McIntosh, Accuphase, KRELL and more High End Audio

[trialsted]

You shouldn't be allowed a nice hi-fi if you are going to play film soundtracks on it

[KatiushaVN4]

Avalon speakers are the best

[topluckmaster]

Geile Sachen Hammer aber teuer leider :))

[acesxhi]

i was never crazy about krell.

[greatwhitenorth112]

my computer speakers are playing this in shame

[little123456788]

Whats the name of this epic music?

[bluesman979]

@Chally70

CYPMs and then take a little of your own advice ....

"I SUGGEST THAT YOU READ MY INITIAL COMMENT WITHOUT YOUR EGO OR OBJECTIVE PERCEPTION."

Capice ?

HTH

[bluesman979]

@Chally70 Just noticed, you answered your own question and thereby demonstrated (for all to see) your own stupidity

"My speakers cost over 20 grand you think they are Domestic? "

Yes I do think they are domestic, they are in a domicile and therefore by definition domestic (the price doesn't come into it)

"This is about home listening ."

***Exactly*** ...

*HOME* listening = in the *DOMESTIC* environment, and therefore it IS domestic equipment ;-)

Capice ?

:-D

[bluesman979]

@Chally70 I suggest you go re-read what I've posted and then try to take it on board ;-)

"My speakers cost over 20 grand ..." <-That doesnt make them ACCURATE (just expensive)

If they are sold for home use, they are *by definition* domestic (as opposed to studio monitors -which have a flat response) -if you can't understand the difference, its hardly MY fault is it ?

As I said a pair of Genlecs would BE MORE ACCURATE domestic speakers shape the EQ and thereby colour the sound

-HTH

[bluesman979]

@Chally70

A simple question about accuracy (not subjective judgement) in audio ...

How can a 44.1Khz 16bit audio file (as found on CDDA) possibly be *more* accurate than a 192Khz 24 bit audio file (as used in a studio) ?

Or domestic hifi speakers be more accurate than studio reference monitors ?

FYI I have worked in the music industry since the 1970s (pre digital), and I have NEVER seen a studio that uses domestic hi-fi equipment as its main monitoring facility

HTH ;-)

[bluesman979]

@Chally70, You obviously haven't let the facts get in the way if what you wanted to say, it doesn't matter how many times you say it, its still not true

If what you were saying *were* true, recording studios would use domestic speakers instead of main, mid and near-field monitors

Flat response is a *major* factor in studio monitors, yet you seem to be suggesting that shaping the EQ (as domestic speakers do) is somehow more accurate than a flat response -an obvious contradiction in terms

[piano25]

@bluesman979 Recording studios use monitors not only because they are flat and perfect. Most of the studios i know use monitors because they give a better representation of a consumer system (such as TV, Radio, etc - wich hifi isnt compromised with). Lots of the hifi speakers are even flatter than monitors. I use both at the studio and love them. Good recordings and mixes can be accomplished with both. It all depends on the acoustics of the room and capacity of the engineer`s brain/ear.

[bluesman979]

@piano25

"Recording studios use ... "

Having been in the industry since the 70s I think I know a little of studios thanks ;-)

I have not seen mastering studios use NS10s to do their work, and you'd never find a pair of BB5 XBD's in voice-over studio, so I'd suggest the equipment in a studio is entirely appropriate to its purpose (if it isn't its useless)

FYI PMC make domestic speakers as well as studio monitors, now why would they make *both* if there were no difference ? ;-)

HTH

[bluesman979]

@piano25

"Most of the studios i know use monitors because they give a better representation of a consumer system "

So you are saying that studios use monitors to "Impersonate" hifi systems ?

LOL

Studios use monitors because they give an *accurate representation* of the signal (which with a good engineer/producer should give a mix that translates well )

Most people would find studio monitors sound too harsh and very tiring on the ears compared to hifi speakers (its an EQ thing) ;-) 

[bluesman979]

@Chally70

I have worked in MANY recording studios and none of them monitor on domestic hi-fi speakers (no matter how "audiophile" they may be ;-) )

It does seem that audiophiles aren't that "into" accuracy in what they listen to

For many people it seems to be more about the kit than the sound quality, how many would recognise their own equipment in a double blind test against a set of mid-field reference monitors (for instance) ? ;-)

Peace ...

[piano25]

@bluesman979 domestic hi fi? Are Dynaudio domestic speakers or studio ones? So iv i have a top studio at home can i call my shitty NS10s domestic monitors? Bulshit!

[bluesman979]

@piano25

You can shout "bullshit" as loud as you like but it's not very flattering to you

Can you say "frequency response" ?

In GENERAL domestic speakers have a shaped EQ & studio monitors have flat response

"Shitty NS 10" near-fields are popular in the music industry as "grot boxes", if you can get a mix to sound good on them it should translate fairly well, BUT having said that they don't have any bottom end to speak of so it's best to use mid-fields or mains to check the mix

-HTH

[bluesman979]

@piano25

"domestic hi fi? Are Dynaudio domestic speakers or studio ones? So iv i have a top studio at home can i call my shitty NS10s domestic monitors? Bulshit!" (sic)

FYI NS10s are made by Yamaha *not* Dynaudio they were originally designed in the 70s as domestic hifi speakers, they were redisigned for use as a near-field studio monitors -the NS10M with new cross-overs and tweeters to fix the top end problems, cabinets toughened and realligned for horizontal use (usually on meter bridge)

[piano25]

@bluesman979 i know NS10s are Yamaha. i wanted to give a second example along with Dynaudio`s.

[bluesman979]

@piano25

Dynaudio make professional monitors AND domestic Hifi

Again, if there were no difference *why* would they make both ?

I'd suggest rather than PMC/Dynaudio (et al) having made some hideous error by manufacturing both Professional Studio Monitors and Home System (that'd be Domestic then ;-) ) equipment ranges, that in fact the problem is you had not realised they are different things for different purposes (and I am not to blame for that in any way shape or form ) ;-)

HTH ;-)

[bluesman979]

A pair of Genlecs and a PC/Mac connected to a decent soundcard (probably costing less than the cables an "audiophile" would buy ;-) ) has a wider dynamic range and offers better (more accurate) reproduction than this (domestic) equipment

That is a fact (thats why recording studios use this sort of equipment )

So ultimately its little more than a fashion statement to be buying high end audiophile kit

Isn't fashion wonderful ?

Sound quality though, is something else entirely ;-)

[chairuser4]

I'm in heaven



[brystonfan]

my parasound amps and older anthem processor and my new cerwin vega xls 215's sound awsome and it didnt cost a fortune, entry level high end is the best value for the money, skip the glamour cosmetics, you dont listen to cosmetics, thats why we have adcom, parasound,rotel,arcam,rogue, bryston,klipsh, cerwin vega, i have been in this hobby for 30yrs and started out with k-mart stuff years ago and worked my way up slowly, i have auditioned stuff that was very expensive that will blow your mind.

[brystonfan]

hey you guys, try out emotiva, they are a awsome value, awsome equipment. high end retail can get kinda crazy when it comes down to the price, common brand names like pioneer,kenwood, sherwood,sansui,sony, and so on used to make some awsome stuff in the yrs of 73-84, today alot of those companies build crap, even alot of those high end flagship ht receivers are crap, ok for movies, but music sucks, but the new class d amps r good for subs,

[brystonfan]

the comment about a 200 dollar system, that person is retarded, yes, there is some high end stuff out there today that is a joke, but anyone making statement like that must have a fat smellin wife, live in the projects, a drunkin hillbilly miserable life, you are just jealous, i have heard those speakers, and they are no joke, you probably shop for automobiles at the thrift store !!!!! hahahahahaha

[cheytab]

Hey Check my Kef Reference Speakers on YOUTUBE

[thefg71]

immagini davvero incredibili.......ne abbiamo da fare nella strada nell hi fi car.......

[tokyozee]

All of that stuff there is a complete rip off! A pair of 100$ Sony speakers sound exactly the same as a pair of 5000$ speakers shit don't matter.

[Myrandomreviews1]

@tokyozee I will challenge that comment any day. Look at my review of my theater and My Krell Lat 1's

[VIRGILIOVIEGAS]

The paradise of the Hi-End.

[TheNorwegianCookie]

i just love the B&W speakers!

[homiyar29]

excellant 

[rentatrip1]

Diametrically Opposed- video Photos of Quality Audio equipment

sort of like looking at photographs of Women...

a very cruel Joke indeed-

, Perhaps one should at least use a nice microphone to record the sound reproduction of a particular assembly of said...

[kynigh]

Well, well... I think a hi-end system can be considered a dream of mine... it doesn't need to be exotic like the one at 0:17 or those MBL products... some McIntosh or Krell would be awesome. Of course I love my Marantz, Klipsch, Energy and JBL though.

[lukaun8]

Fantastic video, man speakers are getting BIGGER and BIGGER! I have definitive Tech 7000's with 12 inch subs for both. I have set to small, never put them to Large. Wondering if I should, I have 12' inch subwoofer seperate for this. Love the back around music, sounds like the "The Dark Knight" soundtrack.

[fredrikolsson]

i realized that hifi is nonsense and sold my $ 5000 stereo. now i listen happily to my iphone, or to my stock car stereo.

[THEKINGS001]

@fredrikolsson same with me im over it!!

[tokyozee]

@fredrikolsson Yeah like seriously anyone can build an awesome sounding stereo for less then 200$ It all sounds the same.

[Myrandomreviews1]

@tokyozee totally disagree, $200 is going to sound like 200. Look at the Krell lat 1's and then we'll talk

[n2motocross]

At 1:00, that room was way too small for those Avalons.

[MikeTheGreatOne99]

There is a God, and He is to be found in any one of those Music Rooms.

Trust me...

[crazynsober2day]

very nice...makes me jealous. but i still love my klipsh and bic acoustech equipment. however, i have been bit by the bug and the upgrades will never stop

[ShitFromShinolla]

I'll take one of each please.

[gotrottin]

I was being facetious, yet I agree with you completely. I too have to have better and better, but like you have found ways to buy things second hand and make proper matches to speaker and processors that create sublime result. Down with retail, long live Craigslist!

[asianfighter62]

VIBRATION CONTROL IS THE KEY to making your system sound it's potential, that is something many HIGH END DEALERS will deny you off by SELLING FRAUDLENT EXPENSIVE INSANE CABLES. Loudspeaker design is a CHOICE, many types of technology. No such loudspeaker suits individual tastes no matter what price point. Amplifier designs are also controversial like loudspeakers. It's a matter of CHOICE and what sounds good to one's ear apart from the DEALER and showrooms.

[ShitFromShinolla]

@asianfighter62 why did you post some many comments on this video? Do you really think we care what you think?

[asianfighter62]

I wait til these guys sell their stuff at audiogon, since many of us can't afford what they have. used high end is how average folks like us can listen to what these wealthy audiophiles can afford. Most of them have an UPGRADE ITCH, so they sell their goodies low enough for some of us to be able to purchase. They also take good care of their equipment far more than your average consumer. Not even the same league.

[poloman58]

I have the system in the 4th pic. B&W and Classe' only a little older equipment. The speakers were $4,000 new. Great audio is expensive but worth it. If you love music go for it. Its like a concert in your home every day.

[asianfighter62]

@poloman58 I agree, especially if you know how to tweak your system and match components. Components is an individual taste though. Some people are into hybrid, tube, solid state amps, i like try a little of each technology. I'm glad more tubes are affordable these days and electrostat loudspeakers. I happen to collect loudspeakers that's affordable used and amps. You're absolutely right. it's like getting a chance to drive a lambhorgini or ferrari

[misterplops]

At the 2:29 time mark:

I wonder why such an expensive and well made "Clear Audio" turntable would be played without their "Outer Limit" ring?

[gotrottin]

Its incredible how much audio nuts will pay for that crap. I bet some of those speakers sell for over a thousand dollars each!

[bahamabrz]

A thousand dollars each? You can probably buy one thousand dollar speakers at any consumer electronics store. lol Some of the systems you see here cost more than your house!

[gotrottin]

I will choose the house, what will you choose?

[asianfighter62]

@gotrottin you can CHOOSE the house and much LOWER priced high end systems from OTHER MANUFACTURERS for the PRICE of these INSANE and I consider FRAUDULENT prices of these MANUFACTURERS. For example, you can buy a used CARVER or SUNFIRE amp over the KRELL for $ 300-500 that sounds as good as the krell or better, loudspeakers from MAGNEPAN, KLIPSCH, vintage INFINITY RS series, POLK SDA, OHM acoustics or used ACOUSTATS for electrostats or ALTEC LANSING/JBL for under $3000 and still buy a HOUSE!

[asianfighter62]

@bahamabrz I agree for the most part, but there are legitimate high end manufacturers who do not overbloat their prices or use MARKETING propoganda like BOSE which is really not high end made of cheap materials. There's UPS and DOWNS in the high end world. there are some systems that are worth it that are not INSANE in prices. I agree that you can buy lots of equipment that are decent for the price of say ONE pair of loudspeaker or amp. You're right about the HOUSE thing. The prices is INSANE

[asianfighter62]

@gotrottin NUTS? it's a hobby for people who like music and video. it's like anything else, the problem with the high end world is OVERPRICING and the CABLE FRAUD. There's not much of a difference between a zip cord and a $3000 cable if you have proper STABLIZATION among wires as proved by the company DAKIOM. Some of these loudspeakers, you're paying for the CABINET maker rather than TECHNOLOGY. But on the defense side, you pay for what you get in some cases. There are differences in sound

[positivenonstop]

Great audiofile stuff. I just put in an order of Vintagae Klipsch Horn Speaker set. How would you rate this amoung speakers? Is it one of the great speakers of all time. I would appreciate the responses. Many people consider them amoung the best ever made. Thank you.

[bahamabrz]

The Klipschorns are great if you have a room large enough. Corner placement can be tough if the room is too small. For that reason, I purchased the Cornwall's instead. I have yet to hear a speaker that I like better -- at any cost. Here is a tip on the best pre-amp that money can buy.

The Morrison ELAD. Search for Don Morrison's web site. You can read reviews of his ELAD on the "audioreview" web site. I have one. It is, by far, the singular best component of my stereo system.

[asianfighter62]

@bahamabrz like any system, a component is really an INDIVIDUAL TASTE. It may sound great to you but, it might be ok to some, and others might desire something else. It's really a PREFERENCE. To my ears, I prefer carver/sunfire and NAD, and chinese/russian tube design for newer stuff. It's like planar/electrostat vs. dynamic loudspeaker design. i happen to like various designs like CLS, line source and anything with ribbon. some people like horns, dome, supertweeters etc in regards to speakers.

[bahamabrz]

The ultimate goal of any pre-amp is to be a completely transparent component within the music system. The ELAD succeeds here where most others fall far short. Its specs and performance are well documented. If you want your pre-amp(s) to add certain "colorations" to your music, then that is certainly your preference. For me, that coloration is a variable that I don't want or need.

[asianfighter62]

@positivenonstop Klipschorn will always be GREAT because the technology is never changing. a NEW klipschorn is the same as a 1950's design, it's the oldest loudspeaker manufacturer. a new one is around $8000 depending on custom design and cabinet finish. The over $15k designs are WAY OVER PRICED and to me is FRAUDULENT, but if people want to buy it, that's their choice, part of capitalism. vintage INFINITY RS like V is superior to these in many audiophiles opinion and restored about $10k or less

[pogmothon100]

@asianfighter62 correct OVERPRICED! i have the B&W 704 and PRIMARE A30.1 amplifier which i bought from a friend installment basis for 1800euro 18 months to pay, and i just have it appraised it will still sell at 1500-speakers 1200-amp and the system is in MINT CONDITION! not a scratch in the system, for me I think it's a good buy.......

[BeppeTV]

Bellissimo video!

5*****

[craneywatch]

The fanciest sound system is here. The fanciest custom monitors are just kid toys in front of them in all aspects of the sound performance.

[slitherysnakes]

oh to have that much money..... stunning gear, AWESOME MUSIC....sounds like it's from "Lord Of The Rings"??

[krellcusio]

Pirates of the Caribbean Soundtrack - One Day

[henrylovesweed]

Wierd video.the music and environment spooks me out.sweet gear though.

[onetimepeace]

great pictures!!!

[jacinto19571]

A música é optima.

Os Equipamentos sonoros são topo de gama.

Gostaria também de disfrutar deste magnifico som ao vivo...

[ToebiAndThor]

It is from the movie "National Treasure" :-)

[pogodrummer]

hey whats the name of the song? thx!

[rjbarbuto]

mcintosh blows for the money, if you want good audio and you got the cash buy focal grand utopia be.

[vdtmh]

Cheapest way to upgrade your sound system: remove your earwax on both ears

[gpgab971]

Why is it that a lot of these Hi FI shows have B&W mated with Krell or Classe even though they are in bed with Rotel? I have had 4 Classe pre amps die on me within 4 years and I have a Krell cd transport that fails to outperform my Japanese teardrop from Consonance. If it's all about "pure sound" and tweaky terminology why don't they use FM or Theta?

[falkenlaser]

B&W is in bed with Classe, too, along with Rotel.

[clicksute]

Ears enjoyed your clip. Angels up high make beautiful too.Thank you.

[brett3xmvpfavre4]

Makes me look at my setup and cry.

[drftnit]

Thats some nice audio, but my favorite is still Wilson Audio Alexandria X-2's thats some sweet and super expensive sound.

[mikefin]

Great video! One day I dream to have B&W speakers and some nice Krell amp. Wow. B&W speakers sound do great.

[PKHKSAR]

What is the name of the back ground music please?

[krellcusio]

Hans Zimmer - One day ........recorder with B&W speakers

[h4x0y]

the gryphon poseideon looks more than impressive, godlike, should be called gryphon zeus! really want to hear these ones, and YG acoustic has to be fantastic too...

i've heard mbl and i wasn't really stunned.....

[h4x0y]

they look "ugly" for a reason: its about sound quality. they have untraditional 360deg cones, without a cabinet.

a set of such high quality speakers shouldn't need a subwoofer. yet another crossover, yet another cone that has to integrate, it'll just sound worse.

[paulusandronicus]

yes the do sound good, still they could be designed to look better and they would expand their market by doing so.

[h4x0y]

indeed they would expand their market by changing the design to a better look, but i think that every aspect of the design is meant for tuning to optimum sound quality, and every change for prettier looks will ruin the sound. Bang&Olufsen has some gorgeous looking speakers but true audiophiles never buy B&O.

[pogodrummer]

what speakers? 360deg cones?

[h4x0y]

yes indeed, it;s not some fake tech that spreads the sound in 360degs, the cones are as spheres and the coil drives them from underneath. the 360deg cones move like a harmonica. the idea is that it spreads the sound naturally in every direction as every real instrument does, and they also color the sound less because they have no cabinet (except for the bass driver)

[foggiapino]

w sonus faber italy :)

[fj6474]

Where is the Magnepans? If you dont have them, you are wasting your time.

[oooowwwwdddd]

wow! nice cock!

[majomann1992]

great music but what's the nameof this song???

[krellcusio]

dynaudio

ygacoustics

klipsch

acusticaapplicata

.........

[krellcusio]

indianaline bowers-wilkins audiostatic legacyaudio fat-man halcro jeffrowland avalonacoustics denon chario kharma audiospace-hifi classéaudio ...................

[krellcusio]

mcintoshlabs accuphase krellonline mbl-germany clearaudio sonusfaber sonusfaber hantarex unisonresearch emmlabs eventusaudio marklevinson gryphon-audio

[fpdl77]

who's music is that? i like it...

[krellcusio]

Hans Zimmer - One Day

[fpdl77]

Thx... I'm gonna copy your idea and use it as a demo song...

[ct5006360]

beautifull thyme

[calvinblinkee]

My Logitech Z-5500 computer speakers is completely crap compared to these ones lol.

[ux256]

ciao i diffusori e le elettroniche di questo video sono quanto di meglio si possa desiderare ma il tuo impianto personale come e' costruito?

io sono un appassionato audiofilo e diciamo che nel mio piccolo non mi posso lamentare ah sono di borgomanero.

[deepsofhell]

Man, if I win the lottery one of the first thinks I would do is to buy a Hi Fi system, Im really in love with them.

[ISLAM4THICKONES]

If you shop carefully you can get very nice sound for $10,000us.

Don't forget the point of diminishing returns sets in where you have to spend huge amounts for small increase in sound quality.

And shop demo models can get good prices.

Also some speaker manufacturers do high end kits to save thousands! just assemble yourself!

Have seen some good specs on amplifier kits also!

There are options to get high end sound with reasonable budget.

Second hand krell amps etc!

[cheytab]

at 3:28 time on your vid, what speakers are they?

[krellcusio]

Legacy Audio

[falkenlaser]

Great video, but where's Paradigm and JL Audio?

[krellcusio]

Avalon acoustics, Avantgarede acoustics, Martin Logan, Bryston audio, Snell acoustic, Eggleston works, Acapella Audio Arts, Threshold, Conrad-Johnson, Chord electronics,

Goldmund, and more High End Audio....

[bighimey]

...walks off to buy a lotto ticket.

[noodleninjaa]

2:42, i love my Macs!

[poolehart]

I've never felt so sad about being so poor...damnit!

[PippoPappo95]

wooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo­oooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo­oooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo­oooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo­ooooooooooooooooooooooooooow

[armolite]

jesus h christ thats beautiful, do you own a hifi store !?

[monkeyman9700]

sounds like music from "the rock"?

[krellcusio]

Music by Hans Zimmer "One day"

[ravenskull1234]

What is the "song" name of this video? Sounds verry nice :-) Ty for the nice vid also!

(got the klipsch rf83 rc64)

[model2270]

great stuff,i love this......;-)