Libel Lawfare: Silencing Criticism of Radical Islam (1)

[tonysfsd]

Europe is islamised and Israel is to blame???? Some of these comments are stupid funny!

[LePetitGrosse]

when the islamisation of Europe happened, my conscience will be clear for I am not a liberal leftist.

[GingerDemarque]

Mark my words, ladies and gentlemen, in 10 years time or less there will be stonings in the USA, Australia, and Europe. The "diversity dictators" are turning our country over to ISLAM not RADICAL Islam. I don't know how they reconcile their love for homosexuals, their love for all things Islam, and Islam's hatred for homosexuals. I guess they work it out in their heads somehow.

[leland61]

Whoever posted this need to take it down and clean it up then re-post. It is a mess.

[cr4yv3n]

amazingly poor recording

[gujjucheap]

damn shes hot

[DreamFreedom1]

danworthj: the muslim and leftard definition of islamophobia, racism etc is ANY and moreover insults the true victims of racism, naziism and fascism

[redarrowhead]

What people who do not study this do not understand (I am not saying that I myself do) is that Islam has broad appeals for any type of person willing to be radicalized. It may be a religion of peace (most cases it isn't), the ultimate decentralized form of gang organization where a person can murder, steal and rape and all is good in the name of allah, a front for jew-haters or anti-Westerners, an ideology with political agenda, etc.

[redarrowhead]

@redarrowhead

This cannot be found in any other religon, and that is why Islam does not belong in the West.

[danworthj]

The zionist definition of anti-semitism is anyone (racist or non racist) who disagrees with the settlers stealing palestinian homes, stealing their water, and taking big judeo christian shits on little palestinian children. Hmmm I wonder why we have terrorism? DUH!

[usmc7242]

@danworthj Wow, since Israel did none of those things, what is the argument again??

[danworthj]

@usmc7242 What is your argument? You have none, unless it is you being robbed and poisoned. Good news though. The Israelis sterilized their own population with those bunker busters. They are too stupid to understand the jetstream. Now they (zionists) are having even more retarded children than ever before. Amen. I think you should try to live next to a radical settler. You will get robbed. Hell, maybe you are one of these sub-humans I speak of, in which case I hope you die of cancer.

[countertreason]

@danworthj Wow, you are fucking nuts.

At least its prolly fun or something.

[RoadlessPath]

Gaffney is right. Soevernity is preventing that laws of other nations can mess up or end up in one own nation constitution.

Taranto says that freedom of speech is protected. Berkowitz says that radio host are silenced on talking about islam. Did the host didn't knew its rights, or was he just careful or affraid?

[bananito2]

Have you ever wondered the sound of a lying pig that is pretty nervous

24:12

[bananito2]

mmm it seems that internet is Douchewit's worst nightmare hahaha

I wonder why nobody speaks against Finkelstein in Internet.

Maybe because he is after the truth

[Kurtlane]

Norman Finkelstein. Habitual liar, attention seeker, and the filthiest professor of all. Speculates on the memory of his parents (who lived through the Holocaust) everywhere he can. Has been fired by Brooklyn College, N.Y.U., and several other schools for incompetence, mental instability, and abuse of students.

(cont.)

[Kurtlane]

Peter Novick (University of Chicago): "many of [Finkelstein's] assertions are pure invention. ... No facts alleged by Finkelstein should be assumed to be really facts, no quotation in his book should be assumed to be accurate, without taking the time to carefully compare his claims with the sources he cites"

(cont.)

[Kurtlane]

Prof. Omer Bartov (an authority on genocide) called "The Holocaust Industry" "a novel variation on the anti-Semitic forgery, 'The Protocols of the Elders of Zion' ... brimming with indifference to historical facts, inner contradictions, strident politics ... indecent ... juvenile, self-righteous, arrogant and stupid"

When Finkelstein spoke at Yale on Nov. 10, 2005, he said, "In academia, you can say anything as long as it is footnoted."

(cont.)

[Kurtlane]

From his April 28, 2005 lecture at University of Buffalo: "...the protagonist in the novel, Exodus, was named 'Ari', which is short for 'Aryan' - an example of the Jew's true intent and Jewish racism. It is the whole admiration for this blond haired, blue eyed type." (Total nonsense. Ari is short for 'Ariel', from Aryeh - Hebrew for lion.) In the same lecture said, "In the last fifteen years, there has not been a single death attributed to anti-Semitism in Europe." (Another nonsense.)

(cont.)

[Kurtlane]

Praised David Irving as "a good historian!" and as having "made an indispensable contribution to our knowledge of World War II."

Finkelstein often seems to be reasonable. He talks about the way "we reasonable and rational people" think. However, people who claim to be reasonable and rational, and even seem to be, aren't necessarily that way.

(cont.)

[Kurtlane]

He called Dean Elana Kagan of the Harvard Law School "an Eichmann-like bureaucrat," then added, "Were my mother still around, ... she would have taken the first train to Cambridge and - just as she did with the Nazi guards from Maidanek when confronting them at the postwar trial in Dusseldorf in 1979 - called Kagan a whore to her face and then throttled her."

(cont.)

[Kurtlane]

Another example is the mud-slinging fight into which he dragged Alan Dershowitz. First he called Alan Dershowitz "Adolf Eichmann" and accused him of expressing "Nazi moral judgments." Later he commissioned cartoonist Latuff to make a cartoon published on the Website indybay. The cartoon, titled "Dershowitz Hard at Work," shows Dershowitz at an "Israel peep show" masturbating with a rapturous look on his face as he views live film from Beirut of dead Lebanese.

(cont.)

[Kurtlane]

It was accompanied by an article written by Finkelstein titled "Should Alan Dershowitz target himself for assassination?"

This is not the worst of Finkelstein. The worst is his support for Hezbullah. But it should be enough. So how come he still enjoys such credibility and support after this?

(cont.)

[Kurtlane]

Finkelstein is a popular speaker among German neo-Nazis. Ingrid Rimland (wife of Ernst Zuendel) referred to him admiringly as the "Jewish David Irving"

In return, he praised David Irving as "a good historian!" and as having "made an indispensable contribution to our knowledge of World War II."

He has been fired by Brooklyn College, N.Y.U., and several other schools for incompetence, mental instability, and abuse of students.

(cont.)

[Kurtlane]

Finkelstein is not irrational, nor is he necessarily hateful. He is like a spokesman for a tobacco company who denies that smoking is harmful because his money and fame depend on it. He has found a pretty niche for himself, a sinecure, where he can make his money and earn prestige among the naive, leftist, and Jew-hating by demonizing his own people or attacking the only Jewish country. And always covers himself with "I am Jewish myself" and "my parents went through Holocaust."

(cont.)

[Kurtlane]

"[Finkelstein is] poison, he's a disgusting self-hating Jew, he's something you find under a rock." - Leon Wieseltier

My hunch is that Finkelstein doesn't hate Zionism at all. He's all pretence, and he's making money and fame. In a weird way, Zionism is feeding him.

[bigfatpig85]

You don't like Finkelstein cause he knows his material and calls out Israel on its bullshit. Try arguing against his points, instead of pathetic slander.

[Kurtlane]

pig (don't blame me, it's the name you chose for yourself), are there any points in Finkelstein's ramblings? I don't find any. All I find is slander and self-aggandizement.

[Kurtlane]

So, banana, do you masturbate looking at pictures of dead Jews? Should you target yourself for assassination?

Don't cry now, these are your hero's words. How does it feel when they are applied to you?

[bananito2]

@Kurtlane

Hero's words ?

there is no such thing Kuntlane

[Kurtlane]

banana, just go shoot yourself.

Jew-hating scum.

[bananito2]

No

but you plz go die in a fire

in your beloved Israel

[angjn]

Dershowitz did rather shoot himself in the foot claiming David Irving (not sure of spelling deserved what he got. Holocaust denial is ignorant and hateful but it should under no circumstances be classified as a criminal offence. If you damand free speech for yourself you must allow it for others, or it is meaningless.

[heyoooooooo0]

Holocaust denial is protected by free speech. I don't agree with holocaust denial, but freedom of speech is useless if it doesn't include the freedom of people who think differently. This speaker is abhorrent. He might as well be saying, "Opinions are ok, as long as i agree with them."

[heyoooooooo0]

Dershowitz...

[bananito2]

no it is not and also you cannot talk about any jew even if they rob your money at a national level

welcome to your so called "land of freedom"

And remember freedom of speech has always been an ilusion

[FreeIranStopIslam1]

Why do they still call it "radical"Islam? IT IS ISLAM. What radical? Islam is a pathetic, cult of murder full of violence, hate and misogyny. It is disguting. Look at every Islam countrie, all shitholes, Islam ruined my beloved Iran. Wake up you westerners, read the quran IT CALLS FOR YOUR MURDER.

[johannsobieski]

@FreeIranStopIslam1

an iranian atheist, you are welcome

[g00dfella613]

these videos need better audio.

[Kurtlane]

bigsoundz has just left the following on my profile:

"both you and I know you would never say the things you are saying to me in person because you would be picking up your teeth off of the sidewalk. zionist cowards don't impress me.

next time they put you in the oven; i'll bring the salad. "

Nice guy, what can I say. But I'm not scared of him.

[bigsoundz]

Brooke Goldstein should explain why so many Rabbis are convicted of sex offenses against small children. In NY they traced cases of genital herpes in infants to Rabbis that had the disease.

[Kurtlane]

bigsoundz, you also forgot to demand Brooke Goldstein explain why the dinosaurs disappeared. Did the Jews kill them?

Tell me what your nationality and religion are, so I can throw shit like that at you.

Your Jew-hatred shines bright and clear.

[bigsoundz]

You do know that one of the speaker's on this series was investigated for killing his wife?

[Kurtlane]

Yes, sure. And you do know that bigsoundz was investigated for raping his daughter.

Yes, sure. Alan Dershowitz. "Investigated" on Holocaust-denial site. He talks about it here at 11:25.

You can learn lots of interesting stuff on neo-Nazi sites. And it's all true. (sarcasm)

Do humanity a favor and shoot yourself in the head, digsoundz

[Bluefairy513]

@bigsoundz He speaks about this. Did you listen? Amazing how freedom of speech on the internet allows fucktards to make false claims and have other fucktards repeat them on Youtube.

[Kurtlane]

bogsoundz, I'm not scared of you.

My true name is David Tsal. My address is 1582 W. Ball Rd, apt. 25, Anaheim, CA 92802.

Come. I'll say those things to you in person. I might lose my teeth, but I still won';t be scared of you. And you will go to jail. It's a fair exchange.

[Kurtlane]

Oh yeah, bigsoundz, the next time you might be the first to go into the oven.

[SweetDissident]

The MEF also sponsor such freedom~loving activities as "Islamist Watch," and "CAIR Watch." They condone spying on law-abiding citizens, disrupting the daily lives of law-abiding citizens, etc. Also, to Doug, above, I have researched this group and its activites. You can do the same. I see sheer McCarthyism reborn. Especially the attack on academic freedom, which Dershowitz is the poster child for, having been exposed as the fraud he is by Finkelstein. Anyone can check it out and see.

[Kurtlane]

Hello, SweetDissident. We meet again.

I find your attempt to present those who are trying to save freedom of speech form new McCarthyism as McCarthyism to be hypocrisy of the highest degree.

Admit it, you just hate Alan Dershowitz. You don't know why you hate him, but you just hate him.

Or don't admit. I don't care.

Of course, the real fraud is Finkelstein.

[SweetDissident]

oh Kurtlane, I do admit it, I hate Dershowitz, he is a force of evil, and supports the degredation of the character of Israel, as long as it lines his pockets, and he otherwise couldn't give two wits about Israel. The man is a hoax, a liar, an accessory to murder, (twice), and doesn't even do his own research, he has his students do it for him. He is Joe McCarthy reborn, everything he purports to be for he is against, and yes, I hate him.

[Kurtlane]

Sweetie, I don';t believe a word you say here.

But it doesn't matter. You can hate Dershowitz all you want.

[SweetDissident]

Kurt, of course you don't believe me; you are too afraid to check into this for yourself, to see what you might find.

[Kurtlane]

Sweetie, I ain't afraid of nothin'.

However, I'm not about to run over the internet to check on every insanity someone claims. Just because someone says that earth is flat doesn't mean I have to believe it.

The world is too full of conspiracy nuts, and my life is too short.

In the past, I spent a lot of time checking into reports of current "Israeli attrocities."

(cont.)

[Kurtlane]

After hundreds of such "attrocities" (every single one I looked into) turned out to be more-or-less fakes, I stopped. At some point, after hundreds of fakes, one just has to assume all of them (the current ones) are fakes.

Same goes for overwhelming majority of current "American attrocities."

Some of the old ones (like the Lavon affair) turned out not to be fakes. I recognize that too.

(cont.)

[Kurtlane]

And a few American ones also turned out to be true. Like Abu Ghreib. However, considering what took place at Abu Ghreib (and a ton of other Abu Ghraibs in Iraq) before Americans got there...

At some point, one's own reason has to step in and say, "I don't believe all this nonsense." For example, I never bought into any 9/11 conspiracy stuff.

[Kurtlane]

Besides, you and your hero Finkelstein are fond of saying stuff that's not verifyable.

How does one verify whether Dershowitz is a "force of evil?" What's the definition for "force of evil?"

Stuff like this is called "libels."

[SweetDissident]

A "force of evil" is someone who condones and aids evil activities. As for evidence, is this a court of law? Do your own homework, I have. Not difficult at all to do. This is a silly You Tube comments forum, not a publication in a scholarly journal, or report, or news article, it's You Tube. And I said what I have to say.

Take care throwing the word "libel" around, as your hero Dershowitz is guilty of it to his teeth.

[Kurtlane]

Right. This isn't a court of law, so everyone can blabber whatever they want. And they do

As your hero Finkelstein once admitted, "In academia, you can say anything as long as it is footnoted" (speech at Yale on Nov 10 2005)

A lie is still a lie, and a libel is still a libel, whether in court or not

You must remember this:

A fist is still a fist

A knife is still a knife

A lie is still a lie

The fundamental things apply

As life goes by

Take care throwing lies and libels around

[SweetDissident]

And you take care doing the same, as you are so ignorant and stupid not to realize that Finkelstein said that in reference to another author's libel/and or plagiarism. It's called sarcasm, you tool.

[Kurtlane]

Oh, interesting. So he said it in reference to someone else, but in fact described himself.

It's called projection.

[bananito2]

actually douchewitz is the definition of snake or a rat

slippery, poisonous, and panics when attacked

[SweetDissident]

No, Doug, its not that simple. The courts decide how libel is defined~not me, surely you know this.

I think people should be free to express themselves any number of ways. And to criticize a religion I suppose is fair game. I think if you look into the background of this story, which I have, you'll find it went far beyond "criticism" of a religion; the courts found certain authors who~ lacking scholarship~ resort to libel, guilty of libel. See for yourself, do your own research. I did.

[Doug1943]

SweetDissident: could you give an example to back up your claims? What is your definition of "libel"? If I say that a particular religion is stupid, or backward, or misogynist, or anti-scientific... is that "libel"?

[SweetDissident]

"Lawfare," right. Note to MEF participants and libelists: don't commit libel, and you won't be successfully sued for it. This group simply foments hatred and antagonizes. They have no scholarship, so they attack those who do. Check out their other "freedom~loving" activities such as "Campus Watch." This is sheer McCarthyism reborn. Look at Dershowitz; I'm telling you, you are looking straight at the Joe McCarthy of the 21st century. SHAME ON HARVARD!!!