A Secret Method For Getting Free Power for Your House

[beernchickens]

soooooooo bullshit I have 1400 sf home and average electric usage to my area my estimate was 72000$ and i install

[axt947]

Barf, Faux news. 

[YiuTeub]

yay 25k up front

[nhralph]

I have some solar panels and it helps. BUT, it is far from being free power.

[antoniotitus]

1 out of 1 million people can actually afford solar panels or the two story house.

realistic.

[67tr876]

@antoniotitus I think you're worng. I own a two story house and I can afford solar panels and am not rich

[saints360row]

You know what I love about most news people? - They don't regret what they say.

[vtxphantom]

How much did the whole solar system cost? Panels, batteries, regulators, etc. Just curious

[DJsonnyANTWERPEN]

@vtxphantom 18panels=18000e ...

[ADULTEDUCATION4U]

how is this secret.

[sawdustjohnpa]

hey, this chic is on the weather channel now. 

[eudaemonian]

dont forget now, its a "secret" method so dont go around tellin ppl bout the solar thingy's, cuzz its a secret and all, u know  |:

[punchnicekids]

I am tired of paying high power bills so I am going to go buy $30,000 worth of solar panels, that will show the power companies.

[Greenlanegardens]

@punchnicekids Hi , Ive been in solar for years and for a 1500 sqare feet home you need about 120 100 watt

panels

[luccaskunk]

100% solar? With a house that size and those dinky panels? I don't buy it. Maybe 100% in the summer in the day time when the AC isn't running, the TV's off, and the oven's not in use.

[ozzirt]

@luccaskunk I dunno where you live, but I have 18 panels, and link tied inverters, and I make a net profit off my panels to the order of about $2200 a year from the excess I sell to the grid. At the current rate, it will take me 8 years to pay off and then I will not only have free power , but I will be making money.

[luccaskunk]

@ozzirt Your house does not have the same population density or energy requirements of an entire metropolis. You're not running hundreds of thousands of street lights every hour of the night, tens of thousands of traffic lights, dozens of sky scrapers, subway stations, light rails, lighting up large federal buildings, and a ton of other things... What's more, your solar panels are much closer to the things which use them. A lot of power is lost in transmission through resistance.

[ozzirt]

@luccaskunk My house is part of an entire nationwide grid, and has no concerns as small as a town, or even a metropolis,... as if that mattered. I sell nearly twice as much power to the grid as I use, and that power I sell is probably used in my own town, thereby saving the transmission of power from powerstations hundreds of miles away.

You have your reasoning all "arse a peak"

[luccaskunk]

@ozzirt no, my reasoning is sound, you're just rebutting against what I've said with your personal experience which doesn't apply precisely because, as you put it, your "house is part of an entire nationwide grid, and has no concerns as small as a town, or even a metropolis,... as if that mattered"

What i've said about solar panels not being a suitable replacement for nuclear power plants is talking about the power output of solar panels vs the power consumption of a major metropolis.

[ozzirt]

@luccaskunk Your reasoning is anything but "reasoning"

For a start, where does it mention Nuclear power plants? They are the most expensive form of generation at the moment anyway, once all costs including decommissioning and ongoing costs of storage and maintenance for the spent radionucleides are taken into account.

Tell me how you work out that for the cost of eight years or less, worth of power at today's values, a nuclear plant will give you free power for the next 30 years and beyond.

[luccaskunk]

@ozzirt It doesn't, someone else was talking about the amount of power the sun hits the earth with and "that's why you should tell them to [something I don't want to repeat] themselves when they want to build a new nuclear power plant"

[luccaskunk]

@ozzirt All I was saying is that there's a "new" (really it's 50 years old but who's counting?) type of nuclear plant called a "thorium reactor" that's SO much cleaner and safer than the traditional uranium reactors. Also I was saying that the number of panels. I was also telling the person that the number of solar panels needed to power Los Angeles at this time, due to the inefficiency of solar panels (as in the sun hits them with X power, they produce much less power), would blanket the Mojave

[ozzirt]

@luccaskunk You can wriggle and squirm all you like. My power was costing me 86c/kWhr. or about$12-1300 per year. Power costs have just increased by a flat rate of 26% and will rise more in the foreseeable future.

My system will pay for itself in 8 years AT THE OLD RATE,... less, as power costs rise. My power will then be free, plus I will then receive payment from the supplier for my excess. No other scheme will do that, Coal, nuclear or hydro, you will keep paying and paying as costs rise.

[luccaskunk]

@ozzirt My apologises, I thought this was a different line of comments where someone was talking about nuclear power plants vs solar plants. They were speaking as if solar panels have the kind of energy density required to replace solar power and they don't. So I apologise for the confusion.

Also, as for my original comment. I've since done some research. It seems that solar panels have gotten more efficient since my experience with them, which was "too expensive, not enough power".

[ozzirt]

@luccaskunk I was very hesitant myself, until the govrernment offered a huge 50% rebate on the purchase costs. Since I have had my system fitted, even WITHOUT the rebate I will have my system paid off in 8 years, probably less.

My biggest worry was, what happens in a hail storm? It appears that the panels are covered with acrylic that will withstand hail up to 25mm in diameter at 90deg impact. Glancing impact much more. We have never seen hail in over a 130 years, larger than 8-12mm.

[luccaskunk]

@ozzirt Wriggle and squirm? I conceded that my original comment was wrong and tried to explain to you that the stuff about nuclear plants was from another video I commented on FAR more recently than the comment you initially responded to so I got confused. And you also seem to have it in your head that I'm talking about you and your house. I'm not. Solar power is, at this time, wholly inadequate for the needs of a city. I acknowledge that it's adequate for your needs. STFU already.

[luccaskunk]

@ozzirt I mean seriously, if you look at my first response to you, I said "your results are typical of a single house". This is because I have looked into the subject since my doubtful comment and found information that is contrary to my original comment. And somehow being HONEST about this and actually LEARNING and ADMITTING a mistake is "wriggling and squirming"? You're a real asshole you know that?

[ozzirt]

@luccaskunk You posted two separate posts and I missed the second of them so you can take it or leave it, the facts remain the same. Your "apology was made after I posted my "wriggle and squirm" post.

Bye bye,...

[luccaskunk]

@ozzirt Short version is, your results are typical of a single house, but a city has far more things to spend its power on than central heat/air, a few fluorescent bulbs, a television, and a computer or two.

[specialks1953]

Government subsidies cost tax payers. I do not want to pay my own bills along with paying for someone else to take a step that is not cost efficient. I am not worried about climate change because climate change is happening on other planets that we are not causing. Manmade climate change is not real. Earth's climate has been changing for billions of years & man didn't cause it. This leach found a way for someone else to cover their cost of living, in the name of conservation. This is bullshit !

[thumper88888]

why did ecopowerrules pick the word 'secret' for the title? that's fucked up.

[YTSparty]

Uh, when was this made, 1950? Have they been living in a cave? They got excited about a few solar panels? YIKES!

[thinkyourright]

SECRET!!! WHAT SECRET??? WAIT A MINUTE. ITS FOX NEWS!!! YOU A HOLES

[thinkyourright]

SECRET!!! WHAT SECRET??? YOU A HOLES

[RagstoRich]

wow a secret method! solar power... who would of thought :)

[pointer7pl]

short



[MrHobiecat]

+ maybe the fridge, when the sun is out.

[MrHobiecat]

100% solar powered house, in Denver? I seriously doubt it. 1st: they MUST have gas heat, hot water, stove, dryer, because those panels are not big enough for all those functions. 2nd: when its cloudy for days any battery bank will eventually run down, and you have to switch to the grid. At best those panels on the roof are powering florescent lamps, the TV, and small plug-in electronic devices.

[MrAwsome514]

You know that solar panel system would have been much cheaper if they had used rejected solar cells. See the solar cell manufacturers all have a certain standard by which they manufacture thier product. Any chipped or slightly damaged cells are rejected however they are still functional. Some of these manufacturers sell these slightly damaged solar cells in bulk at an amazing discount.

[duaneafields]

It's just Mis-Reported....No Secret....IT"S JUST FOX NEWS PEOPLE

[48stevemr]

..By the time those salar panels have paid for themselves, the outside heat from the sun will would have probably melted the world anyway!

[kenfo0]

"Secret"? Hardly."Free"?You must be out of your mind.You are being brainwashed with lies like this. A proper education yields a mind which can ask "who, what, where, when, why" and other pertinent questions. That education is SORELY lacking today. "Free"? TENS OF THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS. Why didn't they tell you the cost? "60% of the cost is covered by...": by your neigbor's tax dollars. Since when does the govt have the right to take my money to heat YOUR house (it doesn't, but do it neway)?

[chrispyweezil]

neat

[inkey2]

I am a noob about this stuff....whats the deal.....do these solar panels charge a stack of batteries in the basement or something?

[pureevilfnord]

Hmmm...neither secret or free.

[bleakspeaks69]

It must have been a slow day at the news bureau if this was made into a segment.

[UBERKron]

the machinery isnt free but you get good output for 40 years or so. batteries can last ten years if you treat them well. its not a secret though, well only if you dont tell anyone.

[erasmusso]

How much do solar panel cost?

[CONCUSSION187]

that was a reality in the 80's but big wig oil tycoons were making to much big money

[CONCUSSION187]

the sun ?? thats the secret?

[911truthseekers]

hydrogen is the way, not solar!

[semimech]

lol i wander wat she does on rainy sunless days or at night time

[steviebeat]

ehh? you think solar power is a secret???

[SirTragain]

I find it hard to believe that those few panels are powering the entire house.

[ncbookz]

18 panels i counted them 150 watt each maybe x 18 = 2700 watt hours

[Thissiteisapain]

Secret?

[knowledgemonger]

The reporters body must be blocking the view of the extension cord they plugged into the neighbors outside plug. That would be the secret way to get free power.

[LAFAcomedy]

@knowledgemonger Right because solar power doesnt work or anything. I hope you were making a joke and that you werent actually serious in thinking solar power doesnt work.

[knowledgemonger]

@LAFAcomedy Solar power is not a "secret" The title is " A Secret Method For Getting Free Power for Your House"

[LAFAcomedy]

@knowledgemonger Oh... my bad. I didnt know thats what you meant by it.

[knowledgemonger]

@LAFAcomedy No prob. The comment could be misunderstood.

I dislike news reports using misleading titles or teaser lines to get you to watch them. Many people will read the title only and not see the report. The result is that they may think that there is some secret method. This adds to the level of confusion on the subject and makes fuel for conspiracy theories. The energy problem is an important issue the added FUD doesn't help.

[damianson]

@knowledgemonger  investment pays for itself overtime if your a homeowner. own a house longer than 7years, im already not paying any power bills. and it ups your resale value alot.

[knowledgemonger]

@damianson The title contains the word "secret". There is no secret method being talked about. That solar panels work is no secret. This is just an example fo a misleading title being used to get people to watch a video that shows them nothing new.

[kenfo0]

@damianson Nonsense!The only reason this has a "7 yr payback" is because others' tax dollars paid for your heat.While you say "hooray for me!", it really is no different than me mugging you in the street then claiming "I get food for FREE!". This model CANNOT WORK en masse, as in very short order, there won't be enough tax dollars to support the cost. These are all FACTS. NOWHERE in the US Constitution does the Fed govt have the right to take my money to give to you. You call this 'freedom'.

[krystalmagic]

60% subsidy!!!? Wonder how that works.

[BackwardProduction]

It is done through tax incentives that are passed in an effort to try and get people to switch to green power. If there were no incentives it would be too expensive for most people to consider getting.

[phantomcharger]

@krystalmagic

You helped pay for them, lol

[havokwreaked]

ez3usx2, you make no sense. solar and wind energy is the future. To the contrary of your laughable thought, the oil companies lobby congress to stop these methods from coming into widespread use. Why? BECAUSE! Big oil's nickname was always big greed, wasn't it?

[xadam2dudex]

oh I thought maybe they were gonna show people how to hookup ur home to the neighbor's powerline without getting caught

[littlelogcabins]

@xadam2dudex lol !!!!! exacty what i thought!

[ez3usx2]

solar and wind energy are nothing but red herrings and a good waste of research money.those people who run the oil companies know this.their plan is to keep us broke and enslaved forever.too bad the oil companies fund most universities in that way they control our knowledge.oil companies and bankers want to keep everyone poor.we could have cheap machines in our homes and cars to power them and it would be clean power.that would ruin the bankers and oil companies tho.

[knowledgemonger]

You must work for the oil companies if you are trying to push people away from solar and wind energy. They are the technologies that are the most threat to the oil companies. People can build their own power systems if they have wind or sunshine. You don't have to go to an "oil field". As a result, it is what the oil companies fear the most.

[knowledgemonger]

Solar hot water systems that are well designed pay off in only a few years or less.

Solar electric pay off in about 5 to 25 years depending on what you pay for electricity. You also need to be in a place that lets you sell the power back to the power company. Batteries add to the cost.

[knowledgemonger]

The title said "secret". This must be the worst kept secret in the entire universe. I guess Fox news has just discovered that solar power exists. What do we expect next a breaking story about horseless carriages?

[allspirits111]

Horseless carriages? That's crazy. They just made the horses invisible lol, all cars...er... I mean carriages... still have invisible horses pulling them. Pigs, also, do fly. They are just too shy to do it in front of us, and their wings are ALSO invisible. LMAO.

[therealfettypet]

Just a news report. no substance, a bunch of smiling monkeys with NO integrity, NO knowledge. we need 10,000,000 solar panels to save us from big energy/oil.

[allspirits111]

Smiling monkeys, thats awesome. We live in a circus. The only difference, is that the "poo" they fling is metaphorical.

[freetickeys]

no substance

[sjh7132]

For a news report, that was kind of poor. How much power? How much cost? (or if they don't want to say those numbers at least say the number of years to pay the system off.)

[Aquar1uZ]

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