Charles G Finney exposed as a heretic by Baptist Preacher

[Songwriter1959]

Eternal security is a damnable heresy.

[slimshead8100]

@875309100

Again, Romans 8, 'if ye live after the flesh ye SHALL DIE, but if ye through the spirit, mortify the deeds of the flesh ye SHALL LIVE'. Now, this was written to believers, it's OBVIOUS that this is not talking about death of the body because that happens regardless. Paul was warning BELIEVERS that if they live according to the lust of their flesh, that they would DIE (not just body, but soul), and IF they live according to the spirit they would LIVE (their soul would remain alive).

[slimshead8100]

@875309100

Paul made NO distinction, he told the Corinthian church, in 1 Cor. 6, such WERE some of you. He named different sins and he told them that they USED to be in those sins, not that they still were and it was ok because they were "believers". Also, Romans 8 talks about their being no condemnation to those which are in Christ who live not AFTER THE FLESH, but AFTER THE SPIRIT. So, it's according to how one lives whether or not they are condemned.

[slimshead8100]

@875309100

I have sent him a message and gave like 30 verses that totally disprove his idea about not having to strive, I asked him questions along with it and he is yet to get back with me on it. If all you have to do to be saved is "believe in Jesus", then apparently the devils are saved, according to what James says. The apostle Paul REPEATEDLY talked about how sin brings death, he didn't say sin brings death UNLESS you believe in Jesus.

[slimshead8100]

@875309100

I think you are absolutely right. Sounds like he rejects any and all doctrine, except the pitiful excuse for doctrine that he teaches. He ASSUMES that if you don't believe like him, not only are you wrong, but you aren't even saved. He has a God complex or something. He has the most watered down, greasy-grace, itchy ear, unbiblical doctrine I have ever heard. He reduces salvation to no more than some formula

[slimshead8100]

This guy's concept of a Heretic is anyone who doesn't agree with him. Or, in other words, anyone who doesn't hate pretty much everyone, and isn't frighteningly insane. These men he hates on have done more good for the Lord in their death than he has in all his life.

[875309100]

@slimshead8100 From what I see of this guy, he can't make up his own mind. It's ridiculous...he hates every system of doctrine that the church has to offer.

[hensleyministries]

What a very foolish man who most certainly has never received the baptism of the Spirit of God that he can so easily speak slander. How many men make a ministry in slander. They are full of pride and absent of the wisdom of God. He twist 1 John to his own preaching! Listening to the laughter in the background it is a shame that men and women do not see the truth in this. He states that we cannot stop sinning... But Jesus told a man to sin no more.... perhaps Jesus did not receive the memo...

[alherjos]

If the truth iluminates pastors or preachers to make a church laugh from others thoughts, something is wrong then. If laughing of others brings salvation to people then let's start laughing of each other beliefs. Netiher Jesus did so.

[Thorgallify]

You know that, when you drive on large road and think everyone else is running in the wrong direction, maybe it's time to realize that YOU are the one driving in the wrong direction.

Just a though.

[ghostnoteus]

Why doesn't this "preacher" focus on God's word rather than excoriate another Christian whom God used at one point in time? Unfortunately, I do not believe that God will bless this man's ministry because his sword has the blood of fellow Christians.

[isaiah1423]

It is unfortunate that this Baptist preacher is a heretic. Jesus Christ said be ye perfect as your father is perfect. What is salvation?? this preacher doesn't even know. You have to go beyond believing the Bible. You have to abide by God's laws, and that is what Finney preached. Remember, the church's of today are preaching false doctrine just like this preacher is. It is possible to lose your salvation just by not abiding in God's laws. Church's today don't preach about God's laws any more.

[GunnyGunny1]

Babtist churches need to take time and read their Bible carefully. Stop using the grace of God as a license for sin. Read your Bible.

Jesus said, "make every effort to enter through the narrow gate." He said, make every effort. Remember those words. He said, not everyone who says Lord Lord will enter.

[faithandpractice]

I just realised that this guy thinks everyone is a heritic.

[Zonnyzevens]

I John 5:18 We know that whosoever is born of God sinneth not.

I John 2:9 Whosoever is born of God does not commit sin; for his seed remains in him and he cannot sin because he is born of God.

I'm just saying before you go slamming a man you might want to understand him first. Finney was a very intellectual man and wrote as if people understood what he was saying and where he was coming from. Obviously this is not the case.

If your going to discredit a mans work you should read it first.

[BrotherManasseh]

"Whosoever abideth in him sinneth not: whosoever sinneth hath not seen him, neither known him. Little children, let no man deceive you: he that doeth righteousness is righteous, even as he is righteous. He that committeth sin is of the devil; for the devil sinneth from the beginning. For this purpose the Son of God was manifested, that he might destroy the works of the devil. Whosoever is born of God doth not commit sin; for his seed remaineth in him: & he cannot sin, because he is born of God..

[BrotherManasseh]

@BrotherManasseh

In this the children of God are manifest, and the children of the devil: whosoever doeth not righteousness is not of God, neither he that loveth not his brother.

1 John 3:6-9

[Paahau]

Anderson is always trying to kick the ass of those many times better than him, hoping that some of their shit will stick to his shoes and make him a better man.

[menno000]

Bless you, thanks!

[dancdow]

Pastor Anderson "exposes" a lot of people of being heretics. finally he got one right!

[CBALLEN]

@dancdow Amen, a broke clock is right twice a day.

[Kyouryuu5000]

Charles G. Finney is in Hell for preaching another gospel (Galatians 1:8-9).

[TutsuoAikido]

Door opened at 1:53.

[tabowhunter]

I agree 1bearfan77

[1bearfan77]

I have seen several of this guy's posts, does he do anything but tear down others? The Kingdom of God is to be built up by preaching,not tearing down others. There is nothing wrong with preaching the truth, but why tear down others in the process?

[Joshubl]

we are called to repentance as well. As I am sure you are familiar with the problem even in the church of this issue. We still like darkness more than light. It is hard for us to walk away from it. Finney brought a message to the church that salvation was not only for those God "made" repent, but open to everyone. You commented on Jesus fulfilling the requirements of the Law, and that IS true, BUT it was not MERELY for this sake He came. I write this not to condemn or judge but to sharpen.

[Joshubl]

Brother, you judge erroneously, without understanding the state of the church nor the context in which it was written. Mockery, in any form, is not edifying to anyone, including the hearers. There is a right way to teach, and I applaud you for answering God's call, but this is not the way. Yes, to see the answer of salvation is easy, but to walk it out is not. We are told to work out our salvation with fear and trembling. Why? Salvation is about more than just belief, even demons believe, but

[1mrtime]

I will pray for you sir. Romans 6:23 - For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord. I pray that you will truly allow Christ to become Lord of your life. Ezekiel 18:4 - Behold, all souls are mine; as the soul of the father, so also the soul of the son is mine: the soul that sinneth, it shall die.

[Kyouryuu5000]

If I justify myself, mine own mouth shall condemn me: if I say, I am perfect, it shall also prove me perverse. (Job 9:20 KJE).

Therefore, our self-righteousness will lead to our own condemnation.

[kalejut]

preacher anderson gets fucked in the ass by horses

[guylacey7]

"You can't stop sinning"

who is deceived?

[Proverbs1x26refurbed]

Is it just me or does Charles Finney look like the devil?

[ServantofGod3]

Finney is a heretic, period.

[OvercomeEvil]

Beware, you who encounter this mans mockery of Jesus teachings. Jesus taught that the gate is narrow and the way difficult that leads to salvation. He taught that if you continued to sin it would cause to be cast into hell and that if you wanted to inherit eternal life you must cut off that which causes sin and follow Him wholeheartedly to the end. Do not be deceived in these latter days. God help us.

[Proverbs1x26refurbed]

I thought salvation wasn't of works? Which Catholic church do you call your own?

[OvercomeEvil]

Matt 5:30 And if your right hand causes you to sin, cut it off and cast it from you; for it is more profitable for you that one of your members perish, than for your whole body to be cast into hell.

[OvercomeEvil]

Narrow is the gate and difficult is the way which leads to life, and there are few who find it. Matthew 7:14.

[OvercomeEvil]

Jude 1:18-19 "They told you there should be mockers in the last time, who should walk after their own ungodly lusts. These be they who separate themselves, sensual, having not the Spirit.

[251carol]

This dude is a friggin' lunatic... a hatemonger. Poor soul. He has a mental illness and people are actually sitting in those pews? Love is the answer. So simple.

[crusty101x]

This church is dead.

[SoldierofChrist87]

Finney fails.

[OomPoppaMowMow]

This preacher is distorting written text and mocking others to justified his own belief.

Though I speak with the tongues of angels and have not love it profiteth me nothing.

This video is profitless and a mockery to the love of Christ.

[JermarParker]

Salvation is so easy and so free, no wonder many people don't believe the True Gospel of BY GRACE THROUGH FAITH IN JESUS CHRIST WITHOUT THE DEEDS OF THE LAW (TURNING FROM SIN)

[testament1uk]

Having read most of Finney's works including his systematic theology I can assure you that Pastor Anderson hasn't read or understood his works. He is basing his sermon on the views of others. Finney never claimed to be sinless or perfect but stated that there are times when a person does not sin, this may be for a hour a day or possibly longer. Knowing that the works of Finney are long and lengthy I challenge Mr Anderson to confirm that he has read Finneys systematic theology. I bet he hasn't

[Americanluvunit]

I think pastor Anderson is a wolf in sheep's clothing.

[mog74real]

Hell is your portion if u don't repent!

[TheReaLIrishGuy]

Stephen! Your finally right about something but now no one is listening because you've become the anti-authority on doctrine. This is what happens when a false prophet preaches on a false prophet

[mccallidaho]

haha your comment is truly right on!

[therellim]

OK "Pastor" Stephen....we all admit it.

After years of proving every other person wrong, including pretty much every PREACHER known to man....

YOU ARE THE ONLY ONE RIGHT.

Congratulations.

Have fun being spewn from the mouth of God.  A brood of Vipers you are.

[littleredbirdy]

"Anyone who rejected the law of Moses died without mercy on the testimony of two or three witnesses. 29How much more severely do you think a man deserves to be punished who has trampled the Son of God under foot, who has treated as an unholy thing the blood of the covenant that sanctified him, and who has insulted the Spirit of grace? "

"THAT SANCTIFIED HIM"?

Seems you ignore half of the New Testament and take a few scritpures out of context to prove a point.

[littleredbirdy]

You give me one scripture, but I can give you more than 5 which talks about the unforgivable sin.

(and it is a sin that can ONLY be committed by someone once saved)

[dwaynesweatman1988]

micky mousing in the pulpit

[AlCh1990]

I love 1:55.

[Godnotman]

Stop hating your brother and preach the Word!

[GREEN3305]

Enter in at the straight gate, for wide is the gate and broad is the way that leads to destruction, and many there be that will go in. Not every man who says to me Lord, Lord shall enter into the Kingdom of heaven. Many will say to me have we not prophesied in your name and cast our Devils? And in your name done many works? And then I will profess to them, I never knew you, depart from me you who work iniquity.

[GREEN3305]

Once saved always saved? I bet Judas Iscariot would beg to differ. The bible teaches repentance and faith in Jesus. Matt 5:19 Whosoever break one of the least Commandments, and teach men so, he shall be called LEAST in the Kingdom of Heaven:but whoever shall do and teach my commandments shall be called Great in the Kingdom of heaven.

[littleredbirdy]

Going through the narrow path is easy?!

This man is spewing just as much bile as Finney.

If you believe salvation is easy you are sadly mistaken....the NARROW path is narrow for a reason....

[littleredbirdy]

You can lose your salvation.....

[ironclad452]

littleredbirdy said "You can lose your salvation..... "

Maybe you can lose yours. But someone for whom Christ died cannot lose theirs.

[littleredbirdy]

Read Hebrews 10. Read the epistles of John.

have you forgotten the story of Ananias in Acts? There is an unforgivable sin, and it can only be committed by someone who has been forgiven at one time.

You are just spewing modern baptist theology.

[ironclad452]

Hebrews is about forsaking Christ for legalism. The ones for whom this is a threat are those who have not believed the gospel (Heb 4.2) Instead of relying fully on Christ, they were depending upon their obedience. I'd be able to address more in a PM (no space here)

And ask yourself this. Does your doctrine get the same questions asked of Paul in Romans 9 (for starters)? Is Gods fairness and justice questioned in your doctrine?

Read Rom 5:10 and tell me what you think of it

And I'm no baptist

[littleredbirdy]

just read the story of Ananias.

Tell me about poor Ananias.

[ironclad452]

First of all, which Ananias? I'll assume the one from Acts 5.

The ONLY thing we know about him and his wife is that he sold property, held some back, and was struck dead

Now prove to me that either 1) he lost his salvation or 2) he was saved to begin with

Ananias does NOT teach that salvation can be lost, only that GOD HATES SIN and deals with it severely. That's it!

Now ... your thoughts on Romans 5.10, please? :)

[littleredbirdy]

You did not read the story.

Peter said, "Why has Satan filled thine heart". FILLED! Implying he wasn't there before! Implying he was saved!

He was saved because he witnessed all the miracles and himself had been with the apostles and was "of one heart". Why else would he have been dropped dead if he was not saved to begin with? Did the Pharisess get struck down after they disblieved and stoned Stephen?

You are reading Romans out of context.

[ironclad452]

My friend, you are clearly reading your doctrine into the text. Your implication is not warranted. There is no reason at all to assume that Ananias was a saved Christian. To assume that because God didn't deal the same with another sinner is just silly.

To the audience: What you've witnessed from littleredbirdy is CLASSIC eisegesis. It doesn't get any clearer than that.

What does Romans 5:10 say, lrb?

[ironclad452]

Another thing, you are also ASSUMING that Ananias witnessed miracles and was with the apostles and was "of one heart". Nowhere in the text is ANY of that found!

There is a lot of assuming going on from you, my friend. There isn't one bit of evidence to suggest he was a saved Christian, I'm afraid.

The purpose of this story is clear in Acts 5:11. This was a lesson on the holiness of God. HE WILL NOT TOLERATE SIN. Even IF you were to develop a case for your doctrine, you can't use this text!

[24beam]

Finney, Wesley, Sam Jones, and others didn't have eternal security figured out but they sure did alot more for God than bro. steve anderson.

[jtwidmer]

My thoughts: Paul, in Romans stated that he did not want to sin, but he continued to do so. He then clarified that the sin was not commited by him (meaning the new man in Christ) but the sin that lived within him. To me, this explains how we die to sin, but still struggle with it. Struggling is ok, because we make effort. Not minding that we sin is a problem. Thats my thought, thanks for reading it. God bless.

[Aaron637]

Slandering a godly man who brought revival.

[ocpud2999]

Before you Say that you might want to spend several months reading his systatic theology. When you do I promise you will be shocked.

[Aaron637]

I have read it through....and gone back and re-read it. I wish preachers preached heavy heart searching sermons these days like he did. It calls all men to a holy life and true repentance ...he preached against all sin saying there is no excuse for it (only man made excuses through unbiblical doctrines of the church). He preached salvation through Christ alone on the condition of repentance. That is the gospel. He was a minister of Christ not a defender of sin like many modern preachers.

[ocpud2999]

He also claimed that you can be sin free. Which is impossible. Yes sin is the responsibility of man and we will sin no matter what. What happends to a man who is born again whoever is he sees his sin and starts to become sanctified. Man will always sin but a person who is regenerated will be convicted of that sin and we will continually repent. But we will never be sin free. But since you deny original sin like Finney you reject that Idea.

[ocpud2999]

Consider this verse as well: If we say we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us. 9 If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness. 10 If we say we have not sinned, we make him a liar, and his word is not in us. 1 John 8-10. Looks like we have a contradiction here. 1 John 3:9 appears to contradict. What is your exegesis for the scriptures? Or do you think the word is not inerrant?

[HalieusOPsuche]

oxpus2999 > you states "He (Finney) claimed that you can be sin free. Which is impossible"

this is what Jesus says >>>

Rev 2:7 "...To him that OVERCOMETH will I give to eat of the tree of life, which is in the midst of the paradise of God.

ocpud2999 > if you're Not an Overcomer, you will Not eat from the Tree of Life.

What does Jesus mean by an "Overcomer" ?

Overcome the world, satan, Sin.

Jesus Christ also said believers names can be blotted out of the book of life.

[Xavier350]

Just because he said overcome doesnt mean he meant be 100% sinless, he meant you will not be controlled or bound by sin, but by righteousness, learn to context bro.

[Freewillheresy]

Ok Idiot, I mean actus..... Let me show you what "overcomer" means so that you are without excuse. 1John5:4,5.. Now you are accountable and not ignorant anymore. The next time you take this verse out of context, you will be storing up wrath for yourself.

[jpw1769]

read 1john 5:5

[HalieusOPsuche]

jpw1769 > your understanding of 'belief' is very shallow indeed.

read the whole of scripture to know what true salvation belief is.

Even Demons BELIEVE & Tremble so Don't Boast in your 'Belief'

[jpw1769]

Demons believe in Jesus, not on Jesus.

Believe in- agree on some facts

Believe on- to trust and rely upon. to have faith.

[HalieusOPsuche]

jpw1769 > you clever talk is Contrary to the apostle James who made NO such disctinction.

you simply want to claim belief & Not embrace all scripture.

clearly you ignoring the book of James & much more scripture proves this it true.

you like your clever one liners, not clever at all.

[jpw1769]

so you're trying to use Jame's letter to subtily push your works salvation on me?

if you teach that you can lose your salvation, then you believe in works savlation because you think that somehow man has some part in salvation other than his/her faith.

James did say that you can have faith w/o works.

[HalieusOPsuche]

jpw1769 > a lot of false teachers like playing semantics just as you have.

the apostle James makes NO such distinction regarding belief...but of course you in your wisdom think you 'semantics' are superior to the apostle James

[jpw1769]

James was simply exhorting the bretheren to "let their light so shine before men"(as Jesus said in Matthew). Or in other words, "act like a christian"

no good deed will justify any man in God's sight.

Every saved person was justified by faith in God's eyes. but by works in man's eyes.

man's righteousness (obedience to the commandments, turning from sin, etc.) is nothing but filth in God's eyes (Isaiah 64:6)

[HalieusOPsuche]

p.s jpw1769 >>> you can teach a parrot to say "Jesus is Lord"......where does that Leave your "easy believism" theory ???

Read the book of James if you want to know what True God fearing Belief / Faith is.

what it Is NOT, Is mere "Lip Service" as Most professing christian do.

What did Jesus say to the Pharisees ???

"You declare with your Lips that you Love God BUT Your Heart is Far from Me"

You need to go deeper than Lip Service 'jpw1769'.

[jpw1769]

I'm not talking about "lip service"

i'm talking about simple childlike faith in the Lord Jesus.

not this force slavery under Jesus that you call "gospel"

God wants us to serve us freely (he wouldn't get much glory by forcing us to serve him. I obey God because I love him, not to get saved)

[HalieusOPsuche]

jpw1769 >>> no dout you believe in the False Doctrine of OSAS, Once Saved Always Saved.

Again, evidence of 'easy believism'

[jpw1769]

why would Jesus make salvation difficult if he was so "loving"?

"Jesus loved you so much, he gave his perfect blood for your sins, only believing in him is enough to save you. But if you don't keep the law perfectly afterward, you'll lose your savlation"

wow thats a loving Jesus for ya

I wouldn't kick my kids out the family if they disobey me, so you're saying that God is not as good of a father as i am?

well if i proclaim a false gospel, the tell me what must i really do to be saved?

[HalieusOPsuche]

jpw1769 >>> you've just exposed yourself as being deceived.

quote " I wouldn't kick my kids out the family if they disobey me...."

well 'jpw1769' Jesus Christ says otherwise >>>

Mat 12:50 For whosoever SHALL DO THE WILL OF MY FATHER which is in heaven, THE SAME IS MY BROTHER, and SISTER, and MOTHER.

So you see "jpw1769" "Doing the WILL of the Father" REQUIRES OBEDIENCE !!!

If you do NOT Obey, You are NOT a member of His Family, ie. brother, sister, mother.

[jpw1769]

well if i'm deceived, please tell me how to be saved???

[HalieusOPsuche]

jpw1769 >>> i didn't say you preach a False Gospel, i said you believe some False Doctrine, there's a difference.

However, "A Little Leaven Leaveneth the Whole Lump" ie. a little false doctrine Leaveneth the whole thus a problem.

How to be saved ? Jesus said "Repent & Believe the Gospel"

Proof of True Repentance ?

1Jo 5:2 ".. children of God, when we love God, & keep his commandments.

For this is the love of God, that we keep his commandments: & his commandments are not grievous.

[jpw1769]

what about acts 16:30-31?

there has been some thing going on where they said that Jesus was preaching the "gospel of the kingdom of God" and that the apostles preached the "gospel of Grace"

[HalieusOPsuche]

p.s jpw1769 >>> which brings us back to the beginning....Many will come in My name & say Lord, Lord, & I (Jesus) will say, Depart from me ye who practice iniquity.

Point is...Many Profess "Belief" & "Faith" but the True Evidence of being a child of God is that we Do Obey & Our Obedience is Out of Love (Not Grievous to keep) Not Out of Obligation.

We are saved by Grace through Faith, but Our Fruit is Evidence of True Salvation Faith, Not mere words.

God bless.

[jpw1769]

they believed in. the bible says believe ON.

they thought that their "wonderful works" will earn their salvation

Eph. 2:9

Not of WORKS, lest any man should boast

Rom 3:28

...we are justified [made righteous] by faith without the deeds of the law[10 commandments, gen, exo, lev, num, deu]

[jpw1769]

"Fruit is Evidence"

so you're saying that if a saved person never wins a soul to Christ, then they were never saved to begin with?

[HalieusOPsuche]

jpw1769 >>> Jesus Christ said "Ye shall know them by their fruits".....NOT me....But it is Obvious to anyone with a shred of God's wisdom that if the Fruit of the Spirit is Not Evident in a persons Life, it's is because the Spirit of God is Not in them....real Simple.

thus you have many that profess "Lord, Lord".....but do Not Obey, Do Not bear good fruit, Do Not participate in the harvest, do Not the will of God.

It quite obvious, profession of Faith ALONE is Not Proof One is Saved.

[jpw1769]

hold up, you said "ye shall know them by their fruits"

then you say something about the fruit of the Spirit.

thats the Fruit of the Spirit. the "them" Jesus was talking about was false prophets

almost everytime the word "fruit" is used in the bible, it is referring to multiplying

God's 1st command to mankind: "be FRUITFUL and MULTIPLY"

[HalieusOPsuche]

jpw1769 >>> i'll leave you to your 'word games'.

[FuroraCeltica]

@jpw1769 there is fruit other than witnessing to others. For example, growing in knowledge of God, walking closer with God and developing a more Christ like character

[jpw1769]

john 6:40

[HalieusOPsuche]

p.s jpw1769 > read the book of James if you want a better understanding of what true salvation belief actually is.

'easy believism' will take many to hell.

[jpw1769]

don't take God's words out of context to teach your works salvation

But I fear, lest by any means, as the serpent beguiled Eve through his subtilty, so your minds should be corrupted from the SIMPLICITY that is in Christ.

-2Corinthians 11:3

simplicity comes from the word SIMPLE

SIMPLE means EASY

[ocpud2999]

Today People who claim they're Christians yet they sin without feeling convicted They say. We are all sinners we can't help it. They walk as if there a non believer. Yes those people are Defender of sin. But if a person stuggles with sin and the holly spirt convicts them they start to work with overcoming sin. Will a person overcome sin in the is life. No but thru convition of the holly spiirt that person slowly gets away from that sin. But we sin so much we dont know when we sin half the time

[Everlastingson]

1John 3:9

Whosoever is born of God doth not commit sin; for His seed remaineth in him: and he cannot sin, because he is born of God."

[Aaron637]

Amen

[Everlastingson]

1John 3:5-8

"and ye know that He was manifested to take away our sins; and in Him is no sin.

whosoever abideth in Him sinneth not:- whosoever sinneth hath not seen Him, neither know Him. Little children, let no man deceive you: he that doeth righteousness is righteous, even as He is righteous. He that committeth sin is of the devil; for the devil sinneth from the beginning. For this purpose the Son of God was manifested, that He might destroy the works of the devil.

[Everlastingson]

Charles Finney was used by God to bring a mighty revival. The second you crossed the border into Rome, you came under the conviction of sins. The preacher has no testamony of the many facets of that old nature where God has convicted him, he has repented and sought forgiveness, and then His victory over that sin was made sure by the cleansing of the blood. If you have testamony of this in just one single area of your life, why would you not continue to pursue God for the total victory He won.

[Autumn6]

Easy Believism is biblical truth. People want to make faith in Jesus Christ hard so that they can feel PRIDE when they've "converted".

[Aaron637]

Nah. They make it hard which it is so we know it is not us working in us but Christ alone by His Spirit. How does that bring pride? It brings complete dependance. Faith in Christ for forgivness and the perfecting of love by the Spirit....for love is the summary of the law. Sin is to transgress the law of love (also summarized by the previous commandmants) as Paul states in romans. There can be no pride in absolute dependance...nor can their be in true love.

[ihaveaverybadcold]

this division among the people is a lack of dividing the truth....this is why there are 38thousand denominations in the world today....lack of study

[michaelmarkley]

if you sinning living like the devil baptists go to heaven...I'll stay here...

[awguenin]

If us sinning 'living like the devil' baptists go to heaven, they should like promote you to God or something, right? So Michael, if you have the power to never sin now that you're 'saved,' how did you ever get lost in the first place? How come your power to never sin didn't kick in before you committed that first sin, your holeyness.

[jpmckown]

1peter4:18 states.."If it is hard for the righteous to be saved, what will become of the ungodly and the sinner? DO you have a clue?

[jpmckown]

Jesus said the way is narrow and few find it.. YOU promote the broad way.. "anyone can go to heaven, just believe on Christ,,, That is all you must do ....Just believe" If that was the case than many would find the gate..

[kh1wisdom]

Walk up to a random person today and ask him if he believes that the Christ of the Bible has the power to save his soul from Hell. Better yet, ask ten people. You'll find that many people lack that "simple", "easy believism" faith of trusting our Lord Jesus. "For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved." Romans 10:13

[ihaveaverybadcold]

how do you believe different than the person that believed and the lord said depart from me you who are in iniquity?

[lynxian1]

Jesus Christ died on the cross bearing all mens sins, if you believe a need to add works to this whether it be hail mary's, or any other docterine then you are one of those who are in iniquity.

No man can do works to bring him into righteousness with God, you would always come short, salvation is the GIFT of God, ONLY through faith alone in Jesus, you cant buy it, or earn it, IT IS A GIFT!

St. John 3:16 ..that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life

[HalieusOPsuche]

kh1wisdom why don't you speak the WHOLE Oracles of God ?

The bible says a LOT more about the PROOF that an Individual has True Faith/Belief, beyond you taking One Isolated Scripture & Boasting in "Easy Believism"

Scripture says "Do Not Boast in your Belief, Even the Demons Believe & Tremble"

Also, Show me your Faith Without Works & I will Show you my Faith By My Works.

Christ said if you Truly Love Him you will OBEY & keep the Commandments & the commandments are Not Grievous to Keep

[ChurchOfTheWay]

I don't know what's worse: Finney's perfectionism or this guy's easy believism. Both are heresies.

[slavicmissions]

Amen on his easy believism

[ironclad452]

Bingo on easy believism, ChurchOfTheWay. This character (Scott Anderson) is as off base in regards to salvation as Finney was. He preaches KJV only (According to him, a liberal church is one that uses the NIV? ha!) And he preaches "say a prayer and you're in" salvation.

I've spoken to him in online chatrooms and know him a bit. He's simply an old fundie baptist. And very wrong in his soteriology.

[danceforbaumer]

Explain the two natures. Explain Rom. 2:6-11.

[lynxian1]

You have to understand that Paul is talking to the Romans, warning them that they face the wrath of God for false docterine and worship (see Romans 1:21-26), and at the beginning of Romans 2:1 Paul says THEREFORE meaning AND BECAUSE OF THIS... He's saying 'You knew God, and still you worship him not, still you worship false images' so he gave them up unto vile afflictions, and will judge them accordingly.

Please read and study the bible in its full context.

[skulletpriest]

Read 1 John 3:7-10 and tell me what it means.

[edwardpf123]

Read 1Jn.1:10 and tell me what it means. Clearly, no man can live sinlessly, but the new man never sins (Rom.6), but the Old man never stops sinning and that is why we have to get a new resurrection body. 1Jn.3:7-10 is explained by the two natures.