@harrypannell1 “Only” in my book it’s wrong? “Only” mine? Erm… And the lawmakers and the majority of people in the UK, of course; theirs too. Don’t think you’ve thought that through, fella.
So, you ARE saying that anything – even causing suffering and taking life – is OK with you, as long as it’s “fun”? It just gets worse.
The rest of your posting is just stuff you’ve repeated a number of times now without really saying anything.
@harrypannell1 OK, Harry, boy: You say that I “know fuck all about” hunting. Educate me.
A couple of questions: The Burns Inquiry asked the Countryside Alliance for evidence to show that hunting was necessary for wildlife management and pest control. But the CA couldn’t produce any such evidence. Why was that?
Hunt supporters say, like you, that the Ban is having no effect on hunting. Why do you reckon then that the CA says that the Ban is affecting rural communities? Can’t both be true.
Hunting with dogs has been illegal for six years. No-one – except hunters – gives a shit. And therefore questions are being asked, and will continue to be asked, about its necessity. And as the public debate resurfaces, questions will be asked publicly about hunting practices and all the hideous shit that really goes on, rather than the sanatized image the hunting lobby would like us to fall for.
@harrypannell1 And what, in any case, is meant by ‘control’? We keep hearing that word. ‘Control’ is a reassuring word. It gives the impression of process, of something determinable. But it is not.
Control suggests that fox numbers are out of control – but there is no evidence to suggest that this is the case. There are too many foxes? Says who? Who determines the right number of foxes? By what criteria?
No, this is random and arbitrary killing, without method, process or (ironically) control.
@harrypannell1 A ban on hunting with dogs is important. Clearly, hunters are – ahem – ‘confused’ as to whether it is a ‘sport’ or a practical necessity, hopping from foot to foot. But the fact that it can even be remotely considered a sport is clearly wrong. The O.E.D. defines ‘sport’ as “amusement, diversion, fun” (O.E.D.). Any pastime which causes suffering and death as “amusement, diversion, fun” is self-evidently morally bankrupt.
@harrypannell1 You’re right that there is “no need of a repeal”. But you’re wrong in saying that there’s no need for a Ban. And 76% of the UK population agree – as does 72% of the rural UK population. While Cameron seems intent on ignoring the fact, we thankfully still live in a democracy. Let us hope that democratic principles prevail.
@harrypannell1 The fact you last out in your tone tells me you are quite wound up and very defensive over the matter. This shows you are frustrated and feeling the need to insult. Therefor i can only presume you are feeling the pressure of the actions of us great people who are making more progress every day.
@harrypannell1 You see :) the vote has been put off indefinately. Check out todays news, you will see the facts for yourself, you have minimal support and now even the PM has backed down. Its over for you, you cant even catch many foxes on your biggest hunt day of the year. Check out LACS's monitoring, most of your kind came back empty handed :)
@rothschad - the vote on Hunting has been put back to 2012 because there are (obviously) more pressing issues for the government. Hunting people understand that, and you say that the hunts have minimal support?! Well have you seen the amount of people that go out every hunting day? No, probably not. The LACS monitoring and the people in the above clip can be violent and sad people, they care nothing for the welfare of the fox - hunts care for the fox.
@horselover100 "Hunts care for the fox"??? What? You take it out a nice saucer of milk and some chew sticks?? Or are you refering to when you build dens and release loads of chickens to keep the population up for the hunt?? You do have minimal support, a few dozen friends and family turning out is hardly a majority of the population is it? I think you will find the actual figure is 86% do not support hunting with hounds and isnt it about 2 thirds of country folk do not support it either.
@rothschad - No, not in that way, in the sense that before the ban, the hunts controlled the fox population so (unlike in the LACS deerpark - where as those deer are not controlled, they starve) the foxes did not over-populate and starve to death, a horrible and painful way to die. And as for your odd comment about releasing chickens....what?! Makes no sense to me. Build dens?! What?!! Oh and that poll was probably a LACS one? Or an anti-hunt group!? Why don't you like hunting Rothschad?
@horselover100 I have no issue with hunting what so ever. I have hunted myself. But i ate what i hunted and i did not do it for a jolly day out. Ripping an animal to shreds and training on cubs is not hunting, its just murder. The poll was done by mori, an independant group and recognised as the leading in the country. You never control fox population. More foxes are killed each night by cars than the hunt does in a year or more so that point is mute.
@rothschad - I don't particularly want to eat a fox...don't think they taste as nice as lamb or beef...You don't get it - riders take their horses hunting for many reasons, not just for a jolly day out - point-to-pointers need to be qualified for races, as do ponies who want to go pony racing, also to just exercise horses, and to see parts of the country that aren't normally seen - every heard of anything called tradition as well? A traditional way of life.
@rothschad - Murder?! Murder is the wrong word, kill is more fitting as you can only murder a human...we don't kill foxes or cubs any more because of the ban. And before the ban, the foxes were killed instantly and the cubs killed instantly. Maybe you should go after cars as foxes being killed both by cars and guns are normally wounded, before the ban, at least if hounds were on to a fox, the fox would either live or die NOT GET WOUNDED. I don't see my point as mute at all.
@rothschad Do you have figures of how many foxes were killed in 2002 lets say by hunts than by cars? Because you need evidence to back arguments up funnily enough. Hunting with hounds is hunting (before 18th Februaru 2005 that is), and it has been for hundreds of years - hounds chasing an animal is hunting! No way, you get those that hunt completely wrong! I have seen all types of people out hunting - from the farm worker, to the lord. As if that most hunters dislike us! Your point is mute.
@horselover100 You confuse hunting with what you do. Hunting with hounds is not hunting, its just a jolly day out for a few people who think they are important and can lord themselves over life. Even most hunters dislike what you do.
@harrypannell1 All fired up by todays hunt huh?? I think you must have missed that interview by the CA's new leader in that mag, his maters voice or similar. Your days are gone, your repeal is dead, your numbers are down and more and more of you are facing the courts all the time. Face facts!! Its all but over, the glorious work of the ever more powerfull LACS has seen you all but whimpering in the dark corners of your primative lives. Enjoy what you have left, it will be gone soon.
@whitbyjet65 If you think that things like these muppets are great I suggest you see someone who looks after mentally disabled people as they may be able to help you.
@sabbing Well now who is getting all verble then, why don't you come out of hiding and tell us who you are as you are so brave and innocent, but the truth is that you are only brave when there is ten of you and then you hide your face presumably because you are so ugly, thing is I could go on a diet to loose weight but an ugly person will always be ugly, shame. Of course it's never been known for Sabs to tell lies, no not much, in fact they have trouble telling the truth.
@nebcop Norman I would love to declare myself to you but we both know I would receive a visit from the hunt thugs and my car would be attacked, and disembowled animals left hanging on my front door. As for balaclavas I never wear them, can't stand them myself, but you know as well as I do that it isn't just hunt monitors that wear them, I have seen many followers ballied up. It is hot to day, you must find it very uncomfortable with all that weight you carry around.
@sabbing I don't think you would recieve any such visit, in fact I can guarentee you won't as you are not worth it, we probably know where most of the sabs live anyway especially the Wilds in their cosy little love nest in bognor, I hope they are getting fit for the forthcoming season as it could be very interesting, make sure that jannie has that direct line to the Police Helicopter in case she needs it, and it is a hot day and thanks for your concern, as always.
Veganing, two people just out for a walk in the countryside, so what Banana Boat have you just stepped off then, and a few yards or a 100 yards it is still tresspass, if you have a garden path that leads to your front door you would not appreciate me walking a foot off on the lawn, same difference I think
Relentless, I do not agree with you, I think that would be so cruel, the poor fox would no doubt suffer great pain from food poising by eating contaminated meat, shame on you, I believe in either a quick death by hounds or a full escape but not a slow painful death.
I don't think I made any attempt to stop them monitoring, Landowners have asked us to stop anyone who has nothing to do with the hunt from tresspassing on their land, if you listen I actually show them the footpath so they can go across the field, perhaps if they paid a subscription they might be made welcome
@mrfurrylover Uhm well then, I am going to hide in your garden and film you going about your legitimate business, just to make sure you arent breaking any mundane laws. And if you get annoyed it must mean that you are breaking the law.
Well Sabbing we know where your simpathy lies as you are probably doing the same, we follow them because they follow us, if they did'nt turn up there would be no problem would there, these two were tresspassing as they do when left unattended, I'm only sick when ill whereas you lot are sick sabs all the time
in the year before fox hunting was banned more foxes were killed by cars than in hunts, why don't they go and waste their time filming traffic?
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Pippip3030 4 months ago
@harrypannell1 “Impossible to police”? So, any law that’s difficult to police should be abandoned?
Anyone who’s determined to break a law should be rewarded by having that law scrapped?
Yeah, that’ll work… hahahahahaha
Not very good at this, are you, mate.
pybo7 8 months ago
@harrypannell1 “Only” in my book it’s wrong? “Only” mine? Erm… And the lawmakers and the majority of people in the UK, of course; theirs too. Don’t think you’ve thought that through, fella.
So, you ARE saying that anything – even causing suffering and taking life – is OK with you, as long as it’s “fun”? It just gets worse.
The rest of your posting is just stuff you’ve repeated a number of times now without really saying anything.
pybo7 8 months ago
@harrypannell1 You would be shocked at what i know and what you do not lol. Be careful out there ;)
rothschad 8 months ago
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pybo7 8 months ago
@harrypannell1 OK, Harry, boy: You say that I “know fuck all about” hunting. Educate me.
A couple of questions: The Burns Inquiry asked the Countryside Alliance for evidence to show that hunting was necessary for wildlife management and pest control. But the CA couldn’t produce any such evidence. Why was that?
Hunt supporters say, like you, that the Ban is having no effect on hunting. Why do you reckon then that the CA says that the Ban is affecting rural communities? Can’t both be true.
pybo7 8 months ago
@harrypannell1 You will have to remind me of the posting you saddo, you need to get a life.
sabbing 8 months ago
@harrypannell1 What are we “trying to achieve”?
Hunting with dogs has been illegal for six years. No-one – except hunters – gives a shit. And therefore questions are being asked, and will continue to be asked, about its necessity. And as the public debate resurfaces, questions will be asked publicly about hunting practices and all the hideous shit that really goes on, rather than the sanatized image the hunting lobby would like us to fall for.
pybo7 8 months ago
@harrypannell1 And what, in any case, is meant by ‘control’? We keep hearing that word. ‘Control’ is a reassuring word. It gives the impression of process, of something determinable. But it is not.
Control suggests that fox numbers are out of control – but there is no evidence to suggest that this is the case. There are too many foxes? Says who? Who determines the right number of foxes? By what criteria?
No, this is random and arbitrary killing, without method, process or (ironically) control.
pybo7 8 months ago
@harrypannell1 A ban on hunting with dogs is important. Clearly, hunters are – ahem – ‘confused’ as to whether it is a ‘sport’ or a practical necessity, hopping from foot to foot. But the fact that it can even be remotely considered a sport is clearly wrong. The O.E.D. defines ‘sport’ as “amusement, diversion, fun” (O.E.D.). Any pastime which causes suffering and death as “amusement, diversion, fun” is self-evidently morally bankrupt.
pybo7 8 months ago
@harrypannell1 You’re right that there is “no need of a repeal”. But you’re wrong in saying that there’s no need for a Ban. And 76% of the UK population agree – as does 72% of the rural UK population. While Cameron seems intent on ignoring the fact, we thankfully still live in a democracy. Let us hope that democratic principles prevail.
pybo7 8 months ago
@harrypannell1 The fact you last out in your tone tells me you are quite wound up and very defensive over the matter. This shows you are frustrated and feeling the need to insult. Therefor i can only presume you are feeling the pressure of the actions of us great people who are making more progress every day.
rothschad 1 year ago
@harrypannell1 You see :) the vote has been put off indefinately. Check out todays news, you will see the facts for yourself, you have minimal support and now even the PM has backed down. Its over for you, you cant even catch many foxes on your biggest hunt day of the year. Check out LACS's monitoring, most of your kind came back empty handed :)
rothschad 1 year ago
@rothschad - the vote on Hunting has been put back to 2012 because there are (obviously) more pressing issues for the government. Hunting people understand that, and you say that the hunts have minimal support?! Well have you seen the amount of people that go out every hunting day? No, probably not. The LACS monitoring and the people in the above clip can be violent and sad people, they care nothing for the welfare of the fox - hunts care for the fox.
horselover100 1 year ago
@horselover100 "Hunts care for the fox"??? What? You take it out a nice saucer of milk and some chew sticks?? Or are you refering to when you build dens and release loads of chickens to keep the population up for the hunt?? You do have minimal support, a few dozen friends and family turning out is hardly a majority of the population is it? I think you will find the actual figure is 86% do not support hunting with hounds and isnt it about 2 thirds of country folk do not support it either.
rothschad 1 year ago
@rothschad - No, not in that way, in the sense that before the ban, the hunts controlled the fox population so (unlike in the LACS deerpark - where as those deer are not controlled, they starve) the foxes did not over-populate and starve to death, a horrible and painful way to die. And as for your odd comment about releasing chickens....what?! Makes no sense to me. Build dens?! What?!! Oh and that poll was probably a LACS one? Or an anti-hunt group!? Why don't you like hunting Rothschad?
horselover100 1 year ago
@horselover100 I have no issue with hunting what so ever. I have hunted myself. But i ate what i hunted and i did not do it for a jolly day out. Ripping an animal to shreds and training on cubs is not hunting, its just murder. The poll was done by mori, an independant group and recognised as the leading in the country. You never control fox population. More foxes are killed each night by cars than the hunt does in a year or more so that point is mute.
rothschad 1 year ago
@rothschad - I don't particularly want to eat a fox...don't think they taste as nice as lamb or beef...You don't get it - riders take their horses hunting for many reasons, not just for a jolly day out - point-to-pointers need to be qualified for races, as do ponies who want to go pony racing, also to just exercise horses, and to see parts of the country that aren't normally seen - every heard of anything called tradition as well? A traditional way of life.
horselover100 1 year ago
@rothschad - Murder?! Murder is the wrong word, kill is more fitting as you can only murder a human...we don't kill foxes or cubs any more because of the ban. And before the ban, the foxes were killed instantly and the cubs killed instantly. Maybe you should go after cars as foxes being killed both by cars and guns are normally wounded, before the ban, at least if hounds were on to a fox, the fox would either live or die NOT GET WOUNDED. I don't see my point as mute at all.
horselover100 1 year ago
@rothschad Do you have figures of how many foxes were killed in 2002 lets say by hunts than by cars? Because you need evidence to back arguments up funnily enough. Hunting with hounds is hunting (before 18th Februaru 2005 that is), and it has been for hundreds of years - hounds chasing an animal is hunting! No way, you get those that hunt completely wrong! I have seen all types of people out hunting - from the farm worker, to the lord. As if that most hunters dislike us! Your point is mute.
horselover100 1 year ago
@horselover100 You confuse hunting with what you do. Hunting with hounds is not hunting, its just a jolly day out for a few people who think they are important and can lord themselves over life. Even most hunters dislike what you do.
rothschad 1 year ago
@harrypannell1 All fired up by todays hunt huh?? I think you must have missed that interview by the CA's new leader in that mag, his maters voice or similar. Your days are gone, your repeal is dead, your numbers are down and more and more of you are facing the courts all the time. Face facts!! Its all but over, the glorious work of the ever more powerfull LACS has seen you all but whimpering in the dark corners of your primative lives. Enjoy what you have left, it will be gone soon.
rothschad 1 year ago
I agree, Simon and Jane are bloody nuisances!!
horselover100 1 year ago
The antis are great! I hope they continue to make these sadist's lives an absolute misery.
whitbyjet65 1 year ago
@whitbyjet65 If you think that things like these muppets are great I suggest you see someone who looks after mentally disabled people as they may be able to help you.
nebcop 1 year ago
@rothschad hi, perhaps you would like to elaborate (that means give more detail) of your comment otherwise I will just delete it.
ps, can't see that happening as far too much support
nebcop 1 year ago
@sabbing Well now who is getting all verble then, why don't you come out of hiding and tell us who you are as you are so brave and innocent, but the truth is that you are only brave when there is ten of you and then you hide your face presumably because you are so ugly, thing is I could go on a diet to loose weight but an ugly person will always be ugly, shame. Of course it's never been known for Sabs to tell lies, no not much, in fact they have trouble telling the truth.
nebcop 1 year ago
@nebcop Norman I would love to declare myself to you but we both know I would receive a visit from the hunt thugs and my car would be attacked, and disembowled animals left hanging on my front door. As for balaclavas I never wear them, can't stand them myself, but you know as well as I do that it isn't just hunt monitors that wear them, I have seen many followers ballied up. It is hot to day, you must find it very uncomfortable with all that weight you carry around.
sabbing 1 year ago
@sabbing I don't think you would recieve any such visit, in fact I can guarentee you won't as you are not worth it, we probably know where most of the sabs live anyway especially the Wilds in their cosy little love nest in bognor, I hope they are getting fit for the forthcoming season as it could be very interesting, make sure that jannie has that direct line to the Police Helicopter in case she needs it, and it is a hot day and thanks for your concern, as always.
nebcop 1 year ago
Veganing, two people just out for a walk in the countryside, so what Banana Boat have you just stepped off then, and a few yards or a 100 yards it is still tresspass, if you have a garden path that leads to your front door you would not appreciate me walking a foot off on the lawn, same difference I think
nebcop 1 year ago
@nebcop full marks to the hunt steward for keeping his cool with they antagonising patronising idiots a would have lost it long before
bigvoicebigsong 1 year ago
This is just two people walking in the countryside and why does it matter if someone is a couple of yards off a footpath? Get a life
veganing 1 year ago
@veganing fucking hell are you being serious !!!! do you know who they are ???
lurcher08 1 year ago
Haha love this. Beat the hunt sabs with their own game!
andrewshd 1 year ago 2
Relentless, I do not agree with you, I think that would be so cruel, the poor fox would no doubt suffer great pain from food poising by eating contaminated meat, shame on you, I believe in either a quick death by hounds or a full escape but not a slow painful death.
nebcop 1 year ago
Simon and Jane Wild are two of the most horrible perjudiced idiots to ever walk the earth i hope a fox eats them one day
Relentlessbydefault 1 year ago 2
I don't think I made any attempt to stop them monitoring, Landowners have asked us to stop anyone who has nothing to do with the hunt from tresspassing on their land, if you listen I actually show them the footpath so they can go across the field, perhaps if they paid a subscription they might be made welcome
nebcop 1 year ago
The point of this video was?
If you hunt people had nothing to hide then
you wouldn't get so upset when people monitored
the hunt would you?
mrfurrylover 1 year ago
@mrfurrylover Uhm well then, I am going to hide in your garden and film you going about your legitimate business, just to make sure you arent breaking any mundane laws. And if you get annoyed it must mean that you are breaking the law.
andrewshd 1 year ago
@andrewshd Big garden you have
possibly the most boring video I have ever seen.
Two people walking along a footpath. Yawn yawn
mrfurrylover 1 year ago
Well Sabbing we know where your simpathy lies as you are probably doing the same, we follow them because they follow us, if they did'nt turn up there would be no problem would there, these two were tresspassing as they do when left unattended, I'm only sick when ill whereas you lot are sick sabs all the time
nebcop 2 years ago
What a sick man you are nebcop (norman bryant ) following people around and filming them all day while they are walking along footpath/bridle ways.
sabbing 2 years ago
@sabbing haha you bloody hypocrite.
andrewshd 1 year ago
@andrewshd Hypocrite ? In what way?
sabbing 1 year ago
@sabbing wekk isnt that exactly what you do? Apart from you do it on other peoples land.
andrewshd 1 year ago
Quite!
nebcop 2 years ago
What horrible obnoxious people anti's are....
sarahsworld99 2 years ago