CPAC: The Men With the Guns Make the Rules [RightWingWatch.org]

[Squipplekillzbitches]

It's also quite a bit easier to have a communist revolution with a bunch of armed commies.

[BronxBombers4life123]

NRA NRA NRA NRA NRA GO GUNS!!!

[drumrnva]

"The guys with the gun make the rules." Yep. Just like the good lord said. Thou shalt carry thy gun, and if thine enemy strike thee, thou shalt blow his shit away.

[81man4ua]

the 2nd amend. allows us to keep and bear arms against the governtment~~~

[thegoochieguy]

i'm all for the second ammendment....its all those other things lapierre says he should be shot.

[TheTradingOutpost]

What's the matter...afraid to talk union at work??? I guess you wouldn't want your co-workers to think you were disloyal to your corporate masters. At least you have your gun. That must really be helping you take care of your family.

[TheTradingOutpost]

Contd.

Stop bitching. Stop doing your tough guy posing.

We know all of you want guns to compensate for some inadequacies in the bedroom.

If you had some real guts, instead of obsessing about how to intimidate fictional strawmen from the ghetto, you would join a union.

Stop being racist, and lets kick some ass for the working class. UNION YES!

[ridgewatbrad]

kissoff !!!!!!!!!!!!!

[TheTradingOutpost]

This douche is absolutely right. The guys with the guns do make the rules. The problem is that I always see the guys with the guns making ad hoc rules, on their own, and in violation of the constitution.

Of course, "the guys with the guns" that I'm referring to are the police. I've never seen a gun (other than hunting rifles) used for any constructive purpose

Anyone with half a brain will realize that having unlimited access to guns, at best offers you limited protection from a few threats

[albritton77]

AMEN!!!

[shaokem]

you sir are an idiot in comparing your freedoms to a simple forest fire control method. our freedoms are preserved by guns, which are used as tools in the hands of capable people in our armed forces which protect us. when someones house is broken into or when someone is being mugged or raped, i'm pretty sure if that victim had a gun and had a clear shot they would take it... thus protecting their freedoms.

[beefyramos]

Wayne LaPierre is dead on.

if you hate the 2nd amendment, then you must hate the entire constitution.

[barelyillegal79]

What don't you understand about the argument. As I see it, it basically boils down to deterrence. An armed populace deters a government from overstepping its bounds. Stalinist USSR, Nazi Germany, the Khmer Rouge, etc were able to oppress and murder large numbers of civilians, because their civilian populations were ALREADY unarmed by gun control laws and powerless to resist. Remember, govt in general is a necessary evil and, like fire, must be contained, limited, and treated w/ caution.

[jrmsher33]

Well, the guy's with the gun's don't make the rules. The guys with the guns are told what to do.

[SpringChatty]

He is talking about all the people with them.

[TheTradingOutpost]

Exactly, all the people with guns act tough but then immediately fall in line when confronted by their corporate masters.

[Aryaba]

Private citizenship with liberal ownership of firearms helps to stop the fires from ever happening.

[tatry21]

Wayne LaPierre is awesome.

[Srinivassa]

I don't get it. I mean all the NRA stuff has been said before, but what exactly is supposed to be causing the "cold puckered butts?" Whose butts are puckering and why? He needs to be more clear with his metaphors. He's supposed to be a politician not a comedian. He did, however, succeed in being funny.

[zzzxxyy]

So if people don't own guns, they aren't real Americans? WTF?

[barelyillegal79]

Not what he said; pay attention and think!

[zzzxxyy]

No, that's what he's implying. I own a gun, but I am no criminal or gun nut. However, he's pandering to the far right in his speech. Now you pay attention.

[jodfk]

He says from my cold puckered butt instead of my cold dead hands! LOL

[kiffytoitoi]

this guys sucks heaps and heaps of cock!!.

[BattleReb]

Thanks for posting, you dirt bag Obama lover.

[barelyillegal79]

A name like kiffytoitoi and you're one to talk.

[TMundo]

Gandi said that if you provoke a greater aggresor with violence, they will simply do you in, but if you don´t fight back, there existing morals will come into play.They will not want to kill those that refuse to fight back, and if they do, it will invoke the sympathy of those watching.MLK adopted that principal and took it a step further by boycotting certain services. You can hit your aggressor in the pocket book too. I understand the need for guns, but there are other effective ways as well.

[barelyillegal79]

That supposes the "aggressor" has enough "existing morals" to begin with. Note that Ghandi was up against the Brits and MLK against The US's laws. The US and British already had enough "existing morals" to allow the non-violent strategy to work. Notice that the non-violent strategy didn't work out so well against the notorious oppressive regimes of the 20th century such as Stalin, Hitler, or the Khmer Rouge, which, byu the way, also happened to prohibit civilian gun ownership.

[TMundo]

Good point.Tibet isn't doing so well, and I have to say it's quite a shame,but even though they are still getting done in, they still don't fight back due to their convictions of nonviolence,I really respect that,how can anyone not?I personally believe in giving place unto God,as its his job to take revenge.But I cannot relate in any way to Tibet & others because I am not violently oppressed.Being in their situation I might say otherwise.Given the chance to escape with a gun I most likely would.

[actionist2008]

The men with the guns make the rules say it MS-13

[jdheelfan]

Rule #1 The men with the guns make the rules!

[MadMax1802]

the second amendment refers strictly to militia should not villify those who interpret it as an individual right. People with different backgrounds interpret it in contrasting ways. I can see how someone from an urban area sees guns as a threat because of urban violence and crime. I do not experience that environment. All I see is the benefits of owning guns for self-defense, and hunting (an enjoyable outdoor, environmentally responsible activity if done responsibly).

[MadMax1802]

Fact: The 2nd Amendment is vague largely open to interpretation. I tend to interpret that the second amendment gives individuals the freedom to possess firearms for self-defense, legal recreation, and to defend against a government if it becomes tyrannical. I do not, however, believe that those of you who think the 2nd amendment refers only to organized militias are wrong about the constitution. It just means you interpret it differently. In the same way, those of you who believe that

[tuttle572]

When the Bill of Rights was written it was to spell out the God given rights of each American individual. And during that time the expression "a well regulated militia" referred to ordinary non-military citizens who are in possession of and proficient with firearms.

People who think that the founders would give power to a government run militia in a document which expressly limits the scope of government miss the point of the document entirely.

[mjr256]

Yeah, the 2nd amendment is the foundation of all our freedoms because clearly the greatest threats to our freedoms are deer, ducks, and Dick Chaney's half-faced friend.

Why else would grown men spend their free time in forests shooting defenseless animals if not to defend our freedoms?

[mjr256]

They also gave us the 1st amendment, which by the way comes first.

[underbird]

Thank you for posting this. It really makes me realize how important the 2nd amendment is.

[TroyOi]

To quote a famous patriot,

"Political power comes from the barrel of a gun."

[MrPatriotOne]

As long as you have a gun you have a vote!

Those without power cannot defend FREEDOM!

The Second Amendment was put forth for "We The People" To fight and resist tyranny in our own government! The founders were very clear on this! We The People, not We The Militias!

Militias were retained for the Security of a free states, meaning non over bearing federal government control!

[bu77h34d]

"As long as you have a gun you have a vote! "? I think you'll find that lots of people without guns also have votes.

[barelyillegal79]

In a worst case scenario, yes, you can only be guaranteed to be respected as a force to be reckoned with if you can actually use force.. People only have the voice or paper or electronic votes you're referring to so long as the people in charge agree to allow them. BUT, with guns in the hands of private citizens, the government has no choice but to respect those citizens as forces to be reckoned with.

[WatermelonRat]

The second amendment was made to ensure the existence of militias, as at the time people had an aversion to standing armies. "Militias" in this case doesn't mean citizens taking the law into their own hands, but rather an organized militia system, which has today become the National guard.

Also, while I'm not entirely opposed to gun rights, I find this guys "you're not free unless you have a gun" philosophy rather disturbing.

[barelyillegal79]

You cannot equate today's national guard with the militia referrred to in the 2nd Amendment, especially as it relates to gun ownership. The militia of the 1770's and 80's meant a group of men who took THEIR OWN GUNS FROM HOME, then gathered somewhere and organized. They were not unuarmed people who came to a central location and had guns "issued" to them from. A very relevant difference. If one does not already have a gun in their possession, he cannot then join real a militia.

[SixTrey94]

I agree. The 2ns Amend keeps us free.

[Oncetwicethreetimes]

That is some scary stuff, equating freedom with guns. Explains a lot about this country.

[Ghoststarks]

Leave this country then.

[seckler8]

What is really scary is imagining a government with guns and a population without them!

[wodergmc]

Then how did this country become free to begin with? We took up arms against the Brits. You cannot trust a government that does not trust the people with guns.

[barelyillegal79]

If it scares you , so be it! If you think freedom can always be preserved and defended without force (guns), you've lived a very sheltered life.

[Sonnetmaster]

Bah! Does this man not remember the eviction of the British from India, or the Civil Rights Movement in America? This man would have failed any history course in any decent school.

[tikitikidog]

Do you remember American Revolution, or the American Civil war, I think you would have failed your history course.

[uru86]

Swedes obviously leave in a tyranny...

[onemanband1963]

Always an assured Republican applause line...and I actually thought the comedic aspect of Republicans would diminish w/Bush's departure.

[Ghoststarks]

go to hell

[onemanband1963]

Have a nice day! : )

[TruthSeeker1988]

Republicans talk so much about preserving the 2nd amendment but totally ignore the rest of the constitution.

[barelyillegal79]

Pretty broad accusation with no specifics there. I don't think that the majority of Republicans are in favor of anything that violates any of the constitution. And if you're referring to a terrorist's right to make a phone call overseas without his "privacy" being violated or something along those lines, there probably is no such right in the first pace.

[masterhook]

wow, talk about not understanding what the 2ed was really about, good job rewiting history there