Sadly, Henry has a small role. Most of the focus is on James and his little frowny face. But it is a nice movie, just not historically accurate. But, wow! Henry is beautiful in this!
Tristan and Isolde is a just a story, first told sometime in the early middle ages. There are dozens of story versions close to a thousand years old. It's just a story, a pretty made up tale, not something that actually happened in history.
HA ha. I'm a Medieval Studies MA, so I do know about Tristan and Isolde. BUT the film doesn't just say" Once upon a time," it sets the film in the Dark Ages (before 1066, let's assume) and leaves out the magical elements of the original, so I took it to mean it was trying to be an historical film, yet it lumps all the Irish together in one tribe (not true) AND Isolde reads a John Donne poem (1600s). She's reading a poem that hasn't been written yet! That's what I find historically inaccurate.
@gradgurl2007 there's a lot about this romp being wrong historically. I still enjoyed it for what it was but presenting the Irish as bad guys is hilarious! Every one was a bad guy to those they wanted to supersede back then - just like today!
@lisduggan64 - You may enjoy it. I didn't. And what other Irish bad guys were there besides the King and his henchmen. The other bad guys who side with him are English. Who weren't lumped together and had Scottish accents, like the king.
@gradgurl2007 I used the word enjoy lightly - it was far from good. Late night fodder when the finger is too tired to hit the remote button. What I meant by bad guys was all people in that period, as with today, perceive those "others" who either do not live as they do or indeed attack their homes as bad guys. The "tribes" of Britain were at war with each other as were the people of Ireland. It was all kill or be killed. A slightly more brutal time with or without Rome in the picture.
@lisduggan64 - I know. Did you not notice the comment about my MA in Medieval Studies? I could go on a diatribe about the use of "other" - even being something as simple as nature vs man. Supernatural vs nature. But I'm too tired.
@lisduggan64 - Literature. Mainly focusing on Arthurian and religious texts and stories. It's horribly fun. I didn't focus on Tristan, as his story, ironically, is mostly in French and German. But my coursemate did, and we've had long, lengthy discussions about this film.It's very hard, as a Medievalist, to find a film about the era that is good. :)
@gradgurl2007 I guess that's because drama has to find the essence of the story and truth always gets in the way of story as it is sometimes a little boring. Check out the Irish tales - the one Tristan & Isolde is based on Diarmuid & Grainne and/or maybe Deirdre of the Sorrows/The Sons of Usnach.
@lisduggan64 - Funny, but the truth didn't get in the way of the original stories. That's what irritates me. It's not like there is a lack of material and sources, yet they just ride roughshod over it, because it's easier that way. And the Loathly Lady Tales I've studied are based on the Irish Kingship tales. Only with slight variations.
@gradgurl2007 but is the truth not in the pen of the writer - the one who spins his/her own version of truth to satisfy the times the stories were written down in? The Arthurian stories are a prime example of an English nation trying to separate itself from its French/German origins and latching onto a Welsh/Irish story to find its own mythology. Beowulf the famed English story is actually Danish, albeit written in England by Bede. Truth like beauty is in the eye of the beholder no?
@lisduggan64 - I have no problem with the truth and writers. I absolutely love "A Knight's Tale," yes even with the Queen music and questionable outfits... why? Because it captures the feeling of the era. It's fanciful. Fine, be fanciful, but don't try to pass yourself off as a historical treatment (which is what this film tried to do and which is why I hated the latest "Robin Hood." They couldn't even get the century right!).
@lisduggan64 - Arthurian literature isn't about trying to separate from French/German. You're forgetting the Scottish and English origins of the tales - all of which have their own versions. Which also holds true for the French and German versions. And Bede didn't write "Beowulf!" The author of Beowulf is unknown.
@fluorescentfish it is actually a French version of an older Irish tale taken to Europe by Celtic monks and missionaries along with their teachings on the "new religion". It became popular in the courts of Europe from the late so called Dark Ages (which is a nonsense as there were many places of light after the Romans got their just desserts - Ireland for one). I digress. The original tale it is based on is Diarmuid & Gráinne but some say Deirdre of the Sorrows - making it approx 2000 years old
wow. if anyone else see's him as edward in twilight-i always will, i dont care who's the actor in the movie-, its almsot like the part where he finds bella in the ballet studio. he's so cute! :)
I WANTED HIM TO BE EDWARD. im so mad at the movie right now haha. i dont think it'll be good. robert is just so... awkward. his real mannerisms and personality are so strange...
i mean who cares if Henry is like 26? last time i checked that age is young. plus, edward is 108+ years old. come on. and despite the fact he's frozen at 17 --- they are TONS of people who look the same age they did at 17.
what for an actor is henry acting? is he the good in this movie or is he the bad? and will he die in the movie soon or later? please answer... oh and if he dies.. than why he dies?
what about if he plays jared on the host, which is based on stephenie meyer novel
fabricia36 2 years ago
cant even see his face!
phoebeluvsfrance 3 years ago 2
I do not know this film! I think I will like it!
morriganne 3 years ago
Sadly, Henry has a small role. Most of the focus is on James and his little frowny face. But it is a nice movie, just not historically accurate. But, wow! Henry is beautiful in this!
gradgurl2007 2 years ago 4
HISTORICALLY ACCURATE?!! LOL
Tristan and Isolde is a just a story, first told sometime in the early middle ages. There are dozens of story versions close to a thousand years old. It's just a story, a pretty made up tale, not something that actually happened in history.
fluorescentfish 2 years ago
HA ha. I'm a Medieval Studies MA, so I do know about Tristan and Isolde. BUT the film doesn't just say" Once upon a time," it sets the film in the Dark Ages (before 1066, let's assume) and leaves out the magical elements of the original, so I took it to mean it was trying to be an historical film, yet it lumps all the Irish together in one tribe (not true) AND Isolde reads a John Donne poem (1600s). She's reading a poem that hasn't been written yet! That's what I find historically inaccurate.
gradgurl2007 2 years ago
@gradgurl2007 there's a lot about this romp being wrong historically. I still enjoyed it for what it was but presenting the Irish as bad guys is hilarious! Every one was a bad guy to those they wanted to supersede back then - just like today!
lisduggan64 1 year ago
@lisduggan64 - You may enjoy it. I didn't. And what other Irish bad guys were there besides the King and his henchmen. The other bad guys who side with him are English. Who weren't lumped together and had Scottish accents, like the king.
gradgurl2007 1 year ago
@gradgurl2007 I used the word enjoy lightly - it was far from good. Late night fodder when the finger is too tired to hit the remote button. What I meant by bad guys was all people in that period, as with today, perceive those "others" who either do not live as they do or indeed attack their homes as bad guys. The "tribes" of Britain were at war with each other as were the people of Ireland. It was all kill or be killed. A slightly more brutal time with or without Rome in the picture.
lisduggan64 1 year ago
@lisduggan64 - I know. Did you not notice the comment about my MA in Medieval Studies? I could go on a diatribe about the use of "other" - even being something as simple as nature vs man. Supernatural vs nature. But I'm too tired.
gradgurl2007 1 year ago
@gradgurl2007 fair enough. Which angle did you study the Medieval era?
lisduggan64 1 year ago
@lisduggan64 - Literature. Mainly focusing on Arthurian and religious texts and stories. It's horribly fun. I didn't focus on Tristan, as his story, ironically, is mostly in French and German. But my coursemate did, and we've had long, lengthy discussions about this film.It's very hard, as a Medievalist, to find a film about the era that is good. :)
gradgurl2007 1 year ago
@gradgurl2007 I guess that's because drama has to find the essence of the story and truth always gets in the way of story as it is sometimes a little boring. Check out the Irish tales - the one Tristan & Isolde is based on Diarmuid & Grainne and/or maybe Deirdre of the Sorrows/The Sons of Usnach.
lisduggan64 1 year ago
@lisduggan64 - Funny, but the truth didn't get in the way of the original stories. That's what irritates me. It's not like there is a lack of material and sources, yet they just ride roughshod over it, because it's easier that way. And the Loathly Lady Tales I've studied are based on the Irish Kingship tales. Only with slight variations.
gradgurl2007 1 year ago
@gradgurl2007 but is the truth not in the pen of the writer - the one who spins his/her own version of truth to satisfy the times the stories were written down in? The Arthurian stories are a prime example of an English nation trying to separate itself from its French/German origins and latching onto a Welsh/Irish story to find its own mythology. Beowulf the famed English story is actually Danish, albeit written in England by Bede. Truth like beauty is in the eye of the beholder no?
lisduggan64 1 year ago
@lisduggan64 - I have no problem with the truth and writers. I absolutely love "A Knight's Tale," yes even with the Queen music and questionable outfits... why? Because it captures the feeling of the era. It's fanciful. Fine, be fanciful, but don't try to pass yourself off as a historical treatment (which is what this film tried to do and which is why I hated the latest "Robin Hood." They couldn't even get the century right!).
gradgurl2007 1 year ago
@lisduggan64 - Arthurian literature isn't about trying to separate from French/German. You're forgetting the Scottish and English origins of the tales - all of which have their own versions. Which also holds true for the French and German versions. And Bede didn't write "Beowulf!" The author of Beowulf is unknown.
gradgurl2007 1 year ago
@fluorescentfish it is actually a French version of an older Irish tale taken to Europe by Celtic monks and missionaries along with their teachings on the "new religion". It became popular in the courts of Europe from the late so called Dark Ages (which is a nonsense as there were many places of light after the Romans got their just desserts - Ireland for one). I digress. The original tale it is based on is Diarmuid & Gráinne but some say Deirdre of the Sorrows - making it approx 2000 years old
lisduggan64 1 year ago
made me wish Henry played Tristan instead of Franco.
ladyfire44 2 years ago
Ohhh yes.
gradgurl2007 2 years ago
wow. if anyone else see's him as edward in twilight-i always will, i dont care who's the actor in the movie-, its almsot like the part where he finds bella in the ballet studio. he's so cute! :)
KeiboRocklee 3 years ago 6
I WANTED HIM TO BE EDWARD. im so mad at the movie right now haha. i dont think it'll be good. robert is just so... awkward. his real mannerisms and personality are so strange...
angle021 3 years ago
OH I KNOW! The author even wanted him to be Edward, i mean, come on, he's SOOOO perfect for the role.
messmereyess 3 years ago 3
I know ) :
i mean who cares if Henry is like 26? last time i checked that age is young. plus, edward is 108+ years old. come on. and despite the fact he's frozen at 17 --- they are TONS of people who look the same age they did at 17.
angle021 3 years ago
gosh he is gorgeous
thetypoblog 3 years ago 11
what for an actor is henry acting? is he the good in this movie or is he the bad? and will he die in the movie soon or later? please answer... oh and if he dies.. than why he dies?
meyouyeah 4 years ago
just rent the fucking movie and watch it.
stop08it 3 years ago
He's such a good Actor ! i'm waiting with impatience for Town Creek By Joel shumacher =)
0oLilyo0 4 years ago