How about this, all Christian bashers' and Christians alike shut the hell up. No one is going to convert anyone on YouTube. Chill and listen to the music..
guys as a teen i must say all of u here act like fricking lil kids.getting evidence of God is nearly impossible and demanding it online makes u the forcer rather than an atheist or agnostic.u can't get "evidence of God" online.I'm not a religious person at all but we all must choose our own path.we all can speak our minds yes but the choice is up 2 u.getting evidence of just God makes u the person who knows God exists and only he
just grow up and accept nobody has it and STOP FIGHTING ON MUSIC!
guys religious arguments over the internet only end up making both sides angry so i suggest you don't do it plus if you are do it some where else I love God and I love demon hunter and there is nothing wrong with having debates about religion this just really isn't the place
@drpeper1996 sure it is! why not? as long as we christians aren't being hateful! like many of us tend to get when we feel attacked, we need to show love and compassion even if they are hating on us! but i say go right ahead with these discussions on here!
I like this band they rock also their not afraid to say their christian I rather be labeled a christian than something far from that although I act like it sometimes God bless everybody on youtube.
I find it quite interesting that so many Christian bashers decide to view and comment on the video of a Christian band...personally I came here to listen to music from an awesome band, not to read a religious debate supported by weak evidence.
@Plutoizreal lol im the same with you...but our flaw we both and probably many others run into is that we decide to scroll down and read and than say somethin lol
Jeez, all you haters are starting to bum me out. I don't get that there are so many well-educated people out there, why are they all so stupid? u all think everything got here throught a "big bang?" pathetic! before you respond to this post, take a look at anything around you. then look up the molecular structure of that item. if you can still say "yeah, all that was made by some random explosion, along with everything else in the universe," you are a true idiot!
You guys must like demon hunter or you wouldn't be wasting your breath slamming the GOD they serve. One day you will get your wish and have a muslim or buddhist leader so you better start studing so you don't get beheaded for all your crazy beliefs. Where are these old testament scripture that you talk about ?
I love it how ever christian band on youtube (that I have listened to) has people hating christians on it. If you don't like christians, thats fine, I can respect that, but seriously do you have to argue on a music video. Can't you people just make a forum where you do all your hating instead of on the comment section of a good music video.
its easy god made the earth and us he sent his son to die for us some reject him some dont its not that hard to figure and seeing as im a christian those some are not if they reject in the end ill win even still i WIN!!!
you atheists are no better you are pushing your views on people who honestly will never accept them, how would you feel if someone went up to you and challenged everything you ever believed in ? you'd be screaming heretic! BLASPHEMY to.
@jaxjace1 So true, but Christians don't knock on peoples doors, that I know of. maybe some wacko pastors do that. only Catholics and Jehovah's witness' do that where I live. Catholics and Jehovah's witness people are the people who yell out "if you don't join us, then you're going to hell!". I have nothing against atheism.
@jaxjace1 And Christians do the same. Boo-fucking-hooo. You're not unique, god doesn't love you - all there is is empty space. We cannot experience the spiritual because all of our senses are material, we're merely consciousness.
okay guys really... you Christians who say you have a relationship with god and that the atheists are lambs to the slaughter of hell just makes me sick,
more people have died over religion than anything else in the history of man and you wanna fight some more about it? it can only end badly. im an atheist.
Ok.. Yes this is a christian band, and yes this is most likely about God, BUT.. Regardless, I'm tired of coming on hear to listen to this song and looking at you all going back and forth, This is exactly why athiests and christians don't get along. LEarn to respect other peoples opinions and STFU Your Giving this Awesome song a Bad Juju, And it's starting to make the pandas Cry. Don't be a jerk, Think of the Pandas.
theses stupid arguments about religion are ruining this awesome song. Yeah everyone believes something different. GET OVER IT. This music is awesome no matter what you think it's meaning is, that is different for everyone. So stop arguing about it and just enjoy the music.
@XAConner22 I get your point, but maybe in other songs you would be able to interpret it otherwise. But, either way, I think we can all agree that its damn good music :)
What the fuck people, no one should care what the other person says about religion or whatever. I mean, I'm atheist and don't give a fuck that this is "christian music". It sounds good, so I listen to it. If I wanted to pay attention to the lyrics and interpret it, I will, but I will in my own way. It doesn't have to be about god or christianity. Music is fucking music, and you need to accept that.
Ok. I'm athiest. And quite frankly alot of you athiests posting these comments give respectful athiests a bad name. Same for you Religious people doing the same as the Athiest. Learn to stop giving a fuck what other people wish to believe and you'll be much happier.
atheists I've read some comments by many non-believers and i have something 2 say.Not all Christians r murderous freaks who kill 4 wat the OT preaches(yes back them the laws applied 2 all and if they didn't do wat the laws said harsh punishment came) like stoning dudes or chicks 4 cheating.or stoning gay ppl..in fact i ain't even anti-gay b/c i don't care.as Christians we r suppose 2 love NOT HATE.
not every Christian is the same..I'm 16 so i can easily prove hateful adults wrong
Jesus hasn't return because there are still people that need to be born. wars to fight and we arent dark enough yet. I am proud to call myself a christian. I love JESUS CHRIST!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Some times labeling a genre onto a band just makes it harder for more plp to listen to them. Music should just be labeled as what you like and don't, it truely makes everything better :P
i listen to all types of music....and yes that does include satanic music if that is even a genre ....and the only reason i made that comment was because i thought it was ignorant of others to leave asinine comments about stuff they didnt know anything about.....i study religions, all types because it is interesting and that is one of my pet peeves....
I am an Atheist, I like this band a lot of their music. I do however not hear or understand any Christian references or anything like that, I just tie what he says into how I experience life. I also have nothing against Christians, my best friend is one.
Although knocking on my door at 8am while I'm hungover does piss me off something horrible. :P
@shotgunreaper hey this nothing towards you and im sorry if it comes offensive i honestly dont mean it but the reason you dont understand the christian refrences is because you are not following God. i am a strong believer and i still cant understand half the stuff about God. but i trust Him with everythign in me and i know when He wants me to understand i will. thats why you dont understand,
sorry if that sounded offensive i honestly didnt mean it to be. it just came out a bit diffrent.
@shotgunreaper The whole point of this band is to branch out to people OTHER than christians with good messages in their songs instead of being completely about Jesus. I'm glad that even atheists are listening to this :)
@shotgunreaper Hello friend this is because you don't believe in God. God's word states that the things of God are as foolishness to those whom are perishing. By "perishing" He is referring to those whom will not be in heaven with Him at the end of time. I'll pray for you so maybe you can hear and see the joy we have. Much love to you my friend.
okey. Demon hunter is a Christian band. don't try and slam Christianity when you love listening to Christian rock. And I don't understand why ppl who don't believe in God have a huge tenancy to talk so much freakin trash like ain't got no home training. you can say what ever you want- but understand this DanteGWolf. Everything on this planet is a fact to God's presence. Science it's self gives him credit. History gives him credit. there's NOTHING on this planet and in this universe that doesn't.
When we pray to God...he doesn't necessarily give us what we want; he gives us what he knows we need. We need to pray for his will to be done in our lives...he knows us better than we know ourselves most of the time. But, many of the things we pray for get answered...if they are good and edifying.
I pray for you all. So that one day you may be enlightened and learn to accept God and Jesus. I pray for your salvation. And know that even if you do not believe in God, He believes in you, and loves you.
demon hunter rocks!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! at first i couldnt believe that they are a christian group bt they are. keep doing what u doing i lve demond hunter & come to aToledo please
why do idiots look up christian music then get on there and try to talk trash about religion...i am have never seen a christian look up satanic music and leave a big long comment about Jesus.....it is very childish and ppl like you are just looking for a fight...if you dont believe in God well that is something that you have to live with...but Religion brings hope and that is a good thing and there is no need to try and destroy others belifs your your amusement... man you guy piss me off!
@imanmcmanus1 You've never seen that? well you haven't looked very hard for it, if anything they are far more aggressive about it... the damage religion does far outweighs the good it does! I like the music but it just wish it wasn't all about jesus and shit!!
Religion brings hope only to a little part of the believers... for the others, religion is just something to kill for, to make thousands and milions of people live in fear, and a way for kiling women in the south.... or cut off their hands, or tongue, or rape them and then kill 'em with lots of stones....
@imanmcmanus1 Funny - then your eyes aren't open enough. There are plenty of Christians who search up "Satanic" (There is hardly any. 98% of all metal bands admit to NOT being Satanic in any way) just to preach their brainwashing beliefs. There is no Christian God - know why? Old Testament: God is incredibly vengeful. New Testament, suddenly.. God loves us all despite wiping out the entire earth save for a single family, viewing homosexuals as abominations, and kicking Lucifer out for being ----
@Unkehz0r Jesus is the reason for the difference in the Old Testament and New Testament. Hence, New. I'm praying for us both brother, cause it didn't make a lot of sense to me at first. I'm a broken, sinful piece of trash... but a forgiven, broken sinful piece of trash thanks to Jesus, not religion.
@mrbaws No, people were responsible for it. Jesus was mentioned in the old Testament - but you christians couldn't stand having an imperfect "Lord" so you had to edit it. Christianity forego's Homosexuality, which is also brought about by free will - but yet it is condemned, how's that allowing free will? Don't try to find any measure of excuse you can through your texts and verses and try to explain it away - thats what all christians do when their bible makes no sense at all in the end.
@Unkehz0r Levitius 18:6(IIRC) and I Corinthians 3(somewhere around there) if you use the "oh,it's the OLD testament" excuse. God is the same in the past,present,and future,so by that logic,he's NEVER liked homosexuality.
@Assasin1025 And yet it is dictated that God is even a male! How frankly.. stupid. Anyone with the least bit of intelligence would know that he is only "male" because he was created by MANKIND during the time men were made out to be the "Superior Sex". Logic also dictates, using the occams razor, that the simple explaination as to why the bible is so fucked up is because it was MADE by peoples imaginations. Simple as.
@Unkehz0r God has no "sex",we just imagine him in the form of a man because he made us in HIS image and he created MAN first,but we don't know his gender,if he has any.
@Unkehz0r To add to my other post,God DID give us free will,but there's a limit. Killing is free will,but it is condemned,same with all other sins. ALL sins are free will.
@Assasin1025 Thats hypocritical and contradictory, since it states "he" gave us "free will" to do whatever we wanted :) So there CANT be a so-called "limit" as you put it. All loving does not mean you condemn someone to an eternity of unimaginable suffering for.. lets say, a petty thing like speaking out against "him". So I think I quite really have every right to use the OLD TESTAMENT As a fact - Christianity is bullshit.
1.God didn't mean for us to go to Hell. He made it for Satan and the fallen angels,people just so happen to end up there via separation from God(AKA Sin).
2.He gave us free will to do whatever we want,but that doesn't mean we can do ANYTHING we want,otherwise we would do drugs,steal,and kill and still go to Heaven without any consequences whatsoever,but that wouldn't work since SIN separates us from God. That's why he doesn't want us to sin to get separated.
@Assasin1025 You're trying to rationalize somethign that is absolutely absurd: it states in the bible "he" created -EVERYTHING-, that includes sin. If "he" DIDN'T want us to "Sin", then it wouldn't have been created. And no, we don't sin due to free will. We "Sin" due to oppression and a neglected society. Christianity was one of the main causes of such oppressions during the 17th-18th centuries and long before that.
@Assasin1025 I lold hard. Go read your bible again, ignorant asshole. It states that God is all knowing, that would mean he knew Lucifer would rebel. Therefor HE CREATED SIN HIMSELF.
Yes, its like Lucifer is omnipotent and can tempt us all at once, out of 5 billion bible a day? Thats bullshit.
ITs just an excuse for you christians and your inability to cope with the reality of today, face it, grow up from the Medieval ages - you're not there anymore. Science has replaced your gibberin bs
@Unkehz0r You call us "ignorant assholes"?? ...You know, what GodChaser289 is right...I may not know everything, but it seems like you've tried to convince yourself God is not real. How does Science explain the world? Evolution? no offense, bs. Aliens? more bs. I'm not going to shove anything down your throat. But message me if you want to know the truth. He loves you, I pray that you see that one day. I can cope with life just fine, but I tend to get into a bloody mess without Him.
@XXXMomentoMoriXXX Sorry buddy, but there's more evidence to the possibility aliens exist than there has ever been a Christian God. If you tend to "get in a mess" without your imaginary friend, then I suggest you go get counselling, it means you lack self-responsibility in the world.
Science didn't explain the world with Evolution, because it is a theory. That is why science is better - IT DOESNT SHOVE THINGS DOWN YOUR THROAT. Scientific facts are always constantly changing.
@Unkehz0r " IT DOESNT SHOVE THINGS DOWN YOUR THROAT. Scientific facts are always constantly changing."
Oh,Lord.
Of course they don't,they just turn down ANYTHING having to do with spirituality and force feed you scientific crap like the Big Band and Evolution,which they consider 100% despite it being only a "theory".
A true christian wouldn't shove it down your throat,a true christian does a subtle approach,and even when you tell them you don't believe in God,they just accept it.
Despite however we try to make you see the truth the Lord says that people will be willingly ignorant of him, so I'll just stop. But HE IS REAL. he does love for you. And that is the TRUTH, no matter what you say.
I told you I wasn't shoving anything down your throat.
And exactly, science is always changing, and will always change.
But my Jesus is the same yesterday as he is today and will be forever.
@XXXMomentoMoriXXX And that's a lie, Jesus is "Not the same as yesterday". He has been heavily editted from the Old testament to the new Testament quite heavily, because he didn't seem "Perfect" and more like a simple human being. Which, if he existed, he was. Quite possibly a human being who was utterly delusional and masochistic from the punishment he went through. ;)
It's just like Aleister Crowley, who claimed he could go invisible, yet in court what they asked him to back up "Magick"--
@Unkehz0r >.> He was God,but at the same time a human. He had power to even raise the dead,but in front of the Romans he wouldn't use them. Why? Well,think about it,he never showed off his power,he only used it to heal people.
@Assasin1025 Or, simply.. he didn't HAVE any power - because HE WAS MAKING IT UP. Wake up, you're in the 21st century. Fairytales only account to childhood, not the real world.
--he replied that he didn't feel they were even worth it/It wasn't for self-profit.
Isn't that similar to how Jesus responded when the Romans demanded he show his power? He was a fraud. As was Crowley, to this extent. They didn't have "Powers".
And why would he? Because they wanted him to do something magical to prove himself? He's the son of God, he didn't need to, and I'm pretty sure they wouldn't even have believed then. Would of said something like he was bewitched.
@XXXMomentoMoriXXX Because the evidence that Jesus existed has been proven fraudible. 1) The Shroud of Christ in the Catholic Church was made by Leonardo Da Vinci - an enemy to CHristianity. Yes, they scientifically proved it was made by Da Vinci - the face on the shroud is DA VINCI's. 2) The Spear of Christ was actually found in Constantinople long after any of your bible stories came into existence: More evidence your bible is full of post-prediction than actual prediction.
@XXXMomentoMoriXXX They found evidence that -A- Jesus existed, not a Jesus christ, however. He was recorded as a slave who was crucified on the Crucifix, which was a -T-, yes.. A T in historical records, not a cross. Yet again, how did Christianity get it wrong? Oh yeah, that's right, BECAUSE ITS A FAIRYTALE. It could even have been written a thousand years after the Roman empires fall :)
@Unkehz0r where is all this evidence that you keep mentioning? i've done years and years of research on so-called "proof" that the Bible is fake in any way. after years of searching, I have found zilch! now, i'm assuming that your like a 14-year old kid with nothing better to do than slam Christ, but seriously, grow up, and actually do a bit of searching to see if your "proof" actually lines up with what's in the Bible. also, through years of translation, the wording of the bible has changed.
@lionfang12 Actually, i'm 18 and i've done much more reasonable research than you have :) Stop contradicting your pathetic religion by insulting me, that's a good way to spread your imaginary friends love!
Ad Hominems much? You don't even know whether or not you're talking out of your own ass. Try getting yourself a copy of the Old Testament. Then get the New Testament. Compare them - IT HAS BEEN EDITTED, IDIOT. God Adhered to slavery, rape, the murder of entire civilizations and the----
---stoning of children who disobey their parents. STONING, TO DEATH. NOT PUNISHMENT, ITS MURDER.
Sorry, but your religion is bullshit. Grow up, start living in reality kid. There's 100x more LOGICAL scientific evidence that is against the bible than there is (Well, there isn't any supporting the bible, since its Pseudo-science) for your bible.
@XXXMomentoMoriXXX They have also scientifically proven that in the Old Testament, it says that Christ was crucified through the palms of his hands; which is impossible, because the nails would tear from the hands being unable to support them.
Then the New testament came along, OH WOW, SUDDENLY ITS THROUGH THE WRISTS! Yes, Occams Razor applied -- Because your church thought "OH SHIT!!!" And decided to edit it before your religion was outright discovered for what it really is: Bullshit.
@Unkehz0r idiot, if the Bible has been proven true, where is all this so-called "proof"? as a matter of fact, science SUPPORTS the Bible. Do a bit of research before you start slamming when you have no idea what you are even talking about. grow up, and find something else to do with your time instead of slamming God, who died for your bitch-ass!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
@XXXMomentoMoriXXX Its called your ego-self. There is no god. And Einstein, a Jewish believer in God, questioned the idea of a Personal God rather an a God for all. So yet again, you're wrong. :) You don't even know your own faith it seems. Try searching outside of your own box for once, even Einstein questioned the existence of a God.
@Unkehz0r you continue to make me laugh. just because someone famous questions the existance of God, all you 14-year old kiddies think that you know everything there is to know! I have an idea, before you post another whiny comment, find real proof that the Bible is wrong. simple as that, go on now, shoo!
@lionfang12 Idiot. Killing a person is the same as murdering a person. We're bred from the same Genome that started with a Black Human Female hundreds of thousands of years ago. Do your research.
In your bible, it states that if a Child disobeys his/her parents, they must be stoned to death. You fucking idiot, how blind can you be?
In the Old Testament, God vengefully killed just about anyone who didn't believe in him. Yes, an All loving god condones to murder and violent revenge. Nice
@XXXMomentoMoriXXX If your god was perfection then there would be no need to edit the bible :) Go figure. Read the Old Testament and compare it to the new. The Stoning of Children cannot be justified, nor can murdering a man (Which "God" "himself" did) for refusing to commit incest.
@Unkehz0r Honestly have you read the passages.... You need to learn before you teach so i would recommend taking another look and actually seeing what it means. Before trying to lecture someone on it. (and the Bible has not been edited Look at the scrolls they found of the bible and what's written honestly)
@XXXMomentoMoriXXX No. Of course not. It's a relationship with your ego-self and your imaginary friend (Aka machinations of your brain). You base the "truth" off of a book that was written AFTER the events, it didn't predict, nor has it predicted anything -accurately-. It has been editted time and time again over the thousands of years it has existed. You christians never accept this possibility: That it was written by smart, power-hungry men who knew how to sway the masses and --
-- knew how to play on their fears, likes and dislikes.
There is no heaven. There is the conception we like to believe in which we call "Heaven". That is why, when an Atheist experiences NDE, most atheists have reported to have seen nothing but were asleep the whole time. Then you have Buddhists, who experienced out of body experiences through consciousness alone. Then you have you christians, who saw a bright white light etc (And other stories by your kind that are exaggerated by far to--
--Suit your ego and displeasing life. We are creatures of fantasy, we like to fantasize what we don't/haven't had. And the brain complies with this imagination quite constantly, actually. Do your research.
Tell me why it is with NDE? Because, simply.. you think, and it becomes you. Thus, God is imaginary. Your Jesus is imaginary, the satan you believe in is Imaginary. IT'S IMAGINATION.
@Unkehz0r 40 power hungry men with no education(besides in Biblical principles)?
Most of them were some of the most humble people Jesus found.
Also,why do you accept Buddhists,but not Christians? Why are Christians pretty much the only ones to get all this crap? I never see any Buddhists or Muslims be criticized or shunned. Why do atheists only attack Christianity? I really don't see Christians forcing ANYONE to believe in God,only atheists attacking Christians and
@Assasin1025 Just like people today who have no education but make up for it by fantasizing and telling it to gullible people like yourself. And because you force it down our throats, and proclaim christianity is the only truth - which is bullshit, your god adheres to slavery and incest :) Get the fuck out.
@Assasin1025 Because, also, Buddhists have never slaughtered thousands of innocents for incredibly stupid reasons. Muslims have actually had decent leaders, unlike Christianity, such as Saladin. Why do you think it was considered in History that King Henry the Eigth was doing England/The world a favor by banning the Church?
Buddhists are some of the most peaceful beings on Earth - most don't believe in a God, they believe in Consciousness itself.
@Unkehz0r i truly feel very sorry for you. obviously you've never spent more than 3 seconds in a history class and obviously you are just saying random arguments you can think up because if if you are against God and Christ why would you have read the Old Testament and the New Testament.
Read the Old testament, then the new testament. Job done, I win little boy! In the Old Testament, God killed a man who refusing to have sex with his own sister. :) He adhered to Slavery, QUITE BLATANTLY.
Sorry, but I did alot of history, try coming up with a better argument, welcome to the block list.
@Unkehz0r , do a bit of thinking, and get your head out of your butthole. if you don't have anything better than that weak argument, this is gonna b easy! God says "do not murder", NOT "do not kill." there is a difference. also, i'm not gonna try to understand how God operates, cuz my head would explode. idk where that is in the Bible, but if God randomly killed a guy because he wouldn't perform incest, ill eat my boxers.
@lionfang12 Read the old Testament. Case proven. Don't skim read it, dont be a selective biased dick like most of you religious fanatics are, READ IT ALL.
@Unkehz0r Buddhists are a bunch of meditating hippies that think "it's all good man, just ignore everything around me......" also, ever heard of something called "judgement"? thousands of people WERE INDEED killed, but try pulling your hating head out of you butthole for a second and ask yourself why they were killed. in the city of Nineva, there was evil at every freakin turn, yet God spared them because they repented. other cities like Sodom and Gomora payed the price for not repenting.
@lionfang12 Buddhists are as a matter of fact the most peaceful people on earth. More so than ANY Christian has ever been (Since Jesus -DID NOT- exist). They've been beaten, constantly face oppression.. yet they have NEVER Spoken out or raised a finger. Sorry, but they put your beliefs to shame. Oh? And how many has "God" murdered compared to saved?
He wiped out the entire earth with a flood because they were TRICKED, and it WASNT their fault. They were tricked into mating with the "fallen".
@Unkehz0r Okay then killing people in your mind is fine if i believe it is Dude you really need to think before you speak or it makes you look like an idiot honestly)
@Unkehz0r i'm sorry you hate god, i dont know what he did to make you act like this, but it gets better. Just belive in him or you will be thrown it hell for ever when you die.
@saf7001 Saying things like that is going to make him hate God even more. You need to tell people about God's love and mercy and if they choose not to accept Him after you do that, that is their choice, but don't bash non-believers with the turn-or-burn principle. It just makes God sound like an uncaring, un-appealing being. I'm a Christian and I still got that impression.
@Caleb7557 As much as i agree, I bring up the point that if we give em a sugar-coated message then we will get em thinkin they're in candyland(no pun intended_
@Caleb7557 Turn-or-burn principle... lol im ganna have to use that at church sometime, thats a good description of what not to do, i like that man good job
So how do you explain your faulty logic and reasoning? Oh yeah, "GOD WILLS IT!" thats how. He's imaginary, yet he's a "GET OUT OF JAIL FOR FREE" Card, huh? In reality, buddy, if you did anything like that.. you'd end up in a mental institution and you would never see the outside world again.
The Shroud of Jesus, for example.. has been factually proven to be false. They discovered, yes.. and one of the researchers was CHRISTIAN!! that the Shroud was made by Leonardo Da Vinci - a man who----
--Who was against Christianity, and one of the greatest minds in history. If Christianty wasn't around and people listened to Da Vinci, we'd have had PLANES, YES.. PLANES, in the 17th to 18th's centuries LONG before we even had JETS! Do your research on Da Vinci, he did the anatomy of the Human Body perfectly, and he was exiled from his homeland because of it. He created the worlds first Prosthetic heart piece before we even started thinking of them. He created the first flying machine---
@Unkehz0r show me proof that anything in the bible was proven wrong? you will not be able to. all you will find is evolution wich you have to have faith to believe making you a hyhpocrite for bashing religion in generall because you are religious as well
---Yet, because of your brainwashing, fairytale belief, we've been held back for more than 500 years and more in Technology. We'd have FOUND a cure for cancer by now, if it weren't for your religion, one of the worst, and more.
@lionfang12 Fact - an All Loving God would treat everyone as equal and not judge them at all, because whatever we would do on the earth in the end wouldn't even comprehend to the "immaterial"/"Spirit" realm.
Take YOUR zealous head out of your ass, and grow up. It's the 21st Century. Your religion is dying, but infact it shouldn't have even existed.
@Unkehz0r have your parents ever spanked or grounded you? well its cause they love you they dont want to do it, but you disobeyed them and you had to be punished. God cant lie, all of satans followers will be casted into hell if he sent us all to heaven that would make him a lier and yes religion is dying and it should, but my faith in Jesus Christ is not and will not die. but you are entitled to your own belief and i respect that. i personally dont see a reason for arguing and wasting our lives
@Unkehz0r --I don't understand why we HAVE to believe all these things atheists want us to believe,but we can't even say "God" without getting the "ignorance" stamp placed on us. Seems like the Bible predicted it very well.
@Assasin1025 Again, you call me an atheist. Failtard. The bible did not predict. It is common sense people wont agree with your imaginary friends "religion", anyone would easily say that. It is post-prediction, which is also pseudo-knowledge, they didn't predict, they were events written AFTER said things happened. Jesus never existed, he's a story. A fairytale.
@XXXMomentoMoriXXX The truth is the Christian God was created to explain a world they didn't even understand. Such as one of the very first "Gods", Enki, was created for - to explain the things they did not understand, which we understand more so today with science, hence why Religion is no longer important (Aside from spiritual paths like Buddhism.)
So,if Christianity was made just to explain things,who wrote the Bible? 40+ authors with the same idea even though they lived in entirely different places and/or times? Read the Bible for once and meditate on it.
@Assasin1025 40+ authors who happened to be in on the same thing. Buddy, I can come up with many conspiracy's too! It's so easy to write up a fantasy make-believe story of a God in the story that doesn't even exist!
I read the bible one too many times. When you grow up, and realize its full of bollocks, you pretty much realize how much on an idiot you were for even believing it.
Actually, no Science doesn't turn down spirituality. It turns down PSEUDO-SCIENCE, much like all the 2012--
And actually, the theory of the big bang and the theory of evolution have alot more evidence to back them up than your imaginary "friend" does ;)
DOn't believe me? Read up on the Large Hadron Collider. It is designed to replicate the Big Bang. Sorry, but you're really not doing well to back up your religion if you start calling me ignorant and intolerable :) You've gone against it. Doesn't "God" hate your kind?
@Assasin1025 God doesn't exist. He wont, and cannot destroy the earth.. because he doesn't exist. How many times have your kind predicted the end of the earht? Lol, DOZENS, and it -NEVER- happened. Jesus christ predicted he'd return in a 1000 years. Oh look, 1000 years later.. He's not here, we're thousands of years past the sale-by date. Where is he? :) Oh yeah, he doesn't exist.
No actually, I grew up and became RESPONSIBLE for myself, not some imaginary friend. Idiots like you breed--
@Unkehz0r yea, well, see, he didn't say he'd come in 1,000 years: he said when he did come he'd reign on Earth for 1,000 years before the devil was released, then he's gonna throw him in the pit of fire forever...sorry, dude, you just got it wrong, and, i know you're not gonna like this, but, i'll be praying for you
@whatthemassivedeuce I'm about your attitude and I'm glad you're praying for Him,hopefully he'll see that God is there for him everywhere at every time.
@Assasin1025 And how many times has a "christian" prayed for me? It has made me laugh plenty, nothing happens. My day goes to the same as it usually does; a healthy income and a good batch of friends in the world, WHO AREN'T CHRISTIAN. :)
@whatthemassivedeuce Actually, I read ;) He did say he'd "Rule for a thousand years", but he indicated he would return also in the same time. Funnily enough, it never happened.
@Assasin1025 Actually, christians have predicted the earths end once every few years. Idiot much? They're doing it again now in 2012. They did it in 2000. They did it a hundred years ago. They did it thousands of years ago. They still do it now. Wow, where's the apocalypse? I don't see any!
And you just said because you're religious you don't have to be responsible. EXACTLY, you put it on all "GOD WILLS IT!" or "SATAN MADE ME DO IT!"
@Assasin1025 Once again, I said i've read hte bible way too many times to even give a fuck about what it says anymore. Its all bullshit.
1) You wouldn't EDIT your fucking bible if Jesus or God were already perfect.
2) God slaughtered millions, for example.. He killed a guy for refusing to commit INCEST! YES, INCEST, WITH HIS OWN SISTER. What a stupid fucking reason, don't believe me? ITS IN THE OLD TESTAMENT.
3) He enforces Slavery in the old Testament too. Wow, such a benevolent being!
@Assasin1025 The real reason why the testament was editted: You christians and catholics would lose power if you stuck wiht your old, horribly flawed and genocidal "God" in the old testament quite quickly ;)
You're losing power today. Simply because Science is more logical than Christianity ever was.
@Assasin1025 You fail to think. Try again. ;) Care to step out of your own box for once? Or are you scared your imaginary friend wont be able to be used as an excuse anymore?
@shamgar001 Funny - since i've said it 5 times in a row now that I have been a christian before, and a Catholic, and i've read that ridiculous bible more times than I can count. Please, go read their bible, since you haven't yourself. ;)
@Assasin1025 Changing subject are we? We've gone from heaven and hell, and now to the idea of Sin not being or being material. Here's something for you, we're not spiritual, we can't experience the spiritual because all of our senses are MATERIAL. If we experience something "spiritual", then it must take form in a material sense. Henceforth, everything you're saying is bollocks. It states clearly in your bible that God created everything. That means he made sin, that means he made lucifer rebel.
How about this, all Christian bashers' and Christians alike shut the hell up. No one is going to convert anyone on YouTube. Chill and listen to the music..
SMHH42 1 year ago
guys as a teen i must say all of u here act like fricking lil kids.getting evidence of God is nearly impossible and demanding it online makes u the forcer rather than an atheist or agnostic.u can't get "evidence of God" online.I'm not a religious person at all but we all must choose our own path.we all can speak our minds yes but the choice is up 2 u.getting evidence of just God makes u the person who knows God exists and only he
just grow up and accept nobody has it and STOP FIGHTING ON MUSIC!
Truthofaliar2 1 year ago
they where awesome just seen them live :)
mremzi94 1 year ago
guys religious arguments over the internet only end up making both sides angry so i suggest you don't do it plus if you are do it some where else I love God and I love demon hunter and there is nothing wrong with having debates about religion this just really isn't the place
drpeper1996 1 year ago
@drpeper1996 sure it is! why not? as long as we christians aren't being hateful! like many of us tend to get when we feel attacked, we need to show love and compassion even if they are hating on us! but i say go right ahead with these discussions on here!
sh9683 1 year ago
demon hunter best band ever
chris63134 1 year ago
sim ao cristianismo nao ao satanismo
jordanmineiro 1 year ago
I like this band they rock also their not afraid to say their christian I rather be labeled a christian than something far from that although I act like it sometimes God bless everybody on youtube.
heartlessperson1 1 year ago 13
like the music but dont really like the singing:(
airsoftbro123 1 year ago
@airsoftbro123 look up the same song but put in without vocals
TheEthman13 1 year ago
@TheEthman13 im starting to like it tho :)
airsoftbro123 1 year ago
I find it quite interesting that so many Christian bashers decide to view and comment on the video of a Christian band...personally I came here to listen to music from an awesome band, not to read a religious debate supported by weak evidence.
Plutoizreal 1 year ago 11
@Plutoizreal lol yupp. But the debates are funny too.
sweetjonathan14 1 year ago
@Plutoizreal lol im the same with you...but our flaw we both and probably many others run into is that we decide to scroll down and read and than say somethin lol
blinkingwhiteboy 1 year ago
Jeez, all you haters are starting to bum me out. I don't get that there are so many well-educated people out there, why are they all so stupid? u all think everything got here throught a "big bang?" pathetic! before you respond to this post, take a look at anything around you. then look up the molecular structure of that item. if you can still say "yeah, all that was made by some random explosion, along with everything else in the universe," you are a true idiot!
lionfang12 1 year ago
You guys must like demon hunter or you wouldn't be wasting your breath slamming the GOD they serve. One day you will get your wish and have a muslim or buddhist leader so you better start studing so you don't get beheaded for all your crazy beliefs. Where are these old testament scripture that you talk about ?
jwilsonstj 1 year ago
I love it how ever christian band on youtube (that I have listened to) has people hating christians on it. If you don't like christians, thats fine, I can respect that, but seriously do you have to argue on a music video. Can't you people just make a forum where you do all your hating instead of on the comment section of a good music video.
sasukefan822 1 year ago
Fantastic. GOD BLESS DEMON HUNTER.
GMSirLawrence 1 year ago
its easy god made the earth and us he sent his son to die for us some reject him some dont its not that hard to figure and seeing as im a christian those some are not if they reject in the end ill win even still i WIN!!!
sandfox56 1 year ago
I AM A DEMON HUNTER!
LiaBSakura 1 year ago
you atheists are no better you are pushing your views on people who honestly will never accept them, how would you feel if someone went up to you and challenged everything you ever believed in ? you'd be screaming heretic! BLASPHEMY to.
jaxjace1 1 year ago
@jaxjace1 So true, but Christians don't knock on peoples doors, that I know of. maybe some wacko pastors do that. only Catholics and Jehovah's witness' do that where I live. Catholics and Jehovah's witness people are the people who yell out "if you don't join us, then you're going to hell!". I have nothing against atheism.
gobble441 1 year ago
@jaxjace1 And Christians do the same. Boo-fucking-hooo. You're not unique, god doesn't love you - all there is is empty space. We cannot experience the spiritual because all of our senses are material, we're merely consciousness.
Unkehz0r 1 year ago
okay guys really... you Christians who say you have a relationship with god and that the atheists are lambs to the slaughter of hell just makes me sick,
more people have died over religion than anything else in the history of man and you wanna fight some more about it? it can only end badly. im an atheist.
jaxjace1 1 year ago
TUNNNNNE
Rampagedd 1 year ago
Ok.. Yes this is a christian band, and yes this is most likely about God, BUT.. Regardless, I'm tired of coming on hear to listen to this song and looking at you all going back and forth, This is exactly why athiests and christians don't get along. LEarn to respect other peoples opinions and STFU Your Giving this Awesome song a Bad Juju, And it's starting to make the pandas Cry. Don't be a jerk, Think of the Pandas.
PndaKttn 1 year ago
I'm not religious.
But love the music anyway :)
Robbeltje 1 year ago
Demon Hunter: the best of metal and the best of harmony :D
da1stjster 1 year ago
theses stupid arguments about religion are ruining this awesome song. Yeah everyone believes something different. GET OVER IT. This music is awesome no matter what you think it's meaning is, that is different for everyone. So stop arguing about it and just enjoy the music.
drheadshot12 1 year ago 2
Respect is something the world needs more of.
urfaceismessed 1 year ago
@XAConner22 Hehe lol I accidentally replied on my other account. -_-
Domogonus 1 year ago
@XAConner22 I get your point, but maybe in other songs you would be able to interpret it otherwise. But, either way, I think we can all agree that its damn good music :)
NeuroticGoth 1 year ago
I love this song!!
SemperFi91075 1 year ago
What the fuck people, no one should care what the other person says about religion or whatever. I mean, I'm atheist and don't give a fuck that this is "christian music". It sounds good, so I listen to it. If I wanted to pay attention to the lyrics and interpret it, I will, but I will in my own way. It doesn't have to be about god or christianity. Music is fucking music, and you need to accept that.
Domogonus 1 year ago
Ok. I'm athiest. And quite frankly alot of you athiests posting these comments give respectful athiests a bad name. Same for you Religious people doing the same as the Athiest. Learn to stop giving a fuck what other people wish to believe and you'll be much happier.
PndaKttn 1 year ago
atheists I've read some comments by many non-believers and i have something 2 say.Not all Christians r murderous freaks who kill 4 wat the OT preaches(yes back them the laws applied 2 all and if they didn't do wat the laws said harsh punishment came) like stoning dudes or chicks 4 cheating.or stoning gay ppl..in fact i ain't even anti-gay b/c i don't care.as Christians we r suppose 2 love NOT HATE.
not every Christian is the same..I'm 16 so i can easily prove hateful adults wrong
musicsavedmylife11 1 year ago
Religion Kills. Jesus Saves.
DanielmNFL 1 year ago
One of the best songs of all time!
dubydj 1 year ago
Jesus hasn't return because there are still people that need to be born. wars to fight and we arent dark enough yet. I am proud to call myself a christian. I love JESUS CHRIST!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
starkiller9695 1 year ago
I love Jesus and DH and the way they Wear Catholic Priest gowns with the sleeves cut off:)
TheColtonturner 1 year ago
aint gonna talk shit, it just aint my style
MattyFizzox 1 year ago
Some times labeling a genre onto a band just makes it harder for more plp to listen to them. Music should just be labeled as what you like and don't, it truely makes everything better :P
unsungzen 1 year ago
Hail Satan
tokiwartooth95 1 year ago
@tokiwartooth95 so you want to be etearnly damned?
GoWfanmuffyea 1 year ago
i listen to all types of music....and yes that does include satanic music if that is even a genre ....and the only reason i made that comment was because i thought it was ignorant of others to leave asinine comments about stuff they didnt know anything about.....i study religions, all types because it is interesting and that is one of my pet peeves....
imanmcmanus1 1 year ago
Awesome song--kind of makes me think of "Without You" by Breaking Benjamin.
panheadz4ever 1 year ago
I am an Atheist, I like this band a lot of their music. I do however not hear or understand any Christian references or anything like that, I just tie what he says into how I experience life. I also have nothing against Christians, my best friend is one.
Although knocking on my door at 8am while I'm hungover does piss me off something horrible. :P
shotgunreaper 1 year ago 12
@shotgunreaper agreed, that is a bother, damn traveling bible thumpers
fierygod14455 1 year ago
@shotgunreaper hey this nothing towards you and im sorry if it comes offensive i honestly dont mean it but the reason you dont understand the christian refrences is because you are not following God. i am a strong believer and i still cant understand half the stuff about God. but i trust Him with everythign in me and i know when He wants me to understand i will. thats why you dont understand,
sorry if that sounded offensive i honestly didnt mean it to be. it just came out a bit diffrent.
starkiller9695 1 year ago
@shotgunreaper The whole point of this band is to branch out to people OTHER than christians with good messages in their songs instead of being completely about Jesus. I'm glad that even atheists are listening to this :)
Assasin1025 1 year ago
@shotgunreaper Hello friend this is because you don't believe in God. God's word states that the things of God are as foolishness to those whom are perishing. By "perishing" He is referring to those whom will not be in heaven with Him at the end of time. I'll pray for you so maybe you can hear and see the joy we have. Much love to you my friend.
GodChaser289 1 year ago
i didnt like the screaming part it was unnessesary for the song
Metal7771 1 year ago
@Metal7771 nope. it wasn't.
seanyboy212 1 year ago
okey. Demon hunter is a Christian band. don't try and slam Christianity when you love listening to Christian rock. And I don't understand why ppl who don't believe in God have a huge tenancy to talk so much freakin trash like ain't got no home training. you can say what ever you want- but understand this DanteGWolf. Everything on this planet is a fact to God's presence. Science it's self gives him credit. History gives him credit. there's NOTHING on this planet and in this universe that doesn't.
adventgurl 1 year ago 2
When we pray to God...he doesn't necessarily give us what we want; he gives us what he knows we need. We need to pray for his will to be done in our lives...he knows us better than we know ourselves most of the time. But, many of the things we pray for get answered...if they are good and edifying.
msljyoung 1 year ago 2
APRIMEIRA VEZ QUE OS VI FKEI UM POUCO FORA DE MIM MAS ELES MANDAO MUITO BEM PARABENS DEMON HUNTER QUE ADOREM AJESUS
ORUSK9 1 year ago
-'Seek'- the LORD EveryDay&Yu Will See That Your Prayers Be Answered.
FOJCFWL 1 year ago
One Thousand Apologies GOD for my sins please for give me
ivanking777 1 year ago
duuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuude!!!!!!!!! this song rocks!! gotta frickin luv it!
awsomeSk8r1 1 year ago
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@Anyone who commented that in defiance of God.
I pray for you all. So that one day you may be enlightened and learn to accept God and Jesus. I pray for your salvation. And know that even if you do not believe in God, He believes in you, and loves you.
soulreaver1994 1 year ago
demon hunter rocks!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! at first i couldnt believe that they are a christian group bt they are. keep doing what u doing i lve demond hunter & come to aToledo please
broken123ism 1 year ago
why do idiots look up christian music then get on there and try to talk trash about religion...i am have never seen a christian look up satanic music and leave a big long comment about Jesus.....it is very childish and ppl like you are just looking for a fight...if you dont believe in God well that is something that you have to live with...but Religion brings hope and that is a good thing and there is no need to try and destroy others belifs your your amusement... man you guy piss me off!
imanmcmanus1 1 year ago 56
@imanmcmanus1 haha, that's actually not a bad idea!
krononomikon 1 year ago
@imanmcmanus1 kid, i highly doubt you listen to satanic music.
seanyboy212 1 year ago
i myself am not religious in anyway but i have total respect for what other people believe in. if they are happy that is all that matters
theleviathin44 1 year ago
@imanmcmanus1 Really? you haven't stopped by old slipknot vids then....
Uzi367 1 year ago
@imanmcmanus1 You've never seen that? well you haven't looked very hard for it, if anything they are far more aggressive about it... the damage religion does far outweighs the good it does! I like the music but it just wish it wasn't all about jesus and shit!!
soulsanctuarymusic1 1 year ago
@imanmcmanus1
Religion brings hope only to a little part of the believers... for the others, religion is just something to kill for, to make thousands and milions of people live in fear, and a way for kiling women in the south.... or cut off their hands, or tongue, or rape them and then kill 'em with lots of stones....
CanzaNoBaka 1 year ago
@imanmcmanus1 best thing said on youtube ever :D
ClanFtf 1 year ago
@imanmcmanus1 lol i dont believe in religion i believe in a relationship with God
:D
Dumpkoff1 1 year ago
@imanmcmanus1 I've seen alot of those actually...
PndaKttn 1 year ago
@imanmcmanus1 I agree with you
TKOBERJACKSON 1 year ago
@imanmcmanus1 Funny - then your eyes aren't open enough. There are plenty of Christians who search up "Satanic" (There is hardly any. 98% of all metal bands admit to NOT being Satanic in any way) just to preach their brainwashing beliefs. There is no Christian God - know why? Old Testament: God is incredibly vengeful. New Testament, suddenly.. God loves us all despite wiping out the entire earth save for a single family, viewing homosexuals as abominations, and kicking Lucifer out for being ----
Unkehz0r 1 year ago
@Unkehz0r Jesus is the reason for the difference in the Old Testament and New Testament. Hence, New. I'm praying for us both brother, cause it didn't make a lot of sense to me at first. I'm a broken, sinful piece of trash... but a forgiven, broken sinful piece of trash thanks to Jesus, not religion.
mrbaws 1 year ago
@mrbaws No, people were responsible for it. Jesus was mentioned in the old Testament - but you christians couldn't stand having an imperfect "Lord" so you had to edit it. Christianity forego's Homosexuality, which is also brought about by free will - but yet it is condemned, how's that allowing free will? Don't try to find any measure of excuse you can through your texts and verses and try to explain it away - thats what all christians do when their bible makes no sense at all in the end.
Unkehz0r 1 year ago
@Unkehz0r Levitius 18:6(IIRC) and I Corinthians 3(somewhere around there) if you use the "oh,it's the OLD testament" excuse. God is the same in the past,present,and future,so by that logic,he's NEVER liked homosexuality.
Assasin1025 1 year ago
@Assasin1025 And yet it is dictated that God is even a male! How frankly.. stupid. Anyone with the least bit of intelligence would know that he is only "male" because he was created by MANKIND during the time men were made out to be the "Superior Sex". Logic also dictates, using the occams razor, that the simple explaination as to why the bible is so fucked up is because it was MADE by peoples imaginations. Simple as.
Unkehz0r 1 year ago
@Unkehz0r God has no "sex",we just imagine him in the form of a man because he made us in HIS image and he created MAN first,but we don't know his gender,if he has any.
Assasin1025 1 year ago
@Unkehz0r To add to my other post,God DID give us free will,but there's a limit. Killing is free will,but it is condemned,same with all other sins. ALL sins are free will.
Assasin1025 1 year ago
@Assasin1025 Thats hypocritical and contradictory, since it states "he" gave us "free will" to do whatever we wanted :) So there CANT be a so-called "limit" as you put it. All loving does not mean you condemn someone to an eternity of unimaginable suffering for.. lets say, a petty thing like speaking out against "him". So I think I quite really have every right to use the OLD TESTAMENT As a fact - Christianity is bullshit.
Unkehz0r 1 year ago
@Unkehz0r
1.God didn't mean for us to go to Hell. He made it for Satan and the fallen angels,people just so happen to end up there via separation from God(AKA Sin).
2.He gave us free will to do whatever we want,but that doesn't mean we can do ANYTHING we want,otherwise we would do drugs,steal,and kill and still go to Heaven without any consequences whatsoever,but that wouldn't work since SIN separates us from God. That's why he doesn't want us to sin to get separated.
Assasin1025 1 year ago
@Assasin1025 You're trying to rationalize somethign that is absolutely absurd: it states in the bible "he" created -EVERYTHING-, that includes sin. If "he" DIDN'T want us to "Sin", then it wouldn't have been created. And no, we don't sin due to free will. We "Sin" due to oppression and a neglected society. Christianity was one of the main causes of such oppressions during the 17th-18th centuries and long before that.
Unkehz0r 1 year ago
@Unkehz0r Wow,just WOW. You fail SO badly,go read the Bible again,seriously.
God didn't create sin,sin is something that separates us from God,something Lucifer caused.
And I bet doing drugs is always due to oppression and negligence,right? Really,just stop.You're making yourself look even more ignorant.
Assasin1025 1 year ago
@Assasin1025 I lold hard. Go read your bible again, ignorant asshole. It states that God is all knowing, that would mean he knew Lucifer would rebel. Therefor HE CREATED SIN HIMSELF.
Yes, its like Lucifer is omnipotent and can tempt us all at once, out of 5 billion bible a day? Thats bullshit.
ITs just an excuse for you christians and your inability to cope with the reality of today, face it, grow up from the Medieval ages - you're not there anymore. Science has replaced your gibberin bs
Unkehz0r 1 year ago
XXXMomentoMoriXXX 1 year ago
@XXXMomentoMoriXXX Sorry buddy, but there's more evidence to the possibility aliens exist than there has ever been a Christian God. If you tend to "get in a mess" without your imaginary friend, then I suggest you go get counselling, it means you lack self-responsibility in the world.
Science didn't explain the world with Evolution, because it is a theory. That is why science is better - IT DOESNT SHOVE THINGS DOWN YOUR THROAT. Scientific facts are always constantly changing.
Unkehz0r 1 year ago
@Unkehz0r " IT DOESNT SHOVE THINGS DOWN YOUR THROAT. Scientific facts are always constantly changing."
Oh,Lord.
Of course they don't,they just turn down ANYTHING having to do with spirituality and force feed you scientific crap like the Big Band and Evolution,which they consider 100% despite it being only a "theory".
A true christian wouldn't shove it down your throat,a true christian does a subtle approach,and even when you tell them you don't believe in God,they just accept it.
Assasin1025 1 year ago
@Unkehz0r
Despite however we try to make you see the truth the Lord says that people will be willingly ignorant of him, so I'll just stop. But HE IS REAL. he does love for you. And that is the TRUTH, no matter what you say.
I told you I wasn't shoving anything down your throat.
And exactly, science is always changing, and will always change.
But my Jesus is the same yesterday as he is today and will be forever.
I hope you see the truth one day.
XXXMomentoMoriXXX 1 year ago
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@XXXMomentoMoriXXX No matter what I Say, you live in your world of imagination ;) You don't even know how the human brain works.
Unkehz0r 1 year ago
@XXXMomentoMoriXXX And that's a lie, Jesus is "Not the same as yesterday". He has been heavily editted from the Old testament to the new Testament quite heavily, because he didn't seem "Perfect" and more like a simple human being. Which, if he existed, he was. Quite possibly a human being who was utterly delusional and masochistic from the punishment he went through. ;)
It's just like Aleister Crowley, who claimed he could go invisible, yet in court what they asked him to back up "Magick"--
Unkehz0r 1 year ago
@Unkehz0r >.> He was God,but at the same time a human. He had power to even raise the dead,but in front of the Romans he wouldn't use them. Why? Well,think about it,he never showed off his power,he only used it to heal people.
Assasin1025 1 year ago
@Assasin1025 Or, simply.. he didn't HAVE any power - because HE WAS MAKING IT UP. Wake up, you're in the 21st century. Fairytales only account to childhood, not the real world.
Unkehz0r 1 year ago
--he replied that he didn't feel they were even worth it/It wasn't for self-profit.
Isn't that similar to how Jesus responded when the Romans demanded he show his power? He was a fraud. As was Crowley, to this extent. They didn't have "Powers".
Unkehz0r 1 year ago
@Unkehz0r
You are wrong.
Who are you to say Jesus is not the truth?
Were you there?
Do you have real evidence?
Of course not, that is why it is called faith.
though they have evidence that christ lived.
And why would he? Because they wanted him to do something magical to prove himself? He's the son of God, he didn't need to, and I'm pretty sure they wouldn't even have believed then. Would of said something like he was bewitched.
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XXXMomentoMoriXXX 1 year ago
@XXXMomentoMoriXXX Because the evidence that Jesus existed has been proven fraudible. 1) The Shroud of Christ in the Catholic Church was made by Leonardo Da Vinci - an enemy to CHristianity. Yes, they scientifically proved it was made by Da Vinci - the face on the shroud is DA VINCI's. 2) The Spear of Christ was actually found in Constantinople long after any of your bible stories came into existence: More evidence your bible is full of post-prediction than actual prediction.
Unkehz0r 1 year ago
@XXXMomentoMoriXXX They found evidence that -A- Jesus existed, not a Jesus christ, however. He was recorded as a slave who was crucified on the Crucifix, which was a -T-, yes.. A T in historical records, not a cross. Yet again, how did Christianity get it wrong? Oh yeah, that's right, BECAUSE ITS A FAIRYTALE. It could even have been written a thousand years after the Roman empires fall :)
Unkehz0r 1 year ago
@Unkehz0r where is all this evidence that you keep mentioning? i've done years and years of research on so-called "proof" that the Bible is fake in any way. after years of searching, I have found zilch! now, i'm assuming that your like a 14-year old kid with nothing better to do than slam Christ, but seriously, grow up, and actually do a bit of searching to see if your "proof" actually lines up with what's in the Bible. also, through years of translation, the wording of the bible has changed.
lionfang12 1 year ago
@lionfang12 Actually, i'm 18 and i've done much more reasonable research than you have :) Stop contradicting your pathetic religion by insulting me, that's a good way to spread your imaginary friends love!
Ad Hominems much? You don't even know whether or not you're talking out of your own ass. Try getting yourself a copy of the Old Testament. Then get the New Testament. Compare them - IT HAS BEEN EDITTED, IDIOT. God Adhered to slavery, rape, the murder of entire civilizations and the----
Unkehz0r 1 year ago
---stoning of children who disobey their parents. STONING, TO DEATH. NOT PUNISHMENT, ITS MURDER.
Sorry, but your religion is bullshit. Grow up, start living in reality kid. There's 100x more LOGICAL scientific evidence that is against the bible than there is (Well, there isn't any supporting the bible, since its Pseudo-science) for your bible.
Unkehz0r 1 year ago
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@Unkehz0r
"The Lord did not come into the world to condemn the world, but to save it, so that all might come to know him and live"
"For God so loved the world, that he gave his one and only son, that whosoever believes in him should not perish but have everlasting life" John 3:16
XXXMomentoMoriXXX 1 year ago
@XXXMomentoMoriXXX They have also scientifically proven that in the Old Testament, it says that Christ was crucified through the palms of his hands; which is impossible, because the nails would tear from the hands being unable to support them.
Then the New testament came along, OH WOW, SUDDENLY ITS THROUGH THE WRISTS! Yes, Occams Razor applied -- Because your church thought "OH SHIT!!!" And decided to edit it before your religion was outright discovered for what it really is: Bullshit.
Unkehz0r 1 year ago
@Unkehz0r idiot, if the Bible has been proven true, where is all this so-called "proof"? as a matter of fact, science SUPPORTS the Bible. Do a bit of research before you start slamming when you have no idea what you are even talking about. grow up, and find something else to do with your time instead of slamming God, who died for your bitch-ass!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
lionfang12 1 year ago
@Unkehz0r
He is the same yesterday as he is today, I have a relationship w/ him.
And I'll tell you now, Jesus Christ is as real as it gets.
Look up Lacey Mosely's testimony.
She was an athiest also.
You think people dilusion themselves into believing there's a God?
He's a personal God, not some ancient rule-setter.
It is not a lie, my friend. I have a feeling that you will roll in your grave saying that, denying that. But he is truth. The ONLY way.
I am sorry for you :( Be praying.
XXXMomentoMoriXXX 1 year ago
@XXXMomentoMoriXXX Its called your ego-self. There is no god. And Einstein, a Jewish believer in God, questioned the idea of a Personal God rather an a God for all. So yet again, you're wrong. :) You don't even know your own faith it seems. Try searching outside of your own box for once, even Einstein questioned the existence of a God.
Unkehz0r 1 year ago
@Unkehz0r you continue to make me laugh. just because someone famous questions the existance of God, all you 14-year old kiddies think that you know everything there is to know! I have an idea, before you post another whiny comment, find real proof that the Bible is wrong. simple as that, go on now, shoo!
lionfang12 1 year ago
@lionfang12 Idiot. Killing a person is the same as murdering a person. We're bred from the same Genome that started with a Black Human Female hundreds of thousands of years ago. Do your research.
In your bible, it states that if a Child disobeys his/her parents, they must be stoned to death. You fucking idiot, how blind can you be?
In the Old Testament, God vengefully killed just about anyone who didn't believe in him. Yes, an All loving god condones to murder and violent revenge. Nice
Unkehz0r 1 year ago
@Unkehz0r
"We're bred from the same Genome that started with a Black Human Female hundreds of thousands of years ago."
WHAT THE HECK?
XXXMomentoMoriXXX 1 year ago
@XXXMomentoMoriXXX Yup. Read up on that. The first human being was a black female.
Unkehz0r 1 year ago
@lionfang12
You call us narrowminded and that we bash others' beliefs, yet what are you doing?
Nobody is forcing you to believe in God, clearly you've rejected him.
Now quit running your mouth and bashing everyone else's beliefs, you said we christians do that, but you're not much better.
Besides the point, we have differing beliefs, big whoop, everyone's too stubborn or strongly felt about their own, so just drop it.
I believe in the Bible and Jesus Christ.
XXXMomentoMoriXXX 1 year ago 2
@XXXMomentoMoriXXX If your god was perfection then there would be no need to edit the bible :) Go figure. Read the Old Testament and compare it to the new. The Stoning of Children cannot be justified, nor can murdering a man (Which "God" "himself" did) for refusing to commit incest.
Unkehz0r 1 year ago
@Unkehz0r Honestly have you read the passages.... You need to learn before you teach so i would recommend taking another look and actually seeing what it means. Before trying to lecture someone on it. (and the Bible has not been edited Look at the scrolls they found of the bible and what's written honestly)
commenteh 1 year ago
@Unkehz0r
Btw, I don't lack self-responsibiliy, people tell me I have too much of it actually for a person my age, but beside the point.
Isn't funny, how you can accept Buddhism, and whatever other"path" but not Christianity.
Though, as I said before. Its a relationship, not religion.
You can't earn your way to Heaven.
Jesus said, "I am the way, the truth, and the life, you cannot come to the Father but by me".
My prayers to you.
XXXMomentoMoriXXX 1 year ago
@XXXMomentoMoriXXX No. Of course not. It's a relationship with your ego-self and your imaginary friend (Aka machinations of your brain). You base the "truth" off of a book that was written AFTER the events, it didn't predict, nor has it predicted anything -accurately-. It has been editted time and time again over the thousands of years it has existed. You christians never accept this possibility: That it was written by smart, power-hungry men who knew how to sway the masses and --
Unkehz0r 1 year ago
-- knew how to play on their fears, likes and dislikes.
There is no heaven. There is the conception we like to believe in which we call "Heaven". That is why, when an Atheist experiences NDE, most atheists have reported to have seen nothing but were asleep the whole time. Then you have Buddhists, who experienced out of body experiences through consciousness alone. Then you have you christians, who saw a bright white light etc (And other stories by your kind that are exaggerated by far to--
Unkehz0r 1 year ago
--Suit your ego and displeasing life. We are creatures of fantasy, we like to fantasize what we don't/haven't had. And the brain complies with this imagination quite constantly, actually. Do your research.
Tell me why it is with NDE? Because, simply.. you think, and it becomes you. Thus, God is imaginary. Your Jesus is imaginary, the satan you believe in is Imaginary. IT'S IMAGINATION.
Unkehz0r 1 year ago
@Unkehz0r 40 power hungry men with no education(besides in Biblical principles)?
Most of them were some of the most humble people Jesus found.
Also,why do you accept Buddhists,but not Christians? Why are Christians pretty much the only ones to get all this crap? I never see any Buddhists or Muslims be criticized or shunned. Why do atheists only attack Christianity? I really don't see Christians forcing ANYONE to believe in God,only atheists attacking Christians and
Assasin1025 1 year ago
@Assasin1025 Just like people today who have no education but make up for it by fantasizing and telling it to gullible people like yourself. And because you force it down our throats, and proclaim christianity is the only truth - which is bullshit, your god adheres to slavery and incest :) Get the fuck out.
Unkehz0r 1 year ago
@Assasin1025 Because, also, Buddhists have never slaughtered thousands of innocents for incredibly stupid reasons. Muslims have actually had decent leaders, unlike Christianity, such as Saladin. Why do you think it was considered in History that King Henry the Eigth was doing England/The world a favor by banning the Church?
Buddhists are some of the most peaceful beings on Earth - most don't believe in a God, they believe in Consciousness itself.
Unkehz0r 1 year ago
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@Unkehz0r Go burn in hell..
Dark94Y 1 year ago
@Unkehz0r i truly feel very sorry for you. obviously you've never spent more than 3 seconds in a history class and obviously you are just saying random arguments you can think up because if if you are against God and Christ why would you have read the Old Testament and the New Testament.
YourLittleVampireBoy 1 year ago
@YourLittleVampireBoy I. Fucking. Lold. Are you an idiot?
Read the Old testament, then the new testament. Job done, I win little boy! In the Old Testament, God killed a man who refusing to have sex with his own sister. :) He adhered to Slavery, QUITE BLATANTLY.
Sorry, but I did alot of history, try coming up with a better argument, welcome to the block list.
Unkehz0r 1 year ago
@Unkehz0r , do a bit of thinking, and get your head out of your butthole. if you don't have anything better than that weak argument, this is gonna b easy! God says "do not murder", NOT "do not kill." there is a difference. also, i'm not gonna try to understand how God operates, cuz my head would explode. idk where that is in the Bible, but if God randomly killed a guy because he wouldn't perform incest, ill eat my boxers.
lionfang12 1 year ago
@lionfang12 Read the old Testament. Case proven. Don't skim read it, dont be a selective biased dick like most of you religious fanatics are, READ IT ALL.
Unkehz0r 1 year ago
@Unkehz0r Buddhists are a bunch of meditating hippies that think "it's all good man, just ignore everything around me......" also, ever heard of something called "judgement"? thousands of people WERE INDEED killed, but try pulling your hating head out of you butthole for a second and ask yourself why they were killed. in the city of Nineva, there was evil at every freakin turn, yet God spared them because they repented. other cities like Sodom and Gomora payed the price for not repenting.
lionfang12 1 year ago
@lionfang12 Buddhists are as a matter of fact the most peaceful people on earth. More so than ANY Christian has ever been (Since Jesus -DID NOT- exist). They've been beaten, constantly face oppression.. yet they have NEVER Spoken out or raised a finger. Sorry, but they put your beliefs to shame. Oh? And how many has "God" murdered compared to saved?
He wiped out the entire earth with a flood because they were TRICKED, and it WASNT their fault. They were tricked into mating with the "fallen".
Unkehz0r 1 year ago
@Unkehz0r
They chose sin.
Because we serve a holy God, perfection, God cannot accept sin.
They recieved time to repent, but did not.
and were punished. Our God is not only a God of Love but also a God of Justice.
XXXMomentoMoriXXX 1 year ago
@XXXMomentoMoriXXX Sin is a concept. IT does not exist, yet it does as a concept. It amounts little to nothing. As is the concept of your God.
Unkehz0r 1 year ago
@Unkehz0r Okay then killing people in your mind is fine if i believe it is Dude you really need to think before you speak or it makes you look like an idiot honestly)
commenteh 1 year ago
@Unkehz0r i'm sorry you hate god, i dont know what he did to make you act like this, but it gets better. Just belive in him or you will be thrown it hell for ever when you die.
saf7001 1 year ago
@saf7001 Saying things like that is going to make him hate God even more. You need to tell people about God's love and mercy and if they choose not to accept Him after you do that, that is their choice, but don't bash non-believers with the turn-or-burn principle. It just makes God sound like an uncaring, un-appealing being. I'm a Christian and I still got that impression.
Caleb7557 1 year ago
@Caleb7557 so did i
27anberlinfan 1 year ago
@Caleb7557 As much as i agree, I bring up the point that if we give em a sugar-coated message then we will get em thinkin they're in candyland(no pun intended_
sweetjonathan14 1 year ago
@sweetjonathan14 Heaven is like candy. :)
Caleb7557 1 year ago
@Caleb7557 Turn-or-burn principle... lol im ganna have to use that at church sometime, thats a good description of what not to do, i like that man good job
TannerDaPreecher 1 year ago
So how do you explain your faulty logic and reasoning? Oh yeah, "GOD WILLS IT!" thats how. He's imaginary, yet he's a "GET OUT OF JAIL FOR FREE" Card, huh? In reality, buddy, if you did anything like that.. you'd end up in a mental institution and you would never see the outside world again.
The Shroud of Jesus, for example.. has been factually proven to be false. They discovered, yes.. and one of the researchers was CHRISTIAN!! that the Shroud was made by Leonardo Da Vinci - a man who----
Unkehz0r 1 year ago
--Who was against Christianity, and one of the greatest minds in history. If Christianty wasn't around and people listened to Da Vinci, we'd have had PLANES, YES.. PLANES, in the 17th to 18th's centuries LONG before we even had JETS! Do your research on Da Vinci, he did the anatomy of the Human Body perfectly, and he was exiled from his homeland because of it. He created the worlds first Prosthetic heart piece before we even started thinking of them. He created the first flying machine---
Unkehz0r 1 year ago
@Unkehz0r show me proof that anything in the bible was proven wrong? you will not be able to. all you will find is evolution wich you have to have faith to believe making you a hyhpocrite for bashing religion in generall because you are religious as well
TannerDaPreecher 1 year ago
---Yet, because of your brainwashing, fairytale belief, we've been held back for more than 500 years and more in Technology. We'd have FOUND a cure for cancer by now, if it weren't for your religion, one of the worst, and more.
Unkehz0r 1 year ago
@Unkehz0r how do you figure this? last i checked im all for cancer research. where is the proof of this?
TannerDaPreecher 1 year ago
@lionfang12 Fact - an All Loving God would treat everyone as equal and not judge them at all, because whatever we would do on the earth in the end wouldn't even comprehend to the "immaterial"/"Spirit" realm.
Take YOUR zealous head out of your ass, and grow up. It's the 21st Century. Your religion is dying, but infact it shouldn't have even existed.
Unkehz0r 1 year ago
@Unkehz0r its because of our god your even here, i really dont want you to be left behind.
saf7001 1 year ago
@saf7001 You're quite right.
Unkehz0r 1 year ago
@Unkehz0r have your parents ever spanked or grounded you? well its cause they love you they dont want to do it, but you disobeyed them and you had to be punished. God cant lie, all of satans followers will be casted into hell if he sent us all to heaven that would make him a lier and yes religion is dying and it should, but my faith in Jesus Christ is not and will not die. but you are entitled to your own belief and i respect that. i personally dont see a reason for arguing and wasting our lives
TannerDaPreecher 1 year ago
@Unkehz0r --I don't understand why we HAVE to believe all these things atheists want us to believe,but we can't even say "God" without getting the "ignorance" stamp placed on us. Seems like the Bible predicted it very well.
Assasin1025 1 year ago
@Assasin1025 Again, you call me an atheist. Failtard. The bible did not predict. It is common sense people wont agree with your imaginary friends "religion", anyone would easily say that. It is post-prediction, which is also pseudo-knowledge, they didn't predict, they were events written AFTER said things happened. Jesus never existed, he's a story. A fairytale.
Unkehz0r 1 year ago
@XXXMomentoMoriXXX The truth is the Christian God was created to explain a world they didn't even understand. Such as one of the very first "Gods", Enki, was created for - to explain the things they did not understand, which we understand more so today with science, hence why Religion is no longer important (Aside from spiritual paths like Buddhism.)
Unkehz0r 1 year ago
@Unkehz0r *cough*Evolution*cough*
So,if Christianity was made just to explain things,who wrote the Bible? 40+ authors with the same idea even though they lived in entirely different places and/or times? Read the Bible for once and meditate on it.
Assasin1025 1 year ago
@Assasin1025 40+ authors who happened to be in on the same thing. Buddy, I can come up with many conspiracy's too! It's so easy to write up a fantasy make-believe story of a God in the story that doesn't even exist!
I read the bible one too many times. When you grow up, and realize its full of bollocks, you pretty much realize how much on an idiot you were for even believing it.
Actually, no Science doesn't turn down spirituality. It turns down PSEUDO-SCIENCE, much like all the 2012--
Unkehz0r 1 year ago
conspiring loonicists like you.
And actually, the theory of the big bang and the theory of evolution have alot more evidence to back them up than your imaginary "friend" does ;)
DOn't believe me? Read up on the Large Hadron Collider. It is designed to replicate the Big Bang. Sorry, but you're really not doing well to back up your religion if you start calling me ignorant and intolerable :) You've gone against it. Doesn't "God" hate your kind?
Unkehz0r 1 year ago
@Unkehz0r .....Your living proof. Living proof that God has NO choice but to destroy the Earth a SECOND time.
1.40 people will NEVER agree on the same things in exactly the same way,especially when they were in different times!
2.When you grow up,don't study the Bible,and let go of your faith,you become what you are today.
3.Science doesn't turn down religion,scientists,atheists,and people like you DO turn down religion as seen in all of your posts here.
I can't believe there are others like you
Assasin1025 1 year ago
@Assasin1025 God doesn't exist. He wont, and cannot destroy the earth.. because he doesn't exist. How many times have your kind predicted the end of the earht? Lol, DOZENS, and it -NEVER- happened. Jesus christ predicted he'd return in a 1000 years. Oh look, 1000 years later.. He's not here, we're thousands of years past the sale-by date. Where is he? :) Oh yeah, he doesn't exist.
No actually, I grew up and became RESPONSIBLE for myself, not some imaginary friend. Idiots like you breed--
Unkehz0r 1 year ago
@Unkehz0r yea, well, see, he didn't say he'd come in 1,000 years: he said when he did come he'd reign on Earth for 1,000 years before the devil was released, then he's gonna throw him in the pit of fire forever...sorry, dude, you just got it wrong, and, i know you're not gonna like this, but, i'll be praying for you
whatthemassivedeuce 1 year ago
@whatthemassivedeuce I'm about your attitude and I'm glad you're praying for Him,hopefully he'll see that God is there for him everywhere at every time.
Assasin1025 1 year ago
@Assasin1025 And how many times has a "christian" prayed for me? It has made me laugh plenty, nothing happens. My day goes to the same as it usually does; a healthy income and a good batch of friends in the world, WHO AREN'T CHRISTIAN. :)
Unkehz0r 1 year ago
@whatthemassivedeuce Actually, I read ;) He did say he'd "Rule for a thousand years", but he indicated he would return also in the same time. Funnily enough, it never happened.
Unkehz0r 1 year ago
@Unkehz0r I've face palmed SO many times reading your crap,I should have a concussion by now.
1.He didn't say he would come in 1000 years,go actually READ the Bible,not skim through it.
2.We predicted Earth's end ONCE,and it still hasn't happened because Jesus hasn't returned.
3.Responsibility =/= Religion/Faith
Assasin1025 1 year ago
@Assasin1025 Actually, christians have predicted the earths end once every few years. Idiot much? They're doing it again now in 2012. They did it in 2000. They did it a hundred years ago. They did it thousands of years ago. They still do it now. Wow, where's the apocalypse? I don't see any!
And you just said because you're religious you don't have to be responsible. EXACTLY, you put it on all "GOD WILLS IT!" or "SATAN MADE ME DO IT!"
Unkehz0r 1 year ago
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videotimeify 1 year ago
@Assasin1025 Once again, I said i've read hte bible way too many times to even give a fuck about what it says anymore. Its all bullshit.
1) You wouldn't EDIT your fucking bible if Jesus or God were already perfect.
2) God slaughtered millions, for example.. He killed a guy for refusing to commit INCEST! YES, INCEST, WITH HIS OWN SISTER. What a stupid fucking reason, don't believe me? ITS IN THE OLD TESTAMENT.
3) He enforces Slavery in the old Testament too. Wow, such a benevolent being!
Unkehz0r 1 year ago
@Assasin1025 The real reason why the testament was editted: You christians and catholics would lose power if you stuck wiht your old, horribly flawed and genocidal "God" in the old testament quite quickly ;)
You're losing power today. Simply because Science is more logical than Christianity ever was.
Unkehz0r 1 year ago
@Assasin1025 --Ignorance and stupidity. Please, get out of your fairytale existence, and absorb reality.
Unkehz0r 1 year ago
@Unkehz0r ......you fail to realize you just described yourself...I'd call that hypocrisy.
Assasin1025 1 year ago
@Assasin1025 You fail to think. Try again. ;) Care to step out of your own box for once? Or are you scared your imaginary friend wont be able to be used as an excuse anymore?
Unkehz0r 1 year ago
@Assasin1025 Nothing can exist unless your "GOD" "Created" it, therefor he -HAD- to create sin.
Be more of a selective dick as usual, you just failed hard in your own faith ;).
Unkehz0r 1 year ago
@Unkehz0r Only of "sin" is a concrete entity. God didn't have to create a vacuum, since God creating anything disqualifies it from being a vacuum.
I think it's funny that you tell people here to read their Bibles, since you haven't read it yourself.
shamgar001 1 year ago
@shamgar001 Funny - since i've said it 5 times in a row now that I have been a christian before, and a Catholic, and i've read that ridiculous bible more times than I can count. Please, go read their bible, since you haven't yourself. ;)
Unkehz0r 1 year ago
@Unkehz0r Oh,the irony. YOU should read it.
Assasin1025 1 year ago
@Assasin1025 IT even states in your bible he created everything. WHy try to make things up and rationalize the bullshit that it is?
Unkehz0r 1 year ago
@Unkehz0r Wow,you must live such a sad life,listening to christian music and then bashing their religion.
But that's aside from the point.
Sin isn't something "material",it's just something that separates us from God.
Sin started with Lucifer's betrayal,and he spread it to Adam and Eve.
Assasin1025 1 year ago
@Assasin1025 Changing subject are we? We've gone from heaven and hell, and now to the idea of Sin not being or being material. Here's something for you, we're not spiritual, we can't experience the spiritual because all of our senses are MATERIAL. If we experience something "spiritual", then it must take form in a material sense. Henceforth, everything you're saying is bollocks. It states clearly in your bible that God created everything. That means he made sin, that means he made lucifer rebel.
Unkehz0r 1 year ago