Diamond Radeon HD 4870 X2 review

[linux2442]

do they have a pcie graphics card thats compatible with my pc??

[jackgalloway256]

@linux2442 I recommend that you just buy or build a new system, This card will NOT fit by any means, and it doesnt include a low profile bracket, because that would be stupid. Also, a PC as old as that won't even have PCIe, only AGP, which you can rarely find cards for that even perform close to modern budget cards.

[linux2442]

ohh i forgot,,its 10.5 inches long

[linux2442]

will it fit on a dell optiplex gx260??please leave a comment

[tyler5310]

@linux2442 Nope...

[SUNNYRAINWIND]

Hey I got confused but now I get it. Its 550w for the 4870 and 650w for the 4870x2.

[SUNNYRAINWIND]

If it fits in yours it will fit in mines we have about the same space. Looks 100% the same actually hehe.

[rockhopper123452]

whats thebest graphices card

[MrChupachaps]

hey ! i wanted to ask you a tiny question about the other review about the vapor x 6770 !! do you think i would be able to play crysis 1 on i5 2500k and vaporx 6770

in 1024x768 res in 60 steady fps ?

i have seen all your graphics cards reviews and waiting for more :)

[TheSkittlesNerd]

@MrChupachaps no

[rymax99]

nice rig, but you should use the i7 you show in one of your other videos, and run it open case with a fan blowing in it, it would be absoultly kick ass

[MaximumHuge]

free boobs on my channel!

[DragonClawBG]

I have the Sapphire HD 5570, the DDR5 one, which also supports ATI CrossFireX. It's overclocked and does well, but I'm planning to save money for a better one. Should I get another 5570 in crossfire, or I'd better save almost twice as much money and get a new 5770? I don't play many games and 5570 is actually enough for now. Thanks.

[nelizmastr]

@DragonClawBG the only point for using crossfire is gaming. if youre not into that and the card is working out fine for you, then dont change anything. if youre getting a big monitor, then you'll need to upgrade. (21.5 inch and up)

[northpaw2000]

Price please.

[northpaw2000]

WTF No vga or hdmi

[NekkuhGaming]

Hello man i wanna ask this thing that should i buy this or the palit 450gts :) im going to get a new gpu and my budget is 100euros my friend is selling me it for the 100euros my processor is Phenom II x4 920 so wich do you recommend 4870 X2 or 450 Gts btw my psu is 500w

[TheWONDERBOYZ1]

your sound like asian..

[lordplato92]

What's your Asus PC motherboard model number? Please reply!

[superclaw900]

so let me get this straight, the 4870x2 was two replace the 3870x2, and the 5970 was to replace the 4870x2, now a new card (part of the 6000 series graphics cards) will replace the 5970?

THATS ALL PRETTY CONFUSING

[Defrontus]

@superclaw900 yes, in a few days, the radeon hd 6990 will be launched, it has a dual gpu like the 5970, but it is far better

[superclaw900]

@Defrontus sweet ima buy it when it comes out, as long as its under 1 grand

[NikolaGB]

Give me your PC NOW!

[NikolaGB]

Give me your ps NOW!

[MAST3RTYC00N]

That's some Kick-ass graphics card! xD

[ryanfong1]

lucky dog

[ThaDreamZz]

A friend of mine plays on same processor but i just want to be sure :)

[ThaDreamZz]

Can some1 help me?

I want to play Black Ops with christmas.

My current Set-up is: athlon x2 5000+ @ 2.7 ghz, 2gb ram and GeForce G210

If i want to play black ops i have to change my videocard and maybe processor.

The HD5770 is my choice. But i thought maybe i have to change the precessor first. What should i do to get the best performance? First a videocard or first a processor?

[jaw2floor]

@ThaDreamZz Upgrade your processor.

[ThaDreamZz]

@jaw2floor friend of my can play it good on 5000+

[jaw2floor]

@ThaDreamZz I have a 5600+ which is faster than a 5000+. And I also have a GTX 465. Black Ops laggs loads.

[ThaDreamZz]

@jaw2floor that has nothing to do with videocard and graphics card

[DJ2PointOh]

1:14 THATS WHAT SHE SAID

[flubberjub234]

@DJ2PointOh lol

[XxMrPiChUxX]

What kinda card would this be compared to for the HD Radeon 5000 series cards?

[AsianPerson3]

@XxMrPiChUxX  The HD 5870

[hazza1o1]

can u plz tell me if this card is better than my hd 5450 1gb?

[AsianPerson3]

@hazza1o1 Yeh This card is equal to or better than a 5870. But it doesn't support DX11 as the 5xxx series.

[fademan]

card is fucking noisy ... on full spin

sounds similar to 3 dvd roms at full speed at the same time ...

[no1Reality]

@snth3

yes

[no1Reality]

5:47 FUCKING LIER!!!!!!!!

[strumster117]

hey, should i get a gts 250 or a radeon 4870? the 2 are close in price, and i need a card by next week for FFXIV lol thanks

[jony1710]

if i don't get surround sound, is there any point in getting a sound card? not relevant. sorry bout that.

[MzS7]

crossfire for this card is useless since it mostly run most available games on maxed out settings

[flyingbob5]

I can never compare these to geforce, I'm guessing this one is much better than the Nvidia Geforce 9500 GT?

[no1Reality]

pzwizkid you suck!!!!

[1mper1alGuardsMen]

i hate you pcwiz

[MowCroft]

Hey PCwizkid! some friend sells me this vid-card, but here in latin-american all this techs are more expensive, as u know, because for too many reasons, but... u recommend me to buy this one? he wants 510us (in 6 pays), he bought the card 1 year ago, he never used it really, he just OC it, but he isnt a real pc user, so u recmend me to paid this 510us or lower? is it expensive?.. plz help me!

[IchimaruGinStudios]

@MowCroft its fucking expensive

[MowCroft]

@IchimaruGinStudios :O Thx, but.. I dont know how to buy it in any other way here in Mexico, only by online-stores, and he wants 6 weekly pays of 80us each. But how much is there in the US?

[Thezzephyr]

If i play games like crysis or metro 2033 my 4870x2 can keep my room warm all alone in the winter. It helps keeps my feet warm on LAN party also

[stallions1104]

well can you just tell me which power supply i have to use for this graphic card....... pls help.............

[battlefieldguy21]

i also got a card that looks alot like this one a ati sapphire hd 4670 1gb gddr3 but it doesnt run so smooth any tips??

[CameronSung123]

@battlefieldguy21 You can get another 4670 to run in Crossfire or just get a 4850

[jacobmcr858]

Wow. Everything I was gong to ask about the 5770 has already been asked. thx guys.

[Ubikzz]

u r the man

[djskarpen]

which one is best 4870 x2 or 5770?

[PCWizKid]

@djskarpen, the 4870x2 is faster, but the 770 runs cooler and is quiet. The 4870x2 is louder because it heats up more and the fan needs to run at higher speeds.

[koora8]

@PCWizKid but which can deliver better graphics?? i know 770 is DX11 but still not the top in its class if im not wrong .

[BKsMassive]

@PCWizKid

have you got a Review for Sapphire 5850 Toxic 2GB? :)

[AeroFix94]

@PCWizKid and the drivers sucks to the Hd 4870 X2 dude :) thats why many buy new ones! but i want one of them anyway! :)

[miniclip876]

@PCWizKid Hi, My PC has 256MB of ram is that why my PC is slow

Bye miniclip876

P.S Its DDR

[ipnhesbro]

@djskarpen 4870 but the 5770 has direct x 11 but i asume you play games so go with a 5870 5850...or wait for the hd 5890 =D

[MarklarRavencrest]

@djskarpen 4870x2 > 5770

[1mper1alGuardsMen]

@djskarpen

now 4870x2 > 5870 and is true ^_^

[mcprovido]

@djskarpen

neither is the best lol. if you're asking which one is better the 4870x2 is much faster than the 5770. it's not even close

[AeroFix94]

@djskarpen the HD 4870 X2 but is more noiser than the Hd 5770 + the HD 5770 has DX11 and the HD 4870 X2 does not! the HD 4870 X2 is faster than the HD 5870 also :D

[Stav1966]

@djskarpen basically 4870 x2 kicks 5770's ass high and low from heaven to hell from china to europe

[Loocifur]

@Stav1966 Your the best!

[AeroFix94]

@djskarpen the HD 4870 X2 is alot faster! and needs like 3x more power like a 850w is good :) and more heat more louder and the drivers isint so good to this card! but it works with the newest games! so buy one of them dude! fuck the HD 5770 or get an HD 5870 :) fuck the Hd 5770 dude!

[masik7290]

@AeroFix94 you relied to a 7 month old comment, im sure he made up his choice by now xD

[gusnhde93]

@djskarpen XAXAXAXXAXA 4870x2 is 2X faster than 5770 ;D

[TheRadoman]

@djskarpen 5770 is Faster and easy to overclock take 5770

[TheLarlas]

Yeah, I know this is he wrong video, but...

Thanks for the great cursor.

[heythisrocks]

u know alot about video cards i got a question i have the diamond S9250 PCI 256 DDRyea i know i have dvr not dvr2 but do u know any better cards i can run on my dell intel(R) Celeron(R) CPU 2.40GHz 2.39GHz 760MB of RAM dude i need shader i cant run hardly any games i mean halo1 oflone is reall lagg i play archlord im lvl 67 but im so lagg the places i have to go to fight now its imposible to even play the game i only have 1.4 shader i play crossfire alot of games i jsut need a better video card

[NoneImparticular]

I'm getting a 1200W for 3 ATI Radeon HD 5870 in crossfireX

[ipnhesbro]

you should wait for the 5890 =D im getting those in crossfire :)

[tucsondog]

Your wither bullshitting us or one lucky SOB.

[TheRenegade217]

so ?

[spectre1050]

is the 4870 x2 still being manufactured? i cant find it anywere=( or can i?

[GamePlayUpload]

Make a Video on

HD5970 X2 2GB

[1mper1alGuardsMen]

@GamePlayUpload

crazy lol

[niels2029]

6:00 he removed the diamond sticker omg....... you reviewed a diamond graphic card and you removed its sticker?????

[xLEGENDZz]

Calm down it's probably a google pic.

[VeryCoolMax]

HD 5850 is better than 4870 x2 ??

[1mper1alGuardsMen]

4870x2 >5850

[VeryCoolMax]

Why do u think so HD 5850 price is lower it's newer and DX 11(but who cares)))

[BKsMassive]

can you get DX on the 4890?

[VeryCoolMax]

And Shader models 5.0 !

[BKsMassive]

the 4870x2 is only a bit better than the 4890 ;)

[LeighPing]

The point is?

[MrAdex10]

to show what people need not 4 u

[ipnhesbro]

not...it's a x2 4870 a 4890 is a bit better then a 4870...<.<

[MrAdex10]

upgread your RAM buy 4 GB and use GTX9800 2 GB 1 or 2 of that its ok. well i hope that help u

[1mper1alGuardsMen]

@

BKsMassive

4870x2 35%>4890

[FsimulatorX]

how much does this costs?

[Kommandant10]

hoooooooo hoooooooooooooo one moment plz my default temp is 76 normal and 90 on load...maybe your air-flow is good with all those cooling stuff

[TimeWePretend]

So, Which is better? This, or the 5770? Because the 5770 is ser for DX11, this card is DX10

[PCWizKid]

@TimeWePretend , the HD4870x2 is a Dual GPU card that does beat the HD5770 by itself. Also Two HD4890's beat a HD5850.

[TimeWePretend]

Okay, thanks. Do you know if the 5770 can come in a dual GPU?

[PCWizKid]

@TimeWePretend, no the HD5770 does not come and will not come in a dual GPU x2 configuration, you need to buy 2 cards and have them in crossfire instead.

[TimeWePretend]

Thank you!

[halfpol]

no for!

[Dorisequador]

@TimeWePretend They should have made a dual 5770 GPU x2

because it was a incredable new chip and powerful and runs cool.

This should have benn brought out instead of the 4870 but i guess they wanted to rush the dual cards and the new tech worked.

[speedp95]

i have the ATI 5770 from XFX and i can play all games in high settings and i get 1019 GPU points in 3DMARK Vantage without OC...

[turb0strid3r]

When installing a new graphics card, do you delete the old cards drivers before or after you put the new card in.

[sitothebrave]

before

[TupacxKobexBiggie]

@turb0strid3r before or after it doesnt really matter. Just if your deleting it after, delete the old driver THEN restart and then install your new driver for your new card

[CRAZYCRAZYKEITH]

what kind of sound card is that

[500Banshee]

im on a 1300$ budget looking for en entire new system as this dell dimension 2350 is literally falling apart. 3 months ago the processor mount exploded sending 1 of the metal clips into the processor fan breaking off 1 and a half blades. and its about 7 - 8 years old. also its a dell so i cant overclock this little 2.2 Ghz P4.

im looking to build a new system on ibuypower and cant decide between the 4870 or the 5750. ive read lots of reviews and just cant decide some say 4870 for preformance

[500Banshee]

some say 5750 will be better in the long run if i match it with another 5750 in a few months witch i will most likely do.

new system will be an i7 920 oced to 3.2 - 3.6 just depends on how it runs when i get it. a 24 inch 1080p monitor. 6 gig of 1600 ram. 700W PSU.

so im wondering if i should go with a 4870 or a 5750. note that later on down the road i can add a second card (4870 x2 or 5750 x2) thats why im leaning towards the 5750 (DX 11)

i would really like to hear your thoughts wizkid

[halfpol]

Radeon 4870 faster radeon 5750! 100%

[jennso1990]

i have this card but im getting some problems the core clock and mem clock r set to 507 and 500 and wen i try to overclock it dosent change any clues also it makes 10-14 fps in crysis strange right? im in windows 7 catalyst version 9.10

[3DiegoF]

whats better hd 4870 x2 or gtx 275

[halfpol]

radeon 4870x2 BEtter ~16%

[halfpol]

5870,4870x2 faser gtx 275

[donkeyboy2k7]

is there a cheaper option with good performance? help please

[donyp123]

if you arelooking for a cheaper option, the best thing to do would be buy a single 4870, they are half the priceof the gtx 275 and the performance difference is minor. or buy 2 and put them in cross fire, and it would blow the gtx 275 out of the water

[PCWizKid]

@donkeyboy2k7 yes get the 4890 or the new HD5770

[halfpol]

4890 faster 5770!

[CBAtheBboy]

how much does it costs?

[SimsCreedGuy]

hmm if i overclock this farther it might equal to a 4890x2 lol

[petronasf1]

question can i have a ATI Radeon 4870 not x2 can i over clock it as well?

[PCWizKid]

@petronasf1, yes you can, watch my other video review of a HD 4870 from Sapphire.

[zeozionistic]

What kind of case are you using in this vid?

[wyorattler]

Great info... More info than came with the book... >: | from Sapphire... I kind of nuked the two power connections at the time did not know if I needed one or the other OR both... This was the only place I could find that addressed that issue.

AGAIN THANKS!

[j0ze1]

I bought a sapphire hd 4870 x2, and the card looks exactly like this one, my friend also has the same card as me but it looks different, has some girl on the front of it, whats up with that?. damn store must secretly exchange video cards to diff brands. bunch of bs, but nice card

[AJSokrates]

its just brands when you have girl I guess its Sapphire.

[godofnoa]

I have the same gpu, love it.

[Gangsterevo]

Your benchmark on Bisoshock is wrong.

on standard Clock 750 and 800 it will do 90-150 Fps, if you do not have vertical sync on. what this dose is limites your fps to 60, thats why u only got 60 -63 on mass affect and biso shock.

[PCWizKid]

@Gangsterevo, you are correct about vsync, most benchmarks are done with vsync off, not on. If you watch my latest video on the Phenom II x2 550 you will see I got very high fps on bioshock this time. Take a look :)

[fknpoewnd]

Why do you use a 2GB Graphic Card @ 1280x1024 ????

[PCWizKid]

@fknpoewnd , good questions, I only had that monitor at the time, now I do reviews at 1660x1050 with my new LCD, you can see the results in other videos I did . Cheers

[thore022]

yea that is a bit overkill

[QirexOnyx]

I Prefer GTX 295.Personal Opinion.

[velo50]

it is low end now.

[MarcusCardiff]

It's hardly low end.

Pompous twit.

[velo50]

I replied to another comment by someone who then deleted his comment resulting in my reply remaining on this page so it looks as if im saying it about this card.

This card is no where near low end.

Thank you for calling me a Popmpous Twit much better than otehr insults

....

[MarcusCardiff]

I appologise, Sorry I insulted you.

I just get fed up with fan boys who insist that anything but the best is rubbish.

I mistakenly thought that was what you meant.

[leefost]

lol right on lol, low end what a dick its the second best card money can buy

[MysteryRidahz]

hey pcwizkid you must use crt monitors?

way to go, thats all i use, lcd isn't dumb, but i rather use crt monitors.

[undeadshooter]

it's up to you what you use MysteryRidahz

personally I prefer LCD monitors because they dont take up so much room on the desk, but I admit there's not much different in quality between the 2

[MysteryRidahz]

Yea LCD is nice to use, i may get  use one when i pick up my gateway quad core, just to see how it works out. Whats the similar resolution to 1280x1024 using LCD?

[thore022]

i would go for something with 1680x1050. 1280x1024 just seems plain out small. i lived on for a year and when i stepped up to 1920x1080 i couldnt beleive what i was missing out on

[AJSokrates]

LOL you want install Intel Mermory for AMD???

FAIL?

[kassu09]

its not intel memory.... its not made for intel its just intel edition!

[AJSokrates]

yes, but it may supports with only intel cpu...

[kassu09]

yea it does only support intel :( sry man

[exelsis2401]

a monster card lol^^ and he is using a fridge for cpu cooling hehehe

[sparks12001]

thats actual pretty normal even for a heatsink/fan combo...

[moosegrizzly]

can i run 2 of these on corsair 750w psu

[aznturtle1]

noo... dont even do it u need at least 1000watt (not a cheap 1000watt)

[richie895]

damn look at ur cpu cooler its fucking

gigantic

[darkblood626]

why 1280X 1024???

[McgregorKLB]

question 4 PCWizKid,

@ 3:42 i see your catalyst settings..

I have the sapphire 4870x2 (since yesterday) and i'm not that happy so far, but i think i have to change sum settings

First of all : my Current Values ar 507Mhz-500Mhz. and in everest it says 62GB/s bandwidth and gpuz 115gb/s.

My GPU score Vangate was 11720 and the phenom 940 was 7947.

On a nother mobo i use to have 30320 for the CPU. is it becouse of the "green-chipset" AMD 790GX. thank you very much! I'm thinking of selling it...

[PCWizKid]

@McgregorKLB you need to check your GPU-z logs while running the card full load. If the card runs idle it defaults to 500Mhz , thats to save energy and less waste. When on full load it automatically goes up! If you are not sure to what it goes up to check the logs from GPU-z, have GPU-z running while you play a game.

[xxpoonednoobxx]

Hello, I was shocked about my 9800 GT. But this is normal, when you are doing nothing it stays on 2D clocks but, when you play a game it will go all the way up.

[McgregorKLB]

my ocz 600watt StealthXStream does great whit 4 hdd's x4 940 amd 3,7ghz. 1dvd. 3 fans. works great.. if vista would be less crappy...

[HeadChip]

are a Axpertec Xion 630W sufficient much do drive that card ? on my sytem

[PCWizKid]

Hi, you can get away with a good 600W PSU yes.

[HeadChip]

hello i have a sma card i have a question  is 550w the swiftly ? i need

[gezzy00]

Mass Effect !!!!!!

[CRussian92]

What would be better?

A). Ati Radeon HD 4890 1GB OR

B). Ait Radeon HD 4870 2GB ???

Thanks!

[superjuben]

how much performance increase do you have with a second 4870 x2?

[superjuben]

gtx 295 is about 20% faster when aa is off!!!

[gaffelnskje]

ist the gtx 295 MUCH bether then a radeon 4870x2 ? exept that it takes less power hehe :D

[PhenomTheGreat]

first off the 4870x2 is 2 old GPU'S. when the 4890x2 comes out it will slaughter the gtx 295

[GTA1456]

could i run this with 750watt power supply and would it run if i had a nvidia card in there before

[mongolian169]

lol is it worth overclocking my card? it gives me a danger message o.O (danger messages scare me lolz)

[Kalywonkas]

Keep the GPU heat below 50 degrees C and you're ok.

[tupac93013]

thanks dude your video helped me alot. i was looking for what psu i should use. i can use my 600watt now i dont have to buy a new one. thanks great video.

[tenshitaiakuma]

ok, if you can try to get your hands on a GTX 295 for review and comparasion with the 4870X2.

[tenshitaiakuma]

do you review nvidia parts

[PCWizKid]

Yes I do, I reviewed the Geforce 9800 GT a while back, I'll review a newer model soon hopefully.

[Ryuuken24]

I have the same card, but I've had shadow problems on some new games, like Silent hill 5. The shadows are crocked, and very squary. CAN'T install the new 9.3 catalyst, don't know why. But is there a way to fix the shadow problems ?