This is the ultimate extension of the 'no true christian' fallacy. That to be a true christian one must adhere to specific things is hardly a new or interesting idea; Martin Luther had 95 theses all about this.
Isn't it more compelling that christians can be functional atheists at all? If they accept everything then they are not rejecting the personal relationship with jesus unlike actual unbelievers.
It seems that the metaphorical hand is reaching out but nothing is there to take it.
This book was awesome. I'll admit that he's not the best marketer but there is nothing fake or scheming behind this book. Hands down, one of the best Christian books I've read. There is a LOT of stupid crap out there but I'm telling you, this is totally legit. Ha, no magic healing or snake handling here.
@PostITnoteGUY Unless you use the Bible to support everything your saying, then your just plain right and it isn't conceit. Biblically, we can find the radical call Jesus asked of his followers, we can find the need to repent and fight worldly sin, and we find the need to live humbly and help the poor (as well as tons of other stuff). We can't say "Your a Christian and your not a Christian", but we can test people according to the standard. "You will know false prophets by their fruit"
Hey ah, Craig? you didn't "invent" the term "Christian Atheist" just look it up on wikipedia. A Christian Atheist, is one who does NOT believe in God, yet lives by the moral teachings of Jesus.
What you're describing should probably be called an Atheist Christian, one who, as you say, believes in God but lives as though he doesn't exist.
And I only take exception to it because I am "Christian Atheist" on yahoo answers, and I'll be starting a podcast based around it soon.
America was never a christian nation! If people would simply DO THE RESEARCH they would realize that many of our founding fathers were in fact NON-CHRISTIANS such as Thomas Jefferson, John Quincy, Ben Franklin, George Washington, etc. Fact is these brilliant men knew that christianity was BS and they were what's called deists! Jefferson went as far as to modify his bible! He removed all of the superstition and super natural including jesus magical powers hence he came up with Jefferson bible!
@shotgunxsamurai I have done the research bud, you haven't no doubt! Try reading some of the writings of the men you think were theists. You won't because it would scare you to see their thoughts on the super natural.
Yes brother, stay ignorant. To research and find the truth is exactly what the religious authorities DIDN'T/DON'T want people to do. You seriously don't believe that your holy book is perfect and from a god, do you? It's not. Your holy book has been and continues to be modified by common man. Your god is nothing more than a god made in man's image for the goal of controlling the masses which has worked extremely well for centuries.
Sigh, what's the point, you're plugged in the matrix!
@patrickledford420 Thank you for your comment! I believe it's likely more than 17% but you have closet atheists! In addition, I think it's a growing number of people that are realizing that "why am I believing in this extra ordinary claim without extra ordinary evidence to support it?"
@PostITnoteGUY there are many ways to worship god im christian and there are many different ways to worship. like dancing i dance or singing or just thanking him for everything it doesnt have to be something crazy it can be simple
@ElProximo I said the statement "I believed in god but i did not know him intimately" was the WTF moment. It just sounded creepy. The colloquial use of the phrase "intimate" makes the whole thing just creepy. (Sorry, I am honestly having a real problem coming up with another word other than "creepy")
I am an atheist but i do agree with what this guy said.
This guy said "I believed in god but i did not know him intimantly through christ?" WTF???? No wonder the Catholic church is having issues. Honestly, do these people even think about the crap they spew before posting a video. I mean..it's just way to funny to make fun of this stuff.
that is completely wrong, a christian atheist, cause you still believe in a god but dont follow the rules. If anything they are lukewarm christians. book title, FAIL!
Love is PATIENT and kind; love is NOT JEALOUS or boastful;...it is NOT ARROGANT or rude. Love does NOT INSIST ON ITS OWN WAY; it is not irritable or RESENTFUL;...it does not rejoice at wrong, but rejoices in the right...Love bears all things, believes all things, hopes all things, endures all things...LOVE NEVER FAILS; as for prophecies, they will pass away; as for tongues ,they will cease; as for knowledge, it will pass away.. 1Cor 13:4-8
Also I am sure you believe [1 Cor 13:5] Love...keeps no record of wrongs.
And [1John 4:18.8] There is NO FEAR IN LOVE, but perfect love CAST OUT FEAR. For fear has to do with punishment, and he who fears is not perfected in love. Then 1) it is clearhe keeps no record of wrongs and does not judge.
2) he is not and can not be a jealous God.
3) he has no ego and can not demand to or wish to be worshiped or placed before any other
atheism is the belief there is no god therefore it is a logical contradiction to say what you are saying
nottinmatterz2day 1 month ago
This is the ultimate extension of the 'no true christian' fallacy. That to be a true christian one must adhere to specific things is hardly a new or interesting idea; Martin Luther had 95 theses all about this.
Isn't it more compelling that christians can be functional atheists at all? If they accept everything then they are not rejecting the personal relationship with jesus unlike actual unbelievers.
It seems that the metaphorical hand is reaching out but nothing is there to take it.
unkledanbot 1 month ago
This book was awesome. I'll admit that he's not the best marketer but there is nothing fake or scheming behind this book. Hands down, one of the best Christian books I've read. There is a LOT of stupid crap out there but I'm telling you, this is totally legit. Ha, no magic healing or snake handling here.
tjonesbusiness 1 month ago
It's called Apathetic Atheism. Craig has the guts to confess his Christian struggle. Bravo
you2tuber226 3 months ago
anyone who buys this book is a moron
donavon 3 months ago
That's a stupid term.
EucharistOfHypnos 3 months ago
@PostITnoteGUY Unless you use the Bible to support everything your saying, then your just plain right and it isn't conceit. Biblically, we can find the radical call Jesus asked of his followers, we can find the need to repent and fight worldly sin, and we find the need to live humbly and help the poor (as well as tons of other stuff). We can't say "Your a Christian and your not a Christian", but we can test people according to the standard. "You will know false prophets by their fruit"
shipleyshipster 4 months ago
Hey ah, Craig? you didn't "invent" the term "Christian Atheist" just look it up on wikipedia. A Christian Atheist, is one who does NOT believe in God, yet lives by the moral teachings of Jesus.
What you're describing should probably be called an Atheist Christian, one who, as you say, believes in God but lives as though he doesn't exist.
And I only take exception to it because I am "Christian Atheist" on yahoo answers, and I'll be starting a podcast based around it soon.
iceman8067 5 months ago
sheep to market. It is sad.
scotttebben 8 months ago
Satan Is A Winner.
AndHellFollowedMe 9 months ago
absolutely true....thanks for posting this clip...
TheOriginalroots 9 months ago
This has been flagged as spam show
You are not an Atheist and never were, stop lying. Atheists do not believe in a God or Gods.
christinepeace 9 months ago
i thought you were a cartoon when i saw the video pic. lol
iftheyonlynew 9 months ago
100 % true!
nojeezy 1 year ago
America was never a christian nation! If people would simply DO THE RESEARCH they would realize that many of our founding fathers were in fact NON-CHRISTIANS such as Thomas Jefferson, John Quincy, Ben Franklin, George Washington, etc. Fact is these brilliant men knew that christianity was BS and they were what's called deists! Jefferson went as far as to modify his bible! He removed all of the superstition and super natural including jesus magical powers hence he came up with Jefferson bible!
99minerkc 1 year ago
@99minerkc hahahahaha are you serious right now? try reading the constitution bud, and do a little research of your own.
shotgunxsamurai 10 months ago
@shotgunxsamurai I have done the research bud, you haven't no doubt! Try reading some of the writings of the men you think were theists. You won't because it would scare you to see their thoughts on the super natural.
99minerkc 10 months ago
@99minerkc
thats the point.... God wants us to have FAITH....
Faith comes from what is heard, and what is heard comes through the message about Christ. Romans 10:17
ABRweber 8 months ago
Yes brother, stay ignorant. To research and find the truth is exactly what the religious authorities DIDN'T/DON'T want people to do. You seriously don't believe that your holy book is perfect and from a god, do you? It's not. Your holy book has been and continues to be modified by common man. Your god is nothing more than a god made in man's image for the goal of controlling the masses which has worked extremely well for centuries.
Sigh, what's the point, you're plugged in the matrix!
99minerkc 8 months ago
he said that 94% of americans beleive in god, no sir, 17% of people are now atheists in america
patrickledford420 1 year ago
@patrickledford420 Thank you for your comment! I believe it's likely more than 17% but you have closet atheists! In addition, I think it's a growing number of people that are realizing that "why am I believing in this extra ordinary claim without extra ordinary evidence to support it?"
99minerkc 1 year ago
@PostITnoteGUY there are many ways to worship god im christian and there are many different ways to worship. like dancing i dance or singing or just thanking him for everything it doesnt have to be something crazy it can be simple
lilisback 1 year ago
@ElProximo I said the statement "I believed in god but i did not know him intimately" was the WTF moment. It just sounded creepy. The colloquial use of the phrase "intimate" makes the whole thing just creepy. (Sorry, I am honestly having a real problem coming up with another word other than "creepy")
I am an atheist but i do agree with what this guy said.
MrJmm999 1 year ago
This guy said "I believed in god but i did not know him intimantly through christ?" WTF???? No wonder the Catholic church is having issues. Honestly, do these people even think about the crap they spew before posting a video. I mean..it's just way to funny to make fun of this stuff.
MrJmm999 1 year ago
that is completely wrong, a christian atheist, cause you still believe in a god but dont follow the rules. If anything they are lukewarm christians. book title, FAIL!
theoryofkirk 1 year ago
How do you know you are a real christian and fred phepls or pat robertson are not.
How do you know who has been really saved or not. How does this manifest.
The end of mark tells us some of the things real chistians can do. Can you do these things?
gusb232 1 year ago
People are Christian-atheist because being a true Christian would be crazy- giving up all your belongings for example.
Ebuverthebicepcurler 1 year ago
Greetings, I hope you are well
Fear God? Do you believe you should fear God your God wants you to fear him?
justbekindtooall 1 year ago
These verses may be able to explain it better.Hebrews 12:28-29
Accune 1 year ago
Please allow me with respect to examin that belief and what the bible has to say..
I will assume you believe 1 John 4:8 ...God is love.?
justbekindtooall 1 year ago
I will also assume you believe 1Cor 13:4-8
Love is PATIENT and kind; love is NOT JEALOUS or boastful;...it is NOT ARROGANT or rude. Love does NOT INSIST ON ITS OWN WAY; it is not irritable or RESENTFUL;...it does not rejoice at wrong, but rejoices in the right...Love bears all things, believes all things, hopes all things, endures all things...LOVE NEVER FAILS; as for prophecies, they will pass away; as for tongues ,they will cease; as for knowledge, it will pass away.. 1Cor 13:4-8
justbekindtooall 1 year ago
Also I am sure you believe [1 Cor 13:5] Love...keeps no record of wrongs.
And [1John 4:18.8] There is NO FEAR IN LOVE, but perfect love CAST OUT FEAR. For fear has to do with punishment, and he who fears is not perfected in love. Then 1) it is clearhe keeps no record of wrongs and does not judge.
2) he is not and can not be a jealous God.
3) he has no ego and can not demand to or wish to be worshiped or placed before any other
justbekindtooall 1 year ago
4) he does NOT insist on his own way
5) Does not want to be feared in any way.
And 6) does not punish.
justbekindtooall 1 year ago