Well the 7th Day Shabbat doesn't float around. Appointed times are the annual feasts outlined in Lev 23 and Deut 16. Also when you count the Omer of 50 days or 7 Sabbaths to reach Pentecost you will Not count 37 days based on your floating Sabbath doctrine. So with this floating 7th Day Shabbat all over the month, you end up with some lun-ar fixated stuff that Scriptures doesn't support. Good day. Yah's Shalom to my brethren who are watching.
In response to no record in the Bible for keeping the weekly Sabbath on any other day other that 1, 8, 15, 22, and 29th of the month. Read John 9:14. This Sabbath was on the 23rd of Tishri.
Here's the proof. Read the entire context starting from the beginning of chapter 7. You will see that the Sabbath of John 9:14 was the day after "the last day, that great day of the feast." (Key verses: John 7:2, John 7:37, John 8:1-2, John 9:14) Note that there is no break in chronology between these verses. Lev 23:34-36 says 7 days of feast and end with a sabbath for a total of 8 days. The text also says that the feast started on the 15 day of the 7th month. 15+8=23.
@BizarreFilms I believe that you have a math problem here. The feast started on the 15th and went for 7 days INCLUSIVLY. 15th=first day of the feast, 16th=day2, 17th=day3, 18th=day4, 19th=day5, 20th=day6, 21st=day7, and the 22nd=day8. Thus proving that the Sabbath was on the 15th and the 22nd. Please read it carefully next time.
@mkemp90 Well, I wrote my comment on my iPhone and I see that I didn't finish what I intended to say. You are right that the 8th day lands on the 22nd. What I meant to say was that in John 9:14 that Sabbath is on the 23rd. It says that it was the day after the last day, the great day of the feast. The only great day of the feast is day 8 which is a ceremonial sabbath. So that makes a weekly Sabbath land on the 23rd of the month. See what I mean?
@BizarreFilms This is impossible. That would mean that the ceremonial sabbath you speak of would have also been a preparation day for the so called sabbath on the 23rd????? Nowhere in the Scriptures does it ever mention this kind of thing happening.
@mkemp90 I'm interested in studying this with you if you are willing. My email is danielibowman@hotmail.com. we can study by email or over the phone. I'll email you my number I don't really want to post it here. God bless!
@BizarreFilms No need Daniel. The scriptures are very clear. It was a 7 day feast which started on the 15th. The 7th day of the feast fell on the 21st which was the Last Great Day. It can be no other way.Then the 8th day after the feast was the 22nd and was the Sabbath as well as the Holy Convocation. The very same Sabbath day that Yahusha healed the blind man. Please remember that it was 7 day feast...not an 8 day feast. Did you watch the section of the video I referenced?
@mkemp90 The link you sent doesn't work. If the 8th day isn't part of the feast then why is it called the 8th day? no special mention is made for the 7th day of the feast so it cant be the great day. I've studied this extensively, it's simply not biblical. I'll show you what I've found if you will study it with me. If your mind is closed then I can't help you see that it is heresy.
@mkemp90 Oh and the 8th day is called sabbath but it is not the Shabat. It is translated ffrom the Hebrew word Shabatan (excuse the spelling) which is kept different from the Shabat. it is not a weekly Sabbath. And the Sabbath in John 9:14 is exactly 24 weeks (7 day segments) from the Sabbath after the crucifixion. To determine this you must first understand the Hebrew calendar including leap year and when days are added or taken from 2 of the months.
In response To God positioned the moon on the fourth day according to his Sabbath. Don't you think if it was of importance God would have at least mentioned it in the beginning. Ten commandments say seven days not follow the moon and by the way there is a couple times a year when the moon isn't visible so go ahead and work an extra day. GOD says seven days period. Never mentioned once of extra days of work. Six work days seventh is for rest not the occasional eighth day.
mo'ed dib.......now i know where this name came from..muad dib....u who bicker about the exactness of the sabbath...have missed the entire message of Jesus..there is no such thing as time, no such thing as death..no such thing as gravity, He walked on water..everything you accept as reality is nothing more than thought trapped ideas..by limited minded men...there is NO SUCH THING AS ANYTHING!!!!...wake up...
MattatYah....so you are saying that the creation week is a man-made concept to help us measure time? Wow! It sounds to me like you are adding to, or taking away. Shame on you!
@7591tony i am not in texas but me and my wife and her family is in ontario canada just wanted to say many blessings brother and hope u find a group we have no one here just "churches" Glory to Yahuwah
In fact, he probably began teaching the sabbath on the 15th for a number of reasons. 1. they left Egypt on full moon so they could see where they were going, duh. Then going into the wilderness having a full moon also helped did'nt it? The quails that came out on the evening of the 15th to 16th were also illuminated so they could hunt them. There is NO connection of weekly Sabbaths to the moon, only a connection between the months to count towards some feast days.
Lunar Sabbath is impossible. Christ was in the earth for 3 days and 3 nights. If the 15th was The first day of ULB, AND a weekly sabbath, that means they came to his tomb on the 16th (Luke 24:1), and that is not 3 days and 3 nights is it? BUSTED! They wanted to see his body ASAP but couldn't for 3 days because Pilot had guards watching the tomb and letting no one in (Matthew 27:63). BUSTED again!
Exodus 16:1 = only place in bible where Sabbath fell on a 15th, and this is not proof of anything
Shalom Achi, I and my family have left Gregorianism and now keep the lunar sabbath. We do keep 8, 15, 22 and 29th also. I've heard of other lunar formulas, but this one is understandable and must of all revealed in the scriptures. The only way people can not beleive this is if they don't understand scripture. So don't apologize for doing righteousless.
@princeofroyalty2 Shalom Nasi (Prince) I understand you are asking this question from a gregorian perspective. However, from a Hebraic perspective the answer is, no. The solar-lunar sabbath simply resets itself just as all natural cycles of life. A baby does not grow according to a clock but according to the Creator's will. Yet, that baby, if it is blessed, will grow into an old man. Basicly, there is no such thing as continual counting. That is a man-made concept to help us measure time.
@princeofroyalty2 Yes, the fatal flaw of this lunar sabbath idea is that the lunar cycle is not 28 days long. The lunar sabbath is not supported by scripture. Ive studied this from every angle, it's simply non-biblical.
The only way people can believe this is if they don't understand scripture. Tell me how you count the omer(7 sabbaths and the next day is 50 days Lev 23:15-16) The only way to get 50 days in the counting of the omer is a continuous 7 day cycle. Just like the creation week. Scripture says the moon is the beginning of the month, not the beginning of the week, which is true. I pray that understanding and the knowledge of our Father YHVH comes upon us all. Shalom
oh yeah, check out one of my vids on the lunar sabbath, I talk about how the new moon is when the moon is first visible, rather than using the man made formula. I also talk about the implications of using that formula for determining the sabbath.
@PHANTOMSLAYER77 hehee of course bro. i'm going out, but on my website there is a link to calendar info- i have to update it, so please pray i get the connection again. there is also a playlist called "sabbaths" with info in. (had 1000's of hits on my last youtube site before it was taken down, so you can be sure satan hates the saints learning aboiut this.)shalom
What year B.C. do you start calculating day one. Are you saying that you have pinpointed the exact year in time to start counting day one and forward? We would have to start somewhere. People have different opinions regarding on what year the creation started and this would seem to matter because if we start the history of the earth at 4034 B.C. and someone else at 4000 B.C. then someone is starting history too early or to late which would mean we still would be off of Yahuwah's calendar.
Then again what is the art of political science? The defense of the indefensible or the art of making stuff up. (apologies for grammatical error in previous post, should be plainly admits not admits plainly)
Fax, it is well documented even in University/Academic circles, archeologists that the Sabbath use to be lunar. Check the Jewish Encyclopedia, it admits plainly they have not a clue where Saturday sabbath came form but know for sure Sabbath use to be by the moon. (A hint the New Moon it doesn't count as a day then you will see the 7 day pattern) To be honest I can't believe that Lunar Sabbath can be a ground for debate, cause Saturday sabbath is indefensible.
The day of a New Moon should not be considered a day? That doesn't make sense. Why would it not be considered a day?
I don't agree with calling it a "Saturday" at all either, and the same goes for any lunar Sabbath that falls on a pagan named day. That is naming a day after a false deity and I agree we shouldn't call any day after those things.
@faxchase I'm not making anyone do the Lunar Sabbath, but it is a heads up Sabbath use to be followed by the phases of the moon. As to the explicit reasons why the New Moon doesn't count, that I cannot answer as I do not know why. All agricultural societies in the olden days used the phases of the moon to calculate harvest time. That might be a lead, you can't grow anything properly off a Gregorian without knowledge of the lunar system beforehand.
@faxchase yes, it was the 7th day from creation, being called the 8th day of the moon. you can check this on a gregorian calendar, the 7 day cycle works on any!
eg. check the first day of the month on your calendar, and then see what days of the month that day comes on. you will notice it will be on the 8th, 15th, 22nd, 29th days, same as the lunar count.
@faxchase yes- position 4 on the 4th day. what do you suggest the previous 3 days were like without the sun, moon and stars? would be interested to "read" your thoughts on here! shalom
lol, sorry. I'm just trying to understand how we can make the "new moon" the first day when in creation the Father rested on the 7th but the moon wasn't created until the 4th.
I don't see how it fits I guess, but I will not harden my heart to truth. If it can be proven in Torah and the writings I will study the matter out and pray on the matter.
Have you made a video on where this is broken out in Torah or the writings? I have read many that lead me to believe the opposite.
@faxchase brother- think on it this way- at what time did the watch maker start making the watch? was it at the time the battery went in? or do you have to ask the maker himself?
this is the sort of thiking we must reason in, to uncover the mysteries of Gen 1- i do think there is truth in the "gap theory", as it is just crazy to claim there was "night and day" without the (current position) of our star, the sun.
yes, hope to make more vids soon, there are two or three other good ones around
@faxchase same reasoning as there could be no 24 days until after "the calendar" was put together on day 4- if there was no moon, there was no sun either!
Yes, but the Father claimed after the 6 days of work there was a Sabbath of rest and that all flesh should honor it. He did not mention the Sun or the moon, just that on the seventh day after creating He did rest.
I see many problems for this lunar doctrine, but none the less I will search the matter out.
@faxchase ALL time is measured by movement. The Gregorian calendar is a SOLAR calendar and comes from paganism. Your statement that the moon was not created until the 4th day is true - but when was the sun created? Remember, friend, everything had age created into it. Adam was not created a fetus, but an adult. The Creator of course positioned the moon right where it needed to be to mark all future time.
@faxchase Hope this helps You bud Genisis 1:14 And Elohiym said, Let there be lights in the firmament of the heaven to divide the day from the night; and let them be for signs, and for seasons, and for days, and years:
@faxchase Sure! Psalm104:19 - "He appointed the moon for seasons." The word "seasons" is "mo'ed" which is the exact same word for the weekly Sabbath and the annual feasts as used in Leviticus 23. :)
@4AngelsPublications FALSE DOCTRINE. If you go by this calendar, then Pentecost is impossible. Lets see what the scriptures say about this. Leviticus 23:15-16 23:15 And ye shall count unto you from the morrow after the sabbath, from the day that ye brought the sheaf of the wave offering; seven sabbaths shall be complete:
23:16 Even unto the morrow after the seventh sabbath shall ye number fifty days; and ye shall offer a new meat offering unto the LORD.
so if you go by the weekly sabbaths, you will get 7 sabbaths and 50days (7*7=49). But if you go by this false doctrine, you will get at least 8 sabbaths. Lets take a look at your calendar, and I am going to give you all 30 days to help you out. 1st day=sabbath, 8th days=2 sabbaths, 15days= 3 sabbaths, 22days= 4 sabbaths, 29 days=5 sabbaths. (dont forget to add these 2 days (day 30 and day 1). 31days= 5 sabbaths, 38days=6 sabbaths, 45DAYS= 7 SABBATHS, THE LAST TIME I CHECKED, 45 +1=46 DAYS,
How did Noah observe a lunar sabbath we it was cloudy and Yah sealed him in the ark ?
MsLoverofTruth 1 month ago
Well the 7th Day Shabbat doesn't float around. Appointed times are the annual feasts outlined in Lev 23 and Deut 16. Also when you count the Omer of 50 days or 7 Sabbaths to reach Pentecost you will Not count 37 days based on your floating Sabbath doctrine. So with this floating 7th Day Shabbat all over the month, you end up with some lun-ar fixated stuff that Scriptures doesn't support. Good day. Yah's Shalom to my brethren who are watching.
MsLoverofTruth 1 month ago
In response to no record in the Bible for keeping the weekly Sabbath on any other day other that 1, 8, 15, 22, and 29th of the month. Read John 9:14. This Sabbath was on the 23rd of Tishri.
BizarreFilms 2 months ago
Here's the proof. Read the entire context starting from the beginning of chapter 7. You will see that the Sabbath of John 9:14 was the day after "the last day, that great day of the feast." (Key verses: John 7:2, John 7:37, John 8:1-2, John 9:14) Note that there is no break in chronology between these verses. Lev 23:34-36 says 7 days of feast and end with a sabbath for a total of 8 days. The text also says that the feast started on the 15 day of the 7th month. 15+8=23.
BizarreFilms 2 months ago
It was a weekly Sabbath following the ceremonial Sabbath of the feast of Tabernacles and it was on the 23rd of the 7th month (Tishri)
BizarreFilms 2 months ago
@BizarreFilms I believe that you have a math problem here. The feast started on the 15th and went for 7 days INCLUSIVLY. 15th=first day of the feast, 16th=day2, 17th=day3, 18th=day4, 19th=day5, 20th=day6, 21st=day7, and the 22nd=day8. Thus proving that the Sabbath was on the 15th and the 22nd. Please read it carefully next time.
-MK
mkemp90 1 month ago
@mkemp90 Well, I wrote my comment on my iPhone and I see that I didn't finish what I intended to say. You are right that the 8th day lands on the 22nd. What I meant to say was that in John 9:14 that Sabbath is on the 23rd. It says that it was the day after the last day, the great day of the feast. The only great day of the feast is day 8 which is a ceremonial sabbath. So that makes a weekly Sabbath land on the 23rd of the month. See what I mean?
BizarreFilms 4 weeks ago
@BizarreFilms This is impossible. That would mean that the ceremonial sabbath you speak of would have also been a preparation day for the so called sabbath on the 23rd????? Nowhere in the Scriptures does it ever mention this kind of thing happening.
mkemp90 4 weeks ago
@mkemp90 I'm interested in studying this with you if you are willing. My email is danielibowman@hotmail.com. we can study by email or over the phone. I'll email you my number I don't really want to post it here. God bless!
BizarreFilms 4 weeks ago
@BizarreFilms No need Daniel. The scriptures are very clear. It was a 7 day feast which started on the 15th. The 7th day of the feast fell on the 21st which was the Last Great Day. It can be no other way.Then the 8th day after the feast was the 22nd and was the Sabbath as well as the Holy Convocation. The very same Sabbath day that Yahusha healed the blind man. Please remember that it was 7 day feast...not an 8 day feast. Did you watch the section of the video I referenced?
-MK
mkemp90 4 weeks ago
@mkemp90 The link you sent doesn't work. If the 8th day isn't part of the feast then why is it called the 8th day? no special mention is made for the 7th day of the feast so it cant be the great day. I've studied this extensively, it's simply not biblical. I'll show you what I've found if you will study it with me. If your mind is closed then I can't help you see that it is heresy.
BizarreFilms 4 weeks ago
@mkemp90 Oh and the 8th day is called sabbath but it is not the Shabat. It is translated ffrom the Hebrew word Shabatan (excuse the spelling) which is kept different from the Shabat. it is not a weekly Sabbath. And the Sabbath in John 9:14 is exactly 24 weeks (7 day segments) from the Sabbath after the crucifixion. To determine this you must first understand the Hebrew calendar including leap year and when days are added or taken from 2 of the months.
BizarreFilms 4 weeks ago
@BizarreFilms A detailed answer to your claim is found here:
/watch?v=mDz1Wh3VrM4&feature=BFa&list=SP4E7C2C70292D332F&lf=list_related
just put youtube's url in front of the above front slash
Go to time 12:26.
Don't forget to bring your calculator : )
mkemp90 1 month ago
@BizarreFilms
sorry here is the correct link:
watch?v=mDz1Wh3VrM4
15,16,17,18,19,20,21,22------the 8th day is the 22nd not the 23rd
mkemp90 1 month ago
In response To God positioned the moon on the fourth day according to his Sabbath. Don't you think if it was of importance God would have at least mentioned it in the beginning. Ten commandments say seven days not follow the moon and by the way there is a couple times a year when the moon isn't visible so go ahead and work an extra day. GOD says seven days period. Never mentioned once of extra days of work. Six work days seventh is for rest not the occasional eighth day.
briankamphues68 2 months ago
mo'ed dib.......now i know where this name came from..muad dib....u who bicker about the exactness of the sabbath...have missed the entire message of Jesus..there is no such thing as time, no such thing as death..no such thing as gravity, He walked on water..everything you accept as reality is nothing more than thought trapped ideas..by limited minded men...there is NO SUCH THING AS ANYTHING!!!!...wake up...
lanagual 6 months ago
a good friend and brother passed me this very interesting vid and info and I just wanted to say thanks! and hope you have a blessed next Sabbath ;-)
stevelock76 6 months ago
MattatYah....so you are saying that the creation week is a man-made concept to help us measure time? Wow! It sounds to me like you are adding to, or taking away. Shame on you!
joshsti1 7 months ago
Are there any Lunar Sabbath Keepers in Texas? We have recently changed to the Lunar Sabbath and are looking for a group to get to know.
7591tony 7 months ago
@7591tony i am not in texas but me and my wife and her family is in ontario canada just wanted to say many blessings brother and hope u find a group we have no one here just "churches" Glory to Yahuwah
woofmomma 3 months ago
This is a very good video. Thank you.
1robinsong 7 months ago
In fact, he probably began teaching the sabbath on the 15th for a number of reasons. 1. they left Egypt on full moon so they could see where they were going, duh. Then going into the wilderness having a full moon also helped did'nt it? The quails that came out on the evening of the 15th to 16th were also illuminated so they could hunt them. There is NO connection of weekly Sabbaths to the moon, only a connection between the months to count towards some feast days.
hunt7wolf 8 months ago
Lunar Sabbath is impossible. Christ was in the earth for 3 days and 3 nights. If the 15th was The first day of ULB, AND a weekly sabbath, that means they came to his tomb on the 16th (Luke 24:1), and that is not 3 days and 3 nights is it? BUSTED! They wanted to see his body ASAP but couldn't for 3 days because Pilot had guards watching the tomb and letting no one in (Matthew 27:63). BUSTED again!
Exodus 16:1 = only place in bible where Sabbath fell on a 15th, and this is not proof of anything
hunt7wolf 8 months ago
Shalom Achi, I and my family have left Gregorianism and now keep the lunar sabbath. We do keep 8, 15, 22 and 29th also. I've heard of other lunar formulas, but this one is understandable and must of all revealed in the scriptures. The only way people can not beleive this is if they don't understand scripture. So don't apologize for doing righteousless.
HalleluYah!
MattatYah1 9 months ago
@MattatYah1 arent there times when you go like 8 days before you reach the sabbath according to the lunar???
princeofroyalty2 7 months ago
@princeofroyalty2 Shalom Nasi (Prince) I understand you are asking this question from a gregorian perspective. However, from a Hebraic perspective the answer is, no. The solar-lunar sabbath simply resets itself just as all natural cycles of life. A baby does not grow according to a clock but according to the Creator's will. Yet, that baby, if it is blessed, will grow into an old man. Basicly, there is no such thing as continual counting. That is a man-made concept to help us measure time.
MattatYah1 7 months ago
@princeofroyalty2 Yes, the fatal flaw of this lunar sabbath idea is that the lunar cycle is not 28 days long. The lunar sabbath is not supported by scripture. Ive studied this from every angle, it's simply non-biblical.
BizarreFilms 4 weeks ago
The only way people can believe this is if they don't understand scripture. Tell me how you count the omer(7 sabbaths and the next day is 50 days Lev 23:15-16) The only way to get 50 days in the counting of the omer is a continuous 7 day cycle. Just like the creation week. Scripture says the moon is the beginning of the month, not the beginning of the week, which is true. I pray that understanding and the knowledge of our Father YHVH comes upon us all. Shalom
joshsti1 9 months ago
oh yeah, check out one of my vids on the lunar sabbath, I talk about how the new moon is when the moon is first visible, rather than using the man made formula. I also talk about the implications of using that formula for determining the sabbath.
feliztx 10 months ago
The vid is just what YHWH's followers needed...thx for taking the time to put it together.....
feliztx 10 months ago
@PHANTOMSLAYER77 hehee of course bro. i'm going out, but on my website there is a link to calendar info- i have to update it, so please pray i get the connection again. there is also a playlist called "sabbaths" with info in. (had 1000's of hits on my last youtube site before it was taken down, so you can be sure satan hates the saints learning aboiut this.)shalom
endtimes777 11 months ago
Preach!
LoganLemmond 1 year ago
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cryingwatchman 1 year ago
What year B.C. do you start calculating day one. Are you saying that you have pinpointed the exact year in time to start counting day one and forward? We would have to start somewhere. People have different opinions regarding on what year the creation started and this would seem to matter because if we start the history of the earth at 4034 B.C. and someone else at 4000 B.C. then someone is starting history too early or to late which would mean we still would be off of Yahuwah's calendar.
deptistill 1 year ago
Did Jonbob make this video? I haven't chatted with him in a long time. Is this your profile/site, Jonbob? Please contact, if so. Great vid!
phxvalleygirl 1 year ago
Then again what is the art of political science? The defense of the indefensible or the art of making stuff up. (apologies for grammatical error in previous post, should be plainly admits not admits plainly)
asymmetricstudygroup 1 year ago
Fax, it is well documented even in University/Academic circles, archeologists that the Sabbath use to be lunar. Check the Jewish Encyclopedia, it admits plainly they have not a clue where Saturday sabbath came form but know for sure Sabbath use to be by the moon. (A hint the New Moon it doesn't count as a day then you will see the 7 day pattern) To be honest I can't believe that Lunar Sabbath can be a ground for debate, cause Saturday sabbath is indefensible.
asymmetricstudygroup 1 year ago
@asymmetricstudygroup
The day of a New Moon should not be considered a day? That doesn't make sense. Why would it not be considered a day?
I don't agree with calling it a "Saturday" at all either, and the same goes for any lunar Sabbath that falls on a pagan named day. That is naming a day after a false deity and I agree we shouldn't call any day after those things.
faxchase 1 year ago
@faxchase I'm not making anyone do the Lunar Sabbath, but it is a heads up Sabbath use to be followed by the phases of the moon. As to the explicit reasons why the New Moon doesn't count, that I cannot answer as I do not know why. All agricultural societies in the olden days used the phases of the moon to calculate harvest time. That might be a lead, you can't grow anything properly off a Gregorian without knowledge of the lunar system beforehand.
asymmetricstudygroup 1 year ago
Very good video Jonbob
True info!
God Bless
We have entered into HIS REST!
soldiersofthecross
No Turning Back!
soldiersofthecross 1 year ago
@soldiersofthecross thanks soldier, and glory to the creator's name and His son's name (see prov 30:4)
endtimes777 1 year ago
On the seventh day, God rested. Who are you trying to fool?
gloryboundkev 1 year ago
YHWH rested on the 7th day... Not the 8th. Correct?
faxchase 1 year ago
@faxchase yes, it was the 7th day from creation, being called the 8th day of the moon. you can check this on a gregorian calendar, the 7 day cycle works on any!
eg. check the first day of the month on your calendar, and then see what days of the month that day comes on. you will notice it will be on the 8th, 15th, 22nd, 29th days, same as the lunar count.
endtimes777 1 year ago
@endtimes777
But the moon wasn't around until the 4th day right?
faxchase 1 year ago
@faxchase yes- position 4 on the 4th day. what do you suggest the previous 3 days were like without the sun, moon and stars? would be interested to "read" your thoughts on here! shalom
endtimes777 1 year ago
@endtimes777
lol, sorry. I'm just trying to understand how we can make the "new moon" the first day when in creation the Father rested on the 7th but the moon wasn't created until the 4th.
I don't see how it fits I guess, but I will not harden my heart to truth. If it can be proven in Torah and the writings I will study the matter out and pray on the matter.
Have you made a video on where this is broken out in Torah or the writings? I have read many that lead me to believe the opposite.
faxchase 1 year ago
@faxchase brother- think on it this way- at what time did the watch maker start making the watch? was it at the time the battery went in? or do you have to ask the maker himself?
this is the sort of thiking we must reason in, to uncover the mysteries of Gen 1- i do think there is truth in the "gap theory", as it is just crazy to claim there was "night and day" without the (current position) of our star, the sun.
yes, hope to make more vids soon, there are two or three other good ones around
endtimes777 1 year ago
@faxchase same reasoning as there could be no 24 days until after "the calendar" was put together on day 4- if there was no moon, there was no sun either!
endtimes777 1 year ago
@endtimes777
Yes, but the Father claimed after the 6 days of work there was a Sabbath of rest and that all flesh should honor it. He did not mention the Sun or the moon, just that on the seventh day after creating He did rest.
I see many problems for this lunar doctrine, but none the less I will search the matter out.
faxchase 1 year ago
@faxchase ALL time is measured by movement. The Gregorian calendar is a SOLAR calendar and comes from paganism. Your statement that the moon was not created until the 4th day is true - but when was the sun created? Remember, friend, everything had age created into it. Adam was not created a fetus, but an adult. The Creator of course positioned the moon right where it needed to be to mark all future time.
4AngelsPublications 1 year ago
@4AngelsPublications
"The Creator of course positioned the moon right where it needed to be to mark all future time."
Any scripture to support this theory?
faxchase 1 year ago
@faxchase Hope this helps You bud Genisis 1:14 And Elohiym said, Let there be lights in the firmament of the heaven to divide the day from the night; and let them be for signs, and for seasons, and for days, and years:
JonnyNME 1 year ago
@faxchase Sure! Psalm104:19 - "He appointed the moon for seasons." The word "seasons" is "mo'ed" which is the exact same word for the weekly Sabbath and the annual feasts as used in Leviticus 23. :)
4AngelsPublications 7 months ago
@4AngelsPublications FALSE DOCTRINE. If you go by this calendar, then Pentecost is impossible. Lets see what the scriptures say about this. Leviticus 23:15-16 23:15 And ye shall count unto you from the morrow after the sabbath, from the day that ye brought the sheaf of the wave offering; seven sabbaths shall be complete:
23:16 Even unto the morrow after the seventh sabbath shall ye number fifty days; and ye shall offer a new meat offering unto the LORD.
Shaqpack609 7 months ago
so if you go by the weekly sabbaths, you will get 7 sabbaths and 50days (7*7=49). But if you go by this false doctrine, you will get at least 8 sabbaths. Lets take a look at your calendar, and I am going to give you all 30 days to help you out. 1st day=sabbath, 8th days=2 sabbaths, 15days= 3 sabbaths, 22days= 4 sabbaths, 29 days=5 sabbaths. (dont forget to add these 2 days (day 30 and day 1). 31days= 5 sabbaths, 38days=6 sabbaths, 45DAYS= 7 SABBATHS, THE LAST TIME I CHECKED, 45 +1=46 DAYS,
Shaqpack609 7 months ago
NOT 50 DAYS, REPENT AND TURN TOWARDS THE MOST HIGH GOD
Shaqpack609 7 months ago
Thank you. I am keeping the sabbath.
TheCandaceH 1 year ago
@TheCandaceH praise YHWH Candace, bless you sister in Yahshua!
endtimes777 1 year ago