipsters is a judgement call, at the Q&A they put a stupid hippy right in his place and it was beautiful.

the reason why black metal needs to stay underground though, is because only the people that partake in it, fully should listen to it. otherwise it weakens the strength and passion for black metal.

[WarLord369]

but regardless it was pretty naive to only attack one religion and not embrace the idea of media exposure... you don't change the world just by breaking a couple of eggs and not making the omelet... never the less...black metal musicians where trying to prevent this generation from becoming the hopeless one and failed but showed that we can.. anyhow this is all i have to say for now..

[WarLord369]

first off fuck that guy film maker douchebag he's just in it for the glamour obviously atleast the female grasp the ideology behind it.. second off yes it is pretty stupid it's aimed at only christians but that is because they are the most ignorant of people around.. as for catholics they understand the history behind theirs and other religions around..

[JohnFaulconer]

If you know anything about Norse history you will understand the reasons they attacked Christianity/Catholicism specifically.

[Lord6of9Uk]

so wen the fuck is this coming out! FUCK!! ; /

\m/ hail MayheM \m/

[Asidrift]

i am replying to your message about cristianity. i am not a cristian or a satanists . aperently jesus show people not to invade or convert just like you said . God told adam & eve not to eat from the forbidden fruit of teemptation. they were tempted. temptaition was allways meant to be & nature will allways grow . and if youre a cristian you should know.

[nolanb21]

These two are indie hipsters through and through, and are just making this movie to sensationalize and exploit black metal.

[metallicafreak222]

for 2:20... I don't agree with killing people unless they deserve it... but as for church burning, I support that whole heartedly.

FUCK Christianity!

[Asidrift]

this is for the lady talkig .i was watching your video . you seem very ingnorent by assumig that black metal wanted to chainge the world . its only a message to let christianity that they are not acceptable for there corruptive ideas. specially invadeing a pagan country. maybe you should start doing something else.

[unholygoat66]

EXACTLY

[Kataxu]

It's too bad the hatred was aimed at Christianity, when the Roman Catholic church was really at fault. People who follow Jesus' teachings would never invade another country, slaughter everyone there if they did not convert. Even Ihsahn is smart enough to know that Jesus was a good man, but the church was corrupt.

[Satyrisita]

You guys are pieces of shit. Get a fucking Life.

[Tolstoievsky]

how so?

[aakonBLkeetreh]

Well u obviously have a really busy life if you can sit on your ass and type nonsense crap to random people over the net hu??

GO YOU! YOU LITTLE INTERNET WARRIOR!

[AntiInternationalism]

It is nice to see someone who knows what they are talking about for a change. That is exactly right.

[Ghasst]

Am i the only one whos getting fucking sick of mainstream media talking ignorantly about bm

[Lord6of9Uk]

so wen is this coming out?

[SigilOfSauron]

If this movie comes out the genre of black metal will be infested with scene kids, I fucking hate them. They are like parasites who don't know shit about music and move to a style just because they think its cool.

[einsatzdeath]

Sigil, black metal needs scene kids. They are supposed to be cannon fodder.

[satanhell2000]

Most Black Metal fan's nowdays are scene kids.

[SigilOfSauron]

Yeah I know, it is horrible. In fact most of them come to black metal because of bands like Dimmu Borgir and Cradle of Filth. I mean they don't try to attract scene kids, it's just with their mainstream sound that infects the genre to become mainstream. But, at least there will always be the underground, as long as these fucks don't spread it with their gay movie!

[satanhell2000]

Very true!

I find nothing wrong with cof and dimmu before they became mainstream, it's after that that pisses me off.

Both bands have made some good classics and i respect them for that.. but nowdays? utter shite for chilldren.

I'd like to see this movie just because it's based on my favourite music genre, but i'd also like them to keep it underground, but i don't think that's gonna happen as they were promoting the film on the red carpet talking to some fucking glamour model reporter.

[AntiInternationalism]

I dont really understand the people who want black metal to stay underground so much. I am a huge fan and love it, but this music is so passionate about what they sing about that it would do no good if the message was kept "underground" where it couldnt be heard. When you have a mission statement and a message to put out, it needs to be out there for the world to see. Besides, even though black metal is becoming more known, people are still gonna hate it. It will never be accepted.That is good.

[detnyericket]

I don't like trend conscious people either but if black metal is to survive then it must have an audience and if it does not have an audience or maintain an audience then it will have no significance and that would suck indeed. Yes there will be trendy fucks who will get into bm cuz they think it's cool but hopefully they'll learn to love it for real and thus get others interested in it as well thereby helping the genre to stay alive and thrive.

[SigilOfSauron]

Yeah, I know. I'm actually not really worried about this movie though because it won't influence scene kids. Have you heard about the "Lords of Chaos" film they are making with the faggot from "Twilight" who is going to play as Varg Vikernes? If anything will ruin the scene that movie will. Soon we'll have a ton of Twilight fags wearing Burzum and Mayhem shirts in public places such as schools, and they will form poser bands from it! These are some tough days for Black Metal!

[detnyericket]

Oh god that is going to be terrible. Urgh! Why do they want to do that?  That guy would be all wrong to play the part of Varg Vikernes!

[GnastyLag]

Your're scaring me DON'T SAY THAT.

[SigilOfSauron]

Sadly it's true, if you look on Wikipedia it says that they're going to start filming this September, so it will probably be released sometime next year. But it is bound to fail because it's being made by a retarded Japanese guy and it's his debut movie. Not to mention the fact that the Twilight kid is a complete faggot and will probably ruin Varg's image if it does fail.

[jeepjunkie88]

That kid needs to fall on some glass.

[Sayujinse]

are you serious? where did you hear this? I'm scared...

Twilight is a poison to this society, and to mix the two would do much of what you say. One can only hope that people will be turned off to the genre. There must be something that can be done, possibley in a local sense, to prevent any scarring from the release of this film!!

[SigilOfSauron]

Well I originally heard it from Blabbermouth, I had some doubts, until I saw on Wikipedia and some official filming site, that it is going to be released next year.

[aakonBLkeetreh]

ITS like a plague has befallen unto the black metal scene...

[SigilOfSauron]

It's Euronymous' post human revenge!

[ProcreatingSorg]

@SigilOfSauron Every genre will have it's so-called "posers" (that is, people who pretend to be something they're not). That doesn't mean the genre deserves any less respect for it, after all it's not "IT'S" fault. Nothing can remain completely underground for long, unless of course it is totally unacceptable within society (but even that will bring you some unwanted attention). These "scene kids" don't deserve the attention they crave. YOU like black metal? YOU listen to it and fuck the others!

[joelvigilante]

@SigilOfSauron Dont worry, there's no auto-tune or breakdowns. They wont like it.

[ZEANski]

@SigilOfSauron exactely!

[PhilliesGrape]

I need to see this, when does it come out..?

[unholygoat66]

please tell me this will only be released in dvd and not in theaters worldwide or even here in the USA....

[OxycontinRX]

Blasto, you are what Varg meant when he called metal Nigger culture

[einsatzdeath]

I don't think that is what Varg meant. I would imagine he'd be more disgusted by someone named after 'hillbilly heroin' pills.

[VikingWarriorof69]

MayheM were the undisputed leaders of the subgenre... look it up!

[freyrkin]

Don't judge it before you seen it.

So what if they are over-educated, isn't it a good thing?

At least they let the creators talk themself and the docu won't feature expert comentaries as with other metal-documentaries.

Looking forward to this.

[woodgrainlove]

who gives a fuck about these two fuck wads where can i go to get the movie?

[magr6773]

Words, sentences...Can't understand...must...be...shit.­ Jewsfaggotsheuaar

[blastocyst]

Two over-educated faggots that will never understand black metal trying to explain it in misguided academic terms....what a fucking waste.

[WraithFather]

fag

[louiscfc93]

@blastocyst im glad that retard metalheads didnt make the movie.then it would have just been the typical screaming "DARKTHRONE RULES WOOOO!!!".and what is wrong with being educated.being educated doesnt only mean from schools.we are educated constantly by events in every day life

[stonemaster420]

please!!! xasthur didn't even come to be until 1995. get your history straight. plus his shit is mediocre at best. TRUE black metal was burzum & darkthrone & the original mayhem. just you posting that pisses me off..& i'm american.

[growingsound]

To those who don't know: Xasthur basicially invented true black metal.

[Profoundelusion]

The only thing Xasthur brought to the black metal scene is trendy emo kids. Besides, Burzum is one of his main influences.

[deadworld101]

Wow seems to me that a bunch of angry mall goth kids are pissed off that someone out side of the metal world is hitting shit head on. Omg deadworld you may say they are all posers im super hardcore I gots my cuts on my arm to show the world how evil I am......Black metal is fucking commercial now get over it damn.

[FanoMessan]

I don't see how Americans from San Fransisco (!) can tell the BM story.

[Immortalgrim]

I can see Jewish hand in all of this.

[ZanyAnton]

where can you see the movie?

[BioHazard1Fin1]

Fuck america.

[frogboi666]

For ppl who have made a film on Black Metal they shure have no idea what so ever what it is realy about.....

[Angloth]

Who does? I mean black metal is an individual thing. Its a thing you interpretate

[Nordthron]

There aren´t a documenatary about Black Metal before???

Well go on youtube and you will see more the ten of them!

Americans...

[vargvekernes]

great, posers trying to enplane real black metaler's BLACK METAL, great...your doing this for all the wrong reasons, because of the (scene) fuck, you didn't even like the music and you decide to make a movie about it...POSER

fuck you!

[mightyturisas]

stfu prick, if you want to be an elitist douchebag, go being a punk rocker and wear a fucking uniform.

[PirateOfTheInternet]

I can't wait to see your film on Wednesday!

[Thrillseeker666]

Fuck off with your videos about blackmetal