I have been KG and Toy Matinee fan for the past 15 years. I live in Europe (nobody now them here), heard about them from a friend of a friend. What strikes me, after all these years, why has he not got more of publicity, not even as a cult act?
just listening to this song makes me happy that at least we can always watch this fine group of musicians, even if it was for a short while in time. Kevin was so awesome...so definitely not an also ran!!(i think that would be Sheryl (Blow)Crowe)stupid greedy bitch
I remember my dad's boss bought him this record one year, and I listened to it all the time. It's so good. I wish there was more, but twenty years later it's still not old.
I am a 50 year old musician from Mississippi. Play the Blues Festivals, gig The reservior, recording sessions, etc. retired; anything that's smokin!...ha! BUT! My young son and I who is a drummer, started listening to Kevin Gilbert and Toy Matinee shortly after the "cassette" came-out. Jenny Jedge and everyhing is a great music. Last Plane Out. Great. It is refreshing to see Kevin's fine work again.
I have the original TM CD and the 5.1 surround sound disc (which is even more amazing than the original, imho). Probably one of my favorite "pop" recordings of all time.
I watched this for the first time with Toss Panos, my drum teacher who is on this video (1992?). I saw them at the Coach House back in the day. I will always be a fan and know he truly was a genius. I was broken when I heard from Toss about his death. One of those loses that will always be felt.
@looneybineastman it may very well be the only song that ever had those words in the lyrics! Rosanna came to one of Kevin's gigs at Tower Records once. She has good taste in music.
What's really tragic (besides this being the only release from a truly talented group, and it being largely ignored) is the story of his consideration by Genesis as a replacement for Phil Collins just prior to his death. Very sad he is no longer with us.
i can only dream what Kevin would have produced had he lived... i was luck enough to see him live at the troubador here in Los angeles & it was unbelieveable.... i was so broken when he died.... what a waste he was such a fuggin amazing talent and they put out one of the best albums ever ...
When this album came out I was floored. Ingenious arrangements, cerebral, topical lyrics, great musicianship, charisma, passion & flair. Apparently doing things REALLY right is the kiss of death for a band. Lately it's Kings of Leon, Nickelback's country sellout gimmick (sounds exactly like Rascal Fats but thinner singer), etc. This band was head and shoulders above anything I've heard in the last few years.
The Tuesday Music Club existed as a casual songwriting collective prior to its association with Crow, but rapidly developed into a vehicle for her debut album after her arrival (she was at the time dating Kevin Gilbert, who actually co-wrote most of the songs along with Crow, Baerwald, Ricketts, Bottrell, Schwartz and MacLeod). Her relationship with Gilbert became acrimonious soon after the album release and there were disputes about songwriting credits
Crow claimed to have written them in interviews later. Both Gilbert and Baerwald castigated Crow publicly , although Baerwald would later soften his position.
Kev fans should call out Sheryl Crowe and ask her to sell the reissues of his CD. It is quite disgusting thinking about the fact that she has went on and never gave them any mention.
Collectors Choice Music has recently re-issued this CD along with Third Matinee and Marc Bonilla's first two solo albums EE Ticket and American Matador.
Kevin was a musical genius. It breaks my heart that musicians like this are taken from us so early, while today's musicians add cancer and disease to the sick, bloated, rotting, gangrenous, music dinosaur that's begging to die.
I was one of the lucky ones to know Kevin for his talent, quirkiness, & loyalty to his friends. He was my friend for over 15 years & I love & miss him terribly. I remember sneaking in to venues where he was playing because we were both too young to be there. Kev and the other musicians had talent and wish I knew what the others were up to. All the talk about SC, the best that could happen is that everyone stop talking about her & that she drifts out of the music scene. Those guys were so wronged
if you truly knew him than i am jealous of you. He is my hero and affected me more than any other musician. The world lost more than a person the day he died. And SC deserves to be forgoten into musical obscurity. She ows it all to him and not a word of thanks..B!!!
Holy crap - I just realized that's Rosanna Arquette...TM is on my "desert island" album list The world is a seriously less talented place without Kevin Gilbert.
Stupid fools! Comparing Toy Matinee with Steely Dan. They're of different league, and Steely Dan is in a league of its own. If you want to compare TM with another band, try Toto, Men at work or Ace the group who sang How long.
Who's the fool here? Steely Dan was never a "band"; aside from Fagin & Becker it was a revolving door of studio musicians (hired guns). The only meaningful comparison is about songcraft, and I agree Toy Matinee's short body of work compares very well to the Dan's long (and often tedious) one.
uhm ok, let a third world guy teach a "western world" dude like you, LOL, they started out as a band mr. know everything, what's left are the core members (Fagen & Becker), and I know they've always been two working with diff. session musicians, if you have doubts let me know and I'll send you the links.
I replied on this post "I loved their fresh, Jazzy, Steely Dan-Meets rock sound" which has been the comparison of posters on TM's sound. And if you have not been slow to get my drift you would not have replied the way you do.Perhaps you're just the typical self-righteous, contentious loud mouth american who always have something to say about nothing. he he.
You tell 'em vee8iron1234 :-) I'm not a "contentious, loud mouth american", but I know what you mean. Yeah, this is pretty "Fageny"... Actually, it's part Fagen, part Level 42, part Toto, in my "non-contentious, loud mouth american" opinion :-)
I love this song. Too bad they cut out the fade-out ending, where he worked in the "Don't be cruel" lyric...that was one of the best parts of the tune, IMO. I was lucky enough to meet Kevin Gilbert once, and he was a very cool guy. He is one of my songwriting heroes.
A truly great band! I remember going out and buying the Cassette tape to play in my walkman at work, I wore that tape out and turned around and got the CD. Still have and play it often. Its one of my top twenty favorite albums of all time their is not one bad song on the album. It was so sad about Kevin and the future promise of many more great albums by this band also died with him. May he be at Peace.
I have something to say about Toy Matinee. I loved their fresh, Jazzy, Steely Dan-Meets rock sound and wish they were still around today. Whatever happened to Kevin Gilbert doesn't matter as much as his family and friends who loved and miss him. Seeing this video after al the years just reminds me of how pathetic the radio world has become when we couldn't even HEAR a band like this today without the Internet or MAYBE a good Independent Rock station like KFOG in San Francisco. RIP Kevin Gilbert.
borntorun1970, agree totally. Music in general, radio in particular, is in a dismal state. There is some music from our past we continue to enjoy and hold onto because it doesn't have a home in today's entertainment shit can.
Hey, ninnies...its "autoEROTIC asphyxiation" ...not "auto asyphxiation". Please get it right. People are getting the incorrect idea that Gilbert committed suicide. He didn't. He just screwed up while masturbating while cutting off his air supply. I didn't hear the details, but it probably involved something around his neck. He passed out--as happens tragically often--and didn't wake up.
I agree completely. But there will always be those who are hung up on propriety and honor, almost to the point that the acts of others reflects on them personally.
One summer I worked in an office & this song played many times. I had no idea who the band was or what the song was. I would just hear it sometimes just walking by and hearing snatches of it on the radio. Something about the wistful melancholy struck a chord even though it wasn't my kind of music back then. Years later, I read of Kevin Gilbert's death & how Toy Matinee was a cult favorite. Then I heard this song again & remembered it as that memorable, touching song from years ago.
Yes, Auto Asphyxiation. But, as I understand it, that event was preceeded by Cheryl Crowe taking all the credit for her grammy for "Leaving Las Vegas", a song he wrote. He let her into the Saturday Night Music Club, and she basically screwed all of them (Gilbert, Baerwald) when she hit it big. So, in a secondary way, Sheryl Crowe killed Kevin Gilbert. Something TO THIS DAY she will not answer questions about.
That fucking sucks. Having lost my 18 year old son, Jason, to suicide, in 1995, it's a heartache from which you never recover. I find comfort in the belief that he is no longer in pain and that he knows now, of the love, he didn't realize here. The world has lost a talented musician and may he RIP.
Gilbert didn't commit suicide. All these people that are posting "Auto Asphyxiation" mean "Autoerotic (masturbatory) Asphyxiation. Look it up if you don't know what that is. It was an accident and these dorks are inadvertently spreading misinformation. He died getting his rocks of in a special way.
It's well known he had depression. Ask yourself why he "got his rocks off" that way in the first place. Because of the danger. That's the sort of freak accident you often find in people who don't truly want to die, don't want to forthrightly commit suicide, but yet have suicidal feelings. They take unneccesary risks, play Russian roulette, get in car accidents. To say he died in a freak accident doesn't change anything, because freak accidents happen more to the suicidal.
I appreciate your comments. What you say may ll be true, but it doesn't change the fact hat it wasn't suicide and I feel it's only esponsible to nip this rumor in the bud. It's robably true that the depressed have more run-ins with freak accidents, but is there really moral lesson here? What would it be? "Don't be depressed"? What happened to KG is tragic, but it doesn't diminish my opinion of him. either as a talented musician or as an ordinary human being.
Yeah his life was going decently up until the time he had died. I don't think he would plan on suicide while waiting to hear back from a Genesis audition (which he was accepted as the new front man).
A friend of mine introduced me to Toy Matinee around 1998, and after that I did my own research. The Saturday Night Music Club gave her THE big break, and she s*it on them. Look up David Baerwald, he still puts out great CD's. I just looked up Gilbert on IMDB to verify; he wrote a TON of Crowe's stuff. I hate her for what she did.. And, I am sorry for your loss. I have 2 daughters, 5 & 3, and would be lost without them...
My estranged husband introduced me to the Ballad of Jenny Ledge in 1993 (following our break up), relating ESPECIAllY to the lyrics of an "Also-Ran", when I was with someone else. I've loved the song ever since. After 1995, I was oblivious to EVERYTHING, including the death of Kevin Gillbert. Thanks for the info and your kind words.
Don't know if you are a Henley fan (or listening to song lyrics), but some of the most profound lyrics ever written (in my opinion), can be found in Henley's "New York Minute" and/or "Learn to Be Still" (on Eagles Hell Freezes Over) cd.
Even more disturbing: not only did Kevin Gilbert die (suicide??) but so did the guy who wrote the novel Leaving Las Vegas that inspired the song. He had severe depression and shot himself. Only a couple years older than Kevin Gilbert was.
If people like Toy Matinee they've far from heard the best stuff Kev was involved in. His solo stuff is considerably better in my opinion- and I find Toy Matinee an awesome band.
Loved this song and the entire Toy Matinee album. I'm 18 years too late to the party. Better late than never. This disc was better than 90% of what came out in 1990. So glad I discovered Kevin Gilbert. Taken way too soon. RIP Kev.
God Bless You, Master Gilbert. The wrath of karma shall be leveled upon Ms. Crow in due time.... Miss you, man. By the way, is that Rebecca DeMorney in the video? Couldn't get a good enough look...
Agree completely with Jimbo. Greatest album many of my friends have never heard. I only found out what happened to poor KG a few years back. The world lost an immensely talented artist. May he rest in peace.
Greatest debut effort I've ever heard. Every song on the cd is a hit.....amazing production. Kevin was a star on the rise but also a tortured soul.....we only knew the artist......thank you for what you left us.
"every song on the CD is a hit" -- exactly how I felt at the time. I was floored "man of reason" and this weren't top-5. Then again, I'm floored by most of the stuff that DOES make top-5.
Exactly. At the time, I couldn't figure out why each song (except Queen of Misery) wasn't all over the place. As it was, only this one really made it out the gate, and everybody thought it was Steely Dan. By the time this song hit the air, the cassettes had already been re-packaged with Dick Tracy and a third cassette in a three-for-one bargain bin disgrace. And when my sister picked up Dick Tracy, I wound up with Toy Matinee. Serendipity! Damn shame, though--all of it.
Thanks for posting. Haven't heard this in long time. I remember I was at Tower Records in Hollywood when this cd hit the streets. I bought it and never let go of it. Gilbert was a GEM!! Thanks again! Jon
One of the world's brightest stars extinguished on its fledgling ascent. Out, out, brief candle. Yet he's left us so much in so precious few albums.
Everyone I've ever played his music to is immediately impressed. He seems eminently likable as a person, and his warmth and wit color his music in a very unique, special way. I know 'we always come home'; I only wish he had not "come home" so soon.
Toy Matinee gets better every time I hear them. What a gifted musician (songwriter, engineer, singer, guitarist, lyricist, producer, arranger...>>> ad infinitum). I'd never seen any clips of him in action, though I've loved his music from the days when Toy Matinee first hit the stores.
Have missed this one since it was removed from youtube 8-9 months ago. Thanks for putting it up again!!! Please add more Kevin Gilbert films. Kevin deserves to be remembered not forgotten. It's a pity that his music is almost imposssible to get these days....
I know for a fact that Guy Pratt, who really played bass on this track isn't mentioned in the credits.
bhorv67 2 weeks ago
I have been KG and Toy Matinee fan for the past 15 years. I live in Europe (nobody now them here), heard about them from a friend of a friend. What strikes me, after all these years, why has he not got more of publicity, not even as a cult act?
Sjuupi 2 months ago 3
They should show the drummer more, he is totally kicking it on this one.
jbolio888 3 months ago
Drummer is smooth boy
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PhantomsPoet180 3 months ago
I tried so hard to finish this song but I just had to stop and listen to some Skillet to get it out of my system! Sorry Jen!
DisciplePanhead 3 months ago
Jen Ledger sent me.
Dav7DB 3 months ago 57
just listening to this song makes me happy that at least we can always watch this fine group of musicians, even if it was for a short while in time. Kevin was so awesome...so definitely not an also ran!!(i think that would be Sheryl (Blow)Crowe)stupid greedy bitch
79steelymatt 4 months ago
imagine if he had become the new singer of genesis....
Ducksrule123 7 months ago
@Ducksrule123 That could have easily happened, he was very versatile.
analyzingfunny 3 months ago
I remember my dad's boss bought him this record one year, and I listened to it all the time. It's so good. I wish there was more, but twenty years later it's still not old.
ebonerobinson 7 months ago
We do not discuss Sheryl Crowe and Kevin in the same sentence...
mitchqmitch 8 months ago 2
Great song from TM
nicholasjohnparry 9 months ago
We miss you Kevin. With Giraffe, Toy Matinee, all that great music with Patrick Leonard, you made us have great moment. I really love
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thelurker25 11 months ago
Fantastic song. I'm not a complete KG newbie, but I am just learning about Toy Matinee. Better late than never, as they say...
eldorado96 11 months ago
you are staring into nothing. Kevin was a GENIUS
jamesfuria 1 year ago
Props to Spencer Campbell on Bass.One of the best out there.
sextus 1 year ago 2
MAN! I LOVE TM AND KG..I BOUGHT THE CD BEFORE MY DAUGHTER WAS BORN...SHE IS NOW 21.
"TO BE HELD BY AN HONEST MAN" GREAT LYRIC! WHAT A SONG!!!!!!
joetires12 1 year ago
Jenny "Ledge"...sorry I didn't get it right first time...This music is killer
BooRad44 1 year ago
I am a 50 year old musician from Mississippi. Play the Blues Festivals, gig The reservior, recording sessions, etc. retired; anything that's smokin!...ha! BUT! My young son and I who is a drummer, started listening to Kevin Gilbert and Toy Matinee shortly after the "cassette" came-out. Jenny Jedge and everyhing is a great music. Last Plane Out. Great. It is refreshing to see Kevin's fine work again.
BooRad44 1 year ago
I have the original TM CD and the 5.1 surround sound disc (which is even more amazing than the original, imho). Probably one of my favorite "pop" recordings of all time.
gtrdave 1 year ago
Kevin Gilbert's - TOY MATINEE LIVE now available on CD! Guys the live versions ROCK!
I can still remember the 1st thing i thought when i heard Jenny for the 1st time.
"A Modern Day Steely Dan".
Its 2010 and this is still an amazing sonic masterpiece.
DenicioDelToro 1 year ago
@DenicioDelToro I thought it was a new release by Steely Dan when I first heard this song......great tune.
thechzman 1 year ago
@DenicioDelToro I thought that exact thing 20 years ago. What a shame.
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LittleStair1 1 year ago
Kevin Gilbert = master musician.
bpentium 1 year ago
artsake, Thanks for posting this great song! It is a fine tribute to Kevin Gibert
myloveybunny 2 years ago
I watched this for the first time with Toss Panos, my drum teacher who is on this video (1992?). I saw them at the Coach House back in the day. I will always be a fan and know he truly was a genius. I was broken when I heard from Toss about his death. One of those loses that will always be felt.
Thanks to all who keeps his music alive.
Gary Z,
OC drummer
garyzdenek1 2 years ago
gearles named jenny rule.
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myloveybunny 2 years ago
funny - yesterday I was trying to remember the song in which I heard the term "also ran."
looneybineastman 2 years ago
@looneybineastman it may very well be the only song that ever had those words in the lyrics! Rosanna came to one of Kevin's gigs at Tower Records once. She has good taste in music.
sonicreality 1 year ago
@sonicreality ....and Toto too!!
daveworx 1 year ago
I don't t mean to be shallow but...I would melt if this man, would have sung these words to me! Such a waste...RIP, Kevin!
myloveybunny 2 years ago
One, I can do this, for two, it is really* ironic that Sheryl Crow never thanked him. Tragic.
analyzingfunny 2 years ago 2
What's really tragic (besides this being the only release from a truly talented group, and it being largely ignored) is the story of his consideration by Genesis as a replacement for Phil Collins just prior to his death. Very sad he is no longer with us.
innerturbulence23 2 years ago 6
check out third matinee. Not as good without Kev, but still pretty cool.
daveworx 2 years ago
i can only dream what Kevin would have produced had he lived... i was luck enough to see him live at the troubador here in Los angeles & it was unbelieveable.... i was so broken when he died.... what a waste he was such a fuggin amazing talent and they put out one of the best albums ever ...
DAmn!
RaptorV1USA 2 years ago
Gilbert's voice was a cross between Donald
Fagen of Steely Dan and Robert Lamn of Chicago. He had the perfect rock and roll voice.
Awesome talent.
Gilyslas 2 years ago 2
When this album came out I was floored. Ingenious arrangements, cerebral, topical lyrics, great musicianship, charisma, passion & flair. Apparently doing things REALLY right is the kiss of death for a band. Lately it's Kings of Leon, Nickelback's country sellout gimmick (sounds exactly like Rascal Fats but thinner singer), etc. This band was head and shoulders above anything I've heard in the last few years.
drummnut 2 years ago
gawd i miss kevin gilbert .....
theotherkind44 2 years ago 3
Sheryl Crow...who is that??
GerryELode 2 years ago
The Tuesday Music Club existed as a casual songwriting collective prior to its association with Crow, but rapidly developed into a vehicle for her debut album after her arrival (she was at the time dating Kevin Gilbert, who actually co-wrote most of the songs along with Crow, Baerwald, Ricketts, Bottrell, Schwartz and MacLeod). Her relationship with Gilbert became acrimonious soon after the album release and there were disputes about songwriting credits
macklanders 3 years ago
Crow claimed to have written them in interviews later. Both Gilbert and Baerwald castigated Crow publicly , although Baerwald would later soften his position.
macklanders 3 years ago
FUCK SHERYL CROW!!!!
analyzingfunny 3 years ago 2
Hey I think holding back your feelings could lead to STRESS!!!!!
LMAO!!!! Go tape man!!!!
froggpond1 3 years ago
And FUCK YOU TOO!!!!!!
(wink)
analyzingfunny 3 years ago
Sheryl Crow should (by my calculations) rot in hell for treating him like an ass and not giving him ANY credit for his work on her first album.
analyzingfunny 3 years ago 4
We have a version of this in Canada-
Daryl Neudorf and Sarah MacLaughlin.
I'm still on his side, as I remember the promo from the first album clearly as I had submitted to Nettwerk myself- "She had written ONE song".
That stood out in my mind as strange, then saw the reports of the lawsuit later, which unfortunately denied him any credit at all.
GuitarGare 2 years ago
I would like to heae that Canadian version. Thanks for you infor about Sheryl, what a loser to not even mention him.
analyzingfunny 2 years ago 2
Kev fans should call out Sheryl Crowe and ask her to sell the reissues of his CD. It is quite disgusting thinking about the fact that she has went on and never gave them any mention.
lonemilkman 3 years ago 11
Anyone willing to burn me a copy of this Toy Matinee cd? I used to have it but lost it a long time ago. Thanks in advance.
ncbeach22 3 years ago
Collectors Choice Music has recently re-issued this CD along with Third Matinee and Marc Bonilla's first two solo albums EE Ticket and American Matador.
artsake 3 years ago
Thanks. I found this out earlier today and went and ahead and pre-ordered it. Thanks again.
ncbeach22 3 years ago
If you're still looking for a copy, I'd be happy to burn one for you.
shu2stef 3 years ago
Sorry. My previous post was for ncbeach22..
shu2stef 3 years ago
Hey thanks for the offer but I bought a copy of the cd. Thanks again.
ncbeach22 3 years ago
I think about all of the vivid and creative music we missed out on with Kevin's passing.
Had you with me in the car throughout the day. RIP Kevin. You are missed.
Upyrazz 3 years ago
Kevin was a musical genius. It breaks my heart that musicians like this are taken from us so early, while today's musicians add cancer and disease to the sick, bloated, rotting, gangrenous, music dinosaur that's begging to die.
mordanai 3 years ago
I was one of the lucky ones to know Kevin for his talent, quirkiness, & loyalty to his friends. He was my friend for over 15 years & I love & miss him terribly. I remember sneaking in to venues where he was playing because we were both too young to be there. Kev and the other musicians had talent and wish I knew what the others were up to. All the talk about SC, the best that could happen is that everyone stop talking about her & that she drifts out of the music scene. Those guys were so wronged
wercolorblind 3 years ago
if you truly knew him than i am jealous of you. He is my hero and affected me more than any other musician. The world lost more than a person the day he died. And SC deserves to be forgoten into musical obscurity. She ows it all to him and not a word of thanks..B!!!
clayfrodin 3 years ago
It's time for his Bday and I still get in a funk every year over it... Happy Birthday Kev...
It's a term much overused these days- but he truly was one in a million...
wercolorblind 3 years ago
Holy crap - I just realized that's Rosanna Arquette...TM is on my "desert island" album list The world is a seriously less talented place without Kevin Gilbert.
mcadawg2000 3 years ago
man, i used to rewind & ff & play
this tape over, over and over...
loved it all,
hey, whaa haappen, to them?
senrabrefinnej 3 years ago
Love this song! Didnt he get discovered at a battle of the bands in the Los Angeles area? Anyone know? Cool bass in this song.
gandlbass 3 years ago
"Getting discovered" is just making a video for youutbe. Just look at Jaaaaaa!
analyzingfunny 3 years ago
Stupid fools! Comparing Toy Matinee with Steely Dan. They're of different league, and Steely Dan is in a league of its own. If you want to compare TM with another band, try Toto, Men at work or Ace the group who sang How long.
vee8iron1234 3 years ago
Who's the fool here? Steely Dan was never a "band"; aside from Fagin & Becker it was a revolving door of studio musicians (hired guns). The only meaningful comparison is about songcraft, and I agree Toy Matinee's short body of work compares very well to the Dan's long (and often tedious) one.
drummnut 3 years ago
uhm ok, let a third world guy teach a "western world" dude like you, LOL, they started out as a band mr. know everything, what's left are the core members (Fagen & Becker), and I know they've always been two working with diff. session musicians, if you have doubts let me know and I'll send you the links.
vee8iron1234 3 years ago
I replied on this post "I loved their fresh, Jazzy, Steely Dan-Meets rock sound" which has been the comparison of posters on TM's sound. And if you have not been slow to get my drift you would not have replied the way you do.Perhaps you're just the typical self-righteous, contentious loud mouth american who always have something to say about nothing. he he.
vee8iron1234 3 years ago
I agree. When I first heard TM I was floored. So sophisticated and soulful, jazzy. They reminded me of SD as soon as I heard "Ballad of Jenny Ledge"
drazilxof 3 years ago
You tell 'em vee8iron1234 :-) I'm not a "contentious, loud mouth american", but I know what you mean. Yeah, this is pretty "Fageny"... Actually, it's part Fagen, part Level 42, part Toto, in my "non-contentious, loud mouth american" opinion :-)
bourgeoisbrats 3 years ago
I love this song. Too bad they cut out the fade-out ending, where he worked in the "Don't be cruel" lyric...that was one of the best parts of the tune, IMO. I was lucky enough to meet Kevin Gilbert once, and he was a very cool guy. He is one of my songwriting heroes.
jhale667 3 years ago
A truly great band! I remember going out and buying the Cassette tape to play in my walkman at work, I wore that tape out and turned around and got the CD. Still have and play it often. Its one of my top twenty favorite albums of all time their is not one bad song on the album. It was so sad about Kevin and the future promise of many more great albums by this band also died with him. May he be at Peace.
1liger 3 years ago
I have something to say about Toy Matinee. I loved their fresh, Jazzy, Steely Dan-Meets rock sound and wish they were still around today. Whatever happened to Kevin Gilbert doesn't matter as much as his family and friends who loved and miss him. Seeing this video after al the years just reminds me of how pathetic the radio world has become when we couldn't even HEAR a band like this today without the Internet or MAYBE a good Independent Rock station like KFOG in San Francisco. RIP Kevin Gilbert.
borntorun1970 3 years ago 2
Amen to that.
BOOT367 3 years ago
borntorun1970, agree totally. Music in general, radio in particular, is in a dismal state. There is some music from our past we continue to enjoy and hold onto because it doesn't have a home in today's entertainment shit can.
nitedrive 3 years ago
Very Steely Dan. Which is why I like it.
nitedrive 3 years ago
Toy Matinee did a wonderful job telling stories in their songs. This song is one of my favorites...:)
semipenguin 3 years ago
What ever it was it killed him and thats that
and its to bad he died what more can you say
wordface 3 years ago
Hey, ninnies...its "autoEROTIC asphyxiation" ...not "auto asyphxiation". Please get it right. People are getting the incorrect idea that Gilbert committed suicide. He didn't. He just screwed up while masturbating while cutting off his air supply. I didn't hear the details, but it probably involved something around his neck. He passed out--as happens tragically often--and didn't wake up.
tedperkins 3 years ago 3
None of this matters. It's what he did while he was alive that ultimately counts.
artsake 3 years ago 7
I agree completely. But there will always be those who are hung up on propriety and honor, almost to the point that the acts of others reflects on them personally.
tedperkins 3 years ago
He was having intercourse with Sheryl while it happened I heard
nicholasjohnparry 9 months ago
One summer I worked in an office & this song played many times. I had no idea who the band was or what the song was. I would just hear it sometimes just walking by and hearing snatches of it on the radio. Something about the wistful melancholy struck a chord even though it wasn't my kind of music back then. Years later, I read of Kevin Gilbert's death & how Toy Matinee was a cult favorite. Then I heard this song again & remembered it as that memorable, touching song from years ago.
LeftHandOfDarkness 3 years ago
Time for a stupid question: When and how did Kevin die?
myloveybunny 3 years ago
Auto Asphyxiation
wordface 3 years ago
More common than most people realize. May he rest in peace.
myloveybunny 3 years ago
1996,he was 29yrs old.
bassmanjoe 3 years ago
Yes, Auto Asphyxiation. But, as I understand it, that event was preceeded by Cheryl Crowe taking all the credit for her grammy for "Leaving Las Vegas", a song he wrote. He let her into the Saturday Night Music Club, and she basically screwed all of them (Gilbert, Baerwald) when she hit it big. So, in a secondary way, Sheryl Crowe killed Kevin Gilbert. Something TO THIS DAY she will not answer questions about.
clutch0311 3 years ago
That fucking sucks. Having lost my 18 year old son, Jason, to suicide, in 1995, it's a heartache from which you never recover. I find comfort in the belief that he is no longer in pain and that he knows now, of the love, he didn't realize here. The world has lost a talented musician and may he RIP.
myloveybunny 3 years ago
Gilbert didn't commit suicide. All these people that are posting "Auto Asphyxiation" mean "Autoerotic (masturbatory) Asphyxiation. Look it up if you don't know what that is. It was an accident and these dorks are inadvertently spreading misinformation. He died getting his rocks of in a special way.
tedperkins 3 years ago
It's well known he had depression. Ask yourself why he "got his rocks off" that way in the first place. Because of the danger. That's the sort of freak accident you often find in people who don't truly want to die, don't want to forthrightly commit suicide, but yet have suicidal feelings. They take unneccesary risks, play Russian roulette, get in car accidents. To say he died in a freak accident doesn't change anything, because freak accidents happen more to the suicidal.
LeftHandOfDarkness 3 years ago
I appreciate your comments. What you say may ll be true, but it doesn't change the fact hat it wasn't suicide and I feel it's only esponsible to nip this rumor in the bud. It's robably true that the depressed have more run-ins with freak accidents, but is there really moral lesson here? What would it be? "Don't be depressed"? What happened to KG is tragic, but it doesn't diminish my opinion of him. either as a talented musician or as an ordinary human being.
tedperkins 3 years ago
Yeah his life was going decently up until the time he had died. I don't think he would plan on suicide while waiting to hear back from a Genesis audition (which he was accepted as the new front man).
slumsquirrel21 3 years ago
I had no idea he wrote the song: "Leaving Las Vegas". The song won't sound so good now. Thanks.
myloveybunny 3 years ago
A friend of mine introduced me to Toy Matinee around 1998, and after that I did my own research. The Saturday Night Music Club gave her THE big break, and she s*it on them. Look up David Baerwald, he still puts out great CD's. I just looked up Gilbert on IMDB to verify; he wrote a TON of Crowe's stuff. I hate her for what she did.. And, I am sorry for your loss. I have 2 daughters, 5 & 3, and would be lost without them...
clutch0311 3 years ago
My estranged husband introduced me to the Ballad of Jenny Ledge in 1993 (following our break up), relating ESPECIAllY to the lyrics of an "Also-Ran", when I was with someone else. I've loved the song ever since. After 1995, I was oblivious to EVERYTHING, including the death of Kevin Gillbert. Thanks for the info and your kind words.
myloveybunny 3 years ago
Don't know if you are a Henley fan (or listening to song lyrics), but some of the most profound lyrics ever written (in my opinion), can be found in Henley's "New York Minute" and/or "Learn to Be Still" (on Eagles Hell Freezes Over) cd.
myloveybunny 3 years ago
Even more disturbing: not only did Kevin Gilbert die (suicide??) but so did the guy who wrote the novel Leaving Las Vegas that inspired the song. He had severe depression and shot himself. Only a couple years older than Kevin Gilbert was.
LeftHandOfDarkness 3 years ago
If people like Toy Matinee they've far from heard the best stuff Kev was involved in. His solo stuff is considerably better in my opinion- and I find Toy Matinee an awesome band.
meatflowers 3 years ago
Loved this song and the entire Toy Matinee album. I'm 18 years too late to the party. Better late than never. This disc was better than 90% of what came out in 1990. So glad I discovered Kevin Gilbert. Taken way too soon. RIP Kev.
315elmwood 4 years ago
Just discovered this immense talent. RIP Kevin. You are truly missed.
Upyrazz 4 years ago
God Bless You, Master Gilbert. The wrath of karma shall be leveled upon Ms. Crow in due time.... Miss you, man. By the way, is that Rebecca DeMorney in the video? Couldn't get a good enough look...
clutch0311 4 years ago
no thts rosanna arquette
waywardjohn 4 years ago
I have the Last Plane Out video. I wish there were more out. Toy rocks.
bpentium 4 years ago
Agree completely with Jimbo. Greatest album many of my friends have never heard. I only found out what happened to poor KG a few years back. The world lost an immensely talented artist. May he rest in peace.
mscannjr 4 years ago
Greatest debut effort I've ever heard. Every song on the cd is a hit.....amazing production. Kevin was a star on the rise but also a tortured soul.....we only knew the artist......thank you for what you left us.
Jimbo470 4 years ago
"every song on the CD is a hit" -- exactly how I felt at the time. I was floored "man of reason" and this weren't top-5. Then again, I'm floored by most of the stuff that DOES make top-5.
drummnut 4 years ago
Exactly. At the time, I couldn't figure out why each song (except Queen of Misery) wasn't all over the place. As it was, only this one really made it out the gate, and everybody thought it was Steely Dan. By the time this song hit the air, the cassettes had already been re-packaged with Dick Tracy and a third cassette in a three-for-one bargain bin disgrace. And when my sister picked up Dick Tracy, I wound up with Toy Matinee. Serendipity! Damn shame, though--all of it.
haakondahl 3 years ago
Thanks for posting. Haven't heard this in long time. I remember I was at Tower Records in Hollywood when this cd hit the streets. I bought it and never let go of it. Gilbert was a GEM!! Thanks again! Jon
jonsingersongs 4 years ago
One of the world's brightest stars extinguished on its fledgling ascent. Out, out, brief candle. Yet he's left us so much in so precious few albums.
Everyone I've ever played his music to is immediately impressed. He seems eminently likable as a person, and his warmth and wit color his music in a very unique, special way. I know 'we always come home'; I only wish he had not "come home" so soon.
DistantNotion 4 years ago
parachuteclubbed - I totally agree.
Toy Matinee gets better every time I hear them. What a gifted musician (songwriter, engineer, singer, guitarist, lyricist, producer, arranger...>>> ad infinitum). I'd never seen any clips of him in action, though I've loved his music from the days when Toy Matinee first hit the stores.
Judging by the video, he could even act, too!
DistantNotion 4 years ago
Yes, Julian Lennon contributed on "Things she said". Great recording!!
jcreight13 4 years ago
some tracks on this album had Julian Lennon
backing vocals.
sphorbrains 4 years ago
Simply . . . amazing. To put a video face to an intimately-loved song is simply amazing. I miss Kevin's voice. :(
parachuteclubbed 4 years ago
awesome...thanks for posting.
stevecouncil 4 years ago
god rest his soul.
marklar20 4 years ago
Was that Patricia Arquette??
Thanks for the rare Kevin Gilbert material!
bleedingicon 4 years ago
Rosanna Arquette, lovely I had forgetten she was in that vid.
merlin0mccarley 4 years ago
She was Lance the druggie's wife in PULP FICTION
fenderstratguy 4 years ago
F ing love this tune!!!!!!!!!!
avidrocker 4 years ago
more KG !
drumboy1965 4 years ago
Have missed this one since it was removed from youtube 8-9 months ago. Thanks for putting it up again!!! Please add more Kevin Gilbert films. Kevin deserves to be remembered not forgotten. It's a pity that his music is almost imposssible to get these days....
Mellotronen 4 years ago