Ron kovic had a good book but him being a pussy about war is what sets him off for me. So he got paralyzed. some soldiers fucking died for there country what makes him so god damn special.
@vietnam6660 Have you made the same sacrifice as Ron Kovic. If you haven't, you should not be talking that way about a decorated veteran who has spoken for so many veterans, including me. However, if you are paralyzed like Ron Kovic, then you have the right to criticize him.
@vietnam6660 hes (sic) belives (sic) oppion (sic) When you finally go for treatment for your PTSD you might want to sign up for some spelling classes..
Ask any Jew what it takes to stand up against the most powerful and ruthless group in the world, the Israeli lobby inside the United States.
Sabrosky has been calling for a new 9/11 investigation for some time. What makes him unique is that we have a Jew who can hardly be called self-hating or anti-Semitic or against Israel..."
I just wish we still had gun duels. That would stop a lot of this. Oh oh oh I don't believe in violence. I just talk trash because I know no one will kick the shit out of me .......
keep in minds dumbass 50% of those guys never serverd or saw combat in there life. and soem of them are just posers which i'm happy to say is now a law. :)
Dogmeat its "love" not "lvoe". Again proper english please. I don't speak or understand "retard". I'm struggling here to understand the point you are getting across because your way of phrasing things and spelling words is absolutely idiotic.
OMG dude your so fucked! rofl you LOVE ALEX Jones! hahaahahahahahahhahhaaahahahahahahhahahahaha
No wonder your trying to be a know it all! O dude... O man.... lolz. just stfu why'll your ahead. O wait as Alex Jones once said. THIS IS A DELTA FORCE SHOTGUN SHELL ROFL! really Seek help before Alex Brain washes your lame ass mind.
So a person that finds Alex Jones entertaining instantly loses all credibility in your world? Grow up dude. I found your hero the smirking chimp George dubya Bush entertaining at times too when he would fuck up his speeches. Didn't mean I automatically agreed with the asshole just like being entertained by Alex Jones doesn't mean I agree with him either. For christ's sakes you really are a stupid ignorant sheep fucking conservative neocon nutjob. You really are. Get help and an education.
grow up dude!? rofl.... maybe you should grow up, an stop beliving some Fat ass telling you what to belive. they guy goes down to DUI check points an says these are NWO check points lol. an ya you agree with Alex mic fatty, your using the same damn words he uses.
The guy really likes the word "NEO". then again who the hell said I was a Conservative? hell I'm not even Registerd to vote lol.
My Hero is Patton and My Father. I could really careless for Political BS.
Why was your father a hero to you? He was probably some GI Joe dickhead that thought killing people made him a man right? Those guys are pathetic just like you. And what have I done to make a difference? Probably a lot more than your 21 year old kiddie ass thats for sure.
No it is not a good way to be a man or a person. Its a good way to kill innocent people and hide one's own insecurities behind a gun and a special little uniform signifying you are now part of the meat grinder and will be worshipped by the media for it. And what have I done? I've helped to get Barack Obama elected, protested the illegal Iraq War, actually did something to help my country via community service and have served food to homeless people at shelters. Now what have you done jackass?
Special little uniform? that uniform is what gives you the right to say what you want to say an can also take it away from you. also it's called COMMUNITY service. for a reason.
I have helped in Search an Rescue Missions when I was only 17.
I have been in Dissaster relief offorts.
also getting slapped with Community service by a court doesn't count. :)
Wrong. Apparently your retarded ass needs to research the brilliant common sense teaching of Thomas Jefferson that says all men are free inherintely. Your dad and any other military bozo gives me no rights at all. I have those rights just by being human. Now certainly I may be killed for exercising those rights under a different kind of government but the fact remains I have those rights from birth and no man can ever take them away from me. Kill me for yes but literally strip away from me? No.
um Dumbass the Military gives you those rights. what are you a damn Idiot. it was a GENERAL named Washington that gave America the stuff it has now. an it is the Military the Protects those rights.
No it doesn't you ignorant fuckup. We all have inherint rights we are born with. The only thing government does is decides whether you live or die for exercising those rights. And you really need more of an education. If anything John Adams efforts were more important than Washington's. Without John Adams working hard to get Washington the resources to win the war with you wouldn't have any flag to idiotically wave around blindly right now.
um... dumbass. Ben Frankiln you can thank for getting the Rescorces. you don't know much do you? also it was more then one man. you know founding FATHERS. alos the Govermt does more then that. they set rules forth in which to follow. and obey. rules set for the ppl an by the ppl. without rules there is no order without order there is well we know what happens if that's not around.
wow I like your channel all up into the Political Bs lol. you know Politics get more ppl killed then wars. :) lol. an they also screw up stuff even more.
If you knew so much then you'd know that there was only something like 12,000 slaveowners at the time. Our bloodstained history isn't even close to Europe's. Our slave owning days lasted only a couple hundred years while their's is in the thousands. Not every white man in the south owned slaves. As far as racism, if blacks would let racism die, there would be virtually no racism in America. They say time heals all wounds, well, not when you have groups like the NAACP picking at it.
yeah sure, the blacks themselves are responsible for racism, a good white american would never discriminate a black,latino,chinese,indian etc:)
funny that in usa existed racial separation LAWS even 20 years AFTER ww2 and the fall of the racist hitler reich:)
however the short 200 y history of usa contains the cruelst form of slavery,a genocide on the first nations and 100 years of wars all over the world mostly based on blatant lies.
You're clueless. There's a lot I'd like to say right now, but I honestly don't feel like typing and really, arguing over the internet is retarded. Believe what you want chief, keep holding that hate in your heart, you'll go far...
then u agree with me that in fact the usa had racial and racistic separation LAWS until mid 60s and 20 years after the fall of the "evil racist 3.reich" showing the poor hypocricy americans live through and explains the plain stupidity of the avarage american in beeing talked into wars after wars based on blatant and cheap lies for a hundred yrs:)
if this is not a result of a 3rd world education system than its genetically dumbness.
Well he is siding with the people who protest the troops as much as the war. He's like the people spitting on the troops in the 60's. He may have his heart in the right place, but he's doing more harm than good.
I met Mr.Kovic, 7 years ago, and it is one of the greatest meeting I have ever had. I am from Canada, and I got introduced to him, by a friend, on the beach. It was surreal, he took the time to talk to me about his experiences and it was like a dream. Thanks to you Mr.Kovic, it was an honor , Cat
As Robert Kennedy said in his last speech: too often we honor swagger, in bluster & the weilders of force, too often do we excuse those who are willing toto build their own lives on shattered dreams of other human beings. But this much is clear- VIOLENCE BREEDS VIOLENCE, REPRESSION BREEDS RETALIATION, AND ONLY IN CLEANSING OF OUR WHOLE SOCIETY can we move this sickness from our souls.
I watched 4. july once more and just want to see that guy Ron Kovic on yotube. Im coming from Serbia (Balkan) and my english is not too good. Here we have similarly problems with people who dont want to participate in endless wars. We too have patriots feelings for our country but like this story everything become pointles after end of conflict. Why anybody should die for something that dont have meaning?
Please don't mark my comment as spam! Last week I asked Ron to come out and organize a march on Washington this Sring 2008 to end the wars in Iraq and Afganistan. Please run for President. You're our only hope. Comment?
Daniel and I went to Redono Beach last month. I left a CD with Gary and Billy called,"The Silent Majority". It is anything but silent! Silence is betrayal. Too many of us have been silent for too long. Daniel's Grandmother/Mom
Let's get Ron Kovic to lead an organized march on Washington this Spring 2008 to end the wars in Iraq and Afganistan before they spread to the whole region. We need him to run for President. He's the only real man we have left who hasn't forgotton mistakes of the past! We need you to come out Ron now.
Being paralysed is harder than dying
xpat73 1 year ago
Patriotism means supporting the troops but it also means being able to oppose wars when you don't believe in them !
rubes01 1 year ago
Ron kovic had a good book but him being a pussy about war is what sets him off for me. So he got paralyzed. some soldiers fucking died for there country what makes him so god damn special.
vietnam6660 1 year ago
@vietnam6660 Have you made the same sacrifice as Ron Kovic. If you haven't, you should not be talking that way about a decorated veteran who has spoken for so many veterans, including me. However, if you are paralyzed like Ron Kovic, then you have the right to criticize him.
shudderbug 1 year ago
@shudderbug Dude hes one of those guys who belives that war is wrong and inhumane in my oppion fuck him
vietnam6660 1 year ago
@vietnam6660 hes (sic) belives (sic) oppion (sic) When you finally go for treatment for your PTSD you might want to sign up for some spelling classes..
shudderbug 1 year ago
Ask any Jew what it takes to stand up against the most powerful and ruthless group in the world, the Israeli lobby inside the United States.
Sabrosky has been calling for a new 9/11 investigation for some time. What makes him unique is that we have a Jew who can hardly be called self-hating or anti-Semitic or against Israel..."
rotter555 1 year ago
we are the war machine thats a sad fact
1canyonguy 2 years ago
Great man ! Good Luck Mr. Kovic ! Peace !
Cain0296 2 years ago 2
Thanks for the video responses! The war not only cripples or disables an individual, it also cripples or disables an entire nation.
protester 2 years ago
I don't mind the free speech, talking trash,
I just wish we still had gun duels. That would stop a lot of this. Oh oh oh I don't believe in violence. I just talk trash because I know no one will kick the shit out of me .......
oldjarheadvet 3 years ago
love your country, hate your government
darkphilli 3 years ago
heroes
legija27 3 years ago
NEW REQUIREMENT: You must be able to pass a fourth grade sentence writing test in order to post here.
Thank you.
labunner1 3 years ago
Freedom isn't free ~
TJae1 3 years ago
Ron Kovic is a true hero. Something Songbird Mccain who made 32 propaganda videos for the enemy to avoid being tortured will never be.
darkpassengerx 3 years ago
True, true enough. Thanks.
labunner1 3 years ago
keep in minds dumbass 50% of those guys never serverd or saw combat in there life. and soem of them are just posers which i'm happy to say is now a law. :)
Dogmeat7 3 years ago
Dogmeat care to rephrase in proper english? I don't understand "retard".
darkpassengerx 3 years ago
you can't understand what I type wow your a retard. also I lvoe how every crappy protest group has that crappy little drum in the background lol.
Dogmeat7 3 years ago
Dogmeat its "love" not "lvoe". Again proper english please. I don't speak or understand "retard". I'm struggling here to understand the point you are getting across because your way of phrasing things and spelling words is absolutely idiotic.
darkpassengerx 3 years ago
your correcting typo's? lol. really stop avoiding the damn fact, an going after my stupid typo's I could really could careless about it.
Dogmeat7 3 years ago
Not just typos I also went after your horrid phrasing. Also its "You're" not "your" moron.
darkpassengerx 3 years ago
O no! Call the Spelling Police! a "Keybored Warrior" is trying to look good.
Dogmeat7 3 years ago
OMG dude your so fucked! rofl you LOVE ALEX Jones! hahaahahahahahahhahhaaahahahahahahhahahahaha
No wonder your trying to be a know it all! O dude... O man.... lolz. just stfu why'll your ahead. O wait as Alex Jones once said. THIS IS A DELTA FORCE SHOTGUN SHELL ROFL! really Seek help before Alex Brain washes your lame ass mind.
Dogmeat7 3 years ago
So a person that finds Alex Jones entertaining instantly loses all credibility in your world? Grow up dude. I found your hero the smirking chimp George dubya Bush entertaining at times too when he would fuck up his speeches. Didn't mean I automatically agreed with the asshole just like being entertained by Alex Jones doesn't mean I agree with him either. For christ's sakes you really are a stupid ignorant sheep fucking conservative neocon nutjob. You really are. Get help and an education.
darkpassengerx 3 years ago
grow up dude!? rofl.... maybe you should grow up, an stop beliving some Fat ass telling you what to belive. they guy goes down to DUI check points an says these are NWO check points lol. an ya you agree with Alex mic fatty, your using the same damn words he uses.
The guy really likes the word "NEO". then again who the hell said I was a Conservative? hell I'm not even Registerd to vote lol.
My Hero is Patton and My Father. I could really careless for Political BS.
Dogmeat7 3 years ago
Why was your father a hero to you? He was probably some GI Joe dickhead that thought killing people made him a man right? Those guys are pathetic just like you. And what have I done to make a difference? Probably a lot more than your 21 year old kiddie ass thats for sure.
darkpassengerx 3 years ago
he retired 33 years from the Militarty 4 tours in Vietnam, Navy and Coast Gaurd.
By the way what have you done? avoiding that one too?
an Military Service is a very good way of being a Man/Person.
Dogmeat7 3 years ago
No it is not a good way to be a man or a person. Its a good way to kill innocent people and hide one's own insecurities behind a gun and a special little uniform signifying you are now part of the meat grinder and will be worshipped by the media for it. And what have I done? I've helped to get Barack Obama elected, protested the illegal Iraq War, actually did something to help my country via community service and have served food to homeless people at shelters. Now what have you done jackass?
darkpassengerx 3 years ago
right cause Obama is shitign alot of forces to Afganistan. since Iraq is damn near finished.
Dogmeat7 3 years ago
@Dogmeat7 not really
xpat73 1 year ago
Special little uniform? that uniform is what gives you the right to say what you want to say an can also take it away from you. also it's called COMMUNITY service. for a reason.
I have helped in Search an Rescue Missions when I was only 17.
I have been in Dissaster relief offorts.
also getting slapped with Community service by a court doesn't count. :)
Dogmeat7 3 years ago
Wrong. Apparently your retarded ass needs to research the brilliant common sense teaching of Thomas Jefferson that says all men are free inherintely. Your dad and any other military bozo gives me no rights at all. I have those rights just by being human. Now certainly I may be killed for exercising those rights under a different kind of government but the fact remains I have those rights from birth and no man can ever take them away from me. Kill me for yes but literally strip away from me? No.
darkpassengerx 3 years ago
um Dumbass the Military gives you those rights. what are you a damn Idiot. it was a GENERAL named Washington that gave America the stuff it has now. an it is the Military the Protects those rights.
Dogmeat7 3 years ago
No it doesn't you ignorant fuckup. We all have inherint rights we are born with. The only thing government does is decides whether you live or die for exercising those rights. And you really need more of an education. If anything John Adams efforts were more important than Washington's. Without John Adams working hard to get Washington the resources to win the war with you wouldn't have any flag to idiotically wave around blindly right now.
darkpassengerx 3 years ago
um... dumbass. Ben Frankiln you can thank for getting the Rescorces. you don't know much do you? also it was more then one man. you know founding FATHERS. alos the Govermt does more then that. they set rules forth in which to follow. and obey. rules set for the ppl an by the ppl. without rules there is no order without order there is well we know what happens if that's not around.
Dogmeat7 3 years ago
wow I like your channel all up into the Political Bs lol. you know Politics get more ppl killed then wars. :) lol. an they also screw up stuff even more.
God I wish they made ppl earn the right to vote.
Dogmeat7 3 years ago
@darkpassengerx
quoting jefferson about freedom isnt very clever when one knows he was one of the biggest slaveowners of his time.
however i agree with the statement but doublestandarts and hypocricy was allways part of americas bloodstained and violent history.
a nazistate based on ethnic cleansing genozide and slavery.
where exactly is or was the free country of usa?
blacks were separated by law until mid 60s.
the whole usa=freedom talking is selfhypnotic bs.
wake up.
horror11 2 years ago
If you knew so much then you'd know that there was only something like 12,000 slaveowners at the time. Our bloodstained history isn't even close to Europe's. Our slave owning days lasted only a couple hundred years while their's is in the thousands. Not every white man in the south owned slaves. As far as racism, if blacks would let racism die, there would be virtually no racism in America. They say time heals all wounds, well, not when you have groups like the NAACP picking at it.
chosen11979 2 years ago
yeah sure, the blacks themselves are responsible for racism, a good white american would never discriminate a black,latino,chinese,indian etc:)
funny that in usa existed racial separation LAWS even 20 years AFTER ww2 and the fall of the racist hitler reich:)
however the short 200 y history of usa contains the cruelst form of slavery,a genocide on the first nations and 100 years of wars all over the world mostly based on blatant lies.
horror11 2 years ago
You're clueless. There's a lot I'd like to say right now, but I honestly don't feel like typing and really, arguing over the internet is retarded. Believe what you want chief, keep holding that hate in your heart, you'll go far...
chosen11979 2 years ago
so u say there was no racial separation laws in usa until mid 60s?
now we can see clearly WHO is indeed clueless:)
horror11 2 years ago
When did I say anything even remotley resembling that? You dumb motherfucker.
chosen11979 2 years ago
then u agree with me that in fact the usa had racial and racistic separation LAWS until mid 60s and 20 years after the fall of the "evil racist 3.reich" showing the poor hypocricy americans live through and explains the plain stupidity of the avarage american in beeing talked into wars after wars based on blatant and cheap lies for a hundred yrs:)
if this is not a result of a 3rd world education system than its genetically dumbness.
horror11 2 years ago
lets see your 28 what have you done to make a differnce? besides find your way out of a wet paper bag.
Dogmeat7 3 years ago
Kovic was right about vietnam - but this just puts him in the opposite position he was in - he is now harming the vets.
Alfrunk 3 years ago
In what way?
labunner1 3 years ago
Well he is siding with the people who protest the troops as much as the war. He's like the people spitting on the troops in the 60's. He may have his heart in the right place, but he's doing more harm than good.
Alfrunk 3 years ago
I disagree. I don't think he's disrespectful of vets at all. He's doing the right thing.
labunner1 3 years ago
Man, seeing Kovic back on the stage after watching Born on the Fourth of July is surreal. He's such a good man.
dubnobasswithmahead 3 years ago 2
I met Mr.Kovic, 7 years ago, and it is one of the greatest meeting I have ever had. I am from Canada, and I got introduced to him, by a friend, on the beach. It was surreal, he took the time to talk to me about his experiences and it was like a dream. Thanks to you Mr.Kovic, it was an honor , Cat
supercath22 3 years ago
As Robert Kennedy said in his last speech: too often we honor swagger, in bluster & the weilders of force, too often do we excuse those who are willing toto build their own lives on shattered dreams of other human beings. But this much is clear- VIOLENCE BREEDS VIOLENCE, REPRESSION BREEDS RETALIATION, AND ONLY IN CLEANSING OF OUR WHOLE SOCIETY can we move this sickness from our souls.
yael716 3 years ago
Brilliant!
labunner1 3 years ago
Ugh- just tell that to the jews in WWII you sick moron.
Alfrunk 3 years ago
Maybe Ron is just bitter he was injured in Vietnam?
Godzilla1985 3 years ago
...if he isn't he should be.
labunner1 3 years ago
maybe u need to read his book and find out exactly what he is "bitter" about.
JulietsMan 3 years ago
@Godzilla1985
indeed, many vets of character don't bitch when their arm or leg gets blows off.
chica476 1 year ago
Happy Birthday Ron, We have lost touch. I painted your portrait and gave it to you while we were filming "Born". Hope you are
still planting sunflowers. Have a Happy Day my friend.
valleyjoe3 3 years ago
HAPPY BIRTHDAY TO RON and a MANY HAPPY RETURNS OF TODAY.From my heart to Ron.
alexthebullo 3 years ago
I watched 4. july once more and just want to see that guy Ron Kovic on yotube. Im coming from Serbia (Balkan) and my english is not too good. Here we have similarly problems with people who dont want to participate in endless wars. We too have patriots feelings for our country but like this story everything become pointles after end of conflict. Why anybody should die for something that dont have meaning?
rajkods 3 years ago
Rajkods,
That is a good question; why die for something that does not have meaning?
Some people are compelled to use violence to solve problems. Unfortunately, violence will not solve the problems.
labunner1 3 years ago
Yea, but those violent people are allways in advantage against peacemakers.
Political leaders and system dont care for single person.
Its a shame that anybodys goverment exploit someone patriot feelings based on lies.
rajkods 3 years ago
Would he sign his book for me!
slimpickensusaf 3 years ago
my aunt and ron are really good friends, so i met him, he is really cool,nice, he rocks
panther1714 3 years ago
I consider Ron Kovic as patriotic an American as Audy Murphy. And I think Audy would agree with me!
20mmnagler 4 years ago
Hey, I didn't mark your comment as spam!
labunner1 4 years ago
Please don't mark my comment as spam! Last week I asked Ron to come out and organize a march on Washington this Sring 2008 to end the wars in Iraq and Afganistan. Please run for President. You're our only hope. Comment?
dkmorano23 4 years ago
Daniel and I went to Redono Beach last month. I left a CD with Gary and Billy called,"The Silent Majority". It is anything but silent! Silence is betrayal. Too many of us have been silent for too long. Daniel's Grandmother/Mom
dkmorano23 4 years ago
Let's get Ron Kovic to lead an organized march on Washington this Spring 2008 to end the wars in Iraq and Afganistan before they spread to the whole region. We need him to run for President. He's the only real man we have left who hasn't forgotton mistakes of the past! We need you to come out Ron now.
dkmorano23 4 years ago
great guy, great film, inspiring person
Ron still has a drinx named after him
as anyone who has been to LAs promenades knows
so he will be remembered long after, me, Gabe collett, am gone
8data 4 years ago 2
ooooh.. I'm so glad you posted this. I was there, but I missed his speech.
VronRN 4 years ago 2
Thanks Vron! Your videos are great!
labunner1 4 years ago
"We've got to have the courage to stop this war machine."
losthills 4 years ago 2